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| Kapila Kane |
Posted - 03/17/2017 : 07:59:47 AM
for the suggestion box, If Taropatch does decide to reformat, May I suggest a category for Vocals discussion?
After years of backing up thousands of singers, (some great, some not)...I gradually began to sing more and more, "Why not".
Because I started late, singing is NOT second nature ( while playing fiddle/violin often is)
so I finally found a great "non-classical" vocal coach. Dr. Scott Martin, just down the road in Lakewood, Colorado.
His credentials include working with John Denver, Kenny Loggins, and many others.
While now he's mostly a favorite with Church groups,
while for me. not so much, I'll take the forest, mountains, and music for my spirit renewal.
So I'll just tackle all tunes and singers imaginable, and we just laugh and do the wide range of stuff I still tackle.
My range expanded in the first lesson, and my exploration of how to sing continues...
Scott's great at analyzing and showing how to shape your vocal style and choice of coloring, expanding your range and controlling your voice "mo betta", for different artists, styles and songs with different breathing, phrasing, etc. etc. etc
...and these days, I sometimes actually find "my own voice", and move away from imitating others. But it's a challenge!
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| thumbstruck |
Posted - 04/19/2018 : 03:55:13 AM
It's all about finding the patterns. |
| ricdoug |
Posted - 04/18/2018 : 1:50:24 PM
I find drills of playing chord progressions that create muscle memory make it easier to find a key suitable for my vocal range and play right into it. These tend to be the keys I use most often:
Key_Chord Progression.......................Key_Vamp C - ..C.....C7....F....Fm....G7....C...........C -...D7...G7...C.... F - ..F......F7....Bb..Bbm..C7....F............F -...G7...C7...F.... A - ..A.....A7....D....Dm...E7.....A...........A -...B7....E7...A... G - ..G....G7....C....Cm...D7....G...........G -...A7...D7...G... D - ..D....D7....G....Gm...A7....D............D -...E7...A7...D... |
| Kapila Kane |
Posted - 04/05/2018 : 08:11:11 AM
from the above quote (Book of Ear)l,
"During one of the three voice lessons I took years ago, the teacher said, "Bark like a dog". Huh? Bark in the middle of your speaking voice range, then extend the duration to actually make a note. The barking motion uses all the supporting core muscles and your diaphragm. It was the clearest description that I've ever heard."
to which I reply: But THAT IS my speaking and singing voice!
Oh man, this room can get Ruff! |
| Fran Guidry |
Posted - 03/28/2018 : 06:18:09 AM
Here's a little video on Drop C: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcV-I8Tazlk
Fran |
| thumbstruck |
Posted - 03/28/2018 : 05:39:05 AM
Drop C is also called "Leonard's C" after Uncle Leonard Kwan. Low to high: CGDGBD, used extensively on "the red album". I originally learned "Kilauea" tuning as "C Wahine" or "Keola's C" back in the '70s.
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| mpi_50 |
Posted - 03/27/2018 : 4:43:32 PM
Ok,den, drop c is like Keola’s C? Then Bradda Fran mentioned C, which would be open C? I Liked Earl’s post, I do tend to have a touch of throat singing tendencies. I’ve also been told that I sound like Danny Kaleikini at times, when I’m trying to impersonate Elvis. |
| mpi_50 |
Posted - 03/27/2018 : 2:16:12 PM
Ok,den, drop c is like Keola’s C? Then Bradda Fran mentioned C, which would be open C? I Liked Earl’s post, I do tend to have a touch of throat singing tendencies. I’ve also been told that I sound like Danny Kaleikini at times, when I’m trying to impersonate Elvis. |
| mpi_50 |
Posted - 03/27/2018 : 2:08:30 PM
Spell check is crummy, don’t trust it, I wrote tenor- baritone range, sorry, not even enormous. |
| Earl |
Posted - 03/25/2018 : 09:34:56 AM
Most people are way too critical of themselves and their singing -- and their playing too. If screamers liker Mick Jagger or Steven Tyler can make millions doing their thing, why not go for it? At one songwriter camp that I attended years ago, the unofficial motto became, "Dare to Suck!" which was shorthand for "turn off your inner critic and editor" and just do it.
The important thing is to figure out and stay within your natural range. Forcing yourself outside these limits causes tension and eventually vocal chord damage, not to mention unpleasant sounds. Most of us do not depend on our singing abilities in order to eat regular meals and to live indoors. So have fun with it.
During one of the three voice lessons I took years ago, the teacher said, "Bark like a dog". Huh? Bark in the middle of your speaking voice range, then extend the duration to actually make a note. The barking motion uses all the supporting core muscles and your diaphragm. It was the clearest description that I've ever heard. |
| thumbstruck |
Posted - 03/25/2018 : 07:20:04 AM
Well said, Fran! Especially when playing with a halau, with no chance to retune. Learning chords and the kaholo (vamp) will enable you to play back up for many contexts. |
| Fran Guidry |
Posted - 03/25/2018 : 05:28:19 AM
Drop C, or even playing in C without retuning the bottom string, doubles the range of taropatch+capo.
Fran |
| mpi_50 |
Posted - 03/24/2018 : 2:43:12 PM
Spell check is crummy, don’t trust it, I wrote tenor- baritone range, sorry, not even enormous. |
| mpi_50 |
Posted - 03/24/2018 : 08:19:14 AM
I like the capo idea. I have played in F. I would like to find a tuning that is versatile to cover both the ease of playing and fits my enormous baritone range
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| neeej |
Posted - 03/24/2018 : 05:25:55 AM
As in all tunings, all the chords are there...just find & play the ones that DO suit your voice. Can also retune to F taropatch if you need it lower, thus keeping your fingers where they're use to be <G> |
| Maliko |
Posted - 03/23/2018 : 5:38:57 PM
Get a tank of Helium....
Actually, capo-ing up the guitar can work. Or sing a harmony line if you are in a group....
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