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Adam Troy Posted - 03/15/2010 : 6:52:00 PM
I know its a matter of turning the volume control at the right moment, but is there any video out there that actually shows the finer points? Or perhaps some of you players have some tips.
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markwitz Posted - 12/01/2011 : 4:31:33 PM
I remembered this thread when I saw this video. Jeff Au Hoy does the perfect violin at around 2:20. Wonderful steel guitar solo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGx7lRcRiGs
slipry1 Posted - 04/16/2010 : 4:10:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Volcano

That's what I used to do with a Vibrolux and a Telecaster when I played country music in Nashville in the 70s. It worked great as long as the amp was in good shape. I did used to have to carry extra speakers on the road though.


Yep. One small slip on the volume pedal and the speakers are toast and everyone grabs their ears! The Peavy Session amps solved that problem - got a balanced sound - in the 80's. Ralph was playing a Session 400 when I talked with him. I still use my Vegas 400 (a twin version because I play both pedal steel and keyboards with country bands?) for country gigs.
Volcano Posted - 04/16/2010 : 09:55:41 AM
That's what I used to do with a Vibrolux and a Telecaster when I played country music in Nashville in the 70s. It worked great as long as the amp was in good shape. I did used to have to carry extra speakers on the road though.
slipry1 Posted - 04/16/2010 : 08:23:47 AM
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Originally posted by noeau

Everyone has different techniques. Very interesting. Jerry taught me to turn the volume full blast then set the amp. For wah wah or violin effect he would use the tone control.


Eh, Al! Good advice. Only problem is when I use my Boss Fender Deluxe Reverb Pedal as a direct box, then full volume overdrives it. Instead, I max out the volume on the Pedal. btw, in conversation long ago with Ralph Mooney (played on early Buck Owens records, then was with Waylon Jennings, the inventor of "West Coast Steel" (Sneaky Pete, Tom Brumley, J. D. Maness, Barbara Mandrell, etc.), wrote "Crazy Arms", etc.), I sked him what he played to get his sound. He said he played a Fender Twin Reverb. When I asked him about how he got his sound from that, he said "set all the knobs to 10 and use the volume pedal to control the output". Easier said than done, my friends.
rendesvous1840 Posted - 04/15/2010 : 5:05:49 PM
You sure that's not just dietary problems haunting your dreams? Like maybe Hoof-Hearted?
Unko Paul
hwnmusiclives Posted - 04/15/2010 : 09:00:35 AM
quote:
Originally posted by slipry1

quote:
Originally posted by Volcano

Anyone ever use an E-Bow with compression and some creamy distortion? This really sounds like a violin, expecially with skillful use of a volume pedal


Gawd! An e-bow! I wonder where I stashed mine. I used it on my pedal steel back in the late 70's. I was playing in a band called Cowboy Fever, and I used it in conjuntion with a DynaComp and a flanger - spacey, eh?. Then I joined a band with a fiddler, and I quit using it. Since she was my wife, I listened when she told me that one fiddle was enough. I still used the flanger on my keyboard, and the e-bow went into the closet.

And the award for Best Use Of e-Bow EVER In A Hawaiian Recording goes to... [drum roll, please]

...Jules Ah See for "Kahuli Aku" on the Mahi Beamer album "Hawai'i's Own Mahi Beamer."

It haunts my dreams.

noeau Posted - 04/15/2010 : 08:26:59 AM
Everyone has different techniques. Very interesting. Jerry taught me to turn the volume full blast then set the amp. For wah wah or violin effect he would use the tone control.
Mark Posted - 04/14/2010 : 12:09:53 PM
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I can't remember who showed it to me, but a steel guy showed me a kid's battery powered car (about 2.5 inches long). He had wrapped a string around the powered wheel, and rozened the heck out of it. He would switch on the wheels and hold it against his high string... amazing!


And thereby re-inventing the hurdy gurdy!

That is so weird as to be wonderful.
Volcano Posted - 04/14/2010 : 11:55:39 AM
Now there's an original idea. Very cool.
Konabob Posted - 04/14/2010 : 10:48:51 AM
I can't remember who showed it to me, but a steel guy showed me a kid's battery powered car (about 2.5 inches long). He had wrapped a string around the powered wheel, and rozened the heck out of it. He would switch on the wheels and hold it against his high string... amazing!
slipry1 Posted - 04/14/2010 : 08:45:09 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Volcano

Anyone ever use an E-Bow with compression and some creamy distortion? This really sounds like a violin, expecially with skillful use of a volume pedal


Gawd! An e-bow! I wonder where I stashed mine. I used it on my pedal steel back in the late 70's. I was playing in a band called Cowboy Fever, and I used it in conjuntion with a DynaComp and a flanger - spacey, eh?. Then I joined a band with a fiddler, and I quit using it. Since she was my wife, I listened when she told me that one fiddle was enough. I still used the flanger on my keyboard, and the e-bow went into the closet.
Volcano Posted - 04/12/2010 : 09:57:43 AM
Anyone ever use an E-Bow with compression and some creamy distortion? This really sounds like a violin, expecially with skillful use of a volume pedal
slipry1 Posted - 04/12/2010 : 07:25:43 AM
Oh, yes it is! Also, you shouldn't start at zero volume, just low enough to get the "wa" effect. You should always roughly know where your volume knob is set, anyway, and not go above that.
Adam Troy Posted - 04/11/2010 : 12:19:05 PM
If anyone out there is trying to learn the violin effect, I have realized one of its subtleties. Where the melody under the effect is, say, two or three notes, there is a tendency to bring the volume up with each "bow" as the attack decays. Therefore it is advisable to have a visual mark on the volume knob that the player can quickly reference to cut back down to the original setting. Otherwise one risks accidental blasts of volume after the "violin" section is completed, thus ruining the performance.I am sure this is obvious to the initiated.
rendesvous1840 Posted - 03/31/2010 : 4:43:01 PM
"...the hairy eyeball."
That's almost like "stink-eye," ain't it?
Unko Paul

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