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| Fran Guidry |
Posted - 10/26/2018 : 2:03:31 PM
I'm working up a medley to cover a hula show costume change, 6 minutes of music, the show is paniolo themed. I'm hoping to pull together Auntie Alice's "Paniolo Slack Key" along with some version of "Kaula `Ili" and then "`Ulupalakua."
In the process I'm really listening to Auntie Alice all the way through and tracking the variations. I had the LP but after I transferred the tracks I let the album slip away. Does anyone have a copy of the liner notes? Any indication of the instruments on this track? I'm hearing a second guitar and I think bass. Near the end of the song the second guitar gets out of sync, and I think they get a couple of choruses of lead.
This cut is up on YouTube if you don't have a copy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz05uOlNUaU Definitely worth a listen. I have little hope that I'll be able to play like that when I'm 83.
Fran |
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| thumbstruck |
Posted - 11/13/2018 : 09:15:48 AM
Duke! Using different tunings for each guitar, using a capo, etc, can help to give each guitar a different voice.
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| sirduke58 |
Posted - 11/09/2018 : 11:24:23 PM
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originally posted by Eynowd
So what is the correct way to strum a ukulele to accompany slack key?
Geoff, I would guess the "correct way to strum an ukulele to accompany slack key" would just be something simple & rhythmic that does not take attention from the lead slack key guitarist. An ukulele theoretically in equivalent to the "2nd positions" we use in slack key. Therefore it should never clash with a slacker playing in the first position or 3rd.
In proper slack key etiquette with mutliple guitars, if the lead slack key guitarist is playing in the first position then accompaniment should be played in the 2nd or 3rd positions (octaves)If the lead is in the 2nd position then accompaniment is played in the 1st or 3rd....etc. This way the accompanying player doesn't muddy up the water. The objective is to enable the listener to hear distinctly what the lead is guitarist is playing with as little distraction as possible. |
| Eynowd |
Posted - 11/08/2018 : 1:41:22 PM
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Originally posted by Claudia
the notes on the LP for Paniolo Slack Key say the following: "On this recording she plays two series of different slack key figures on two guitars in counterpoint...with the ukulele strummed in the correct way to accompany slack key"
So what is the correct way to strum a ukulele to accompany slack key? |
| Fran Guidry |
Posted - 11/08/2018 : 07:15:46 AM
Even though I love playing around in G Wahine, I'm figuring out "Paniolo Slack Key" in taropatch, because I don't want to retune between songs in my medley. The notes are all there, but doing it Auntie's way is sure a lot more convenient (grin).
Fran |
| Maliko |
Posted - 11/07/2018 : 11:45:26 AM
I have mostly worked this out on a 5-string fiddle tuned CFCFC. More shaded to "Ka Manu", although Iʻll have to play it a few more [hundred] times before I can sing with it.... |
| Fran Guidry |
Posted - 11/07/2018 : 07:54:44 AM
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Originally posted by Claudia
the notes on the LP for Paniolo Slack Key say the following: "On this recording she plays two series of different slack key figures on two guitars in counterpoint...with the ukulele strummed in the correct way to accompany slack key"
Thanks, Claudia, I wish I'd held on to my copy of the LP.
Fran |
| Claudia |
Posted - 11/06/2018 : 1:06:20 PM
the notes on the LP for Paniolo Slack Key say the following: "On this recording she plays two series of different slack key figures on two guitars in counterpoint...with the ukulele strummed in the correct way to accompany slack key" |
| Earl |
Posted - 11/06/2018 : 04:55:13 AM
Yup. There is a difference between making a video for casual viewers to watch versus making one for guitar players to study. Except for guitar geeks like us, the instructional video can be like watching paint dry - on video. |
| Eynowd |
Posted - 11/05/2018 : 10:51:43 AM
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Originally posted by Fran Guidry
Now that you mention it, Geoff, I have to chuckle too. Seems like once we get in the editing booth we just have to play with our toys.
If you catch me before I archive the footage, I'd be happy to post a "hands only" version if I have a camera catching that, and I usually do. I've done this by request in the past.
It's all good. I understand from a casual viewing/listening point of view that a multi-shot edit, cut with scenery footage or what-have-you, is much more visually interesting than a single camera vid of someone just playing guitar. It makes sense.
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| Fran Guidry |
Posted - 11/05/2018 : 07:47:02 AM
Now that you mention it, Geoff, I have to chuckle too. Seems like once we get in the editing booth we just have to play with our toys.
If you catch me before I archive the footage, I'd be happy to post a "hands only" version if I have a camera catching that, and I usually do. I've done this by request in the past.
Fran |
| Eynowd |
Posted - 11/03/2018 : 1:07:28 PM
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Originally posted by Fran Guidry
If only they could have stayed on an unadorned shot of Auntie and her guitar, instead of zooming and double-screening and such.
I had to chuckle at this, because I've thought much the same thing while trying to study some of your vids, Fran  |
| 12toneman |
Posted - 11/03/2018 : 08:13:00 AM
Does anybody have a copy of the text Fourteen Figures to share? |
| Fran Guidry |
Posted - 11/03/2018 : 07:22:19 AM
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Originally posted by alan_f
Aloha Fran,
I just played at a Paniolo-themed show and was looking for some options to play -- started working on Auntie Alice's Ka Manu/Noho Paipai which is very similar to the track you posted.
Auntie Alice used a collection of melodic riffs as the basis for her song accompaniment and strung them together for "Paniolo Slack Key." In the lost discussion from a few days ago we talked about the "Fourteen Figures" which is a text based on Auntie Alice's slack key instruction, it lays out her collection of riffs.
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Jeff Peterson has a lesson on his slack key workshop website for it, but you have to be a member for that lesson. I didn't quite get it down in time for the show, but after your post reminded me I should work on it more.
Here's a video of Ka Manu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaduZSJoBBo
That was inspiring but frustrating at the same time. If only they could have stayed on an unadorned shot of Auntie and her guitar, instead of zooming and double-screening and such.
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By the way, thank you for the videos you've posted on YouTube -- I've used them as resources while I've been learning. Would love to see how you play 'Ulupalakua -- I ended up pulling it from my slack key set because I wasn't making the E7 transition smoothly enough
I don't know if you play this shape but a number of years ago someone showed me the "magic" E7 in taropatch (or drop C). Make a C shape. Pick up the finger on the second string - now it's an E minor. Make the C but move the index finger from the C on the second string to the G# on the third string - no it's an E major. Then pick up the finger on the first string to change the E down to a D. That's an E7. All these are "top four strings only" chords, but they sound pretty full because they're low on the neck.
Fran |
| sirduke58 |
Posted - 11/02/2018 : 09:08:10 AM
At least I know now that it wasn't just me. Came back to look a couple of days ago & 2 of my comments were missing. Figure I just mistakenly compose my comment in invisible ink..........Nah seriously, I thought I was in the doghouse & got my comments deleted |
| alan_f |
Posted - 11/02/2018 : 09:01:26 AM
Aloha Fran,
I just played at a Paniolo-themed show and was looking for some options to play -- started working on Auntie Alice's Ka Manu/Noho Paipai which is very similar to the track you posted. Jeff Peterson has a lesson on his slack key workshop website for it, but you have to be a member for that lesson. I didn't quite get it down in time for the show, but after your post reminded me I should work on it more.
Here's a video of Ka Manu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaduZSJoBBo
By the way, thank you for the videos you've posted on YouTube -- I've used them as resources while I've been learning. Would love to see how you play 'Ulupalakua -- I ended up pulling it from my slack key set because I wasn't making the E7 transition smoothly enough while singing and I ended up playing it on 'ukulele instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_L6WwecHiw&list=PLtTqBaoYgLQ97lTZBPqqPj6_FjxmgK-rC
If anyone's interested in Jeff's website he has some lessons available free here:
https://jeffpetersonguitar.com/free-lessons/
Mahalo,
Alan |
