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RWD Posted - 08/13/2007 : 4:44:03 PM
Just wanted to know what some of you think.

This is not realy about what I like, but I wanted to preface this question in this way so that it is clear that I admire these musicians and that I am not being critical.

My favorite guitar player is Ozzie Kotani.
My favorite Ozzie CD is "To Honor a Queen".
My favorite piece to play is Steve Sano's arrangement of "Ke Aloha O Ka Haku".

All very modern and complex arrangements of Hawaiian songs (masterpieces to me) but also pretty far away from the styles of Sonny, Kane, and many others.

Are these songs still considered to be Slack Key and if so, why?
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Doug Fitch Posted - 09/19/2009 : 12:30:08 PM
Here's a little bit I did on the "what is slack key" thing. Certainly not a complete answer but for a 60 second clip...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq2EdPsf5Nc

Doug
Retro Posted - 03/10/2009 : 1:46:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by pifarrell

Be gentle with me, I'm not a well man.

Then stay out of the well. Let someone else collect the frogs. And the peaches.
pifarrell Posted - 03/10/2009 : 10:34:16 AM
Well. I wasn't going to post the link as I was feeling somewhat intimidated and because of my fingers but here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evFDqV4pVcw&feature=channel_page

Be gentle with me, I'm not a well man.
mike2jb Posted - 03/10/2009 : 07:39:54 AM
quote:
Originally posted by cpatch

quote:
Originally posted by pifarrell

On the subject of "Maunaloa", a few days ago I was messing about with a new webcam and I videoed myself trying to play it. My son discovered it on the PC and put it on Youtube. Then he changed the password so I couldn't delete it (the scamp). He wouldn't tell me the password unless I agreed not to delete it and when I agreed he said he didn't believe me so it's still on there.


Smart boy! I notice you didn't post the link.





Of course, this made me search out the video immediately.

pifarrell, I won't post the link here, since you didn't do so, but I think it was a very sweet rendition and I'm glad your son "shared" it.

Now that the cat's out of the bag, you might as well post some more, yeah?


cpatch Posted - 03/09/2009 : 05:56:20 AM
quote:
Originally posted by pifarrell

On the subject of "Maunaloa", a few days ago I was messing about with a new webcam and I videoed myself trying to play it. My son discovered it on the PC and put it on Youtube. Then he changed the password so I couldn't delete it (the scamp). He wouldn't tell me the password unless I agreed not to delete it and when I agreed he said he didn't believe me so it's still on there.


Smart boy! I notice you didn't post the link.

pifarrell Posted - 03/09/2009 : 04:58:32 AM
Hi all, since this thread has been resurrected I thought I'd give an update on our Christmas folk night so here goes, I DIDN'T PLAY AT IT!!!
Everything was organised, I had learned a couple of new tunes, "Ku'u Ipo Onaona" and "Slack Key Hula" and I was all set and looking forward to the night.
About ten days before it I was sitting watching TV and my hands started to get itchy, within about an hour they had swelled up to an alarming degree and I couldn't bend my fingers.
the next day they were just the same so I went to my doctor who diagnosed it as "an extreme allergic reaction to something". "No s**t Sherlock" I replied.
Anyway they ran a lot of tests and never found out what caused it, and after a week or so the swelling went down a bit though my fingers were stiff and painful so I wasn't able to play.
It's only been in the last couple of weeks that I've been able to start playing again, my hands are still a bit puffy and it's still difficult to bend my fingers but I'm hoping things will improve. I can only play the simpler of the tunes I know, "Molehu" and "Maunaloa" and I really have to concentrate on what I'm playing or my fingers go off on their own.
On the subject of "Maunaloa", a few days ago I was messing about with a new webcam and I videoed myself trying to play it. My son discovered it on the PC and put it on Youtube. Then he changed the password so I couldn't delete it (the scamp). He wouldn't tell me the password unless I agreed not to delete it and when I agreed he said he didn't believe me so it's still on there.
hapakid Posted - 03/06/2009 : 1:49:07 PM
Slack key is confusing to some people, including me, because a lot of the recorded slack key is instrumental solo guitar. So isolating what make it Hawaiian, outside of the repertoire and II-V-I turnaround, is difficult. If you pull the non-Hawaiian slack key standards (Like "Silver Threads Among the Gold" into the mix, the definition becomes even murkier.
For this reason, instrumental slack key is not my favorite type of Hawaiian music. When I hear the language spoken or sung, it transports me to the place where the composer sat down and wrote the song.

Jesse
Mark Posted - 03/04/2009 : 1:03:32 PM
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On the other hand, George Kahumoku once told me that if your audience dozes off, you're doing something right.


Once, in the middle of teaching one of his classes at George's camp, George dozed off.

Now that what I call teaching!
Russell Letson Posted - 03/04/2009 : 10:23:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sm80808

they would associate "Slack Key" with music that is slow, bland, boring, or at best "relaxing" or "good to nap too"... which is far from the case of most traditional Slack Key music.


On the other hand, George Kahumoku once told me that if your audience dozes off, you're doing something right.

(Apply that to teaching English and I used to be absolutely brilliant in my 8:00 a.m. classes. . . .)
sm80808 Posted - 03/04/2009 : 09:07:36 AM
I have heard some people say that playing a "contemporary" style and calling it "Slack Key" will help to promote awareness of Slack Key as a whole.

I don't really buy into that.

It is more than likely that if you played some "contemporary slack key" to an uninformed listener around around my age, they would associate "Slack Key" with music that is slow, bland, boring, or at best "relaxing" or "good to nap too"... which is far from the case of most traditional Slack Key music.

sm80808 Posted - 03/03/2009 : 1:15:49 PM
I almost forgot about this thread.

pifarrell Posted - 06/08/2008 : 09:23:39 AM
Thanks to all for the kind comments.
I tell you Duke, that was a scary moment when I finished playing "Molehu" then when they started applauding it got scarier
Momi Posted - 06/08/2008 : 08:53:26 AM
Brilliant! Well done! Congratulations, Peter!
Retro Posted - 06/08/2008 : 08:31:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by pifarrell

Last night was just amazing.
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When I finished, for a couple of seconds you could have heard a pin drop, then a huge wave of applause came and I got rather nervous because that meant all the audience were now listening to me.
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We set the hall out like a club with tables and chairs and we run a bar, people go back and forward to to the bar and it's all relaxed and informal, but for the rest of my set no one went back or forward, they sat and watched me (I started sweating just typing this). Anyway, after I finished with "Maunaloa" the place erupted.
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I think I may have created a rod for my own back because I'm going to have to learn more for the next folk night.


Like they say, "the first one's free," because they know that once the drug hits your system, you're a hooked customer. Congratulations on experiencing such a fantastic "first one."
javeiro Posted - 06/08/2008 : 07:44:53 AM
I just want to add my congratulations on your successful slack key debut! I've been enjoying this thread and couldn't wait to see how it went. Wanda said everything just right, especially about "that right feeling inside you" when you play this music that we all love. Now I can't wait for the next folk night! And I second Bruddah Duke's nomination of you for "Slack Key Ambassador of the United Kingdom"........perfect!

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