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| Auntie Maria |
Posted - 02/13/2011 : 11:54:03 AM
Tia Carrere's CD |
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| sm80808 |
Posted - 02/18/2011 : 4:13:10 PM
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Originally posted by thumbstruck
JUS' PRESS.
Too true Kory.
I believe that is how true progress is made.
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| thumbstruck |
Posted - 02/18/2011 : 07:17:59 AM
Human dynamics = 1/3 make things happen, 1/3 watch things happen, 1/3 don't know what happens. If you scrambled up a bund of groups, mixed them together, the same breakdown would obtain. It is impossible to get everyone on the same page because of age, language, experience, proclivities, health, etc. The Grammies are but a punctuation point at the end of a phrase in a long sentence in a big paragraph on a densely packed page in an over sized book which is but one of myriads. JUS' PRESS. |
| Retro |
Posted - 02/18/2011 : 05:26:00 AM
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Originally posted by donkaulia
i agree. its not over.
Let's hope not; it never should be over. It's an ongoing process, and the more qualified people that get off their okole and get involved, the better it will be. (But it's always easier to sit around and monku monku monku, innit?) |
| Retro |
Posted - 02/18/2011 : 05:22:57 AM
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Originally posted by Iakonu
But this thread reminds me of the swirling controversy when Mili Vanilli won a Grammy for Best New Artist in 1990 (over the Indigo Girls at that).
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Originally posted by Admin
You do lose respect for the Academy that awarded Jethro Tull the 1st Grammy Award for Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance Vocal or Instrumental over the expected favorite Metallica. Back in 1989, Entertainment Weekly called it the "biggest upset in Grammy history."
Yeah - because all of us here on TP have always been supportive fans of only the best that the music world has to offer, and we've never tried to turn our friends on to music that ended up being false or weaker than we originally thought. Good thing we all have perfect ears here, yeah, so we never make mistakes that would be brought up again and again 20+ years later, right?
...says I, still an unapologetic Monkees fan...  |
| donkaulia |
Posted - 02/17/2011 : 3:17:07 PM
i agree. its not over. |
| thumbstruck |
Posted - 02/17/2011 : 1:16:13 PM
I'm just glad that I can buy a CD or 3 once in a while and see some good jammers on YouTube (mahalos Aunty Wanda). All humans want to be wanted, needed and appreciated. Hard work, talent and discipline should be recognized. One size does not necessarily fit most, that's why get so many kinds of pizza. |
| markwitz |
Posted - 02/17/2011 : 12:49:09 PM
I thought it was a great article and I want to quote the last part of it directly. There should be some kind of grassroots effort for all Hawaiian Musicians, that qualify to become members to sign up.
Auntie Maria said it very well indeed in a different thread.
"If you really care about island music, and meet the stated qualifications to become a voting member, please join NARAS and HARA and let your voice be heard!"
http://www.grammy365.com/join/membership-types
http://www.nahokuhanohano.org/blog/
Here is the quote from the article.
"Of the 11,000 music industry professionals within NARAS’ voting membership, only a small number are from Hawaii or have any practical experience evaluating Hawaiian music. Many local artists are not NARAS members, which means we have no voice on a national level when it comes to submitting our best music for award consideration.
“How many (NARAS voters) are experts in Hawaiian music,” The Mountain Apple Co. president Leah Bernstein asked in Berger’s story. “We don’t know. … If all the people (in Hawaii) who are qualified to vote in the Hawaiian Grammy category here would join, I think we would have enough a bloc that we could determine what everybody feels is the right thing.”
Another way to put it: You’ve got to get in to fit in. Unless more local artists join NARAS and become voting members, it will be up to mostly mainland haole who determine what the best Hawaiian music album is each year. And without someone — or some organization — to rally everyone and coordinate their efforts, there’s a good chance nothing will really change in the short term.
IF THE Hawaii Academy of Recording Arts were to step up and take the lead, more local artists might jump on the bandwagon and join NARAS. They also have the experience and contacts to spearhead trips to Los Angeles that can bring local artists and voters together in the same room.
Get the State of Hawaii involved in the process, too (we’re talking about tourism dollars here, as many visitors to Hawaii are influenced by the music of our islands), and it’s definitely possible to envision a 2012 Grammy Awards junket that could incorporate meet-and-greet events, concerts and other networking options that would raise awareness among mainland voters.
Instead of complaining, Hawaii’s music industry needs to rally together and come up with a plan to bring the Grammy for Best Hawaiian Music Album back to Hawaii.
Sure, you don’t need to be from Hawaii to win the award (or even Native Hawaiian, for that matter), but that doesn’t mean local people can’t work together to ensure we have a better chance at winning in the years to come."
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| Admin |
Posted - 02/17/2011 : 11:24:31 AM
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Originally posted by Iakonu
I mean no disrespect for any of the nominated artists - they are all truly exceptional and dedicated artists. But this thread reminds me of the swirling controversy when Mili Vanilli won a Grammy for Best New Artist in 1990 (over the Indigo Girls at that). Personally, I lost faith in the Grammy's ever getting it "right" at that point. And then Shakespeare in Love beat Saving Private Ryan for Best Picture at the 1998 Academy Awards - sheesh! Sometimes the horse we want to win the race comes up short.
My thinking was similar 5-6 years ago. You do lose respect for the Academy that awarded Jethro Tull the 1st Grammy Award for Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance Vocal or Instrumental over the expected favorite Metallica. Back in 1989, Entertainment Weekly called it the "biggest upset in Grammy history."
I enjoyed reading the article that Norman posted. I can only hope that musicians do not abandon the Hawaiian music Grammy. I think that it is a positive for Hawaiian music regardless whether the popular nominee wins. |
| Iakonu |
Posted - 02/17/2011 : 11:00:04 AM
I mean no disrespect for any of the nominated artists - they are all truly exceptional and dedicated artists. But this thread reminds me of the swirling controversy when Mili Vanilli won a Grammy for Best New Artist in 1990 (over the Indigo Girls at that). Personally, I lost faith in the Grammy's ever getting it "right" at that point. And then Shakespeare in Love beat Saving Private Ryan for Best Picture at the 1998 Academy Awards - sheesh! Sometimes the horse we want to win the race comes up short. |
| markwitz |
Posted - 02/16/2011 : 9:20:20 PM
Another interesting article.
http://www.honolulupulse.com/music/in-the-mix-another-look-at-the-grammy-controversy |
| Retro |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 8:26:35 PM
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Originally posted by Auntie Maria
... Dennis Kamakahi, Grammy nominee, said. "When is the real music of Hawaii going to be represented?"
So --- what was the music on those past "slack key from Maui" winners supposed to be (including Uncle Dennis' performances)? |
| chunky monkey |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 8:03:40 PM
Nice save |
| Auntie Maria |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 7:12:14 PM
From tonight's TV news:
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=14038377
which includes this quote from Dennis Kamakahi:
"Of course, it was a disappointment. After all that hard work, and then you hear who the winner is," Dennis Kamakahi, Grammy nominee, said. "When is the real music of Hawaii going to be represented?" |
| thumbstruck |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 4:01:17 PM
Waylon Jennings used to sing a song about music being made by lawyers and machines. |
| Retro |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 1:45:10 PM
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Originally posted by wcerto
One thing for the people who can vote on the Grammy awards...the full recordings are available via streaming on the Grammy secure web site. There is no reason someone who votes should not have listened to the music that he/she is voting on.
...unless rights can not be obtained for any nominee, in which case none of the nominees in that particular category are made available - to avoid accusations of unfair advantage. This happened with the Hawaiian Album category in the past, in fact. |
