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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a
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 Posted - 12/21/2006 : 09:15:19 AM
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Yes - at least in the Elbert/Pukui Dictionary.
Ergo... Ka pila Kane is "the fiddle man"
But it also says (if I remember correctly), that kapila can be extended to mean any stringed instrument, and of course in it's present context it's meaning is stretched even further.
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Yeah, Craig, but Keith only used the top 5 strings (true, you could look it up), so the "bass", was totally missing.
Sounds like Keith was originally a Banjo Player! (since the 5-string Banjo is usually tuned GDGBD - same as top 5 strings in Taropatch)
In regards to what IS or IS NOT slack key I am forced to invoke Shakespeare:
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet
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Mahope Kākou...
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Edited by - Lawrence on 12/21/2006 12:57:48 PM |
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Reid
Ha`aha`a
Andorra
1526 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2006 : 09:58:27 AM
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Frome his Wikpedia entry:
Richards' often uses guitars with open tunings which allow for syncopated and ringing I-IV chording that can be heard on "Start Me Up" and "Street Fighting Man." Richards has frequently used a five-string variant of the open G (borrowed from Don Everly of the Everly Brothers)) which uses GDGBD and is unencumbered by a rumbling, lower E string . On some of the Stones' biggest hits, including "Honky Tonk Women," "Brown Sugar," and "Start Me Up", this tuning is prominent. Though he still uses standard tunings, Richards claimed that his adoption of open tunings led to a musical "rebirth".
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Or else, he was stoned at the time and just kept missing the 6th string (I know, smarmy, but the guy was almost always drugged to the gills). Probably more truthfully (and certainly less smarmy), a guitar-playing friend of mine, who saw him several times, said that the 6th string was missing altogether. BTW, he lives here in CT, and the Stones have made impromptu appearances at a New Haven venue, called Toad's, Where Sarah and I used to hang out (when we were young and wild :-) and the music was loads better, IMNSHO.
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And, from the discussion page (because it was brought up here once):
OK, check out the old discussions on the Ry Cooder thing, it was gone over and over and over. In the end nobody could prove that Keith open tuning style owed much to Cooder except Cooder showed him a tuning Keith already knew about. The Nick Kent article was from - I think - a couple of years ago in a special Stones issue.
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Yes, it is Wikipedia, but in most things I know lots about, the entries have been spot on. And then there was the Encyc. Brit. comparison...
...Reid
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hikabe
Lokahi
USA
358 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2006 : 12:23:40 PM
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Please close one eye when you read this as I am not an authority on Hawaiian language.
Kanikapila is derived from "pila ho'o kani" and means "fiddle+of the+sound" Kani means sound and pila means fiddle. "Mea ho'o kani pila" means musician.
The word kanikapila today, Dec. 21, 2007, has now come to mean a gathering of people wearing Hawaiian attire at a potluck event playing mostly Hawaiian music on ukulele, guitar and any instrument they can. Mele or singing is also allowed at these wonderful events where we share our culture and keep the spirit of aloha alive.
Thanks Lawrence and happy holidays to you and your lovely Pua.
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cpatch
Ahonui
USA
2187 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2006 : 12:29:40 PM
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| Thanks guys. So does fiddle in this sense mean the instrument or the verb (as in to mess around with)? |
Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can. |
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Mika ele
Ha`aha`a
USA
1493 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2006 : 3:24:00 PM
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E nana, e ho'olohe. E pa'a ka waha, e hana ka lima. |
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Retro
Ahonui
USA
2368 Posts |
Posted - 12/22/2006 : 12:13:55 PM
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Originally posted by Mika ele
double meaning
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hapakid
Luna Ho`omalu
USA
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Posted - 12/22/2006 : 2:44:03 PM
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In the case of "kani ka pila" the word is probably a noun instead of a verb. Spelling or case rarely changes in Hawaiian langugage when a word goes from verb to noun to adjective. Although the loan word "pila" could be any of the above, it doesn't meet the definition of "kaona", which means "hidden."
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