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Darin
Lokahi

USA
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Posted - 06/23/2009 :  2:59:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit Darin's Homepage
What do you folks recommend for an ultra-portable camcorder with good audio and good still photo capabilities? I saw Wanda's post about the Flip Mino and was wondering if anyone has tested different units?

Darin
http://www.hawaiiguitar.com/

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Pupule

USA
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Posted - 06/23/2009 :  4:25:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message
I'm looking for info too. I was just reading online about the iPhone and Flip Mino HD. I've heard great reviews about the Flip Mino and Ultra HD.

Andy
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sm80808
Lokahi

347 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2009 :  10:12:53 PM  Show Profile
I have the Kodak zi6. In reviews that I have read/seen it compares well to the Mino Flip HD, but has the benefit of expandable memory due to SD slot (as opposed to built-in memory).

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JimC
Lokahi

USA
135 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2009 :  04:44:54 AM  Show Profile
I recently purchased the Flip Ultra HD(2 Hours of recording time). Very happy so far.

My wife uses it when she's teaching hula class And I use it for recording rehearsals. Great in low light situations and the picture is increadable outdoors. The best feature for me is ease of operation. No multilayer menus, one button start, one button stop. Sound is....ok. The software is built into the camera and loads when you connect it to the computer, has some pretty good editing capabilities and you can capture pictures when you are previewing the movie.

Not bad at $179


Jim
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Edited by - JimC on 06/24/2009 04:45:26 AM
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Darin
Lokahi

USA
294 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2009 :  06:14:26 AM  Show Profile  Visit Darin's Homepage
Hi Jim,

Does your Ultra take good still shots?

Darin
http://www.hawaiiguitar.com/
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a

USA
1505 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2009 :  07:37:50 AM  Show Profile  Visit Fran Guidry's Homepage
Darin, I've been looking for upgrades to the Flip Mino HD, and one that is recommended at a higher price point is the Sanyo Xacti line. The HD1000,1010,2000 series have lots of manual control and an audio input, and they all take high quality stills as well as HD video. It has optional lens adapters for wide angle and fisheye formats.

Another recommeded line is the Panasonic Lumix series, the TZ5 and TZ7/SZ3 are the winners there. The TZ7/ZS3 is the latest, with a 10 MP sensor and 12x optical zoom, wide angle lens, zoom works during video, and excellent still photography as well. No audio input, however, and some have mentioned that the camera mic is a bit unsatisfactory. I generally record audio on a Zoom H2 and sync in post, so I'm not too concerned about that.

Check out Vimeo for some channels devoted to these tools:

http://vimeo.com/channels/xacti
http://vimeo.com/channels/sanyohd
http://vimeo.com/channels/18990

Fran

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Edited by - Fran Guidry on 06/24/2009 07:42:03 AM
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cpatch
Ahonui

USA
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Posted - 06/24/2009 :  09:28:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit cpatch's Homepage  Send cpatch an AOL message
I'd definitely recommend going with a still camera that takes video over a video camera that takes still shots...you're going to get better optics for video and still shots and a better sensor for capturing both. The Panasonics that Fran recommends are very good, especially since they offer an extended zoom range with a compact size. If you don't mind going a little larger (between pocket size and DSLR size) then I can highly recommend the Canon SX10 IS. Fran's comment about using an external audio recorder for best results is right on, too.

Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can.

Edited by - cpatch on 06/24/2009 09:41:13 AM
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2009 :  09:35:33 AM  Show Profile
Now that I have the Flip, I woulda shoulda got one with removable memory like an SD card. Otherwise it is swell. I never thought I would need more than an hour of video time, but I never thought far enough about going to Hawai`i and have so many opportunities to film friends playing music or keiki having fun and such.

The size of the Flip is great -- just about size of a cell phone. Push one button to record. Push the same button to turn off. Easy a pie.

Don't be like I did when I got a super 8 movie camera back in the olden days. I took movies of water falls, which I love. Water falls in the cold Ohio winters. Water falls such as Niagara Falls, all that water and water and more water going over the falls. It was neat to see it with the eyes but got very boring watching it. After all how much water can you watch at one time. Ooops, gotta go to the bathroom now.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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Darin
Lokahi

USA
294 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2009 :  11:56:57 AM  Show Profile  Visit Darin's Homepage
Thanks folks. I'm using my Canon Elph at the moment. Video is fine for web, but no optical zoom during video and audio quality are drawbacks.

Darin
http://www.hawaiiguitar.com/
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