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PaokanoMike
Aloha
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 Posted - 05/09/2010 : 7:50:47 PM
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How Can I learn this song? Does anyone know of a tab or you tube for this mele? I learned the first few bars watching the Ray Kane video and I fell in love with it, Thank you for all the help.....
aloha po
(its late here)
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a
USA
1581 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2010 : 07:04:55 AM
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Mike, the second half is pretty much the same as the first half, except for the II7 chord. In G that would be an A7, played by barring at the 2nd fret (if you really want the "7" in the chord, reach down to the fifth fret, first string with your pinky to get the G). The chords are shown in "He Mele Aloha."
Once you have your thumb solid, learning a very basic arrangement of any song should be:
Learn the chords
Learn to hum the melody
Learn to play the melody single note style on the guitar
Play the melody "out of" the chords from step 1 while your solid thumb does the bass
The little details that make all the difference can be tough to tease out of records or even videos, and resources like Ozzie's book and vids and Peter's magnificent book are a tremendous help. But a basic arrangement will just fall right out of the guitar after your thumb is solid and you can hum the melody.
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E ho`okani pila kakou ma Kaleponi
Slack Key on YouTube
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2010 : 07:18:59 AM
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| I agree with Fran. "Ke Aloha" is, imho, one of the simplest and strightforward Hawaiian songs. Just a mention of the title puts the song in my head for hours. |
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Mark
Ha`aha`a
USA
1628 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2010 : 08:05:43 AM
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I agree--it is a lovely tune and simple to learn by ear.
I heartily encourage you to try to do just that. Fran's suggestion will get you started.
That being said, I have tabbed it out (with a second part to help show you how to back up a tune) -- check out my website.
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Julie H
Ha`aha`a
USA
1206 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2010 : 7:35:58 PM
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Is this is the song written by Lei Collins?
Turns out that I'm friendly with Georgiana Clark, CEO of Roaring Camp Railroads in Felton, CA. Georgie happens to be the daughter of Lei Collins. Whenever any group plays that song she gets this whistful look in her eyes.
I am learning it so I can play it for her sometime.
She has at one time told me that when she was a child, her mother would make her dance the hula on the streets of Honolulu and the sailors would throw money into the case on the street. She HATED to dance the hula!
Although she did it for us when we had a fundraiser recently, and it was so wonderful to see her do that.
Lovely song in many ways...
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 05/11/2010 : 06:47:31 AM
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Aunty Lei was a wonderful composer...and more, according to her 1999 obituary:
Violet "Aunty Lei" Collins, 86, of Holualoa, Big Island, curator of Hulihee Palace and Museum and noted singer, dancer and composer of Hawaiian songs, died Nov. 13 in Kona Community Hospital. She was honored in 1995 with the Na Hoku Hanohano Lifetime Achievement Award.
Born at South Keei, Kona, she was regarded as a pioneer in Hawaiian entertainment. She retired from Hilton Hawaiian Village in late 1977, after six years there as Hawaiian hostess, social director and assistant manager, returning to Kona at that time to live on the family coffee plantation.
She began her career in the early 1930s as supervisor of music for the City and County of Honolulu -- in charge of park and playground activities, pageants and music appreciation. Her singing talents were noticed early, and she began a radio career on KGU.
Later, she became program director at the Halekulani Hotel. Employed next by Aloha Airlines, she traveled thousands of miles throughout the Pacific, promoting Hawaii through her music. In South America, Mexico, Canada, Australia and other locales, she took part in Hawaii promotions for leaders of government and business.
This went on from 1955 to 1971 except for two years when she worked for then-Gov. William F. Quinn as director of visitor-satisfaction at Honolulu Airport.
She is survived by sons Louis and John Collins and Steve Mukai; daughters Winona Wong, Fanny Au Hoy, Georgiana Clark and Ernesta Masagatani; sister Eliza Mills; and a host of grandchildren, great-grandchildren, great-great-grandchildren, nieces and nephews.
Honolulu memorial services take place at Kawaiahao Congregational Church at 6:30 p.m. Monday. Call after 6 p.m. Burial will be private. Aloha attire. Leis welcome;omit other flowers. |
Auntie Maria
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 05/29/2010 : 06:20:49 AM
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Originally posted by Fran Guidry
Mike, the second half is pretty much the same as the first half, except for the II7 chord. In G that would be an A7, played by barring at the 2nd fret (if you really want the "7" in the chord, reach down to the fifth fret, first string with your pinky to get the G). The chords are shown in "He Mele Aloha."
Once you have your thumb solid, learning a very basic arrangement of any song should be:
Learn the chords
Learn to hum the melody
Learn to play the melody single note style on the guitar
Play the melody "out of" the chords from step 1 while your solid thumb does the bass
The little details that make all the difference can be tough to tease out of records or even videos, and resources like Ozzie's book and vids and Peter's magnificent book are a tremendous help. But a basic arrangement will just fall right out of the guitar after your thumb is solid and you can hum the melody.
Fran
yeah, each verse has the same tune and is usually repeated twice. it's interesting you should ask about this mele. I am planning on doing my own 'ukulele and vocal version on youtube some time soon. Look out for it, everybody.
One correction: A 2 chord in a major key is always minor. Therefore, no capitals in its notation. The name of the chord you mentioned would be V7/V. In other words, it's built on the fifth scale degree of the fifth scale degree of the key you are in. For example, if you were playing in the key of C, V7/V would be D7 because the fifth scale degree of C is G, and the fifth scale degree of G is D, so your dominant 7 chord would be based on D. When my theory teacher said we were going to start talking about secondary dominants this past semester, I quietly muttered, "Yay Hawaiian music!" (One of the most common vamps used in it is V7/V for two beats, V7 for 2 beats, I for 4 beats, as a lot of you probably know.) |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a
USA
1055 Posts |
Posted - 05/29/2010 : 06:57:38 AM
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The secondary dominant is a major II chord. In the key of C, this would be D major, or D7. This is actually outside the key, because, as Alika pointed out, the ii chord in any key is a minor. The secondary dominant is often referred to as the II major. But it is commonly used as a vamp chord. In this example the 2 measure vamp would usually be (D7 G7) (C). Many many songs in folk , Hawaiian, and actually most styles of music will use the secondary dominant chord as part of the harmony for the melody, not just as a vamp chord.
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"A master banjo player isn't the person who can pick the most notes.It's the person who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello |
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 05/29/2010 : 11:45:08 AM
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Originally posted by rendesvous1840
The secondary dominant is a major II chord. In the key of C, this would be D major, or D7. This is actually outside the key, because, as Alika pointed out, the ii chord in any key is a minor. The secondary dominant is often referred to as the II major. But it is commonly used as a vamp chord. In this example the 2 measure vamp would usually be (D7 G7) (C). Many many songs in folk , Hawaiian, and actually most styles of music will use the secondary dominant chord as part of the harmony for the melody, not just as a vamp chord.
Unko Paul
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He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 05/31/2010 : 8:58:36 PM
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| Oh - been off at Northwest Folklife, so no time to respond. This is the mele that Alan Akaka chose for me to "dig in" to improve my steel playing. It is simple, but sooooo beautiful! |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
2177 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2010 : 1:59:57 PM
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| It's good to keep in mind that those of us in the "folk" tradition have our own terms. Thus when I said "chime", a classical kid told me, abruptly, "harmonic". I told him I knew that, but there were tunes such as "Maui Chimes", AKA "Island Chimes" in Bluegrass circles. When dealing with chords, my Bluegrass training kept it simple. Thus you can have a "high baritone" and a "low tenor" and those involved will know what is meant. Some teachers may roll their eyes at this, but if they did, they wouldn't be invited back to jam again. |
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a
USA
1581 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2010 : 12:18:35 PM
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Originally posted by PaokanoMike
How Can I learn this song? Does anyone know of a tab or you tube for this mele? I learned the first few bars watching the Ray Kane video and I fell in love with it, Thank you for all the help.....
aloha po
(its late here)
Michael+
I'm not sure if this video will be any more helpful than watching Uncle Ray, but here's clip of "Ke Aloha" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMZ5fU8x9RQ
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E ho`okani pila kakou ma Kaleponi
Slack Key on YouTube
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da_joka
Lokahi
361 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2010 : 12:38:24 PM
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Mark Nelson has a tab for this in taropatch on his site and in D-maj tuning in his tab book for Old Time Slack Key Guitar.
http://www.mark-o.com/
IMHO, Mark's slack key tabs were exactly what I was looking for once I got through Ozzie Kotani's book.
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