Is Posting In "Broken English" a turn off?
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Topic author: sirduke58
Subject: Is Posting In "Broken English" a turn off?
Posted on: 05/21/2008 12:31:49 AM
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Does our posting in "Broken English" make you feel like you're being excluded from the
conversation? Does it feel like we are part of a "click" who only correspond amongst a
select group of people? Do you not feel comfortable with your grasp or understanding of
"Pidgin" English & tend to shy away from such conversations because you feel inadequate
or don't want to risk offending anyone?
Well let me formally invite everyone to take part in these "Broken English" posts.Our
intention is never to exclude anyone,it's mostly to inject a little Hawaii into the
conversation.There is no obligation to respond in like manner,because we "Pidgin"
speakers also speak "Textbook English" Hey I'm finally bilingual
We all have a lot of common interests.Seems like a dirty shame to be separated by either implied,inferred or invisible walls. E KOMO MAI!!! I came here because of Ki ho'alu,I
don't care what your IQ level,Ethnic make-up,musical ability,economic status or whatever
is.If you're good people,I'd like to get acquainted & share
Malama pono
Braddah Duke
Replies:
Reply author: Admin
Replied on: 05/21/2008 03:50:10 AM
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Just be yourself and post often. 
My 2 cents. It's all about the music anyway. Doesn't matter how you say it.
Reply author: `Ilio Nui
Replied on: 05/21/2008 04:44:54 AM
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Bruddah Duke.
I agree totally with Andy. Some will feel excluded by the post, some cliquish, and some uncomfortable. No mattahs! as long as the intent is pono. Through the years of being on TaroPatch, it's nice to see more Hawaiians posting. This was pretty much haole land for a long time. Not to the exclusion of hawaiians, but just the way it was. I find it refreshing to see the hawaiian connections being made here; the strong sense of `ohana. By posting you have opened up your `ohana to us. I, for one, greatly appreciate it.
Mahalo for you sensitivity.
Dave
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 05/21/2008 07:02:15 AM
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I don't speak Pidgin - but I understand most of it from context. I enjoy reading posts in Pidgin, because it gives "voice" to the posting - and I hear voices in my head all the time anyway!
No bodda me.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/21/2008 08:39:34 AM
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Hah? I almost wen pas dis one bai, but for political reasons I wen take onenada look. You guys lolo fo try change lidat. Da wey you talk iz da wey you tink bradda. N da wey tou tink iz da wey you rite. N I tink dat everybody still stay listening brah, Jez ho`omanawanui brah.
Furdamor, if we waz to lift da top of your hed en chai look eensai your brain, would have all deez lil kanaks runnin aroun in dea saying "do diz do dat, what you lookin at? I tink da odda guys tink I no can rite, I no like dem tink I'm icing em out. What you mean I gotta talk mo betta? Diz changes eryting! You know I neva wen speech terapy three years for noting . I know you know I know dat you know I stay trying to do wats right, but hard yeah. Eh, try put da top down. Mahalos"
No change now, too late I tink. Hard fo stop da bolder from rolling down da Pali, wen all you geet iz rubbah slippa. So Dukey, whachoo gonna do?
Reply author: Reid
Replied on: 05/21/2008 09:29:15 AM
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Wonderful! Pidgin is great - it is expressive, has many metaphors and a syntax much like Hawaiian. Besides, it is usually filled with great humor and vitality.
Sarah and I have many books in Pidgin, some very seriously literary. I won't name all the authors and titles, because we have choke books (see, even that single word is a clever construction and reuse of a word).
I refrain from speaking it because my accent is lousy, but once, at a festival on little Moku Ola (how could they ever have renamed that important place Coconut Island?), I said a few joking paragraphs, with the correct accent, to Sarah, and was overheard by a nearby family. They caught my joke and joked back, in Pidgin. That was nice.
BTW, like any language, Pidgin is changing over time (and has before) and is different from place to place and between ethnic groups. Those dialects are interesting, too. Right now, Honolulu Pidgin, with a Japanese flavor, seems to be driving the change everywhere. Like the very early use of "guyz" instead of "dem", similar to the Hawaiian "ma".
Keep it up.
...Reid
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/21/2008 10:19:14 AM
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And Ed,
You one nodda one. You kenna go Hah? afta I already wen Hah? My Hah get more mana, came first. You gotta go ida "What? " or "So?" or "So what?" or "What bada u?" Or da triple emphatic "So what? Bada U? Hah?"
I can just see Reid pulling out da books and going what the hell? Then again mebbe not. Like slack key all you gotta do is just listen, and listen to da rhythm to get it right.
I think Duke's post is great! It makes things clear. Da main thing iz dat erybody just jump right in n start talkin to each other, dat's what makes diz place happen.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/21/2008 12:06:00 PM
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Ah Ed,
Me too. As I digress into my bastard tongue. I no sked'em, I kona chancem before we change directions again. I konna do a couple good long runon sentences, like stream of conscious.
Cause I work dea and teach, the problem with UH guyz and odda guyz at udda schools, iz they think they're smarta den evrybody else like me, some are, some arnt, but daz why get da big bucks. But what I wen learn I neva wen learn at UH, like Lion King, I wen learn em from da school of life, it's an important part of the circle of life, but neva had one degree for what I know.
N I know that get so many guys who wanna know what I know because I already did the research for almost forty years and its all good jez neva published in academia, although a couple of students wen try scoopem, but it would be one big scoop for UH ma and one major loss for me, once it's out it's fair game. But as they say, das da alas bra.
If I were to speak pidgin like this alla time, I wouldn't have a job. I'm gonna look at my postings tomorrow and say, stupid, what was I thinking? What you think?
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 05/21/2008 12:13:05 PM
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quote:For the visually inclined --- lai dis?
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
Furdamor, if we waz to lift da top of your hed en chai look eensai your brain, would have all deez lil kanaks runnin aroun in dea saying "do diz do dat, what you lookin at? I tink da odda guys tink I no can rite, I no like dem tink I'm icing em out. What you mean I gotta talk mo betta? Diz changes eryting! You know I neva wen speech terapy three years for noting . I know you know I know dat you know I stay trying to do wats right, but hard yeah. Eh, try put da top down. Mahalos"
http://blueballfixed.ytmnd.com/
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/21/2008 12:22:46 PM
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Yeah Gregg. Jez Li dat. You one child of the 60's or what?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/21/2008 1:13:25 PM
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Yeah, das rite. I feel beta already. You checked out Gregg's link to the blue ball machine? It's trippy. I could watch it for a long time. Anyway I got to get back to editing, it's boring but necessary.
Aloha Peter
Reply author: Reid
Replied on: 05/21/2008 1:59:11 PM
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"I can just see Reid pulling out da books and going what the hell?"
"mebbe not."
Not! Wot I owe you money,O wot? Wan' beef?
...Reid
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 05/21/2008 2:24:38 PM
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quote:I'm not sure...I don't remember very clearly...which means it's likely.
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
You one child of the 60's or what?
(Now...where's the "smiley" that represents an acid trip?)
Reply author: `Ilio Nui
Replied on: 05/21/2008 3:36:05 PM
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If you remember the 60's, you weren't there.
David Crosby
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 05/21/2008 4:07:02 PM
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Every ethnic community has gone through it. I was in high school when I found out that the "diskbanken" was the "kitchen counter", among other Scandihoovianisms pecurliar to my family.
Shoots, Duke, no worry da "broken English", my ohana wen' speak one oddah kine alla time an' still got by. Jus' press. Also, learn fo' eat poi.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 05/21/2008 7:35:10 PM
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Bradda duke,it's intelligent posts such as this that brings to mind,that under normal circumstances would'nt have been brought up.Whether if from not feeling to belong.or worrying about offending,makes us realize nevah mind,that our common ground being hawaiian music and culture brings us together.And that bringing attention to this,will without a doubt open da doors for all.Good topic my friend.Aloha braddah jay.
Reply author: hapuna
Replied on: 05/21/2008 7:40:32 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Retroquote:I'm not sure...I don't remember very clearly...which means it's likely.
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
You one child of the 60's or what?
(Now...where's the "smiley" that represents an acid trip?)
Its just a quess but I think he's a poser here!!!! He doesn't look old enough to be a child of the 60s
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 05/21/2008 8:17:40 PM
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quote:You got me; I'm actually a child in my 50's.
Originally posted by hapuna
He doesn't look old enough to be a child of the 60s
Reply author: da_joka
Replied on: 05/22/2008 03:22:56 AM
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eh, i no tink pidgin stay broke. broken kine english stay how people like fo talk wen dey no can talk english, not wen dey talk one odda language like pidgin. I like reading an writing in pidgin cuz i can be mo myself. Ya, some people goin be lef out, but jalike goin Chinatown and I no can talk cantonese. I feel lef out too ova dea. watevas no?
just tink dis way - if can, can. if no can, no can.
Reply author: hapuna
Replied on: 05/22/2008 5:21:17 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Retroquote:You got me; I'm actually a child in my 50's.
Originally posted by hapuna
He doesn't look old enough to be a child of the 60s
Damn dude you're old. Does Momi know????
Reply author: slackkey
Replied on: 05/23/2008 12:24:49 AM
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Eh...wassup Reid! How you stay my "bruddah? How's dakine Sarah? Anyways, it's good fo jus hang-loose ovah heeyah and watch evra-buddy talking slack-lingo ha! ha! Wut can I say! daz da way us guys talk story in da land of "Pigin To da Max"! Keep us locals, local! Na o-ne dat but heh, some good fun
A Hui Hou!
slackkey Bill
Maui, Hawaii
Reply author: Reid
Replied on: 05/23/2008 03:33:32 AM
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Hey Bill,
Nice to "read" you (since I can't see you from 5000 miles away). We're OK, and hope you are too.
You no mo' dakine hospital, yeah?
Laterz,
Reid
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 05/23/2008 06:21:19 AM
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quote:Dollah - chree - eighty?
Originally posted by guavasunrise
how much change you like back from you 2 cents?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/23/2008 06:47:50 AM
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Kden, finally wen change my BBDs. Git on da boxers, day stay loose so I can brede n tink. N now I'm watching the sun rise above Kaneohe Bay, no mo wind -- get zero tide, no mo vog, can see da mountains. Da surf stay 6 feet in town and glassy. I tink lifes konna be good today. I will finish up the final timing edits on Opihi Moemoe nden it will be perfek fo read. No mo complaints when I gitem right. N I tink dat mebbe layda I kona teach my dauda sa moa fo how play slack key n how to cook. Whachoo folks stay doin?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/23/2008 08:00:05 AM
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Eh, wen I used to liv Colorado, I missed home a lot and surfin and fishing, I was raised in Ka`a`awa, so what I would do is go fly fishing eryday 'cause had wada, yeah da streams. But you know how hard fo catch flies? Neva catch noting, n I one Pordagee lidat should been easy yeah, what you figgah?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/23/2008 08:41:32 AM
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Yeah but no, I neva steel anybodies flycatcha slippa, cause does guys was handicap yeah. Dey only get one left foot yeah and den dey get da handicap stick on da back a da slippa fo help put on, hard enouf fo dem fo walk wid one foot. I wanda about what da odda handicap guys wid only one right foot? No mo flycatcha slippa fo dem. Sheesh n I taught was konna be one good day.
Aloha ino
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 05/23/2008 08:45:36 AM
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quote:Apparently, I am considering further edumacational opportunities...
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
Whachoo folks stay doin?
quote:Akshully - I am stressing out over the upcoming Folklife Festival, where I gotta perform in three different shows, all on Sunday. It'll all go fine, I am certain - but Folklife has many special meanings for me, so it's always a stress-generator.
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Eh Momi, time fo send dis makule buggah back night school.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/23/2008 10:32:55 AM
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Nah!
Das deep bradda. When dey when pas out da brain cells dey gave you extra yeah?
Me I stay mo makule den you, I would tink more like Kaze Kozo could do dat wid da hashi, and nowdays Abarembo Shogun could do dat. Mebbe Jackie Chan. Dos guys mus hav pleny flies in da icebox. What you figgah?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/23/2008 11:42:29 AM
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Momi,
Sunrise pau already, I workin on what I gon cook for dinna down da beach by Lanikai boatramp on da hibachi. I gota go Times and get steak and poi, and den Masa and Joyces for poke. Oh gota go get charcoal at City Mill, mo cheap today. Da juices been flowing since breakfas.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/23/2008 11:45:58 AM
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Dude,
Yeah I rememba alla dat. I used to cut catechism class n go my frens house and watch on Sunday mornings lidat.
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrisequote:Eh, you shuwa you shuwa you mo makule den me? You might hafto retink dat because I remembah Kaze Kozo flying in da air too, and brah, dass going waaay back to black and white telebision wit Lucky Luck, Napua Stevens, Dave Ford, Biddy Boxing, Romper Room, Chubby Roland and his Funny Face #1 competitions, Sgt. Sacto and Capt. Honolulu and Kapiolani Drive-In Theater, Sky Slide, Rainbow Rollerland, and if you no remembah all dat den I mo makule den you.
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
Me I stay mo makule den you, I would tink more like Kaze Kozo could do dat wid da hashi, and nowdays Abarembo Shogun could do dat. Mebbe Jackie Chan. Dos guys mus hav pleny flies in da icebox. What you figgah?
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 05/23/2008 4:44:34 PM
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Eh Ma'deiros! You get good pordagee Ing'lish. Good fun fo spaak you and Guave Ed go-fo-broke wid da parlez pidgin. BUT! No fo'get go da pordagee bakery in Kailua fo ono stuffs, aka "Malasada". Eh, but, instead going Lanikai, go walk-feet toward MC Base and talkstory wit Oprah or dat udda surfa wahine (hell, I so makule I get memory loss, Momi)!
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/23/2008 5:00:31 PM
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What I figgah is dis,
Duke when open up da floor. So we all go fo broke. If da english stay broken why turn'em off. We go for it. Lez chai set one record wid az many guys talkin story in dis thread as can. No worry if you pidgin no fly jez try an afta a while you gon gedem. (do I hea pretentious? no scadem, go for it) But you kenna wimp out you know, you gotta chancem. I gotta hele, oa my wifes gon yell at me.
Alohas
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 05/23/2008 8:12:06 PM
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E wa da fa? Jes try fo follow one ball only dat buggah go all ovah da place. No try anlize dis kine jes leesten and bumby you get em. No sked just like music get the meter and the tone and run wit um li'dat. You know kiho'alu is jes like pidgin. It varies from da norm but sound good and can communicate ideas wit less words and movement. like potry jest make pitchas wit words.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 05/23/2008 8:26:16 PM
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Kaze Kozo? wow laulau I used to go Toyo and Kokusai foa watch samurai flicks. Obake neko kine movies too. Hibari Misora now there was a female fighter if dere evah was wun. Folklife gigs. I going be with Gregg for most of the day except when i sit on a panel with Mark Nelson. This festival is big time good fun I nevah tink I would be involved in dis kine stuff. E peter I hungry for beach bbq too. It is too chilly up heah most time for cook outsai.
As foa TV who remembahs Chubby Rolands and Sheriff Ken. I used to go down da station and wave hi to my mom wen I stay on top da TV.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 05/23/2008 8:30:26 PM
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quote:"Catch phrase" of the day, but I better not use it on stage.
Originally posted by noeau
E wa da fa?
quote:E wa da fa? You're the one who asked about meeting up with people to play Hawaiian music, right after you moved here - what did you think would happen when we met somebody who plays good like you, that we wouldn't drag you to every performance opportunity we'd get?
Originally posted by noeau
This festival is big time good fun I nevah tink I would be involved in dis kine stuff.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 05/23/2008 8:33:00 PM
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E jus tell eh. Now mo pepos goin ax me foa play li dat. But you know wat? I luv it man. Jus buy me wun biggah hat kay?
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 05/24/2008 02:43:39 AM
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Dem pellah stay too makule fo me- I harly can membah black-n-white TV. Sides, my family nevah like get-"stay rot da brain", dey said. Only get fo watch satuhday cartoon wid my fren one howa. Nevah yet til dis yeah get one TV- an da buggahs stay right, rot da brain. I nevah like watch.
Chris
Reply author: RWD
Replied on: 05/24/2008 02:53:16 AM
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Sorry...no pidgin. I been one mainland haole way too long!
You guys are making me remember good things from my childhood.
I remember Capatain Honolulu for sure! I used to watch all the time.
Aku-head Pupule too.
I remember Lord Blears and surfed with his kids for a while!
I was in a club called Surf Club Hawaii,based in Waikiki--pretty sure he helped run it. Why Waikiki? Hey, for sure because it was summer time but why there? I dont know. I was from the North shore side (Haleiwa) so it must have been my mother that signed me up :).
My picture got in a book called "Surf and Sea" and was in the public library. Me, age 11, hanging five at Queens (Waikiki) competing with a big #21 on my vest.
Ho boy!
Reply author: Reid
Replied on: 05/24/2008 03:07:02 AM
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Ho, da funee! I wen spahk da Designated Broad an come all ovah laugh too much an get skid mahks on top da bibbidees, but.
...Reid
Reply author: javeiro
Replied on: 05/24/2008 05:16:15 AM
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Wow, laulau! You guys brains work mo bettah den mines one, especially wit da rasling guys. I no can rememba haff doz names but I shua rememba watching dem on TV! Captain Honolulu wuz one good one but you rememba Checkers and Pogo? And J. Ahu Head Pupule was one llloooonnnngggg time ago man..........you mus be ole like me!
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 05/24/2008 07:55:55 AM
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Hooooo bra. Some memreez. I remembah I waz da remote. Owa house had one hugemungus Zenith TV, but da screen waz kina small an roun. Any wayz, I was da remote. Way back, wen oni had chree channels, owa house Moloka`i had six channels, bra! We had chree from Honolulu and chree from Maui. I waz da remote, my faddah says, "Boy, change da channo." And I gotta jump up and turn da knob. An was on Channo 4, but my faddah said, "Not 2...9!" And I jump up and turn da knob da udda way. An if 9...da Honolulu one no was too cleeah, he said, "Try da Maui nine (which means chree)." If 2 no was cleah he said, "Try da Maui 2 (which was 7)." Hoooo, brah. Dis remote was runnin out of batrees.
I neval like be one remote so I wen go outsai and ride my goose-neck. Hoo brah, you get some bus up wen you crash going down one cinda hill on one up-sai-down frame, pipe neck goose neck bike wit da small tiyah in da front. Mo worse wen you lovin' oldah brudda hemo da coasta brake. Wen you try fo slow um down goin down da cinda hill and you step da pedal backwards...Eiiiiya! No stop...da pedal oni keep going backwards.
An wen you reach home all bus up an den Ma go put iodine all on top da cinda-rash...AFTAH she scrub um dith da washclot an Ivory soap! Owee!
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 05/25/2008 10:04:12 AM
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EL-EYE-PEE-PEE-WHY...
EL-EYE-PEE-PEE-WHY...
YOU BUY, I BUY, EVERYBODY BUY AT LIPPY'S....
DA POOAH MANS FRIEN
Kini Popo early in da morning on channo 9; Lucky's Lu`au...Tele-V Digest (someting lidat), Filipino Fiesta....eeeeeye sus!
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 05/25/2008 11:14:04 AM
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I wen use da same kine pomade as him wen special kine stuff fo go to...Ylang-Ylang. An fo daily uze, i get da pikake kine. Oni ting wen you play tackle footbol recess time, da stuff melt and mix wit da swet.
Reply author: Bd1
Replied on: 05/25/2008 2:04:08 PM
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Ho you guys member Aku play Da Kine Cranes ? Had music for da operators and den they play em in Waikiki..............
Reply author: slackkey
Replied on: 05/26/2008 02:00:51 AM
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Auwe....how da times wen change eh...Az wuz da good-ol-days! Lucky Luck! Fillipino Fiesta! Kinipopo! Captain Honolulu! Wresling (my fave, da "Missing Link") Eh recamembah hees dakine signacha "OHHHHHYEAHHHH"? Ha! ha! Now-a-days no mo! Well, small kine o-ne li'dat But hey! Az why get o-heeyah! Maybe no-mo now, but get all da bruddahs dat recamembah den! Mahalos fo da memories!
slackkey Bill
Reply author: RWD
Replied on: 05/26/2008 12:15:09 PM
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I used Pikake too when I was a kid in Haleiwa. Man talk about grease. No can do anymore!
Reply author: Bd1
Replied on: 05/26/2008 1:36:52 PM
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Hey Duke,did you know Al Michaels worked in the Termite house back in the late 60's.....I worked the phones for the islanders in a locker room selling tickets for the Scholarship promotion..
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/26/2008 5:52:49 PM
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Eh, Ed,
What you wen do yestaday?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/26/2008 8:24:13 PM
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Eh brah,
Dis is jlike Twilite Zone. I kinda feel like you nevah like me for really ax you what you did yestaday aftah you when try ax us fo ax you what you did yestaday, yeah? I don’t know if you salty or what, but neyamine let me try get my teeth in, das okay.
You know yestaday in my dreams, I wen Eribodies too, but I nevah see you dea?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/26/2008 9:07:25 PM
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Nice,
I taught you wen moe already. Yeah, u`i what she said Natalie. Da song not to bad eeda "Blossom Nani Ho'i E". I not gon ask questions anymoa, I tink I might unnastan. I get chemo brain, just finished up terapy laz mont. two monts early, was gettin too sick. My docta tole me chemo kills cells. I'm okay, but I know I lost plany brain cells. Usually I'm pretty sharp but I tink I losing my edge, but fo now I stay on da right side of da grass.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 05/26/2008 9:34:31 PM
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E Peter I had to tink about dat one. Da right side of the grass. Thas like you eeda pushing up daisies or you pulling um out o da ground yeah?
Dat peetcha of da line in front of da stadium remind of da seasons I use to go every game. All you had to do was sign up and yell "line ups, get your line ups" aftah 1st quatah you can see da game manuahi. And you get money in da pocket for saimin and soda. Dose da days when Iolani St. Louis, Punahou and Kamehameha used to rule in da ILH. I was 11 years old but I could walk home and da cops no bust you foa curfew if you say you coming from da game. I used to walk home from da stadium to Maunakea St. weah I lived. Da bus was still HRT dose daze.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/26/2008 9:48:43 PM
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Eh Al,
Yeah da stadium daze n small kid time waz pretty good. But you know wat nowdaze is even mo betta. My laz name wen change, nobody call me Petaboy anymo. Remembah Kehau and Terilee folks. Kehau wen get married again and den wen move Austrailia -- I tink she stay tellin jokes fo one livin. Terilee I tink works Title Guarantee.
Reply author: RWD
Replied on: 05/27/2008 02:02:29 AM
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quote:
Anybody remembah da mosquito trucks dat used to go up and down da valleys spraying thick white smoke out da back that contained DDT poison which I neva know at da time because I was still small keed and used to chase dat truck from behind
I remember but from a different place!
When I was a small kid I did the same thing. I would chase the truck (jeep) all the way down Pikai St. (near old army beach in Haleiwa). I thought it was fun running in and out of the fog. Now I wonder what the hell I was thinking. But, I garautee I was not thinking about too much when I was about ten and for sure I did not know about DDT. I am 58 now so I maybe I got away with it...never know for sure though.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/27/2008 11:12:34 AM
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I know it's good fun fo remaniss, but mo betta stay current eh? Mo guyz ken talk?
Rite now we get da buttah problem--mahjinalize. Da udda guyz like talk too, but kennot cause dey nevah was raise Hawai`i yeah. So givem chance.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 05/27/2008 11:55:19 AM
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Hear wun las wun. I remembah dem wahine. Kehau telling jokes eh. I can see dat. OK when your buk going PAU? I like get wun copy fo me.
Reply author: Basil Henriques
Replied on: 05/27/2008 12:03:14 PM
Message:
It IS hard to follow for a fellow like me, methinks the syntax is taxing, and whilst you're waxing lyrical, I feel ostracized and castigated.
Then again I COULD go elsewhere, where it's apparent I'm required to: The door DOES appear firmly closed to Non Pidgin speakers.
Are you too close to the woods to see the trees ?
Your posts ARE somewhat exclusive.
All the appearance of a private club with very colloquial membership requirements.
Of course my views are just the views of an outsider, I do think that there are MANY outsiders who (Presumably) would like to participate.
In all humility,
Basil Henriques
BTW Some famous person once jokingly said " If can, can. If no can, no can."
I agree.
Reply author: RWD
Replied on: 05/27/2008 12:10:56 PM
Message:
This is good authentic kine Hawaiian talk story.
I think It's good to have Hawaiian time for a while.
When the other members like talk, they will jump in or one new talk story will start. This kine talk story gives good insight to Hawaiian lifestyle and philosophy than most. Sure, some of it goes overhead but overall I bet plenty members can read it, enjoy it, and get something new from it. Just look at the big numbers.
And hey, how many times have I ever been wrong? Neva mind, dont count hahaha 
Reply author: markwitz
Replied on: 05/27/2008 12:26:14 PM
Message:
quote:
BTW Some famous person once jokingly said " If can, can. If no can, no can."
I agree.
I recently saw Sistah Robi at a concert and she said,
"If can, can...if no can.....CAN!!"
I like that mo bettah.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 05/27/2008 12:56:07 PM
Message:
quote:No boddah me - get plenny room hea. Geev 'um.
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
Da udda guyz like talk too, but kennot cause dey nevah was raise Hawai`i yeah. So givem chance.
Reply author: Reid
Replied on: 05/27/2008 1:00:20 PM
Message:
Uh, Basil, please... As a person who has often been confused by *very* local dialects in England - I once slid over from a saloon bar to the "local" and bought Best Bitter all night for an old manky bloke who spoke deep Wiltshirese, just to try to understand the lingo (he fell into the Tef with his bicycle because of it - locally called "Moonraking") - and I have a lovely wife who spent two years in a school north of London doing "Maths", etc. and being told "Aren't you a silly gel?", because she didn't have the proper Excent.
I think pidgin is much more understandable than most speech encountered in Old Blighty. Not that I don't love it - especially the usual absence of most parts of speech: "Roight. Well done, Luv, Brilliant."
Oh yeah, explain the rules of that ball game you have over there, where guys in white outfits sometimes hit a ball badly and sometimes don't, yet run back and forth between sticks regardless of how far they hit the ball and the ball is supposed to bounce on the ground when pitched with a seriously bad overhand motion, etc. etc. etc. Sarah and I watched a bunch of that last Aug., after the floods in the Cotswolds, and nobody could explain it to us. "Jess the weay it is cobber. I'n it?" (Most sentences are ended with a question to make you feel bad.) Ass Roight, i'n it?
...Reid
...Reid
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 05/27/2008 1:41:24 PM
Message:
quote:For additional reference, see:
Originally posted by Reid
I think pidgin is much more understandable than most speech encountered in Old Blighty. Not that I don't love it - especially the usual absence of most parts of speech: "Roight. Well done, Luv, Brilliant."
http://www.comics.com/comics/getfuzzy/archive/getfuzzy-20080502.html
http://www.comics.com/comics/getfuzzy/archive/getfuzzy-20080505.html
http://www.comics.com/comics/getfuzzy/archive/getfuzzy-20080506.html
Reply author: Bd1
Replied on: 05/27/2008 2:16:05 PM
Message:
Aloha, The language thing is pretty universal. Being from New York originally I have spent a lifetime (68 yrs.) defending my use of proper english? When my daughter went to St. Patricks and then Ewa School She had the added burden of Red Hair and Fair Skin,N.Y. accent and she talked Pidgen pretty good. I worked construction Laborer for a few years and spoke Haole-Pilipino-whatever and got along.When she was back on the mainland and in School her teacher asked where her shoes were? O stay by door no can wear insai eh!
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 05/27/2008 2:40:12 PM
Message:
When I wen' learn ki ho'alu, I wen' learn plenny "P" stuffs:
Press
Poke
Poi
Potagee Sausage
Potagee Bean Soup
an' Pidgin (oddawise, could not unnastand da kumu).
Linguists refer to it as "accent levelling".
Reply author: hapuna
Replied on: 05/27/2008 8:06:40 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Bd1
When she was back on the mainland and in School her teacher asked where her shoes were? O stay by door no can wear insai eh!
Eh I tink you lef out da bes part! What did the teacher reply??? Was it "HAAAAH?"
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 05/27/2008 11:01:44 PM
Message:
Eh I tink you lef out da bes part! What did the teacher reply??? Was it "HAAAAH?"
[/quote]
Most likely just stood there for 5-seconds,blinking about 10-times,then finally...."Come again" 
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/28/2008 12:49:54 AM
Message:
Nah Bradda Jay
Coulda been one small Haaaah. Haaaah is almost universal. I heardem Big Island, I heardem Kaua`i, I heardem Ni`ihau. Get good chance wen makem across da ocean you know.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 05/28/2008 01:15:37 AM
Message:
"if you were to say out loud what is being said in pidgin, it might make more sense."
This is certain- there is no standard spelling, any kine goes! After 30 years of living in Hawai'i, I have no trouble hearing it. But when I read it I really have to focus- kind of say it out loud in my head, if you know what I mean. Then no problem. Trying to write it, though? THAT is a problem!
Chris
Reply author: Basil Henriques
Replied on: 05/28/2008 02:07:27 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by sirduke58
Does our posting in "Broken English" make you feel like you're being excluded from the
conversation? Does it feel like we are part of a "click" who only correspond amongst a
select group of people? Do you not feel comfortable with your grasp or understanding of
"Pidgin" English & tend to shy away from such conversations because you feel inadequate
or don't want to risk offending anyone?
Well let me formally invite everyone to take part in these "Broken English" posts.Our
intention is never to exclude anyone,it's mostly to inject a little Hawaii into the
conversation.There is no obligation to respond in like manner,because we "Pidgin"
speakers also speak "Textbook English" Hey I'm finally bilingual
We all have a lot of common interests.Seems like a dirty shame to be separated by either implied,inferred or invisible walls. E KOMO MAI!!! I came here because of Ki ho'alu,I
don't care what your IQ level,Ethnic make-up,musical ability,economic status or whatever
is.If you're good people,I'd like to get acquainted & share
Malama pono
In a word YES I do feel excluded
Friends, I am right, you ARE friends ?
The post by me WAS serious, It would bode well to "Take on Board" the comments of an outsider now feeling even more outside.
The shortage of direct replies to my post would seem to exclude my comments from any form of validity.
Hawaiian music has been performed by my family since 1937 and we've promoted the signature sound of the Islands ever since, I REALLY want to belong..not be dismissed or even worse, ignored.
I see no replies that would guide me to an understanding, some recommended listening or reading material would help, but WHY hasn't someone suggested that ?
The lack of direct responses to my post seems to go against what the original post was all about, i.e. "Come on in"
quote:
Does it feel like we are part of a "click" who only correspond amongst a
select group of people?
Yes unfortunately, but why ?
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 05/28/2008 02:57:48 AM
Message:
Basil,
Sorry it is difficult to understand- people are just letting loose, having fun, and mostly trying to provide an opportunity to look inside "local" Hawaiian culture and language. Funny thing is, this is just phonetically spelled English the way people in Hawai'i hear it through the filter of Hawaiian, Chinese, Japanese, Portugese, and various Phillipino languages they were raised with- or their parents or grandparents were raised with. If you speak the words out loud the way they are spelled instead of trying to read them through the filter of your expected English spelling, you might be able to follow.
Of course, there are some words and phrases that don't come from English or idioms that are impossible to know if you are not part of the culture. I remeber when I was fourteen and first on the island, someone asked me "You like beef?" and thinking I was being invited to lunch,(but not wanting to participate as he was seeming quite agressive), I said politely "No thank you, I'm a vegetarian" (which wasn't true but seemed like an easy out). Turns out it was the perfect response- he just laughed at me for not understanding that he was asking me if I wanted to fight and walked away.
So much humor in Hawai'i is based in pidgin- it is worth the effort of trying to understand, it is an English dialect after all and not that difficult beyond the wild spelling inconsistancies. I would submit that many Hawaiian musicians have almost as much difficulty understanding ultra formal written English as you have understanding written pidgin- yet no one is trying to be exclusionary here. You are actually being invited to be included in the local culture- it just takes a little effort, that's all.
And to the other posters- perhaps it would be good to provide a "translation"? This could be even more humorous than the original posts!
Chris
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 05/28/2008 06:21:40 AM
Message:
I never lived in the islands. I learned ki ho'alu by jamming with friends. I found that as I was accepted, their Pidgin got thicker. Here on the mainland, folks keep Pidgin going as a connection to their roots, like cherished recipes, tunes an' li'dat.
Baz, don't feel excluded. Remember that written English is mostly based on the pronunciation of southwest England (where the first printing presses were in Britain) and that subtitles are needed for us on the other side of the pond for many documentaries in the various British accents. As musicians, our ears are usually quick at picking up new sounds. Easy, brah.
Reply author: Basil Henriques
Replied on: 05/28/2008 10:31:53 AM
Message:
Sir Duke, I really appreciate your answer, but your perception of me is way off base. I belong to the group of people that live by "Pass it On" I will try and join in but you say I'm confrontational and hostile, yet you yourself call me untruthful by saying "If... as you claim etc.. is that not directly doubting my word.. not much give and take there.
Reply author: T-Dan
Replied on: 05/28/2008 10:33:36 AM
Message:
Bruddah Basil:
I have a book to suggest that I really love: "Chalookyueensai" by Bruddah Joe....When I moved to Hawai'i as a 13-year old California haole boy, I saw Bruddah Joe reciting his pidgin poetry on the local PBS (Public Broadcasting Station)...Had to be 1970-71....It helped make what I was hearing among my new classmates and neighbors come alive. I found a reprint of the book recently and it comes with a CD of the author reading the book aloud. Pidgin is really more of an "outloud" language...but it's fun fo' chrai write'em too, eh? Don't feel left out...It's all good...O'ahu's da "gathering place," yeah? So gather up an' have fun...
the author's website:
http://www.bradajo.com/
This is much more than "how fo' speak da kine..." It is truly poetic and just charming to listen to the stories come to life...
an article about Bradah Joe:
http://starbulletin.com/2001/12/20/features/story1.html
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/28/2008 10:35:29 AM
Message:
E Basil,
You’re worrying too much. I think you’re taking this thread way to seriously. The make up of TP is a good cross section of guys who play Hawaiian music – different ages different ethnicities but all with a common purpose. For you it’s just gonna take a little time to get comfortable. As Ed says “just loosen da BBDs and everything goin be bettah”, You get BBD’s yeah? If no mo even mo betta?
I’ve seen your you tube posts and you are a solid steel player (instead of the camera mic, use an external mic in front of the group next time to get a balanced sound between the musicians). “Lovely Hula Hands” is real neat, you can almost dance to it.
And your group looks like they all mountain Hawaiians, in fact the names are all Portuguese. Dey was one legend about da guys who wen miss da boat, was your grampa guys yeah? So the way I look at it you guys must be da lost tribe and was da ones who nevah made da boat to Hawaii back in 1879.
So there is no reason to feel hilahila (bashful or shy). We not goin eat you, get Safeway ova hea. Not like Captain Cooks time. Don worry, we take care a you. It’s just like wen I wen fly hanglida, in order to fly you gotta jump off da cliff. Marriage da same way. Get guys fo take care of you.
quote:
Originally posted by Basil Henriquesquote:
Originally posted by sirduke58
Does our posting in "Broken English" make you feel like you're being excluded from the
conversation? Does it feel like we are part of a "click" who only correspond amongst a
select group of people? Do you not feel comfortable with your grasp or understanding of
"Pidgin" English & tend to shy away from such conversations because you feel inadequate
or don't want to risk offending anyone?
Well let me formally invite everyone to take part in these "Broken English" posts.Our
intention is never to exclude anyone,it's mostly to inject a little Hawaii into the
conversation.There is no obligation to respond in like manner,because we "Pidgin"
speakers also speak "Textbook English" Hey I'm finally bilingual
We all have a lot of common interests.Seems like a dirty shame to be separated by either implied,inferred or invisible walls. E KOMO MAI!!! I came here because of Ki ho'alu,I
don't care what your IQ level,Ethnic make-up,musical ability,economic status or whatever
is.If you're good people,I'd like to get acquainted & share
Malama pono
In a word YES I do feel excluded
Friends, I am right, you ARE friends ?
The post by me WAS serious, It would bode well to "Take on Board" the comments of an outsider now feeling even more outside.
The shortage of direct replies to my post would seem to exclude my comments from any form of validity.
Hawaiian music has been performed by my family since 1937 and we've promoted the signature sound of the Islands ever since, I REALLY want to belong..not be dismissed or even worse, ignored.
I see no replies that would guide me to an understanding, some recommended listening or reading material would help, but WHY hasn't someone suggested that ?
The lack of direct responses to my post seems to go against what the original post was all about, i.e. "Come on in"quote:
Does it feel like we are part of a "click" who only correspond amongst a
select group of people?
Yes unfortunately, but why ?
Reply author: Basil Henriques
Replied on: 05/28/2008 10:41:59 AM
Message:
T-Dan and Peter, thank you thank you for making me feel a little more welcome, I really appreciate the input and I would dearly love to belong, there is a problem though, it's the "Transatlantic Syndrome" some phrases and general constructions don't make it both ways.. Like The use of "IF: and "as you claim." That would mean to me that I'm being disbelieved, claim isn't the same as stating factually, so do YOU doubt my word about our family's musical history ?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/28/2008 10:54:13 AM
Message:
Transatlantic syndrome? No worry Basil we neva catchem yet, we get hard enough time get across da Pacific ocean. Anda ol piccha stay good (the old picture is good), but you still stay ugly (you're still ugly). But jes keep playing Hawaiian music like you playem.
Reply author: Basil Henriques
Replied on: 05/28/2008 10:58:32 AM
Message:
Thanks T-Dan, I've just purchased "Chalookyueensai" by Bruddah Joe. and look forward to learning, I did learn something already.. the postage charged is quite substantial !!
Reply author: Basil Henriques
Replied on: 05/28/2008 11:06:08 AM
Message:
Peter, that picture is from 1937, my wife's father and the group.. Pat and I are not quite as ancient though we probably look it..
How about my name and my wife's name in Hawaiian, Pakile and Pakelekia Henriques, nice uniformity to it..
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 05/28/2008 11:38:40 AM
Message:
Basil, it's clear from all your postings that your knowledge of Hawaiian music is extensive and detailed. You and I share a similarity, in that neither of us was raised in Hawai`i, but came to the music from outside, following our ears and hearts.
Here are some thoughts on what I have learned, regarding exclusivity and inclusion; living in the UK, I suspect you've had some similar experiences, yet plenty that are utterly different and beyond my knowledge...
The "local" community here in Seattle, especially the Hawaiian music community, has been very open and accepting of malihini with a real curiosity. They start out inclusive and offering of much aloha - which only disappears with great effort. In other words, you really gotta screw up big, several times, for people to stop trying to include you here. Otherwise, they can be pretty tolerant during a long, never-ending learning process.
Asking too much can backfire. People have been willing to show me a lot, musically, culturally, linguistically - but tend to get uncomfortable when I push with too much "why is that?" questioning. Better to learn by observation, and if I don't get it, I'm given more opportunity for additional observation, with the goal of my figuring it out for myself in terms that resonate with my own life and experience. No one is going to hand me the "answer key," because they know their version may not work for me.
Another important point for me is to never, never, NEVER claim that I know enough to earn entry to a particular level, or to be on an equal plane with someone who grew up immersed in the culture I am studying. It's not an issue of equality; it's simply a matter of being who you are and not being who you aren't. Despite my connection into the Island community in Seattle or in Hawai`i, I will NEVER pretend that I am "local," no matter how much I think I know - and several of the "locals" here have been given absolute right to take me back down a notch, if I play at being more than I really am.
I might understand a little Pidgin, usually in context, but that comes from several years of hearing it spoken; reading comprehension is a little tougher, but with time, it comes along, too. Where you are, you probably don't have the same opportunities to hear it spoken. But I don't want Pidgin speakers (or writers) to feel a need to pause and make sure I'm not being left back; if I want to understand, the burden is on me. I might ask about a particular word or phrase from time to time, but I don't want to be spoon-fed a translation - I don't learn as well by that method. The same applies to music, hula, `olelo Hawai`i, etc.
Hope something I've said resonates or helps you in some way; if not, feel free to ignore it all.
Reply author: Basil Henriques
Replied on: 05/28/2008 11:45:36 AM
Message:
I'm really delighted about the book, Pat and I will review it in our magazine and maybe some of the folks who subscribe will be motivated to buy it..Can only be good for the business..
This is me a while ago :-
Some other interesting pictures..
This is distinctly British AND Hawaiian..
Reply author: Basil Henriques
Replied on: 05/28/2008 11:57:18 AM
Message:
Thanks for the "In Depth" reply Gregg..I am taking on board all you say and would NEVER be as discourteous as to ignore your good advice and observations..
Sometimes my sardonic wit and vitriolic pen are misunderstood..
But my deepest heartfelt intentions are never anything but sincere.
I am in the process of giving back what music has given me for the past 50+ years of pro working, to all and sundry who just ask, I give.
Methinks it's time to "Lie Low" until I've absorbed the content of the book .. And then !!
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/28/2008 12:01:55 PM
Message:
Kden bradda Basil,
you feel mo comfortable. I know you feel mo poor, but da Joe Hadley's poetry gonna make you feel betta. I see from da picchas you know Kanoe Cazimero and Gregg Sardina folks, so brodda you get mo connections den you know about. Take care.
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 05/28/2008 12:49:34 PM
Message:
Hehe...I seem to recall the person centrally located in the photograph above.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 05/28/2008 2:14:09 PM
Message:
We run some of Bradajo's poetry on an irregular basis in the Northwest Hawai`i Times newspaper - mighty stuff, and a joy to read.
quote:I believe you, Basil.
Originally posted by Basil Henriques
But my deepest heartfelt intentions are never anything but sincere.
I am in the process of giving back what music has given me for the past 50+ years of pro working, to all and sundry who just ask, I give.
Reply author: Basil Henriques
Replied on: 05/28/2008 2:41:32 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by PoiDog
Hehe...I seem to recall the person centrally located in the photograph above.
Likewise, and I also remember the "Moon of Manakoora" sung beautifully by a pretty lady called "Tootsie". It was 4 years ago but I recall we started out in G, found it too low, modulated to A and decided that after the solo Bb was the place we SHOULD have been.
Some very provocative dancing that night as I recall..
It lives in our memory as one, or more likely, THE highlight of our trip to Hawaii.
I also recall Aunty Genoa's Lady guitarist complimenting Pat and complaining about having to follow her !! We still can't quite believe how long they asked to play for, we thought a couple of tunes was all..I suppose it was the Guest dancer/singer that made us seem good..
Reply author: Basil Henriques
Replied on: 05/28/2008 2:46:12 PM
Message:
I Recall puzzling a few locals when I sang the verse to Lovely Hula Hands..
quote:
Have you seen the real Hawaiian Hula
Seen the beauty of that ancient dance ?
Lovely hands that tell a thrilling story,
Of life and love and gay romance :-
This is it Click Here (Not me but Mr. Crosby)
Reply author: Basil Henriques
Replied on: 05/28/2008 2:57:14 PM
Message:
Hey Sirduke, we love you all and wish we were not only able to talk/write pidgin at your level but to be there with you all, that is our dearest heartfelt wish.
No need for the sorry bit, It's fo sur the transatlantic syndrome, no huhu..
Many Maholos for your time taken to put me wise to the ways of the ohana here. As a musician I'm a kamaaina but as a socialite here just a mad haole malihini.
The Moe family were close to us whilst they were in Europe, but since then our only contact with the islands is by the "Net"..
Reply author: Reid
Replied on: 05/28/2008 3:28:22 PM
Message:
Gregg,
Did you notice that you rephrased the "ethical" anthropologist’s creed in your post (there have been many less than ethical anthropologists). Accept my admiration, if you will.
One of the important composite rules in Hawai`i, or anywhere else you care to meet real people (you can substitute place names), or learn about the real local culture, is get off Kalakaua Ave., get off that claustrophobic sand spit called Waikiki, get out of hotels, live local, eat local, do your research ahead of time, and never say much except to ask thoughtful questions. Never, ever tell people much about yourself, except the truth, whatever they want to know. Never advertise, just display what you can do without pride. No flash.Don't put yourself forward, be modest. Be interested, because you really are. OTW, stay home. Or be a tourist, in the worst sense.
...Reid
Reply author: Basil Henriques
Replied on: 05/28/2008 3:46:41 PM
Message:
Hi Reid, I get your point, just one question regarding
quote:
and never say much except to ask thoughtful questions. Never, ever tell people much about yourself, except the truth, whatever they want to know. Never advertise, just display what you can do without pride. No flash.Don't put yourself forward, be modest. Be interested, because you really are.
Who is going to answer if we're all asking?, what's the point in striving to improve if we can't take pride in our achievements? The "no flash, Don't put yourself forward" etc. statement is probably correct in the spirit of Aloha, but restrictive to those in the entertainment business, as is "never advertise" surely those pointers you make aren't the general diktat of this forum ?
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 05/28/2008 3:51:56 PM
Message:
If you no like feel lef out jus jump in. That's what i remember being told.
But I must add that Pidgin is not an English dialect. It is a creole if one needs to be academic. Think back and place yourself in the Hawai'i of the early to late 1800's when Hawaiian was the main language. English speakers, Japanese speakers, Chinese speakers and Filipino speakers all had to learn how to communicate in their native language to Hawaiian speakers.
So, the first pidgin was a sort of Hawaiian pidgin where people spoke ungrammatical Hawaiian. When English was forced on the populace as the lingua franca the Hawaiian grammatical format was transferred. Only difference being the vocabulary moved from Hawaiian main roots to English main roots. Therefore pidgin is in and of itself an independant language that could be said to stand on its own two feet.
What cannot be conveyed as has been pointed out since there are no standard spellings established as a whole are the myriad tones that accompany many statements in pidgin. These tones derive from Hawaiian pronunciation along with various tonalities that come from Asian sources as well as the English accents that the missionaries spoke since they came from around the Boston area. There was a period where our monarchs spoke with the accents of Great Britain as well since the first English speakers came off of Capt. Cooks ship. Therefore it is definitely an over simplification to categorize pidgin as a dialect of English.
So no ack if you no know wat you talkeeng about haah!
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 05/28/2008 4:05:55 PM
Message:
Braddah Basil,
Jump in brah, jump in. An if you no can undahstan, jus axe somebody.
BTW...She (Toots) was my Letterman's Ball date in 10th Grade! I will see her next week and tell her I met you. Well, kinda sorta met you.
I will trick her into doing Unforgettable with me...
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 05/28/2008 4:19:41 PM
Message:
Unforgettable thats what you are etc. used to listen Dinah Washington's version at A1 Bakery by A'ala paka when I was like 12 yrs old and on da loose. The falsetto singing drag queens used to buy me breakfast and act like they was my aunties. Boy those was da daze.
Dis tread been good kine fun it seems to go on fo evah yeah? No can help if somboddy say somting dat spok da memories and da lolo staht running around. Lived a lot of life and the old thoughts are there to share wit you folks.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/28/2008 4:30:14 PM
Message:
Owee Al.
Too many deep tots, you wen ova da limit fo me. Ida dat or you gotto put space wea da new paragraph staht. My eyes old I kenna see good laidat eh. But I know what you sed was profound no?
quote:
Originally posted by noeau
If you no like feel lef out jus jump in. That's what i remember being told. But I must add that Pidgin is not an English dialect. It is a creole if one needs to be academic. Think back and place yourself in the Hawai'i of the early to late 1800's when Hawaiian was the main language. English speakers, Japanese speakers, Chinese speakers and Filipino speakers all had to learn how to communicate in their native language to Hawaiian speakers. So, the first pidgin was a sort of Hawaiian pidgin where people spoke ungrammatical Hawaiian. When English was forced on the populace as the lingua franca the Hawaiian grammatical format was transferred. Only difference being the vocabulary moved from Hawaiian main roots to English main roots. Therefore pidgin is in and of itself an independant language that could be said to stand on its own two feet. What cannot be conveyed as has been pointed out since there are no standard spellings established as a whole are the myriad tones that accompany many statements in pidgin. These tones derive from Hawaiian pronunciation along with various tonalities that come from Asian sources as well as the English accents that the missionaries spoke since they came from around the Boston area. There was a period where our monarchs spoke with the accents of Great Britain as well since the first English speakers came off of Capt. Cooks ship. Therefore it is definitely an over simplification to categorize pidgin as a dialect of English. So no ack if you no know wat you talkeeng about haah!
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 05/28/2008 4:33:41 PM
Message:
Kden i go bak an edit da buggah. Jus pointing out wot sum pepo might not know about.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/28/2008 4:58:27 PM
Message:
Good enuf, I ken seeum now.
Da books yeah mebbe next month. Mo like July. I gotta finish up da final edits. I'm only gonna record some of the pieces, My hands not good yet cause a da neuropathy n not enuf space on da CD.
Da uddahs you can buy online from Auntie Maria folks -- the classics like da Red album Leonard Kwan; Sonny's Waimea Cowboy; get da 49th State compilations History of Slack Key Guitar on Hanaola Records (Mike Cord Guys); Peter Moon on Hula Records da Maori Brown Eyes one; n den Dennis Pavao on All Hawaii Stand Together. Get uddahs but I kenna tink anymo right now.
I gotta do one mail list so I know how much bucks I gotta lay out, dis is expensive.
Petaboy
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Originally posted by noeau
Kden i go bak an edit da buggah. Jus pointing out wot sum pepo might not know about.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 05/28/2008 5:03:23 PM
Message:
Right on I buy one awreddy. Jes let us know when can.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 05/28/2008 5:04:50 PM
Message:
Howzit basil,you see wen you just talk story and go with da flow,like it or not you in.Only ting,do you like where you at.Me, glad you here,take care my friend,and post em.Braddah ed who da beag mouth Rememba I wen already embarass myself,but if you like,can.Not goin hurt my manliness Aloha braddah jay
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 05/28/2008 6:46:19 PM
Message:
Eh, Baz, no get fooled by "dialect". Hawaiian Pidgin is a separate language just like Lollans (Scots) is. English speakers think that both are dialects because they can partly understand. For years teachers in the US have been exasperated by "bad English" in the South and Lower Midwest that were merely holdovers of Scots. In the Upper Midwest and out here in the upper left hand corner of the map (Gregg- cue the seagull)some still hear the grating "Wanna come with?" (instead of "Would you like to come?"), a holdover of the Scandinavian laguages of early settlers. Yew yust haff to get used tew it. K'den.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 05/28/2008 11:58:08 PM
Message:
Anden you know I no can rat out my source bumbai shame I get lickens from one tutu wahine. 
By da way brah, I wen get you and braddah Duke real good eh? She wen go plant wet smackeroos ontop each of you guyses bolohead giri giris from me yeah?
Braddah ed,you da one.Dat was one humid night,and my head was shiny.Now I know why I saw auntie wipe one fast one,and not from hair in da mouth.Kay you ready?When I was like 17 years old,used to live behind the shops on kalakaua,directly across beef and grog.Had two apartments facing each adda.This neighba across would get my attention by shooting one baby green guava at my door.He da one wen show me how fo make one slingshot from da guava branch.So one morning he knock on my doa,like he always did,with dat small baby guava.This time he ask if I like eat chicken,I said shoots.It's like 7 o-clock in da morning.He says let's go for a walk,and to bring my slingshot.So we start heading toward da zoo.Along da way he tells me to grab one rock,I say why? He said we goin shoot da chicken with dat rock,and if you miss,no pick up one adda rock,because dat chicken was meant to live.Dat's why make sure your rock is good,so you get good chance.So we in da zoo early in da morning,so early get only couple groundskeepas.As we walking around looking fo dat perfect chicken.A hen to be exact,he hands me a plastic bag,eh wat dis fo? Dat's fo put da chicken inside,oh o.k. So he see one he like,WOP man dat chicken nevah even move,buggah is gonnas,he walk ovah grab da chicken and put em inside da bag.O.K my turn,I take aim....no no, wat how come? Cause look all da chicks,o.k you no like make orphans.There dat one,so I take aim...THUMP I miss da head,so now dis chicken is spinning around on da ground flapping like hell causing one big commotion.I nevah know dis,but wen one chicken is outa line,da adda chickens attack dat chicken.If you can imagine all dem chickens running to our spot.Braddah I wen panic,so I stay kicking chickens outa da way,so I can grab dat damn chicken.I grab em,chrow em inside da bag.We start to walk out,but dis damn bag stay flapping around while i'm holding it.Now I really stay panicking cause dis bag look like get one life of its own,so wat I do? slam da bag against da ground,over and over until da bag stop moving.I'm all sweaty,my heart stay pumping,so we make it out da zoo.Alright,so we reach home,my friend willard,who's actually from palau takes his chicken out da bag,da baggah all relax,head swaying side to side,just how should be.Now out comes my chicken,pooting dat buggah wen suffa.He Had one grimace on his face with his legs straight out stiff as a board,just like he came back from da taxidermist.My friend stay shaking his head,wat? No can eat,dat buggah to tough.Now you know why I dive,mo betta.To you animal lovers please forgive me,I was young and dumb.Next time hit da head not da neck. There you go braddah ed,hope you enjoy.Aloha
Reply author: Basil Henriques
Replied on: 05/29/2008 12:06:20 AM
Message:
I feel an empathy towards Pidgin speakers, the reason: Pidgin is NOT true Hawaiian language but as someone said, its bastard son or whatever, well, The music I play is as far removed from traditional Hawaiian slack key and chant as pidgin is from the actual Hawaiian language.
My place here isn't being looked for for myself, but more to be a voice of the far flung community of Hawaiian musical groups in Europe that still perform the Holywood era Hapa Haole song and dance.
Whilst Hawaii has reverted to its musical roots which is commendable, its forgotten that for 75 years at least the tourist industry was one of its main sources of income. This industry was generated by the signature sound of Hawaiian music as broadcast and recorded by Webley Edwards' Hawaii Calls and the Hawaiian musical troupes that toured the world like the Moe family.
Whether its recognized by the current Hawaiian musicians or not, the rest of the world still associates the electric Hawaiian Guitar as the signature sound of the Islands. Just look at how many groups there are in Holland or the UK, just look at how many "ALAU HULA ' there are worldwide especially Japan (Hundreds of schools with thousands of dancers and musicians) where I believe the Hula to English lyric Hapa Haole songs are still the most popular.
What was blatantly obvious to Pat and myself when we visited Hawaii was that the music and dance that brought the tourists and bolstered the economy, was no longer respected or performed. The tourist who traveled to Hawaii to see "Keep your Eyes on the Hands" Lovely Hula Hands" and the like performed, could only (And barely just) get those performances on DVD or CD.
Pat and I (as a labour of love) publish a quarterly magazine for lovers of Hawaiiana and the music of the era to which I refer, the magazine holds four conventions each year in the UK attended by like minded people. The gathering is usually made up of 15 to 30 Hawaiian Guitarists and their families, none of them Hawaiian but all of them in love with the Golden era music AND dance..
Please forgive this drawn out post, but I felt it was necessary for others to see what the "PERCEIVED" music of Hawaii is outside the USA..
In the late 50's, Mahi Beamer actually made the charts here in the UK and was simply played off the air on the BBC with his version of Ke Kali Nei Au..
I will at some later date start a post regarding the history of the European Groups, Pat is quite a historian and her article in the magazine are respected by collectors worldwide as are the contributions of our staff musicologists John Marsden (recipient of the Jerry Byrd Steel Guitar hall of Fame award) and Professor Anthony Lis. Teacher of Music history at the University of South Dakota. See :- Article on Steel Guitar
So, who am I ?, well I am one of the last over here of a long line of players following in the footsteps of Sol, Andy, Dick, Ernest, Billy Hew Len, Barney Isaacs, Jules Ah See, Andy Stewart (You get the gist).
Having signed a ten year personal contract with EMI records, I recorded most of my albums at Abbey Road Studios. Here are the sleeve notes from a double album compilation that EMI released in 1999 and is still available via iTunes, Amazon and suchlike music download sites.
quote:
In the same way that US masters of exotic music as Martin Denny and Les Baxter transported their listeners to mysterious tropical islands and ancient civilizations, Birmingham born Basil Henriques and his Waikiki Islanders managed to re-create a similar mirage on these two albums from the EMI Studio 2 series. Henriques destination was Hawaii, the unmistakable sound of which he expertly summoned up from the strings of his steel guitar, an instrument that was perfectly adapted to capture the mood and romance of the South Seas - with its golden beaches, palm trees and dramatic burning sunsets - and transport it into thousands of suburban homes across the UK. Basil Henriques was, for many mood music fans, the main supplier of instant sunshine. His vast repertoire included favourite songs from films such as Dr. Zivago and The Sound of Music, old favourites like "Strangers in The Night" and "Moon River" , together with popular hits such as Dusty Springfield's "Just Lovin' You" and Acker Bilk's eternal "Stranger On The Shore". For the latter Henriques imitates the sound of a soaring seagull with his instrument, an evocative and atmospheric touch which evokes dreams ( or maybe memories ) of balmier foreign climes.Edwin Pouncey.
Produced by Ciara Nolan
Special thanks to Rob Owen
Design by EMI Art Department
Maybe it not pono to post like this, but where else are you going to find out who and what I am? The musicians of Hawaii and their ohana in the USA are able to see each other perform and regularly meet to play and discuss music. Barely a handful have ever seen Pat and I, let alone talk story with us..
So Pono or not, it REALLY isn't braggin', just re-introducing myself to you as I feel an empathy (As I said) to pidgin speakers.
Just you wait 'till I get the book !!
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 05/29/2008 02:48:42 AM
Message:
"So no ack if you no know wat you talkeeng about haah!"
Okay, da buggah stay one English creole, no mo one English dialect- I no linguist. But I stay get one fren talk "the Queen's good English" he say, an mo hard fo undahstan den Hawai'i kine "English". Pidgin stay mo closa to "Hollywood" English den da kine he stay talk.
Chris
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 05/29/2008 03:28:08 AM
Message:
Baz, Jack says there are only 2 kinds of music, good and bad, and that he plays them both!
I learned the "back porch" kind of music. It all lowers da blood preshah. Jus' press, or "slide".
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 05/29/2008 05:52:33 AM
Message:
Kden, already one week laidat we still goin strong. Wen brush my teefs, wen change my BBDs. Git on da jockey, day no stay loose so I can brede n tink yeah. Dea I made one ajusment. N now stay dawn time da stahs still sparkl a little but can tell da sun gonna rise above Kaneohe Bay soon, no mo wind -- get zero tide, no mo vog, can see da mountains. Da surf stay flat all ova iz glassy, good fo go squiding. Get plany termite wings n da two lizads in da living room stay fat, mo betta dey stay skinny den can get into da termite hole.
My dauda when cook her firs big dinna, waz spiral ham wid da glaze n da cranberry n da corn n da rice n da salad. She ask hir girlfrenz come try, dey all dat age wen dey stah learnin how fo cook fo real yeah. Dey no like try. Too bad waz reel good. Da boifren come ova layda laz nite, I wanda if my dauda waz shootin bullets? Woulda bin safa if he come da house mo early – like dinah time. Anyway, I tink lifes gonna be good today. Whachoo folks stay doin?
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 05/29/2008 06:28:49 AM
Message:
Basil, it's not only outside the US that the classic "Hawaii Calls" & hapa-haole music is what many people know of as Hawaiian music. It's what I grew up thinking, back in my youth in the vague midwestern states.
It wasn't until George Winston launched his Dancing Cat record label that slack key guitar became "the sound of Hawai`i" to more listeners' ears (as evidenced by its success at the Grammy Awards, suspected to be largely due to votes from mainlanders).
To the majority of Americans not in Hawai`i (and not in communities with large ex-pat populations), slack key & hapa-haole are as far as it goes. They are unlikely to know of Keali`i Reichel, Makaha Sons, Brothers Cazimero, the Beamer brothers, Olomana or any of the other "big" names that we think of, and they are certainly unaware of Na Kama, Natalie Ai Kamauu, Holunape, Weldon Kekauoha or other more recent stars of the genre. (The only "Hawaiian" music they might know outside of those two genres is IZ singing "Over the Rainbow.")
There's even been a small resurgence of hapa-haole in the Islands in recent years, with competitions and showcases, but it's battling against a large rejection mood that went against that music as being not representative of Hawaiian themes, starting with the resurgence of Island-based performers and composers in the late 1960s. It will take time for hapa-haole to be respected for its place in the continuum - but it is slowly happening. Publications such as yours (and other labors of love around the globe) are helping to bring this about.
This board is populated by people who play and appreciate all styles of music coming from and connected to Hawai`i. Some people only are into ki ho`alu, some only into hapa-haole, some only into the "renaissance" era of the '60s-'70s, some into more contemporary, and many are into a combination of several of these.
No one is saying that the music you play, promote and love is unworthy of attention. In addition, you've posted your credentials, your background, your photos, etc., other times on TaroPatch. You don't have to prove anything to anyone here (though it may seem that way to you, what with the distance factor across the Atlantic). Your posts have repeatedly shown that you have something valuable to contribute to the conversations.
If you need confirmation that you are "in" - well, you are "in." No need to pull the spotlight onto yourself any further; that's not what any of this is about - and you can jump right in, play a song, add your perspective, joke with everyone, and not have to speak/type a word of Pidgin to be able to do so.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 05/29/2008 10:03:04 AM
Message:
.Alright,so we reach home,my friend willard,who's actually from palau
Brah, one braddah named Willard from Palau? You almost lost me right deya because I tot you was pulling my leg. Willard from Palau. Hahahaha!!
quote:
Eh braddah ed,glad you wen bring dat up.Now dat I tink about it,willard was from guam.In fact he got into some trouble once and nothing wen happen,because his fada was some type of big shot in da government,true story!But duke and I know one palauan name edmond,with da last name lawrence.Back in early 80's he da one wen train me at tamashiros,buggah still there.I used to call him sir edmond lawrence of palabia,for real no laugh.
Reply author: hapuna
Replied on: 05/30/2008 6:52:48 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by braddah jay
Alright,so we reach home,my friend willard,who's actually from palau takes his chicken out da bag,da baggah all relax,head swaying side to side,just how should be.
Do you think Willard from Palau know one guy named Wills from Palau? He live Manoa.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 05/30/2008 11:52:08 PM
Message:
Do you think Willard from Palau know one guy named Wills from Palau? He live Manoa.
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Hapuna,actually willard was from guam,after 31 years my memory ain't so good.If braddah ed nevah bring it up,I neavah would have made da correction.Aloha
Reply author: hapuna
Replied on: 05/31/2008 06:39:01 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by braddah jay
Do you think Willard from Palau know one guy named Wills from Palau? He live Manoa.
Hapuna,actually willard was from guam,after 31 years my memory ain't so good.If braddah ed nevah bring it up,I neavah would have made da correction.Aloha
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I still find it odd get one guy Willard from Guam and Wills from Palau.
And da chicken thing sounds like Wills also.
Reply author: Reid
Replied on: 05/31/2008 07:39:54 AM
Message:You may find this interesting (from Freakonomics); I did - the whole entry, and commentary, is worth reading.
http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/28/what-will-globalization-do-to-languages-a-freakonomics-quorum/#more-2550
Comment:
"As with the first expert, English will continue to be the global language - a creole because English itself is a creole, formed from the pidgin that developed between, first speakers of Anglo-Saxon, the original language, and Old Norse, and between the post-Norse English tongue and Norman French, after the Battle of Hastings.
This is why English is so easy to learn - and hard to master. "
I would also add Celtic to the mix - as in Avon (river), cum/cym (a deep valley) and many more. Also, Latin, etc., etc. (Etcetera is Latin, yuk, yuk).
So, Basil, you are writing Pidgin, as am I now :-) The thrust of many of the comments is that more English based Pidgins will form, as Spanglish already has. Particularly Mandarin/English Pidgin. Good fun, yeah?
...Reid
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 05/31/2008 4:46:01 PM
Message:"Come and sit a while conmigo
while I tell you una historia...."
or
"Nunca haces pa' trabaje
he's allergic to the strain,
pero di le da la parranda
he's the first one on the train."
As long as the guy can sell me the right guage strings ai no ke'a
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 05/31/2008 4:48:19 PM
Message:BTW, all us stay talking, but how come no moa recipes? OK, some one wen' mention grinds, but.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/01/2008 02:36:14 AM
Message:Dey nebah ea lidat in da pilipine place. Fo pilpino ispagiti, need one chicken. Cleen da gut real good. Boil um in broth wid da odah stuffs in dea an da foot and comb. Some call um pilipino ispagiti, some call um milk gut. Oh, so ono!
Da res o da chicken stay junk. Feed um to da haole guests- dey like dat kine.
Chris
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/01/2008 06:24:18 AM
Message:Haysus caybegun who you fellas por mak de fun of de pilipino pepo. We stay de hardes werking of al de pepos waz werking on de plantations anden? I tink mebbe you stay jeluz, because ju hab yet to understan us guys. De kalamoongai time stay pau on de plantation. De taxi dance stay pau in town. De plantation all stay pau. De black dog not yet. We werk jez like erybody elz . Dis hahd you know. Dis hahd hahd timez you know. No mo work anden no mo money. Gotta watch de kidz cause de mite do batu. Kenna fix wid one slap of da hed you know. Shame on you guyz. Now you guyz get chicken?
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/01/2008 07:30:14 AM
Message:Now I'm hungry for pork adobo.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/01/2008 11:26:42 AM
Message:One day while working at tamashiro's,"sst ey boy",yeah tata."You look por me de soft opelu"...dis one? "No dat one too good,gib me da one de stomach ist ol sofe".What you do wit dat tata? "Hoo,dat one you soak in da botto wit planty garlic an oil loong time".Den what? "Wen you rayde you pote in de plying pan,no need oil coze o-rayde git...hmm no need.You ply dat one,you tly boy".Tata must be good ah."Hoo tlee cup rice no nupp".
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 06/01/2008 12:56:30 PM
Message:My son in law isss.............EHHHHHH...DICK! Eddic..dat is hiss purse name. Bermudez...dat iss hiss...aaaaaaa...middle name!
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/01/2008 3:40:03 PM
Message:Ho! Long time no hea pilipino kine pidgin- before time get one nebah from pilipine place, stay one hunred foateen yeah ol. Bymby him stay kinda ol, no moa like fahm all day Waipi'o, him go sta wid da hanai dahta up top. Every day da buggah stay work, smoke da home grown cigah, drink one fif wisky wen pau.
Befoa time, Waipi'o get community spirit. Ol Chinee pellah like giv us one lo'i fo community garden. I stay abou' tweny, pleeny oddah pellah like tweny- tweny fiv like help. Bymby Takio (da ol pilipino) he come by, like help. We stay clear da ches hi grass, all in one row, working. Takio, he squat down end a da row, start sickle. Bymby da buggah stay way up dea, us yung pellah way behine. He stay kick back, rol one cigah, shahpen da sickle a bit- no like embarrass us. Bymby we stay catch up, den we all like work plenny hard fo no let him get ahead. We stay soking wid da sweat, buss ass kine. Takio, he hardly stay moving, jus wave da sickle at da grass an da buggah fall down. No time he pinish da row, stay sit in da shade an laf at all da young pellah stay work so hard. One hunred foateen, n us guys all stay in da twenys. He say blood of da black dog da secret.
Speaking of black dogs, my girlfriend gave my daughter one of her rottweiler puppies. When it grew up, my daughter bred it to the smallest male rott she could find- because she felt bad about giving her to some big bad boy. Anyway the puppies were kind of scrawny and she couldn't sell them for hundreds of dollars like my girlfriend did with hers. One of them she just couldn't get rid of- and it grew up into the most timid, worthless excuse for a dog you can imagine. My daughter wanted to get rid of it, but she had spent a lot on food and wanted to sell it, but no one would even take it for free.
I told my daughter "No problem- I can sell it for a couple hundred dollars. It's all in how you word your ad". She thought that was great, so I ran my ad: "Black dog for sale- $2.50 a pound".
The calls came in, but for some reason my daughter wouldn't sell it. Wrong kind of buyers, she said. Prejudiced against older Philipinos, was my opinion.
Chris
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/01/2008 5:16:07 PM
Message:He one Pilipino- mebe I no spell um good. I live by him couple years before he go stay wi his hanai daughter. He nebbah know how old he stay- I wen figgah um out cause I get da history of da area down good, an he tell me he wen leave pilipine place when stay tirty six cause he no like his faddah beat him no moa, den he wen work off his indenture wi da plantation but he nevah like so when pau he wen stay Wamanu wi uncle Robert Kahele an Joe Kala his braddah, an I get da story from dere cause uncle Robert wen tell me.
Now da ol Chinee pellah wen give us da lo'i fo one garden, Nelson Chun, he wen tell me when small kid kine he an da oddah kids used to go tease da ol pilipino man in da swamp, make him so mad da buggah wen come out chase em wi one sickle, but dey nevah scared cause he only one ol man an no could run too fast. When dat Chinee pellah Nelson Chun stay 86, he wen cross da street but nevah hea too good an one Ka'a come too fast an he wen make. But dat ol pilipino pellah, he still stay live in da swamp, growing tobacco an 'uala an kalo, planting kalamungai cuttings any kine place. (He like use da wood for fence post- bymby get one nice row kalamungai tree!)
Chris
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 06/01/2008 5:47:07 PM
Message:k den, good enuf. mebe u heard Pacyao like my frien in Honokaa. Ho, he had cute cousin. Mebe yu had makapiopio kine stuff in da eah an no can hea so good. Eh Chris, get one storeh floatin around on beeg isle.
one haole guy in waipio, waz you? Da step laddah fall down by itself wen he steh fix da roof. An den wen he tie em down still fall down by itself! Den nite time wen he no steh, wen he went back mainland, get one lite steh on even tho he turn off da electricity. Az waz you? Dey say, da menehunes or somebodeh (not physical) waz foolin around wid him. wot? u waz on menehune lan?
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/02/2008 02:40:39 AM
Message:"Az waz you?"
No, I no get no moa story bout laddah. But I tell you, get plenny tru story ub da funy kine stuff wen happen aftah stay Waipi'o tirty yeah. Get plenny spirit down dea.
Ben tinking- Nelson stay 86 when wen make, an Takio/Pacyao whatevahs stay one ol pellah when Nelson stay one small kine kid- "no could run too fast". I nebah no how ol da ol man stay- only know ha to be at leas 114. Now I tinking ol pellah already when Nelson stay small kine, den 80 years latah mebbe stay moa den 114. I jes know my pake fren Nelson tink he wen been aroun forevahs.
Mebbe da pellah stay leave Waipi'o cause aftah 100 yeah too meny oddah pellah figah um out stay too ol, time fo hele some uddah place. Oa mebbe stay leave Waipi'o cause no get no moa black dog down dere.
Reply author: hapakid
Replied on: 06/02/2008 10:29:56 AM
Message:Maganda ng arau!
I lub da estories ob da Pinoy peeples! I lib in the Republika ng Pilipinas befoe time, an can espeak da aksen witout a trace ob da language. I had one auntie, Manang Bebing, and she make deliseeoos kalamungai wit plenty bago'ong and patis. But I no like it, so she make me bipstek an grin bins. I also no eat balut. But I lub da halohalo!
Huy!
Jesse
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/02/2008 11:07:29 AM
Message:I get plany werk fo do today, bud I had won what da pries call won epifany yeah. You know dakine wen da lite bulb goes on in da hed yeah. Befo time was NTB -- not too brite yeah.
Bud I wen notice wen I read back cause I like laugh yeah, get anykine in heah. Fo political reason I waz worried at first, da braddahs gonna get flamed lidat but nevah happen. In fac get even mo braddas joinin in.
I like say mahalos to you Bradday Dukie fo chancinem yeah. I tink dat TP stay mo open lidat now. Erybody get da knots outta da BBDs. Can almos walk straight anden. E gaz expensiv yeah, but I no tink dis tread runnin outta gaz yet. Go try look da early pot at Gregg's Blue Balls nden go look at da hole tread. Da buggah wen get won crystal ball or someting. Same ting yeah? Whatchoo figgah?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/02/2008 1:58:33 PM
Message:Eh good ting internet scratch n sniff n not sniff n scratch yeah, man would we be in troubl. Wid Bruddah Duke wintah time would be alas yeah, kenna open da window too cold. Ad leaz down hea get chance no mo snow outside, jez gotta make sua you upwin laidat eh. But da bugga stay sharp yeah.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/02/2008 2:29:17 PM
Message:Yeah would be interesting, butchoo know dis iz hia education yeah. Git standahds yeah. Anyways, back to Hoof Hearted we go hookem up n ledem rip wen dakine get lo.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/02/2008 3:41:06 PM
Message:I want you guys to know that Duke is a perfect gentleman. He never did anything pootankey while I was around. I even went in one elevator with him at the Marriott. Matter of fact when you hug him, he smells fresh and clean. Downey fresh.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/02/2008 3:42:29 PM
Message:So?
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/02/2008 5:49:29 PM
Message:Uncle peter,braddah ed you see how lolo dis buggah,only now I catch on.Hoof hearted,how you figga,my best friend and still nevah catch on.My kids still rememba dat day in the van,me I'd rather foget
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/02/2008 5:58:20 PM
Message:[quote]Originally posted by wcerto
I want you guys to know that Duke is a perfect gentleman.
Eh auntie wanda,das only because he no like scolding from braddah ed.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/02/2008 5:59:05 PM
Message:Eh braddah Jay whatsamattayou. You neva take your smaht pills, Dey callem bitamins you know. Sheez diz kids nowdays dey neva lisen.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/02/2008 6:02:45 PM
Message:Hey Menpachi Man- tell them about the obake story from small kid time boy scout camp. The one written about in that book about the sugar plantation family on Big Island that you knew. That is a very good obake story. I have a friend on O`ahu who had the choking ghost. He said it was like a ton sitting on his chest, pinned down to the bed and couldn't move. It went away as suddenly as it appeared. He told his ma the next day and she had him move his bed so it no pointed toward the doorway and he never had a problem after that.
And guess what (probably won't excite you, but I was excited) - to see lots of red menpachi at Tamashiro Market. And it was not expensive. Now you do not spear those little kine fish do you? What do you do to catch them? On a rod or nets or what.?
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/02/2008 6:08:26 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
Eh braddah Jay whatsamattayou. You neva take your smaht pills, Dey callem bitamins you know. Sheez diz kids nowdays dey neva lisen.
Uncle Peter,haad head yeah,das why I no mo hair.No learn,das why I stay ducking all da time.My wife hand pretty fast,but on my good days I look like ali,slipping,and moving.Float like a butterfly run like a bee.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/03/2008 04:43:04 AM
Message:I do not know what there is about men that makes this a feat of skill and manliness. A woman would be mortified if someone asked her if sheef hearted.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/03/2008 04:47:45 AM
Message:Eh, Braddah Duke! Dis t'read one example of clarity through communication. Shoots.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/03/2008 06:25:15 AM
Message:Mebbe but da wahines dey no fut, oe dey no fut in public I tink en wen dey get caught dey turn al red lidat yeah. Hence da term futless yeah.
But won time you know I wen surf up at Chun's reef up nort shoa wid my girfriend at da time. She waz reel preddy yeah da white bikini yeah go stay on da shoa fo one tan. We waz da oni ones deah. Waz won reely nice day yeah. I go out Chuns n surf.
Wen pau surf I came in she waz about thirty yahds up da beach. I get outta da wada n I tink I heah won jet comin in lo from somewea, but we stay way outta da jet path anden. Az I go walk closer to my girlfriend lidat da sound gets louda yeah and she get da mona lisa smile lidat but she staht to turn color yeah.
Den I knew it waz her yeah n she waz cutting dat one from da time I get outta da wada to da time I wen walk up da beach to her. Musta been about haf a minute. Stopped me in my tracks. N waz real loud too. Waz one bull fart yeah da longest but not loudest won I eva heard. She waz probaly saving dat one fo one reel long time. I didn' know what fo say cause I heardem, but kenna talk about it too her bumbai she gonna get real mad. So I flash da double eyebrows yeah n she still got so mad. Daz da mos memorable thing I can tink wen I tink about her. Romantic yeah?
Reply author: `Ilio Nui
Replied on: 06/03/2008 06:34:57 AM
Message:
quote:
Ma, it would all depend on weddah she had one dog to take da blame
I resemble that remark!!!!!!!!
dog
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/03/2008 10:34:18 AM
Message:Yep,get some sistas out there who can hang wit da best,just ask sir duke.and uncle peter only confirms dat even moa.And auntie wanda,women buckaloose.Only ting SOMETIMES sound cute,on da ears not da adda scentses.
Reply author: kihoalukid
Replied on: 06/03/2008 11:40:18 AM
Message:aisoos, you guys goin buy me one new keyboard or wat, i wen spit coffee on em dis morning, and iced tea on em dis aftanoon
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/03/2008 11:44:23 AM
Message:Braddah duke I still stay rollin.Not making fun of our friend darren,who is hearing impaired.He named his bowling team,NO-LIMIT,being one rascal,I went up to da console and type a new name for da team,NO-NIMITZ.Only because dat's how he said em.Wen duke was pau laughing he wen point em out,darren wen turn around point his finga at me and laugh too.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/03/2008 12:53:04 PM
Message:I remember when my oldest daughter just started kindergarten. She musta been 5 years old. She came home from school and told me that little Johnny said the "F" word at school. I just about fell over. I couldn't figure how this sweet, innocent little girl would have any idea what the "F" word would be. We don't even say sheesh hardly at our house. So I asked her just exactly what is the "F" word. She said, Mommy, you know. I said I do not know, please tell me. She said she would get in trouble if she said the "F" word. I promised her that if she told me what she heard, that I no would wash her mouth out with soap. So she said, you know, Mom. You know the "F" word -- fuht. Whew. Glad I did not have to explain the other "F" word to her. Dodged a bullet on that one.
And Braddah Ed: Paul better keep his mouth shut if he knows what side of the bread his butter is on. Just like yoorf hearts don't stink, neither do mine. That is if I would ever do such a thing, which I wouldn't. It wouldn't be ladylike. Right Paul, who shares my bed?????
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/03/2008 2:19:25 PM
Message:Ovah da limits dere, GS! Womens goine lead cause dey get da head AND da bed!
"Das right, de womens are smartah, das right... de womens stay smartah in ebry way"
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/03/2008 2:37:06 PM
Message:Chris - I am glad you quoted that very akamai song. I think Braddah Ed needs to listen to it and take it to heart. Chris is smarter than I gave him credit for. At least his doctor wife might be nice to him. See, he knows which side his bread is buttered on!
Besides which, women think with their brain whereas men think wit dat little puhi ting that gets inna way allatime.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/03/2008 2:37:40 PM
Message:And women can multi-task.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/03/2008 3:13:58 PM
Message:Eh bradah Ed. Don't fall fo dat one, it's one trick dey pull alatime lidat. You try look da bread oni get two sides, dis one n dat one. Still going taste da same. N fo Chis's wife lidat, she won docta yeah, dey always goin tell you "look into da lite" or "Don't look into da lite, look at my eah." Eh wai I wanna lookin yo eah? But what point iz I I I fogot what da point iz. But no giv up so eazy n no look into da lite n no look into da eah. Kden. My werk hea iz pau.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/03/2008 3:21:37 PM
Message:Stiff neck. Ha-ha. I get it! Just don't take it and go around that Tita ova Waikiki what chased us away. Then YOU would get it and I am sure it is something you don't want.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 06/03/2008 3:53:48 PM
Message:
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/03/2008 4:33:37 PM
Message:Momi da quiet one, but ho, she taking care of you guys. Ha-ha. See, the woman is smarter. She is trying to help put you out of our misery.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 06/03/2008 6:20:35 PM
Message:Pū ka hi`u.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/04/2008 11:50:06 AM
Message:Pehea `oukou?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/04/2008 8:57:31 PM
Message:Eh bradda Duke,
Momi wen fut, I waz jez askin how you guyz waz, n Ed wen say can do. Kden alohas
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 06/05/2008 06:15:53 AM
Message:
quote:Oh, mo futs, ah?
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Back to shooting da breeze.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/06/2008 07:33:05 AM
Message:Kden, let da circus begin once mo ovah hea. I tink we gotta broaden oua horizons n da stuff we like talk about hea. Wen we go to da udda treads lidat we end up stinkin’em up yeah. Bumbai da udda membahs gonna tink “eh deez guys lolos dey alla time talk about da fut, n who wen fut, n wea dey wen fut. Dey kenna get beyond da fut. Sheeze!!!”
Fo us guyz we gotta do betta. We gotta take da hia road yeah. Kenna be jez about da fut anymoa. Dey iz life beyond dat—n I seen it, n betta yet I smelt it. It waz jez like heaven I tink.
So we go talk about something else. What you figuah? I kenna rememba da name but as someone famous ova hea once sed “ If can, can….If cannot, can”. So we gotta hold oua heads high, take da finga off da nose n imua.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/06/2008 08:54:24 AM
Message:Yeah no. Dey getem down to one science. Dea's iz `ono, it's so rich. I tink dey add da fat yeah. Anden da luau leaf, always tender, dey pulledem da right time. Da buttafish iz sooo good -- kahi momona. Da beef or da chicken, you always like some moz even do had plany yeah.
But you know what? You can make your own too n can taste just az good. Jez gotta get one good steemah, good luau leaf n ti leaf. Anden you ready too go. Cookin az my hobby, but I tink my mout stay killing me.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/06/2008 10:44:09 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
What oddah kine kaukau you like talk about?
Oh. Leonard's Bakery. Liliha Bakery. Dee Lite Bakery.
Depens yeah, how many kaus you like? I cook pretty good so we don’t spend a lotta money on restaurants. Owa house, Pake style I'm da cook for da family n my dawda lidat when she stay in New York she always dreams of my food lidat yeah, n always ask fo Care package yeah. So I did pretty good on dat one. N I no like go town n eat ‘cause cost too much money. Eh wonce I come tru da tunnels, iz pau I can jez feel da stress buckleloose az soon as I see da Bay tru da tunnels. I ain’t going back to town unless I really really hafto like gotta go Costco or sometin important lidat yeah.
Anywayz, Kaneohe no get too many restaurants lidat, but da wons we get dey good enuff. Da bes won is Pahke’s across from wea Star market used to be. Da owna used to be won chef at anada fo star restaurant town side. Da pahking lot always full nite time. Dey get da bes pake food n stey reasonable too. Kim Chee’s is jez down da block, look like won hole in da wall, but dey pretty good too. Da week dey lunch special still unda $7.00. N you get two choice entre like BBQ meat; BBQ chicken; Kalbi; shrimp tempura; bi bim bop; pork chop; tonkatsu; squash n plani mo uda stuff dat I kenna tink of right now. All dis wid az much kim chee az you like.
Up da block get Koa House and dey mobetta den Liliha Bakery I tink, ‘cept no mo da bakery. But da lines fo breakfas go out to da street weekend time. I orda banana pancake takeout so I no hav to stan in line. I-hop wen open laz yeah at da mall, dey okay but I tink dey gotta try mo hard even tho dey get da lines too outside da doa. By da Hawaii State Credit Union get won new Japanese restaurant called Domo. Dey get good food n price too. So we ain't exactly hurtin down hea.
If I go townside da onei place I still go alla time iz W&Ms Hamburger on Waialae I useto go dea from small keed time, ovah fifty yeahs you know. Small keed time n college time waz almos everyday I useto ride up to da window on my bike n dey would hav my order waitin already—deluxe bbq hamburger, fries n won small coke. Waz unda one dollah back den, now gotta pay about $5.60 n da orda no stay waitin, git hahd time finding pahking lidat, dea real successful. Den of course get Zippy's n L&L all ova da place -- not great but you can survive on da food. I like dis small Japanese place down Ala Moana across da street from wea Towa Records useto be calle Toraya. We been going dea ova tweny years -- dea good. Mebbe if get guests lidat I go takem da Willows, my dad's old hangout, but real steep da prices.
So how now brown cow?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/06/2008 11:44:54 AM
Message:Iwilei iz mo close. If you buy freeza stuff you no like da stuff fo spoil. N da gas station ‘cause it’s Costco iz mo cheap. So mobetta go town, but da crowds dea and da pahking iz a hassle. Da credit union iz da same, Hawaii State Employees FCU right behind Zippys by da mall. Da udda pake restaurants are Kin Wah and Mui Kwai.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/06/2008 11:55:22 AM
Message:Now you guys talking...food my type of talk story.For your moneys worth,and not bad food,rays cafe on king and gulick.Prime rib,french toast sandwich,steak and lobster.The local breakfast menu is a winner too.You guys evah tried 1 can coconut milk per laulau,my version of luau leaf,with lomi and poi and raw maui onion with hawaiian salt on da side.I usually use da pork with sweet potato,nevah try em with da butter fish yet.Uncle peter what your specialty?How bout you braddah ed? Me i'm da steam fish man,one time I wen catch some fello iron workers at da yard,buggahs just wen pau work,and thirsty like hell.So I wen surprise dem with pualu fillet,no bones nothing but da meat,just steamed ovah one wok.On one bed of diced...ginger,green and round onion,chinese parsely.I also cover da fish wit da diced veg,den da hot peanut oil,and last but not least da kikoman soyu,tried reg soyu,kikoman da one.Ho da braddahs nevah believe was palani,da owner said I was in da wrong trade.Anyway now I hungry.Aloha
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/06/2008 3:48:27 PM
Message:Well, now I can certainly vouch for Duke and Jay's kaukau. Oh, that gandule rice is so ono. And Duke, no foget those mushrooms wi bacon & gahlic powdah.
I do believe that I make pretty good Ohio substitutions for da kine kaukau. No mo imu so I cook the pork inna crock pot. Get one big, plenny fat pork shouldah. Rub wit liquid smoke. Rub plenty Hawaiian sea salt. No mo luau leaves and no mo ti leaes, so I put a layer of baby spinach on bottom of crock pot. Put pork with stuff rubbed all over on insai crock pot, then plenny more baby spinach to cover him all up. Den pour lilbit pineapple juice and wee bit shoyu. Com him on slow all day till fall off bone. Yummy.
No have ti leaves for laulau, but I put a couple shrimps, maybe one or two scallops, on chunk pork, one chunk chicken. Den put some baby spinach, maybe some chopped up long onions and some shiitake. Lilbit Sam Choy sesame dresing or mayonnaise. Lilbit shoyu. Wrap in banana leaves cause no mo ti leaves. Steam them in every pot we got. Fits good in one spaghetti pot with steamer insert. Also fits good in wok with bamboo steamer basket. Also have tried inside oven all wrapped up very tight in reynolds wrap.
I make haupia just fine at home with low fat coconut milk from the can. Make one macadamia pie jalike hillbilly pecan pie, onliest just use macadamias. Put some whipped cream (not ccool whip) on top.
Then I make one hillbilly recipe but goes good with Hawaiian kaukau. Not Yo Mama's Banana Pudding. Two boxes of french vanilla instant pudding. One can eagle milk. One block cream cheese. One container cool whip. 7 big bananas. Chessman cookies. Soften cream cheese to room temp; whip eagle milk and cream cheese togeddah. Make pudding wit any kine milk. Works jus fine wit skim. Can use skim milk and low fat cream cheese to cut down fat grams, but if you going to live dangerously, then just go for it with the regular stuff. OK, make pudding with 1/2 cup less milk total. When pudding mixed up good add to cream cheese and eagle milk., Fold together real good. Then fold in cool whip. Same come cool whip for top also. Then get one EZ foil pan or 9x13 pan and put layer of cookies on bottom, then layer sliced banans, them layer pudding. Keep going until no mo stuff left. Keep in fridge for2-3 hours or overnight mo bettah. You will find that men will propose to you women; girls will become VERY friendly with you men and you will make plenny friends when they taste this concoction. It has jillion calories and jillion fat. A definite special occasion dessert. Could make it more tropical by addig other fruit as well, or ocnut on top lidat.
We had good dim sum in Waikiki. Had one they called scallop & taro puffs. Yum. And their siu mai was about as good as it gets!
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/06/2008 4:05:43 PM
Message:Sistah you living too dangerously, gotta cut back anden.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/06/2008 5:15:03 PM
Message:Eny time we go Waimanu, Laupahoehoe Nui, li dat, always goine imu one pua'a. I nevah like no maia stump in dere- o mebbe jes liddle bit. But da ti leaf da one. Wen da buggah hit da red rocks, make ono kine smoke, all da ai come purple, get da ono flavah. But bettah get plenny ti leaf, unless you stay like charcoal pig! Tin foil en da imu?! Ho, some junk, dat! No mo flavah! Mebbe some pellah like da kalua taste li one soda can, but me I no like.
Any kine can holo holo go in da imu. No fish, tho- cook um too long, stay junk. Cept uhu- uhu stay ono in da imu. Pua'a, of course- den some maia, green and ripe; ulu, kalo if get (Pua'a grine all da kalo, hard fo fine!), any kine, all insai. Mo bettah da pua'a stay on top- all da fat drip down, give um flavah. Ulu and kalo unda, cause if no mo nuf ti leaf den da pua'a no charcoal.
Bes one (an dis small kine secret cause I no holoholo um)- hemo da top offa plenny whole garlics, den put da ripe maia on top- da sweet juce from da maia goine leak insai da kalua garlic, an wi da ti leaf smoke goine come so ono, goine broke da mout!
Course, da laulau- gotta get! Braddah Jay stay akamai- da niu stay da secret. But no mo from da can- junk dat! Grate da fresh, ripe niu plenny fine- we like one broke Toyota spring, grine um round an sharp an cut um wi one XX file fo teeth. Plenny hana pa'a fo make um, but goine las till you make. Be sure you try um (da niu) fo make sure da buggah stay sweet. Den you hemo da stem o da awapuhi- mo old bettah. (can use da hau if no moa awapui, but moa weak and da awapuhi get nice flavah. Fibah from da niu stay strong and get um right dere, but some hard on da manu!) Wack um on da pohaku til da fibahs stay loose, den wi da bundle of fibah scoop da grated niu an twis um like wringing laundry. All da cream goine drip out, an wen pau da grated niu goine taste li sawdust- no mo flavah. Ho, some sweet da fresh cream wen you make um lidat! Can wip um like da cream from da pipi but no, we goine make laulau!
Fo laulau da lau luau sta da mos improtan part. Da ol buggah always goine stay itchy, tough, an junk flavah. Before time I use for be one mahi ai for da lau luau- wen pik 1000 poun a mont o moa. I nevah wen sell one leaf stay moa den two week ol- an me, I neva like grine one leaf stay mo den one week ol, but two week still can. So you nevah like pik mo den two leaf from one kalo, da oddah ones stay junk already. An no can use any kine kalo- pake stay so-so, but Pololu is da kine- one kine kalo stay onleh fo da lau. Any kine goine work, if stay young, but me I grow Pololu an some pake cause mo bettah.
Kay den, so get da lau luau an plenny ti leaf cause wen pik da nui kine from da big pile you wen get fo da imu- das da lau an da lau fo laulau. Get pua'a too, cause you wen backstrap da buggah waiting fo da imu. An made da nui already. Kay den, need kalo, ulu, uhi (sweet potato okay, but I nevah like da sweet in da laulau), green maia- any kine 'ai (starch). Need one green papaya. Need limu, salt- something for flavah da buggah.
Den you goine take half dozen of the lau luau, some nui, some manini kine, den goine take half dozen moa cause like plenny lau in da laulau, an da secon ones goine face da oddah way from da firs ones cause can make um biggah dis way. Den tro in da 'ai- if only get one kine, den tree-four chunk, oa if get plenny kines den trow in one of each kine. Now da pua'a- couple fat chunks. Now lissen- dis one importan part! Take couple small kine chunk of da green papaya- no use too much, cause bittah. Rub da sap on da pua'a chunks, and put da papaya a loko oa da pua'a. Dis goine make da pua'a melt in da laulau- you goine wondah whea da pua'a wen go. Kay den, one pinch salt, some limu, den douse da buggah wi da fresh cream- no mo from da can! (Da Mendoza's frozen one if no can make um fresh- but da can kine stay junk!) Kay den, one moa small kine secret- one clove peeled garlic- dis one you nevah holoholo so you slip um in on da sly- only ting you wen carry in was plenny garlic and one gallon shoyu for marinate da next pua'a, so no feel too bad!
Now da ti leaf, you nevah wen debone um cause hana pa'a an fo why? So you jus wack two nui kine, an make one "X" wid um. Fold da lau luau ovah da insai kine, den place on da ti an wrap da ti aroun da laulau wiout turn da buggah upsaidown cause da cream all goine leak out. Da secon ti, when pau wrap, da stem on da en goine go undah da bone on da backsai oa da leaf (you nevah wen debone um, I hope?)dis goine hold da buggah close so no need da string.
Kay den, da pohaku stay red an da lua no stay too deep- cause when pau you nevah like no dirt fo stay below da top of da lua. Any logs no stay pau, tro um outsai da lua. Wi one fork stick, get couple-tree red pohaku fo put insai da pua'a, cook um mo bettah. Brush da ash wi da ti- I no like um in da pua'a! Small kine maia stump okay if get plenny red pohaku. Whack um two-tree times on da pohaku an da buggah goine shred. No use too much! Da ti have to hit da rock fo make smoke, is why. Jus small kine fo da firs steam. Now, plenny plenny ti- no need take um off da bunch, whole tops two-tree feet thik. Den da ulu, kalo, an green maia in da middle; da pua'a on top dese ones. Long side da pua'a tro in da laulau, right side up. Har fo fin da laulau in all da ti when pau, so count um! Top a dat, da ripe maia- apple, or Hawaiian cooking kine. When no one stay looking, slip da garlics undah da ripe maia- no foget hemo da top so da juce come insai!
Kayden, plenny moa ti, whole tops, stem to middle like one tipi my kupuna live in. PLENNY ti- no can have too much, but can have too litle! If wen use one maia, da lau go on top, middle to edge. Very important- place da ti like thatching a hale- da ends go PAST da ti you wen use for undah da 'ai. Den da next layah start a litle moa up. (Ti makes one ono thatch- last some long time even Waipi'o side!) When pau thatch, bury da buggah wi da damp dirt you wen dig outa da lua. Sprinkle a little wai if stay dry.
Now, watch da lepo. If steam come out, bury da spot. If come dry one place plenny quick, moa lepo- too hot dere. Byembye go surf. When pau he'e nalu, trow da net. Den scoop da prawn, poun opihi, lidat. Go get mango, ohia ai, papaya, lilikoi- any kine fruit. While da i'a stay smoking on dose logs you wen trow outta da lua, make one fruit salad and sprinkle grated nui, den cover with cream.
Byembye five, six houah lidat goine pass- keiki kine pua'a oa plenny pohaku den foa houah nuff. Goine need one ipu of wai. Wi da husk from da niu, hemo da lepo from da imu- ho, some hot! Now you goine hemo da ti leaf, start from da top, careful kine cause no like lepo in da 'ai. Da wai stay fo wen da manu come hot- dip um, feel so ono! Da ti leaf from da top you goine use foa covah da lepo roun da imu- nevah goine be one speck lepo in da 'ai! If da lua too deep, some hard fo get da lepo outside, but das okay, cause no need pull da ti all da way out- can covah da lepo still insai da rim. Byembye goine be one big kine pile 'ia n 'ai in da middle of plenny hot ti leaf- can move um to da flat pohaku covered with ti, oa everyone try take any kine dey like grine right from da imu. Half shell from da nui good foa scoop da kalua pig. Everting else come easy.
When you goine grine dis kine- kalua pig, kalo, ulu, uala, maia, uhi, da bes laulau evah- ho, no foget da garlics!- den da smoke fish, fruit salad, grilled opihi plus raw kine wi da limu, prawns, mebbe he'e lua'u wid da fresh cream an popolo and uala tips- all dis you wen holoholo, Ho! da mout goine stay so broke no one ebbah goine fix um- you nevah like eat supermarket kine again!
Chris
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/06/2008 5:43:25 PM
Message:Eh pretty good. So what Chris, you waz sandbagging?
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/06/2008 5:45:34 PM
Message:Braddah ed,das da same rays cafe.In fact afta dey wen move the nephew wen try keep da same location,only ting da food was'nt da same,nevah last.Ray's still get line outside,only ting lilly bit bigger.Ho braddah ed you go way back ah? I wen call lung fung chop suey dat stay listed in niu valley,das da same one.Only ting dey wen move almost 30-years ago.Alicia's still goin strong,like da bucalau salad,good poke too.Pohakus no mo,da buggah one alternator shop now,painted avacado green...yikes!Ho braddah chris das some work you wen describe,all da moa dat buggah must be unreal.I tink if I goin make em dat way,I goin make planny.What you wen describe,das right down my alley.Tanks fo sharing
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/06/2008 5:45:49 PM
Message:Sandbagging??
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/06/2008 5:58:03 PM
Message:Brah you rote real plany. We should get togeda -- we could rite won novel yeah.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/06/2008 6:33:29 PM
Message:"So when you going be moving back YPO again?"
I wen give da hale to my keiki kane- an he nevah keep um too good I tink. No mo kalo in da lo'i, vine on da fruit tree, lidat. Sides, all dem mahi 'ai neva need one doctah, stay healty from hana pa'a. Wen/if we stay move back Big Ilan, I goine stay wi my wahine some place stay need one doctah, o I goine stay on our ahupua'a all day walk from one road. Waipi'o get plenny too many pellah dese days, plenny huhu- oh, I like um plenny, but Laupahoehoe Nui stay mo bettah, out pass Waimanu. I one jungle boy at heart.
Course get plenny place in Waipi'o wea we can jam! Bes one my fren's hale on da beach- stay set up fo dat. My place plenny good too, but I stay scaid fo see um!
"and have seen those red pohaku explode too"
Need special kine pohaku for imu! Kine get plenny small kine puka, all same size. No mo puka (pores), KABOOM! Big kine puka, Kaboom. All kine size puka, kaboom, o jus goine bus.
One time I wen buil one campfiah on tiny kine ili ili, almos sand. Was like new yeah in Hilo- some fireworks! Cold dinnah dat night!
Chris
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/06/2008 6:40:10 PM
Message:By da way, I jus wen notice- dis topic get mos replies, mos views, mos pages- da bomb en da web site!
Stink bomb, dat is...
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 06/06/2008 7:08:24 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by ypochris
By da way, I jus wen notice- dis topic get mos replies, mos views, mos pages
Sorry Braddah Chris - da tread wit da mosest views, pages, li'dat is "Seattle Area Experiment" under da kanikapila section. It's all Neeej's fault (god bless her)!quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Eh Momi! Which pahkeh restaurant in Kaneohe was it dat I told you I was eating at when I sent you da photo text message showing da plate of kau yuk I was eating during my last trip ova deya in March? I tink you told me fo go eat at Pake's but I ended up going to da one noddah one couple blocks furdah down.
You wuz at Mui Kwai, I tink, brah. I wen tell you go Pahke's, but you wen ovahshoot 'em. Mui Kwai get brok da mout ginger chicken - I remembah goin' deah small kid time (no comments!). Pahke's used to be Golden Crown, and dat's usually wea my family goes wen we want Chinese food. Deah taro duck is AWESOME but I donno if on da reggalah menu - I tink you gotta spesho order 'em. An da cake noodle wit red vinegah - I gettin' so ono fo it just typing about it! But we went Joyful Garden (wat kine name dat fo Chinese restaurant!), da new place in Windward City las' time I was home, and wow, waz ono.
My favorite dessert in dis whole wide world is Kane`ohe Bakery custard pie. Was my granfaddah's favorite too. Get one bakery in West Seattle wea da chef won one big a** trophy from one world championship, and it's da besest bakery in Seattle. But not as good as Kane`ohe Bakery custard pie, brah.quote:
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
Anywayz, Kaneohe no get too many restaurants lidat, but da wons we get dey good enuff. Da bes won is Pahke’s across from wea Star market used to be.
Peter, Retro says dis is one confusing ting about Hawai`i peepo (maybe ony Kane`ohe peepo, yah?) - we use all kine landmarks not deah any mo! "Go Kailua bound down Kam Highway, pas' wea da Tasty Treet used to be, den turn right befo' wea Dodie's Grocery stoah used to be, den go pas' da old District Pahk . . . " on and on and on.
My faddah's landmarks are hardwear stores, sporting goods stores, and auto parts stores. Minezes are restaurants and supahmahkets. As why hahd.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/06/2008 7:44:42 PM
Message:Da Hele-on bus schedule say da bus stop in Honokaa "Across from the Dairy Queen". Onli ting, da Dairy Queen wen pau li 1985 or summin lidat. 20 yeah latahs da schedule still say da same ting- eben do dey when buil one uddah drive in deah couple yeah back, Blanes I tink...
Reply author: hapakid
Replied on: 06/07/2008 09:54:40 AM
Message:Went to Pahke's in Kaneohe last summer with my uncle and auntie. Great food, local atmosphere. Try to deep fried lettuce.
Jesse Tinsley
Reply author: hapuna
Replied on: 06/07/2008 11:45:05 AM
Message:Whats up with da MacDonalds and Subway on da list. No way.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/07/2008 2:07:21 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Momiquote:
Originally posted by ypochris
By da way, I jus wen notice- dis topic get mos replies, mos views, mos pages
Sorry Braddah Chris - da tread wit da mosest views, pages, li'dat is "Seattle Area Experiment" under da kanikapila section. It's all Neeej's fault (god bless her)!
Okay but, diz one is mo fun, you guyz had three yeahs head staht n you still oni experimanting anden. What "Seattle Experiment", you guyz neva when figgahem out yet oa what.
Why you no change da name too "Eh We Still Trying Hahd But someday
We Gon Getem" oa dis won " Eh Don't Hold Your Breath" or dis won "Chai Wait Eh You Guyz Da Experiment Still Goin On We Still Trying Hahd But someday We Gon Getem
But Don't Hold Your Breath" . Now dat should be da title of da tread.
You guyz oni stay Seattle. Us we stay da ho whirl lidat anden da numbahs stay mo high den anyting else deez past two weeks. Da ratio of replies to reads iz mo betta. I tink da numbahs speek fo dem selves if numbahs coold speek.
On top a dat wid us guyz dis iz won sensory experiance yeah, we actually stay a`ala (fragant), az rite Duke? Furdamore we talk to each udda jez like we knows each udda long time n let da manamanalima run jez like da mout yeah. We get guyz talkin too each udda n not at each udda, tradin recipes, wot da bes restaurant,da bes custad pie (dat comes from Deluxe Bakery next door to Kaneohe Bakery) talkin hanabatta daze, hookin up from across da whirl lidat. We not oni lookin back small keed time but foward wen no mo keed time. We lookin to da left, to da rite -- up down anykine way. Why you mite ask? Cause we stay good guyz az why. No udda tread get dat.
Wen you guyz wasn't lookin won revolution wen happen ova hea.
But da bes won iz no need Spall Check yeah? What you think?
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 06/07/2008 3:24:10 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
you guyz had three yeahs head staht n you still oni experimanting anden.
Da experiment is how long goin' take for guavasunrise fo join us guyz.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/07/2008 3:45:05 PM
Message:Oh, sorry ah. Eh Ed, go hurry up n join da Seattle guyz befo Momi slap yo hed.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 06/07/2008 4:01:40 PM
Message:Can spell check but you gotta teech da dictionary fo speek us kine langage den maybe come good liʻdat. ony ting get alla kine spelleeng fo wot we stay talkeeng. And it is different if you wen lurn Molokaʻi, or Kauaʻi or Hawaiʻi kine pijin. You know aahh?
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 06/08/2008 08:43:17 AM
Message:
quote:Not da tread, `elemakule babooze - da experiment - da Seattle kanikapila!
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Me join da Seattle experiment? No wayz. Dat tread is for geezers.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/08/2008 11:10:45 AM
Message:Geea I jez stay com back from da beech n you guyz fightin already. Retro why you wen call GS won elemakule babooze? You tink he no get feelings or what? GS why you wen call dem da geezers wen you stay almos da same age?
You tink das fightin words? You baboozes iz bote to ol fo trow blows, you swing wonce you gon fall ovah anden cause kenna hole da cane. Bote you guyz would need yo asma inhalers befo yoo could tro blows. Anden you bote gone cry cause you don rememba what you fella stay fightin about. You guyz poho, waste time wid diz one. Mobetta you go play music iz mo fun. Jez chillout, n no use da "B" word n no use da "G" word. okay you baboozes?
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/08/2008 11:59:20 AM
Message:Maturity = reaching the point in life when the hair in your ears turns gray.
So, Ed, I guess I'm a "geezer". I'm also hungry from reading da lates' topics. Hows about someone design taropatch aprons, 'cause I no like drip on my clothes. Nice if da buggah get 2 pockets, one foa one hotpad, one foa inu of choice. Maybe one small kine pocket foa picks and capo. Yoa choice colors, one size fit most.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/08/2008 12:16:26 PM
Message:Eh kory,what dat mean if da buggah white instead of grey? Prepare fo da afta life? I'm hoping more like wisdumb
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/08/2008 1:18:14 PM
Message:Jay, I jus' gotta get ovah to my frien's place foa video da buggah. I get 3 or 6 tunes I like do. No worry about surprise, 'cause errybody heah know I like do a few more. Hapakid wen' tell me to face da light when recording foa bettah pitcha.
Can you imagine a band wit' matching aprons? Ones dat get one small pocket foa business cards!
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 06/08/2008 1:44:13 PM
Message:
quote:As why we trow words. We know each oddah too well awreddy. (Besides, he steh oldah dan me.)
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
You baboozes iz bote to ol fo trow blows, you swing wonce you gon fall ovah anden cause kenna hole da cane. Bote you guyz would need yo asma inhalers befo yoo could tro blows.quote:He means "Sheer Willpower" - that's the brand-name of his hair-color product.
Originally posted by guavasunrise
By da way, da hairs ontop my head, inside my nose, and inside my ears all still stay black...from sheer willpowah...
But we can talk no mo about Ed's physical appearance, cause of da WRP. Shhhh.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/08/2008 2:18:07 PM
Message:K'den. Da aprons get 4 pocket, 1 foa inu, 1 foa business cards, 1 foa picks an' capos, 1 foa whatevahs. Hows about one "carpenter's loop" on da side foa BBQ tongs?
Ed, da hair stay white awreddy. What, you nevah wen' spock Momi's pitchas from NWFolklife? Could see da white hairs on one beeg screen! 'Az why I still get one small kine screen. I always say, gray beats bald, but.
Da enchiladas stay in da oven, nuff foa tonight an'
foa breakfas' wit' fried eggs. But, den, I can talk story about food even when I stay full.
Eh, Duke, you ebber cook pancit canton? My cousin is pamous por her lumpia, eben doe she is Scandihoovian like me. Aysus! What is dis world coming to when de accent no more match de pace!
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/08/2008 4:19:36 PM
Message:Eh I jez gotup from my aftanoon nap yeah and you guyz make ukupaila message lidat yeah. Eh I know I no stay dreamin but da tread now kinda wen change from da time I wen fall asleep lidat. I tink I oni get couple questions yeah. dis iz like deja view. I know I saw diz movie befo but neva had Puakea n neva had apron wid bizness cahds.
Eh TS, howcome da sistahs gotta make da apron lidat? If da shurt get dirdy why no go takem off befo you pudem on. Not going get dirdy right? Use yo hed braddah. Da sistahs, dey jez like you, dey no like do anymo work den dey hafto. Go ledem crooze iz da weekend afta all. Jez go hemo da shirts if you no like gedem dirdy yeah.
Howcome when you eat yeah,you no try put da food in da mout n not on da cloes -- in da mout. Tase betta wen you gedem in da mout firz time wid da spoon -- no mo lint or string get stuck in yo teef or dencha if you no get teefs by now. But I no tase betta.
N howcome you guyz get hair commin outta your eah? Iz cold or what? Sheese I go beech today, come back to ol guyz trowin blows. I take won nap, I wake up n da ol guyz make da women go do slave labor. I tot dea waz hope fo you guyz up da nortwes. But oh wot won letdown. So you guyz ken play slack key or wot???
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/08/2008 4:29:55 PM
Message:Eh, Peter. Da aprons was jus' one suggestion. I always weah aprons at home. I got in da habit years ago when I worked at one catering place. I nevah wen' tell dat da wahine had foa sew da aprons! Was jus' one idea, practical foa us messy guys up heah in da upper lef'hand corner (cue seagull Gregg). As foa da shirt, WE NEED'EM heah! Las' week we was in 48 degree weather! It would get up to 58, 'az why dey stay calling da mont' "Junuary"!
Get one oddah plus foa da apron idea: afta plenny use, can boil'em foa soup!
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/08/2008 4:46:10 PM
Message:Oh yeah no da soup idea sounds preddy good. Erybody knows da soup tase betta on da secon n tird day yeah. Logically afta tree monts gonna be mobetta. You go tryem n tell us wot tase like?
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/08/2008 4:50:36 PM
Message:Shoots, Peter! No pilikia! But I only do soup by da week, oddawise da apron stay stiff an' crispy!
Sorta da week in review!
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/08/2008 5:01:47 PM
Message:Kden, go tell us nex week. We real ni`ele we like no. Latahs
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 06/08/2008 5:46:38 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck
K'den. Da aprons get 4 pocket, 1 foa inu, 1 foa business cards, 1 foa picks an' capos, 1 foa whatevahs.
Eh, Kory, why you need one pocket fo' one dog? I nevah know you get one dog?quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Or maybe I should be aiming dat one at Momi...
Eh, I tot we pau da fut paht arreddy.quote:
originally posted by Peter Medeiros
Eh TS, howcome da sistahs gotta make da apron lidat?
Mahalo, Petah, I wuz tinkin' dat! But I like da idea of one Taropatch apron. I one messy cook and one messy eatah, so I would use 'em. But I not one graphic designah, and I no mo sewing masheen. Does cafepress.com allow apron designs?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/08/2008 5:47:38 PM
Message:Well, I say Puakea Nogelmeier can talk anytime he wants with that velvet voice. He taught one workshop for us. Besides knowing plenty about the language and history, he can dance a mean hula, no shame dance keeping up with Keali` Reichel. I think, though, he no mo gray hair because of that stuff that men puts on they hair. He probably would like an apron, too, because he come from Minnesota, I think. Cold ova dea. I dunno how he developed that lovely voice. But sometimes he writes "odd" songs - Nematoda and the Toad Song. I remember Keali`i telling us that Puakea has no TV at his home in Manoa just on principle. However, Keali`i says when Pueakea visits Keali`i's home where got one wide screen TV, cannot even talk to Puakea because he's got his nose in the TV and ignores everything else like mesmerized.
But even though malihini, I can vouch for Puakea being able to speak dakine. When he lests his hair down, so to speak, he can talk pidgin good as Braddah Ed or da Joka or Menpachi Man.
But I tink his real name is Marvin or something like that.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 06/08/2008 7:15:31 PM
Message:Ho, Menpachi Man, I know why you nevah pos' long time befo' dis - you stay writeen one book! Wit' Professah Petah and YPO Chris, you guyzes can write book-book-book!
Amy Tan says in "The Opposite of Fate" that her mother would quote a Chinese proverb that translated to "Loud farts don't smell, the really smelly ones are deadly silent." I confirm I am a small in stature; you may draw your own conclusions.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/08/2008 7:28:12 PM
Message:Oooh, Menpachi Man -- das a impotan' storeh wha I neva see in da mo`olelo books I stay read. How all dem books can be so defeckive an leaf out impotan' storeh lidat? I very inderested in da puhi `ilikea. Was puhi nui o puhi chiisai like Kepane kine puhi? Whea da paiting cheekeen get da wahine cheekeen fo make da kine egg for hatch? Did Pele evah make da 2 ailanz grow togeddah - mebbe da `aina now call O`ahu home of da reglah futs?? Whea da ailanz stay now? Do haole tourists li'me n Paul go ovah deah or dey no ruin da `aina? Is dat what dey call VOG when me & Paul was deah? Da smell like Cleveland steel mills, yea?
Did you descend from da tekie peepos or da chiisai peepos? Or are dey da same now days?
Nah, nah. Jus makin one kine joke. Neva like make fun a gennelman's puhi. He tend to get sensatif bout it. It one impotan' tool fo ensure survival.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/08/2008 10:48:53 PM
Message:Aikureesh, we almos madem tree daze wid out won fut story. Azwhyhard.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/09/2008 04:06:02 AM
Message:I wen' practice steel. Eh, Mempach! I didn't know you was one anthropologist / folklorist! I wen' sit tru movies wit' less plot.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 06/09/2008 07:53:43 AM
Message:
quote:To borrow from another thread:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Teechah's pet.quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Brah, you old enuff to know dat jealousy not going get you nowheya.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 06/09/2008 08:00:00 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by sirduke58
Wat you fallahz wen play today?
I wen practice planny `ukulele tunes yestahday, but none of dem was Hawaiian!
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 06/09/2008 09:05:23 AM
Message:
quote:On Saturday, I played Hawaiian music for three hours ... on the radio shows. On Sunday, I did more work on a plan to bring Bill Tapia to Seattle in late July.
Originally posted by sirduke58
Wat you fallahz wen play today?
Does that count?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/09/2008 09:39:11 AM
Message:Kden, you guyz back on track I waz goin giv you won lecture fo aking up, but from da time i stahted riting em tweny minutes ago you wen hav won attitude adjustment. good now I no need lecture you.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 06/09/2008 09:47:23 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
She's now officially one katonk.
So stipulated counsel, what's your point?
(Translated into pidgin: "an den?")
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/09/2008 09:49:12 AM
Message:Kden, you jez askin fo it you guyz futtin aroun again. I gon leccha you.
I like cleah da ea. I no get some tatantara guyz ova hea wid real talent fo fut n fut around but please give peace a chance. We stay chaing to be betta yeah, we stay chaing to ak nice yeah lidat so wen we go out into da public or wen we go talk to each udda we can com nomo jez like da udda guyzs n no hav dem laff at you. We like talk pidgin lidat n makem legit, but hahd ah wen you guyz ak like keeds.
We haf to chai look at da bigga piccha and chai advance da cause fo erybody heah. Nobody gonna take you seriously wen all you do iz fut around. We stahted wid one noble goal by opening up da talk story to nclude da guyz who kenna talk pidgen or even talk lidat. Den we wen fut around, mistake numba one. Den we wen talk about small keed time in Hawaii n ice out da guyz who neva live hea, mistake numba two. Den we wen say sorry yeah we gone try do betta, we didn’t, mistake numba tree. Den someone cut one fut, big mistake, mistake numba fo. Den we wen go chancem on won noda tread about da bes concert an den, some one wen fut again and kill dat tread, mistake numba five. Den we com back heah n chai correctem n talk about food waz preddy good. Den someone who waz holdin his fut all week wen cut loose. Eh we ken oni make so many mistakes. I no like go aroun da resta my life holdin my nose. Mebbe we need won new mission statement, oa add too Duke's original statement -won goal, won direction. -Watchoo tink?
Kden gangi, we go chai again n nobody betta fut diz time oa I gonna flunk you.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 06/09/2008 10:01:33 AM
Message:In other words - "broken English" here is okay, "broken wind-ish" is not.
Kory's phone calls (as referenced by Duke) are a treat, and they started before YouTube. He plays you what he's been working on; first time I heard his original "Nupepa Slack Key" was over the phone. Momi was kind enough to work out the chords on paper, for those of us who can't figure that stuff out instinctively, and now it's one of my favorite pieces to play, on either `ukulele or bass guitar.
Us guys onny get good fun.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/09/2008 10:48:38 AM
Message:Eh boy no get wize oa I gonna sic Momi on you. Az not won tret az won treat.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/09/2008 12:31:56 PM
Message:Eh Ed I unnastan. Butchuno kenna jez loco out yeah. Oa kan you? I wanda wot Reid n Sarah n da udda regula folks tink so fa? Dey neva wen watch BugsBunny cahtoon n put togeda tantarah lidat. Eh n da BBDs stay dry waz yestadayz won.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/09/2008 12:54:52 PM
Message:Eh you no you can go fo daze yeah. Insai out back to front. Too good yeah.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/09/2008 2:12:45 PM
Message:Well, there can be several additional topics garnered out of all the 20 pages or so of stuff hrein. One could be about Kory and the swell music he plays on the phone for folks sometimes. When I was recuperating from the heart surgery, we received a surprise phone call one Sunday afternoon. Yep, it was our dear friend Kory, playing the nice slack key to cheer me up and we even let Paul listen in on the extension. We were very lucky we had just gotten another telephone and no longer had to climb the pole to answer the phone like on green acres. Climbing the pole is hahd in Cleveland in December, and even mo hard when one's poli/pu`uwai get sliced open. Ah, but the lovely feeling after Kory played was great. And what was even better is that he took the time out of his busy schedule in order to call us and play for us.
Potential topic number two continues with da kaukau. Always can talk about kaukau and I don't mind, even if I am back on the low sodium diet. Jay and Duke, it sure was good while it lasted. And now I've got Duke's recipe for gandule rice. It is for only a small amount of people. Just right for Paul and I. It only calls for 7 cups of uncooked rice. Small portions, yeah, Duke?
Potential subject number 3 -- laundry. Like outside line hanging to dry vs. dryer. More healthier for kill germs and viruses (virii??) because of sunlight. Smell good too. But hahd fo do in Cleveland, OH in the neighborhoods near the steel mills because it turns the sheets brown hanging on the line. Or your bebedees, unless you wear the spiderman kine. And you no want brown stains on your bebedees, even if it is only rust. Also, sunlight helps get rid of some stains. You can treat rust stains with lemon juice and salt and sunlight. Onliest thing, you need sunlight. Hard to get that in Cleveland, OH. But easy in the islands. Also can talk about iron vs: just take out of dryer or off the line and wear. Out of dryer is better than straight off the line because straight off the line, the wrinkles stay and the denims get hahd. But ironing is mo bettah. I learned in my days of inspecting uniforms for the military that crappy made garments can look good if they are pressed well, but a poorly pressed quality made garment looks like crap if not properly pressed. Also can talk about tap water vs. distilled water in the steam iron.
See all the fun stuff we could talk about?
Could talk obake stories. I love to hear obake stories and have read several books of obake stories. I almost thought of taking an obake story tour in Waikiki, but Paul no mo can walk very far without his knees hurting.
Can talk about what yo mamas did when it was your small keed time. Did she work outside the home or sty home and be Harriet Nelson or June Cleaver. Did yunz have chores to do when small kid time? I had chores that had to be done by time my ma came home from work. She got off work at the hospital at 3:30 and would take maybe 1/2 hour to get the bus home. So, I usually started my chores about 3:00. Had to make wikiwiki.
Can talk about what kine jobs yunz had during your younger days. My first job was at th neighborhood Jewish lady's bakery working for 50 cents and hour and free day old bread or buns. She never threw anything away, she would keep reducing the price on them hard old donuts until they were about1 cent and then the winos would come buy the one cent donuts. Then I worked at the neighborhood fruit store for 75 cents per hour, but ma made me quit when I brought home free bag of potatoes and too many cockaroaches insai da bag. Then I got one job at the grocery store, had to join the union. Got $3.35 per hour. I was rich! Bought all my own clothes for high school. Got to go downtown by myself and buy clothes by myself. Ma did not care for my selections and said they made me look like a hootchie mama (days of mini skirts). She made me take them back until everything met her approval. I remember dresses used to cost about $5.
What fragranges bring back your childhood memories. Not futs. I mean like coffee brewing in the early morning wake up time or bacon. Or a pot of beans boiling on the stove. Or fresh cut grass. Or leaves burning in the fall. Our freshly spread manure on the cornfields. Or the smell of a pole cat late at night. Or the smell of roasted cashews outside the Morrow Nut Store downtown. I found out later that they exhausted the store air to the outside so everyone waiting for the bus would smell it and have to come in to get even a dime or quarter worth of hot roasted cashews. Do you know there is absolutely no where in the Cleveland area where hot roasted cashews can be found. I have searched and searched and the nut companies tell me they no longer sell the nuts that way
Or, guys like Peter, Duke, Jay, bk808, dem what live Hawai`i can write and let us know what you are doing this day in the beautiful `aina.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/09/2008 2:13:03 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Menpachi Man
<<< I like cleah da ea. I no get some tatantara guyz ova hea wid real talent fo fut n fut around but please give peace a chance.>>
You right brah. K, damage control, I wen delete one/two mistakes.
k ... we go chai again.
Eh babooze, why you wen change da mastapiece, waz won epic. Not too many guyz can do dat you no.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 06/09/2008 2:21:54 PM
Message:Wah brah? hahaha, yu like em? I wen keep one copeh; almose neva but I wen read em again, even widout beeya, I crack me up. No can beleev I wen rite em in won aftanoon with sixpack beeya an guitah. Not too ofen I ged in da kine mood.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/09/2008 2:37:25 PM
Message:Glenn, azwhyhard yeah, fo won wile dea I tot waz jez gon have won bookbook wid me n chris. N yo inspiration da bes kine won 6 pak won gitah, but how many hands you get? How you type?
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 06/09/2008 2:49:23 PM
Message:Ok guava bruddah.. I go pos' em again. I dunno how fo put em back wea waz befoe, so da buggah steh ouda sequence now. Wen I no steh tank beeya, professah kine guyz, dey can intimidate me cuz I shy buggah. But ... I wen jus drink beeya tonite, an ... da professah call me babooze. I not babooze, jus booze. Oh , mo like beyabooze. Anyway hea da post.
My usual disclaimer: I post fo good fun so take my post wid grain of salt. Usually, I get one lolo smile on my face while tellin storehz. Fishaman all can tell storeh. Dey can make one hinalea or manini sound like dey wen catch big ulua. k-den, I in da mood to tell storeh. I steh away 1 week, an I see plenneh fut storeh. k-den , Momi, we not pau fut-storeh. I get historical one.
Disclaimer 2: This post is out of sequence and is a re-post.
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Dis time I get true storeh. Fo realz!
k-den ...
Once upon one time, long, long, long ago, way befo kine time, wen beeg island was small island. Pele still mosely steh holoholo on Maui, dat time, insai Haleakala. She wen staht da island dat was going come beeg island cuz she was getting bored. Had one place, way pass Kauai, up midway sai, useta have people liveeng. Had two good size islands. One waz named Fota'aina. Da odda one was Futanele. Yea, long time ago dey use mo "t" in da way dey tahk. In Fota'aina, hoh, dey could make beeg kine fut, fffaaaaAARRRAAAHHHrrrr, lidat. In Futanele, da guys had small kine fut, but mo worse, some peepo was futless. Eh no laff, true storeh. Wha? Hawaiian language no mo F? Yea, I kno but, had Samoan infuence long long long ago.
In Fota'aina, had one king. His name was Keeng Fut, no, not King Tut, you heard rite, Keeng Fut. You saying, "Haaahh? Wot kine Hawaiian name is Keeng Fut?" Okay, I tell you how. Long ago had one Pakeh guy dat was stranded on his boat cuz he nomo sense of direction an was drinkin too much. Da current and wind wen make em go all da way to Fota'aina. Azz why sound like Pakeh name! Got em from kung fu style, choi li fut. An dey liked da way he talked. An da Fota aina guys, all friendly peepos. Besides, he had Pakeh food !!! Evereh bodeh like Pakeh food. King Fut had one pretty daughtah, princess Fotagasalanahumuhumunukunukuapuaa Fut. K, you tinkin woa, wea da gas paht came in, az not Hawaiian. Well, had one English guy, wid da name Lucky Jack. He wen walk da plank cuz he wen chrai make mutanay. He was luckeh, and wen swim all da way to da island, almost 300 miles. He was good swimmah, julike porpus. Da shaks no boddah him cuz dat time dey oneh eat island food. At dat time, the English no was like Cook, dey no could spock da islands cuz long ago, had junk boat and instramants. Lucky Jack , he was some luckeh. He cood catch fish while swimming, eat da eyeballs an livah fo watah so he no ma'ke from thirst. Eh, you guyz nevah tink dat I goin tell storeh widout fishin storeh eh?. He use his puhi fo lure da fish an wen da fish come close he grab em befo dey bite his puhi cuz he had oneh one puhi fo bait. Waz mosly wahine kine fish. Some mahu kine. He was one real brave buggah! Eedah dat o he was luckeh and lolo. But white kine puhi was rare, an da fish was mosely curious so dey jus check em out befo biting. Az why he could catch em. I use puhi fo catch ulua, so mebbe he wen invent dat teknik. I dunno how he wen get da puhi. Mebbe one kane ulua wen bite one, an was tinking, eh dis not rite, and spit em back out. Da puhi was ma'ke and den wen float to da surface. Dis is one good theory I tink. Anyway, back to da storeh, he taut dem da word gas, cuz dem guys all cood make beeg kine fut. Now da princess, everybodeh respect her cuz she cood fut da coconut off da trees; no need climb. Wen dey wen take da canoes out to sea, she cood fut em all out to sea. In fack, dey made speshel lauhala sail juz fo dat. Neva need to waste energy paddling da canoe out. She cood even fut ulu off da trees. An mango, an guava, an lychee, oh chrai wait, neva had lychee yet. Da pakeh guy wen foget to pack em. But he brought char siu spice. Az how da islands had Pa'ke food. Now da queen, Futafula, her fut was so strong dat one day she wen fut herself all da way to da moon. So get dis strate, it is a lady in da moon, not da man in da moon. She wen come bolohed, cuz da sun wen singe her hair off. Az why dey mistake her fo one man. k ... so dat is why had oneh king an princess.
k, wot about da oddah island? Da oddah island had king too. His name was Keeng Futless. Eh no can help. He had pakeh and english influence too since da islands was close and all da peepo was friendly. Dey waz haahd workin peepo cuz no mo fut for push da canoe out. Nomo fut fo shake coconut off da tree so had to climb, an stuff lidat. So waz haahd work. At da end of da day, dey was all moah futless. Since dey was futless, dey had to be mo akamai. Instead of futting da watah into da taropatch, dey had to make irrigation ditch, stuff lidat. Da king had wife, Queen Nomofutalehua, and one boy, Futachiisai. Yu tinking, wot da hell is chiisai kine name. Well long long long time ago, had one emporor, KazeKozo, who was so good a samurai dat he wen rise up to rule da land. But den, deah was dis subject Tosh Togo who no like listen to anybodeh but himself. So dey banish him from Japan, den him and his broddah FujiFujiwara wen sail out to sea, an like the Pakeh guy, dey drink too much, got lost, yu know asian guys, drink lilo bit, den pass out. So da currents wen take em to Futanele. Da japanee guys was always saying, "heh, you guyz' futs is chiisai". But da word sound cute to da moddah, az why she name da boy Futachiisai. Da boy no like da name wen he waz grown up since he teenk he was relatively a big fut. But oneh SBD (silent but deadly) kine beeg fut. He eventually wen change his name to Kurtis da Bull Kilauea Iki. Eh, no laff-, even to dis day, Kilauea Iki making beeg kine lava futs. Oh, yea, fogot to mention, da king wen ma'ke earlier cuz he was too futless. One day wen he was fishin, he had one big ahi strike, about 500 lbs, yea, da fish waz beeg in dose daze. Da fish wen huli him from da boat an drag em down. But unlike da Fotaaina peepos, he cood not fut himself back to surface, so he wen drown. So dat is why oneh get queen an prince. Da Tosh Togo an Fuji guyz, dey wen staht fo make ectronics from lemon juice battery and wot liddo metal dey had on da boat. Make life mo easy for Fatanele peepo. No ax me, I dunno wea da lemon came from. Da joponee guyz had big swords too, so can cut coconut in half, one time, one stroke. No need peel em. All da peepo friendly so no need sword fo fite. Azz why dey use da sword oneh fo make food, tepanyaki style, azz rite brah, da whole coconut, whole ahi, whole puaa, an whole poi do.... eh neya mine. Point is, da buggas waz good tepanyaki guys. Da Fota aina peopo waz impressed since dey cood not fut da husk off da coconut. Oddah wize da whole coconut fly away. So had to do manual peel. Poun em on da rock kine peel.
One day, queen Nomofutalehua and king Fut wen get good idea. Dey was going unite da islands from da princess and prince marrying. Dey was going trade living secrets for make life moah easeh fo all peepos. Dey was going make one futless society into a futful society and tekless society into one hi tek society. Da princess and prince was both good looking so dey was attracted to each oddah. Evereh teeng was good. So dey wen make beeg wedding pahty. Da pahke guy make char sui pork fat, dat time dey no worry about cholestorol and stuff lidat. Da english guy wen go catch some ahi wid his puhi. Da princess wen fut plenny fruits off da trees. Da futless prince wen bring plenny poi from da irrigated patch. Da Japonee guys wen make tepanyaki. Had plenneh good food. Had music but neva yet had ukulele an slack key guitah. But da english guy waz awready tahkin about some kine music string instrament dat get puka. He was calling it pukalele, but somehow wen come to be ukalele (english style), den finally ukulele. Den some modern guys call em yukalele, or yoookulele or some oddah funneh kine way. No maddah, main teeng, yu know az da small kine guitah wid 4 strings.
Continuing wid da storeh, da princess wen move to Futanele, wea da prince was liveeng. Dey was all happy. She good cook, can even make pakeh food too. She dainty preddy girl. But still, she can hemo rock from da kalua pig pit, use da ti leaf for glove and put da rock in da 4 kornahs of da pig, an insai da opu. Tuff buggah even doe she look dainty. Kina like da titahs who dance nice hula with shaka kine figahs. Look real nice, sweet, and dainty but wen dey open da mout -- HOOAAH ! Dey can tahk like one teedah an yell: "WHA BRAH, wachu looking at? I owe you moneh? I going get my broddah fo broke yo az. Wha bra? You still looking? Neya mine my broddah, I going broke yo az myself!" Lidat kine stuff. But no, she waz tryin fo be quiet kine tuff. She was shy so she neva fut coconut off da tree or da canoe out da ocean. She waz tryin fo hole em as long as she could. Den one day no can control. She wen fut insai da hale and waz so strong, da hale wen blow away. Hoh, prince Kilauea, hees eye wen come beeg like giant squid. Yea, he call himself Kilauea now. Yu know young guyz, dey tink dey tuffa den dey actually is. He heard from Pele dat she going make big fut volcano called Kilauea Iki. Az why he call himself dat. But anyway, once a week, da hale blow away cuz she steh try hole em all da time. Prince Kilauea was all depressed. You know, he was not da kine, boss-erreh-bodeh-kine prince. He do stuff himself if he can. He was good guy even doe he tink he get Kilauea Iki kine fut. Nice heart dis boy had. An den, moah worse, wen dey steh make lomilomi stuff, she fut em up to da seeling. Anden one time she wen blow all da leaf off da taro plants. He was getting desparate and was going tell her, dis no going work. But, hoh, he love her so much dat he no cood.
Den one day, errehbodeh saw one funneh kine boat out da ocean. Look like catamaran wid one hale on top. Da boat wen float to shore from da currents. Dey saw one guy half dead who barely lift his head up and said," Ip u gib me watah, I gib u my hale on da boat. I get kalamanseh an bagaong too, ip u like. I get paiting cheekeen too, almose ma'ke but mebbe can rebibe". So dey geeve em watah. He was all happy dat he get watah. Dey wen give him some poi and dry opelu too. Aftah he came alive, he was so grateful he gave da prince his bamboo hale on da makeshiff catamaran. Was all bamboo. Prince Kilauea's eye wen come big. He akamai so hees brainz was going. He teenkeeng dat he can make reinforced bamboo hale fo heem and his wife. So he wen make one reinforced bamboo hale, an den he wen make reinforced bed with low bed seeling so he no fly to da hale seeling wen she fut. Aftah dat, he no need make hale evereh oddah week an was happy cuz den he can smoke pilipine paka an relax. Preddy soon dey wen make couple a small futs who grew up to be regular futs. An den da paiting cheeken wen come alive again, an get moah plenneh, so dey could eat chicken long rice and chicken adobo, and chicken palia, an chicken luau, an chicken feet. All da prince an princess' decendents were regulah futs. Not supah futs or small futs, or futless. And dat is how we all became normal fut peepo. But to dis day, get beeg fut peepo from futa-aina like Doctah Petah, Duke and Guava. And I remain a small fut from futanele. Momi, she ack like one small fut too. But I no bettah, sometime small fut wahine, dey jalike dynomite, kinda like da titahs I was tahking about.
True Storeh!!!
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/09/2008 3:03:03 PM
Message:used to listen Dinah Washington's version at A1 Bakery by A'ala paka when I was like 12 yrs old and on da loose.
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Eh noeau,I once heard dat aala park was da place to be for eat.Was said to be filled with all kine different food stalls,all day kine of festival.Kinda way back days,but what you rememba dose days?Da only reason I ask is dat you once said you hung around mayor wrights back in da fifties.Before I forget,dat video where you playing and singing,den get one loud noise in da back,brah me and my youngest was rollin,da mo I play em back,da mo us guys stay rollin.I nevah catch em da first time das why.Aloha
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/09/2008 3:06:15 PM
Message:You did good Menpachi Man. You did good. I neva like make you cry lidat, your story still count. N I neva wen call you won babooze babooze, get diffrence you no. Eh go take a couple mo hits fo da braddas befo you paz out. You won okay kinda guy.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/09/2008 3:28:05 PM
Message:Kden, but I not won docta lidat, aldo I do make da slack key mobetta. Az Duke wen putem to me da udda day "you jez won Moke wid won edumacation. " Yeah so I get da etnomusicology education from UH n East Wast Santa n you can tal I git da BS degree from Colorado. But wot I no n teach dey don't teach in school, dat iz unless you go to my school UH Manoa n I teach you lidat eh. But den I waz talkin to Cyril n he iz teachin down UH Hilo. So UH get da rite guyz fo teach n iz gonna soun HAWAIIAN reel HAWAIIAN.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/09/2008 3:31:15 PM
Message:Okayden. We wen bust 300 replies. Watchout Seattle Experiment we comin on strong n we get plany gaz in da tank.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/09/2008 4:33:26 PM
Message:Kden, you guyz go FPP jez make sua da FBI no follo you. But stay in contac.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/09/2008 5:36:41 PM
Message:Eh, Ed. Did da family have one Long John Silva or Golden Silva?
Mempachi Man, when da movie coming out? You wen; sell da rights yet or what? Anyt'ing foa sell popcorn.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/09/2008 5:36:52 PM
Message:Glenn you dirty ol buggah. Why you say you put that puhi thing for me? I am prim and proper, I'll have you know.
Right Duke and Jay? Right Paul? Right Braddah Ed?
Glenn - peepo goin tink I got one fickashun on da puhi. Remember dis puhi? Dis one giant beeg puhi from Big Island. Glenn you eva get one dis beeg? Or all da puhi you see chiisai? http://www.hawaiifishingnews.com/records_d.cfm?ID=111
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/09/2008 5:42:07 PM
Message:Eh Wanda we neva fogetchoo. But we stay drownin ovah hea. I wen make won mistake n call Menpachi Man won babooze, but I neva wen calim won babooze babooze. Da braddah stay tankin n we hadda go savem lidat. Waz frenly fire anden.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/09/2008 5:45:50 PM
Message:Long as Glenn drinkin beeyah, axe him fo tell obake storeh from Big Island.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/09/2008 5:48:47 PM
Message:Besides, Glenn one smaht guy, all da kine phD stuffs. An can do all da kine martial arts kine stuff kicking way high in da ayah and one tigah form, yeah? In good shape for old fut. Ooops. Didn't mean fo use dat word. E kala mai.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/10/2008 03:03:46 AM
Message:Dat hunred-fifty poun puhu da buggah wen speah- fo what? He goine kaukau? Puhi kea stay ono, but da morey junk.I tink he jus like make da puhi cause stay nui- mebbe get one pitcha in da Hawai'i Fishing News. Den goine chuck um in da bay.
Das jus sad. One beautiful animal, make fo noting. Wen I see da buggahs wi one record in da Fishing News, I like tro um in jail already. Da i'a nui stay make all da keiki. Big ones, leave um fo breed. Small kine, leave um fo grow. In between kine, das da one. Grine um!
Chris
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/10/2008 07:17:53 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Dass da kine stuffs I raddah be thinking about when dey finally lock me up in da home fo da mentally guitarded.
Eh Braddah wotchoo mean wen dey lock you up in da home fo da mentally guitarded? You wen look aroun lately? You already dea.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/10/2008 09:30:51 AM
Message:I jez wen drop my dawda lidat at werk n I com bac to dis. Sheesh!
Touche (eh how you make dat funny e?), Eh you one sly bugga you? I no I wen make won rude comment anden you wen invite yourself ova? Guess what? No way Jose – chai wait, I gotta be mo poilitically correc – What you sed ? Ed. Hahh?? My wife goin say eh get enuff crazy guyz ova hea. Anden Kaneohe girl she gonna kick my azz up and down da road. Naddas, no way brudda, been dey done dat. Da pain, da pain, da pain… eh go chai look get da pain flying ova da house to K-Bay.
Eh I gotta go dentis dis morning. I com to da pot in life wea I stahting fo get niho`ole. You no I comin jez like Popeye, wen I eat da soup, da soup leak outta da space wea da toot used to be on da bottom side yeah. Gotta eat da soup twice az fas now. Gotta go town. Latahs.
Reply author: Mika ele
Replied on: 06/10/2008 11:52:54 AM
Message:Youz guys one funny buggas!
Reply author: Mika ele
Replied on: 06/10/2008 11:54:37 AM
Message:Hey Peta!
Wen ken I ax you fo teach me Ulili'E?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/10/2008 11:59:20 AM
Message:Hacome you Hawai`i guyz, you manly men guyz, pride yosef bout cookin da ono grinz? Is that anthropoligical holdover from da kapu dayz? I nava seed no Hawaiian women brag about cookin kaukau. Only me and Nani talk about cookin. Oh, yeah lilabit Momi bout chocolate haupia. Duke wot yo daudahs cook? Jay wot Rizalina cook? Peter, how bout yo wife? Or in Hawai`i do only da men cook? Got Sam Choy. Got Roy Yamaguchi. Got Chai, etc. Don't see no Hawaiian Paula Deene or Cat Cora or even Julia Child or Rachael Ray. Hacome? I think must be some Hawaiian ethnic thing.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/10/2008 12:05:44 PM
Message:Why you comin ova hea? Chai wait ah. I gotta check out Ed. He iz mo sharp den I tot. Bruddah get moves. But I wazn’t bon yestaday. I wen recognotis his WARCA (for da uninitiated -- Wize Azz Remahk Counta Ansa). It waz close dis moning I tal you, bud I took lesson from da Greatest yeah, Ali. I no how fo weave like won spidah n duck like won duck.
Anyway I can but we just got to figure out the logistics. Send me an email.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/10/2008 12:08:00 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
Hacome you Hawai`i guyz, you manly men guyz, pride yosef bout cookin da ono grinz? Is that anthropoligical holdover from da kapu dayz? I nava seed no Hawaiian women brag about cookin kaukau. Only me and Nani talk about cookin. Oh, yeah lilabit Momi bout chocolate haupia. Duke wot yo daudahs cook? Jay wot Rizalina cook? Peter, how bout yo wife? Or in Hawai`i do only da men cook? Got Sam Choy. Got Roy Yamaguchi. Got Chai, etc. Don't see no Hawaiian Paula Deene or Cat Cora or even Julia Child or Rachael Ray. Hacome? I think must be some Hawaiian ethnic thing.
Wanda,
Not won hangova from da ol daze. We like eat good.
Reply author: hapuna
Replied on: 06/10/2008 2:29:35 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Medeirosquote:
Originally posted by wcerto
Hacome you Hawai`i guyz, you manly men guyz, pride yosef bout cookin da ono grinz? Is that anthropoligical holdover from da kapu dayz? I nava seed no Hawaiian women brag about cookin kaukau. Only me and Nani talk about cookin. Oh, yeah lilabit Momi bout chocolate haupia. Duke wot yo daudahs cook? Jay wot Rizalina cook? Peter, how bout yo wife? Or in Hawai`i do only da men cook? Got Sam Choy. Got Roy Yamaguchi. Got Chai, etc. Don't see no Hawaiian Paula Deene or Cat Cora or even Julia Child or Rachael Ray. Hacome? I think must be some Hawaiian ethnic thing.
Wanda,
Not won hangova from da ol daze. We like eat good.
Plus don't forget often!
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/10/2008 3:37:37 PM
Message:Eh, Wanda! You know dat not errybody get 20/20 vision. Same t'ing li'dat: not errybody get 20/20 tas'ebuds! While my whole family stay eating, dey stay talking about what dey stay goin' cook da nex' time. We get family doings at my cousin's house, errybody wen' bring appetiza, den she wen' cook roast beef (ya, us guys get beef, no ack! - jus' get in line!) an' turkey. I wen' tell my cousin, "Eh, Cuz, get too much. We get full jus' on da appetizas an' desserts!" Nex' time was da same only get roast beef, turkey and one ham. Choke desserts, an' get bratwrst on da grill! Not to mention pickled herring, lefse (Scandihoovian potato tortilla packed wit' butter an' sugar--ono wit' coffee) an li'dat. US GUYS GET 20/20 TAS'EBUDS! 'Azz why we need da aprons, foa catch da drippings!
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/11/2008 03:58:53 AM
Message:I kno couple wahine can cook, but mos stay kane, is true. When I stay work, my wife, she get hungry, she call me an say is time fo come home, make me dinner. She wen foget how fo boil watah for her tea- if I no make um, she drink Pepsi. If I no stay aroun, an no moa snack kine food in da hale, she goine ordah out.
Befoa time, used to know how fo make some kine stuff- microwave one chicken breast wi some frozen corn o somting. But aftah ten yeah wi me, she wen foget how.
Long time befoa, da kane cook fo da kane, an da wahine cook fo da wahine- so no kine cultural reason fo wahine no kno how fo cook. Jus li my wife, if da kane like cook, den no need, yes? So no boddah. Me, I like um da way I like um, so I make um. Den eat out o wi my frens fo get new idea.
Corse, my wife, she like um da way she like um too. She ordah jus like in one resturaunt- "I like dis, an put in dis and dat, and no do dis..." Me, I stay akamai, so I make um jes lidat fo her, and if I like somting different, I make um how I like um fo me.
"An garans balbarans if you give one braddah one recipe it aint gonna stand pat,"
Das anotah ting dive my wife lolo- I nevah goine make da same ting two time da same way. Every time I goine cook goine be one experiment. An measuring cup? I no moa! I jes eyeball um. Ho, my muddah in law she like cry when I wen make da wedding cake wi no moa recipie, no moa measuring cup, an no moa plan fo decorate, but da buggah stay moa ono (an moa beautiful) den any wedding cake she eveah when eat- ten layahs if you count careful, an every layah stay different kine...
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/11/2008 06:36:37 AM
Message:Today no mo clouds ova da Koolau n nomo win, da sun stay comin up ova da bay, da wada look like won mirror, get zero tide but da tide stay comin in, n da surf is 3 to 5 in town. Gotta go Windward mall, Macy’s get won big Kamehameha day sale my wife wen clip da coupons n we goin be poorer by da end a da day but it looks like itz gonna be one nada good day in Hawaii Nei. Watchoo guyz doin?
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 06/11/2008 06:42:25 AM
Message:
quote:When pau hana, ono grinz with a jazz pianist/former business partner that I haven't seen in about six years (cause he moved from Seattle to Fairbanks).
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
Watchoo guyz doin?
Reply author: kihoalukid
Replied on: 06/11/2008 06:58:34 AM
Message:Looks like i drew the short straw, gotta make 2 trips to the landfill, then lay some dirt and grass seed, i need a vacation (from my vacation
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/11/2008 07:34:32 AM
Message:Az long az you jez fixating bradda. I no looks reel good, but daz won heartattack waitin fo happen. Oh, gotta go longs now.
Reply author: hapuna
Replied on: 06/11/2008 07:44:03 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
I been fixating on da image below all morning...*sigh*
Eh before wcerto gets in here let me just say...Heart Attack Waiting to happen
Ever notice that Hawaiians don't waste time with fruits and veggies for da main meal. I mean the only thing one could construe as a veggie here is just there to hold da meat!!!
Eh Peter we just had 1 foot of snow in da mountains. Like neva happen in last hundred yeas! Den when follow da heavy winds knocking ertyting down. Just found this article in Seattle Times "Seattle weather colder than Siberia!" http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004470662_webweather11m.html?syndication=rss
Just another day in paradise brah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/11/2008 08:26:46 AM
Message:OK, I won't preach about the one heart attack waiting to happen. Jus like runnin' cement down the sewer pipes. It will work for a while, but pretty soon gonna get clogged up. Or one piece that cement that stayed on the wall of the pipes gonna break loose and go floating around until it gets stuck in one smaller pipe. But no mattah, you gonna have smile on your face. I had one old boss who folled around on his wife and died in the throes of passion. Had one smile on his face, I bet, but was still dead as a door knob. Make is make. Pau is pau.
Anyhow, you were only thinking about the grinz; only wishing & hopiing. No harm in that.
Peter, today, 96 degree tems are gone; moderate temps today, low 80's. No humidity to speak of. I got up to 2.7 mph on the treadmill ad cardiac rehab (to the tune of Sweet Home Alabama).
When I got the guys to play Hawaiian CDs for the rehab, all the guys said the music was so gentle and peaceful, want to lay down in lounge chair sipping maitais. What Hawaiian music can I take to rehab that will get the heart pumping and good beat for exercising to? No kine Jawaiian.
Reply author: Mika ele
Replied on: 06/11/2008 12:57:53 PM
Message:eh bra!
one kine SunDago day! Onny fo US O-pen.
oooowhhhaaa . . . trafik roun Torrey Pines one bustaloose lolo! No matta, I stay udda side uh town. Surf 3-5 feet, glassy, watuh temp get plenny wam -- das almosses 68. whooo . . . da boyz waz dancin wit no rubbah suits dis moning!
Gotta git to da hale n bust out da kika fo doo betta at ki ho'alu open mik -- bin goin same ol mele. good ting da buggahs wen come lissen foget fum las week!
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/11/2008 6:16:46 PM
Message:"Surf 3-5 feet, glassy, watuh temp get plenny wam -- das almosses 68."
Oh, I goine make in watah lidat!
But me, I nevah no- one buggah on da mainlan say 3-5 feet, I stay wondah is da buggahs 3-5, oa only stay 1-3? Cause where I stay from, no maddah dat NOAA say one tree foot wave really one six footer- we goine say tree foot wen da buggah just ovah head kine, everyboddy no six footahs stay double ovahhead!
Fo make um standard, wave hight got to be measured by how high da top of da swell stay ovah da tide level. If goine measure da wave jus before goine break, da bottom make da wave biggah one place, smaller some oddah place- any kine size, no standard at all! Das why we goine measure back side, swell hight; den we make um a little smaller cause we no scaid. An we no kea what NOAA like tell us fo do, da buggahs no surf anyway an if dey do, dey wen learn um from us and mo bettah dey use da system of da masters, not some junk system no make no mo sense!
So what, get da kine tree footers, ovah head high, to five footahs, almos double ovah head- oa onli get mebbe chin high, two foot sets?
But hey, glassy soun ono!
Chris
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/11/2008 6:46:35 PM
Message:Da heat is still on, da extra blanket stay on da bed. Cold in Seattle, wet too. Us guys no mo' summer! 6" fresh snow in da passes. Good t'ing we can kanikapila insai!
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 06/11/2008 7:32:28 PM
Message:Eh, Mempachi Man, you guys okay out dea o wat? Between da floods an da tornados, brah, aisus. I raddah have da cold out hea dan da wet out dea (an we stay planny wet, yah, Kory?) We goin' have to tie you down so you no float away oa tie you up so you no blow away.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/12/2008 01:17:14 AM
Message:Menpachi - you playing dat new lektrik geetah? You playing Pachelbel's Canon or Punahele?
You probably gonna have one headache at work today.
Hey, I hope dem casinos over there did not get all flooded. Or actually, maybe I no care, since they took all my $$$. And I hope Rock Island is still an island.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/12/2008 02:10:40 AM
Message:Mika ele: "Surf 3-5 feet, glassy, watuh temp get plenny wam -- das almosses 68."
ypochris: "Oh, I goine make in watah lidat!"
Menpachi Man: "Wha brah? 3-5 ft from da back, No can hando? Pantehz."
Braddah, tree-five foot backside, das da bomb! 6-8 I small kine nervous cause I not so young any more, but I like um cause onleh get couple guys out,cleah out da grommets. 10-12 I only wen couple times cause I like bodysurf an stay hard fo get da head tru da tick foam, get air. But mean, da take off down one 25 foot face!
Is da 68 degree watah goine make me make!
Chris
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/12/2008 06:33:31 AM
Message:Like da song "I've become my Dad"!
Ed, can use yoa temporal advantage to say "I told you so!" wit' minah reprocussions. As da snot nose keeds 'come olda, dey goin' remembah da trut' of yoa words an' marvel at da wisdom!
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 06/12/2008 10:46:07 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
(I can jahs hear it now: "Assumes facts not in evidence, counsel.")
You sed um so I no have to!
(I assuming I da snot nose keed.)
Reply author: Mika ele
Replied on: 06/12/2008 1:19:45 PM
Message:K-Den! Watah waz 68 an almosses ovah hed - we callem 3-5 feet. I small kine buggah (lessen 6 feet) ony unnah-tall fo my weight. My Irish mother injected da showt jeans.
Wen back las nite and waz glassy again. But hi tide make sho break an allah yungbuks out deah making lossa splashin. I go fo walk up and down alla laddahs onna cliffs --> for make my okole less okole!
All Pau. Goin bussout da uke foa kanikapila wit Unko Bill Tapia - he wun brite potagee buggah fo a hunnu yea ole!
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/12/2008 1:54:56 PM
Message:"Eh Chris, howzit brah, I was jahs wondering if you been get all your affairs in ordah lately."
You no foa how long pepo when ask me dat? Sometime I tink pepo tink I one lolo. Jus tryin fo have one good time. Neva wen hurt nobody.
(Corse, plenny pellah wen hurt demself wen de like try follow me- but no was my fault, hea? I nevah tellum fo chargum! Well, mebee couple-tree times I did. Oa couple-tree dozen, whatevahs. I nevah put one gun to da po'o. Jus wen say I going- you like come, come...)
ypo
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/12/2008 2:38:52 PM
Message:Chris - YOU made that cake? It is gorgeous (gorgeous pic anyhow, two beautiful folks).
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/12/2008 3:40:55 PM
Message:Wanda-
Jus tryin fo make da point dat da kane rased in Hawai'i no how fo cook- an no need no mo resapi...
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/13/2008 01:20:47 AM
Message:Don't dem pilipine guyz hang dea paka? In W. Va., whea my tutukane wen grow paka for kala, he have one barn wit tin roof, but da walls, they got pukas between da logs so aya can sirkoolate. In late summahtime, you hang da paka fo 2-3 months. Den you strip da paka. Dat mean you pull da haff leafs off da middo rib den huli dem roun an poke dem tru da middo with da shahp end da paka stalk. Den you hang em in da bahn for nudda while til spring time sunshine comes. Den you sell da paka.
My dear, departed, saiintly moddah, she usta roll seegahs in Huntington, W.Va. when she wen graduate high skoo. I remembah she said one guy get his fingah chop off and it get rolled up in some poor sap's seegah. Good reason fo not smokin, yeah? I bet dat one hauna.
Actually, the smell of a seegah go make my tummy hulihuli. Maybe curing get rid da ammonia smell but no get rid da kukae smell.
Dis one paka barn befo paka have been stripped. Kinda like taking middo rib outta ti leaf.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/13/2008 03:28:55 AM
Message:My plenny old kine pilipino fren, he stay grow his own paka. He jus hang um on one string couple months, obah da lanai. Always get plenny string hanging.
Ebry day he go smoke da paka, inu lille bit whisky- oa some plenny sometimes. An da buggah stay mo den 114 las time I see him, wen he wen move up top from Waipi'o- I no no how ol da pellah stay, but he "da ol man in da swamp" wen my fren one small kid kine, and "da ol man in da swamp" still stay yet when my fren wen make at 86 yeah ol.
Anyway, jes go fo sho paka an whisky ebry day no goine make you fo shoa. Some buggahs stay tink is da radioactive isotopes of phosphorus in the chemical fertilizer (superphosphate)used in commercial tobacco production dat when cause da cansah. My pilipino fren when grow his own, organic kine, so mebbe das why stay healty so long.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/14/2008 07:53:56 AM
Message:Today is gonna be won nodda good day. Get zero tide, no mo wind, no mo vog, da sky is blue and town side has been pumping all week. All da weda guyz on da TV nooze surfas so dey playin da size down by a couple tree feet. Dis nex ting goin sound like won old song about Fait Yanagi, butchoono yestaday -- Point Panic waz ten feet and glassy.
Have won good day!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/14/2008 08:32:48 AM
Message:Tell Fait Yanagi you love her, yeah?
In Cleveland today is now starting to get lilabit sun at 2:20 in the p.m. Was cloudy and rainy all morning, and got cooler, so that air cond. did not even kick on yet. This is a pretty good time of the year in Ohio. Before it gets too hot and droughts come. Everything is green, flowers are blooming nicely, everyone has hanging baskets of flowers on their porches, birdies got a nest outside the bathroom window with a baby in it. And best of all -- it is strawberry season! Ain't nothing like strawberries picked fresh and ripe. I bought three quarts yesterday and just might go back and buy a whole flat and freeze them for later in the year. Around here, the most common type are the June bearing varieties. Also, soon, should be cherry season. Last year cherries were between $5-$7 per lb. Hope price is better this year. And then, maybe a month-6 weeks from now, fresh local corn! Even Bobby Ingano said Ohio corn is the best. And then tomatoes! Woo-hoo. Store bought tomatoes are an abomination, plus now people are getting salmonella from tomatoes. More better to grow your own then you know where they came from and what they have been treated with.
Hey - and to all you faddahs out there - Happy Faddah's Day! You guys, when you made us gals into mamas, you gave us some of the happiest times of our lives. Some of the most exasperating, too. And if any of you have not yet raised teenage children, you just wait. Just you wait.
How many of you guys are the soft touch for your kids and mama is the disciplinarian? Or are you the "Wait til your father gets home" kinda guys?
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 06/14/2008 12:20:34 PM
Message:Hey! I finally got to the end of all these posts. I don't think I can read as fast as yun's write.
Paul
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/14/2008 2:36:12 PM
Message:"How many of you guys are the soft touch for your kids...?"
I nevah goine admit noting. Cept fo say wen my firs wahine wen leave da keiki like fo stay wi me. An two ob da tree I no mo da bilogical kine faddah. But I wen raise um an dey turn out real good kine, so mo bettah no be harsh. No need- jus love um plenny, ebryting goine be fine...
Chris
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/15/2008 08:48:10 AM
Message:We wen' jam at Kona Kitchen foa breakfas' yestaday. Baritone, Falsetto2002, Slipry1, Retro, Momi, Noeau, Rich an' Jay, & Norm (T'reeWeeks), good fun.
FINALLY we got some sun! Mark Twain once said that the warmest winter he ever spent was a summer on Puget Sound. Good thing that music isn't dependant on the weather!
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/15/2008 3:15:52 PM
Message:Ho, Renton, was unreal!
Eh, Ed. Us guys only jam on da 2nd Sattaday of da mont' at Kona Kitchen. I know dat da "NW Hawai'i Times" folks was deah, 'cause Retro, Momi and me wen' play "Nupepa Slack Key" foa dem guys.
Yuji no kea us guys jam deah, we eat plenny!
I know dat Herb, Norm, Gary an' me had da "Fried Rice an' Eggs", I wen' fo'get what da res' wen' kaukau. Ono grinds an' friends along wit' music, not bad. Eh, Ed-- if you wen' leave Tri-Cities about 630AM, you could make'm!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/15/2008 3:44:32 PM
Message:Menpachi - I know da Fait Yanagi mele. I also posted a while back a link to a you tube video of Andy Bumatai singing the song. It was hilarious. If anybody wants, send me e-mail and I'll send you the link or just go on You Tube and look for Andy Bumatai, but I no remembah which show.
I used to eat ground hog in the olden days. Dad would trap them (which was horribly cruel) or we kids would make a deadfall out of a rock, a stick, some string and an apple. We'd wait for the ground hog to come and when his head was under the rock getting the apple, we would jerk the string tied to the stick, the propped up rock would fall and smash the ground hog's head. I cannot believe I ever did such a dastardly thing. The way they would cook the ground hog was to stew it, usually long, slow cooking with plenty gravy. I think they soaked it in salt water for a goodly while first. Rabbit and squirrel are both good. Rabbit, cannot shoot until frost because get warbles, some weird worms or something that get in da meet and can then get in your body. Icky. I do not know anyone who ever got warbles, but we were always warned about them. I have no idea what they really are r what they look like. Squirrels, takes a mess of them to cook and get any kine meat. They are tough little buggahs, too. More moist, slow cooking required. Also fo kill da smell on game kine, you must, must, must remove the white membrane that covers each muscle. That's what gives the gamey taste. And always soak in salt water before cooking. I have eaten frog legs, even cooked them at home, but it grosses me out when the legs move when you fry them. Its pretty creepy.
Kory sounds like you guys just have good fun! I liked seeing you Oddah Guyz on the You Tube. Especially like Retro singing about ssssh - no make noise. It is only fittin' that he sing a Momi song! He has his own lei Momi.
And Glenn -- I've been telling Jesse that he needs to make a CD, like every time I find one of his vids on you tube. You are absolutely right his singing has mana. That's what I've been saying.
Jesse - look, Brah, your public is clamoring!
Glenn -- can call on the phone and can jam wit Paul. Or get zoom H2 and you guys can e-mail music back and forth. He wants folks for kani with also, since he had such a great time with Duke and Jay and all the stray kids he picked up all over Waikiki. He also plays along with you tube stuff sometimes.
But for sure if you got horses, ground hogs are bad. Dem horsies going to break their dinky skinny little legs.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/16/2008 12:47:08 AM
Message:Gee, Glenn - I love it when you talk hillbilly pidgin.
Do not shoot a rabbit or squirrel or groundhog with a shotgun. You'll be picking shot out of your dinner for hours.
I think a .22 would be best. Don't want the buggah to explode into thin air. One of the deers Paul got one year, he had the hide tanned. The hole in the skin where he shot it looks like he shot it with a howitzer. I think he used either a slug in his shotgun or maybe used his .50 cal black power rifle. Anyhow, whatever it was, the poor deer had no chance.
I small kid time, I used to eat all the game. In W. Va., sometimes if you wanted meat, that was the only way. Small kid time, Inever thought anything of it. Nowadays, I could not even stomach the thought of eating those poor little critters, all cute and fluffy and schmoofy.
Frogs I do not want because I remember pithing frogs in college biology class. And we also had to dissect fetal pigs. Then I went dining hall for lunch and they had pork chops. Almost barfed. Turned vegetarian for a time. At Kent State maybe shoulda protested using critters in bio lab instead of burning down the ROTC building.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/16/2008 01:51:27 AM
Message:Small kid time only meat we wen get was wha we wen catch, too. Plenny deah, plenny jackrabbit- an plenny wha my local frens call "slow elk" but we wen call "white man's deer", but onleh wen nomoa fo eat. Nebbah boddah wi license, season, an stuff lidat- white man's rules no count fo hungry indian. But we wen use da .22 fo hunt cause mo quiet. But mo easy was jus check da make one on da side of da road- if da buggah still warm, into da trunk. I tink get biggah trunk back den.
My uncle, he like help um along a liddle bit- he wen put one madrone bumpah on da van, den go out dusk time when get plenny deah on da road an run um ovah. Nuddah ting we wen do when stay in da desert- we go out dusk time, scare da jackrabbit so da buggah jump into da fence, break da neck. Den trow um into one gallon jar wid da potato an onion, seasoning lidat. Den put da jar in da hot spring- byembye, couple hoahs da buggah stay tendah and so ono...
Chris
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/16/2008 06:06:07 AM
Message:Aloha you guyz from us guyz in da aloha state.
Anden?
What you guyz wen do dis weekend besides talling us all how you wen kill anden eat all da squirl, da groun hog, da dea, da pig, da kau, da frog? Would you kea to anliten us samoa?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/16/2008 06:28:42 AM
Message:Eh Brah, I reel ni`ele but dey no call dat won varmitzvah? Oa did I miss sometin wid foa legs you neva eat yet?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/16/2008 07:05:19 AM
Message:Well, Peter, I did not kill any varmintz this weekend. I cleaned house and did lots of printing pictures and scrapbooking and card making. I made some good scrapbook pages of my hanai `ohana ovah dea O`ahu.. Made way nice page of Jay's wife and really cute of baby Cheyenne the new `ukulele player. Den Sunday, I made jambalaya for Paul for faddah's day. I asked if he wanted a barbecue or go to a restaurant or what, and he wanted my jambalaya mo bettah and I made butter mochi for dessert with mochiko flour I bought at Foodland on Kuhio in Waikiki. It came way mo bettah than last time. This flour was different than the other Ihad from the health food store. Must not have been the right stuff. This mochi had the chewy kine texture and is very good.
Then we went to Paul's ma's house and ate cheescake for fadders day which my sister-in-law made for the dads. And we showed off more pictures of Hawaii and some scrapbook pages of Hawaii and talked about Jay and Duke and Bla & Kathleen dem, and about how this was the best vacation we ever, ever, ever had. And we talked about what aloha really is. And we talked about Paul's gig on Friday night with the hula hui.
Oh, and I washed windows.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 06/16/2008 07:54:22 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
varmitzvah?
Is dat one coming-of-age pahty wea da celebrant gotta eat someting shtrange? No have to have foa legs - mebbe snake oa eel oa someting li'dat.
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 06/16/2008 09:17:01 AM
Message:I brought home eel sushi from the lady at the grocery one time, and Ms. Wanda wouldn't even try it, eventhough it was all cooked sushi. So I ate all of 'em. And they was good, too. But I'll eat nearly anything that don't escape first. 'Cept maybe bugs.
Paul
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/16/2008 09:44:20 AM
Message:I goine try any kine- I no shame! Any kine- foah leg, two leg, no leg... Foah leg kine li' da iguana stay ono, an da crocodile tail (saltys from Australia) waz da bes I evah wen grine. Bu da rattlesnake almos as ono- no need legs...
Jus tink- Hawai'i guys like grine all kine funny stuff li da opihi an da wana, namako, pupu shell, puhi kea, limu- all kine! Oa wi da pilipino frens goine grine chicken gut, cockscomb, pig blood, oa da Hawaiian tradition, kalua dog. Da nipponese goine put rotten soy beans, wheat, and rice (miso and tamari) on everiting, an even Micky D's goine put mouldy cow lactations on da burgah- we call um cheese. So fo why stay shame fo try termite larva (creamy), deep fried locust (crunchy), or earthworms (jus li da hamburgah!)?
Me, I goine try any kine, an if I like um, I like um- ainokea if soun strange.
Chris
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/16/2008 1:08:48 PM
Message:GS, erytime you go fo eat one sausage you grindn na'au... you nevah make one sausage?
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/16/2008 1:29:41 PM
Message:I tink for sausage lot of times, no use natural casings anymore. I know Paul bought some real casings though, when he wen make his venison sausage some time back. I think he made like a summer sausage outta the deer. Now, I think they just grind 'em us and do not put anything into casings, too much work I guess.
Remember the days when you had to peel da casing off da bologna and slice your own bologna. It came in one chunk. I was embarrassed to take sandwich to school for lunch cause they would see how thick my bologna sandwich and know we couldn't afford the presliced kine and would laugh at the hillbilly girl.
One trip to O`ahu, our tour guide told us about going spear fishing for lobstah allatime when he was young. He and some friends camped out da beach for a good while in da summah. Catch lobstah every day. Every day eat lobstah. Get tired of it. Take it to a little japanese grocery in Hale`iwa and trade lobstah for sliced bologna and wonder bread.
Me, I would eat lobstah every day! Not get tired of it, I don't think.
But I am with Braddah Ed when it comes to eating innards and offal. Not for me. No organ meats. I will never forget in "Dances with Wolves" when they gave him the warm, steaming tatanka liver to eat. Yuck!
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/16/2008 2:31:13 PM
Message:Man vs. Wild one BS show- da buggah try eat all kine stuff no can, ak like some ono. Allatime eating green, nasty kine stuff- chocolate pods da size of one guava, den ak like stay sooo ono! Raw fish, can- larvae too, bu when da buggah ak like he eating someting inedible or poisonous, das junk kine!
Noddah ting- allatime da buggah get one ting he nevah had befoa- da watah bottle suddenly full again, lidat. I tink da camara crew get plenny kine supply and stay give um to him. Me an da wahine, we know how- das why we stay like watch da show an make fun. Cause you drop "Bear" in da middle of my property, I tink you nevah goine see him again. Jus try fo follow da stream to na kai- firs time he jump da wailele (like he do ebery show)da buggah stuck or make.
Good fun, dough- plenny laffs!
Chris
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/17/2008 02:38:34 AM
Message:"I waz teenkin -- MISTAKE NUMBAH 6."
I nevah no I wen make 5 mistake already!
Problem stay, I nebah wen rite in pidgin befoa, only lissen foa 30 yeah. An no walaau too much da kine, cause I no like da locals tink I try act- an I like my keiki foa speak both kines so nebbah wen speak um at home.
Jus wen jump in dis tread cause stay get one invite fo try um- guess I wen make some mistake but hey, at leas I wen try...
Chris
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/17/2008 06:43:04 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Kden I going translate fo yous: Menpachi man made one attempt at trying to think. And THAT was HIS OWN MISTAKE NUMBAH 6, not anybody else's mistake. Wakarimasu?
Anata no wa wakarimasen. Go try look at da manuel page 19 lidat, get da numbahs ovadea. You get da part wen Menpachi Man wen rite his classic "Da Fut of Alla Ages" which he wen rite wen he waz all cut anden, dat waz hiz mistake -- waz numba six. He wen cry bumbai coz I wen call him won babooze fo taking his epic litrature contrabution outta da tread. So eda he neva wen count da numbahs rite in da firz place oa he iz in won state a denial an neva wen count da numbahs rite coz hiz numba no count anden he wen give da numba six to Chris anden. You follow? Az rite yeah.
Reply author: Mika ele
Replied on: 06/17/2008 07:53:38 AM
Message:Kden I tawt Menpachi Man woz taokin bout da kine list of mistakes dachoo make alla time -- Jalike foget to put on pants is Mistake Numbah One, foget to zipem up is Mistake Numba Two. Buggah got one beeg lis ya know! Dat way he ken rmember da mistakes he alla time make.
Reply author: Mika ele
Replied on: 06/17/2008 07:55:00 AM
Message:Dat way mistakes is like a boxa chocolates!
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/17/2008 07:56:13 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrisequote:Braddah, you should know dass wrong awredeh fo try use one Pordagee reference book fo try prove your point. Adono and ainokea who dis Manuel person is, but for Menpachi Man to be called one babooze by one babooze is like braddah Javeiro calling you one Pordagee, which neutralizes da whole shebang. Anata no wakarimasu ka? Hah? Wakarimasen? Ho da warui desu ne! No make me hafto use da bakatare word on you.
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
Anata no wa wakarimasen. Go try look at da manuel page 19
Eh Momi, try come talk to Sensei Babooze while I go cool down and contemplate my piko.
Eh Braddah you no wot time it waz ova heah wen you wen call my name an said I waz slacken was 3:45 AM. Mos pepo dey stay sleepin dat hour a da morning coz stay dahk. Anden I get up brush my teef anden check in wid you guyz n you already stay talking stink about me. I giv you da ansa by talling you fo go look in diz tread page 19 – da won we stay talking on rite now. Wot we stay riting on rite now nobody befo in da histry a da whirl wen eva consida doing befo us guyz. Dis iz da manuel, dis iz da ref, dis iz da pigeon bible. If had covacharge, dis iz someting allota pepo would pay good money fo if dey could unnastand. Eh I no mo time fo diz I gotta go Queens fo won $2200 shot. I don’t see da point of breaking anymo wind wid you led alone contemplating yo piko would be too dangerous. I stay burn up already -- piss off. Now I no I gotta watch my back wid you, I tot it waz gonna be won good day but poho already.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/17/2008 11:38:12 AM
Message:Boys, boys, boys. No make me come ova dea.
And I don't even know what da heck you said, but I'm thinking you are now getting like dogs trying for see how high can shishi on da tree or pole.
Behave. Slightly.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/17/2008 1:12:00 PM
Message:Glenn - you didn't do anything wrong. Just tell us some more stories, now. Please.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 06/17/2008 3:53:47 PM
Message:
quote:So soon - back to da futtage, jahs li befoa.
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Exactly at da time you stay getting dat shot, I going be breaking wind at da very same time ovah heya...jahs fo YOU.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/17/2008 5:06:29 PM
Message:Menpachi- I nebah relly wen tink you say I make one mistake- I stay keeping track of da numbahs you wen post in da treds, mistake numbah one lidat. I jus when apologize cause eben do I undahstan eberybody, my pidgen mebe not so ono an kinda hard fo undahstan. An nebah wen try write um befoa, so eben mo hard.
But I stay know already mistake numbah six waz tinking bout Hotel Street wen I say waz tendah an ono.
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/18/2008 12:06:27 AM
Message:Braddah Ed - Braddah Glenn is a handsome dude. You very well could be more handsome, but how would we ever know? It's not like you love us enough to let us see who you are. (Is that good enough guilt trip nagging?) Even if you no mo show us you face, we know what youah heart look like. It look lovely.
And P.S. - Glenn probably tried to pick up some young tenderoni at the drug store by the nail stuff. Good technique, Glenn. Probably better than the monkey face technique.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/18/2008 02:56:20 AM
Message:"Okeh foget da lass pos, dat was Dr. Jekyll aka Dr. ToodamSerious"
Ho, stay glad we finly wen get dat straighten out! Get funy kine peple on dis forum- I wen apologise smal kine cause no moa one native speaker of pidgin, big huhu- but wen I like stir um up a lilbit, make all kine radical remarks bout da imu- no maia stalk, no debone da ti leaf, nebbah use string oa da tin foil, make shallow puka fo da imu- all kine radical remark, and nobody nebbah say noting...
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/18/2008 11:37:32 PM
Message:Enni you old futs can remembah dis? If can, den sheah da mana`o. Whea you wuz, whachu doing, a blass from da pass, kinda like woodstock. Look da ticket prices. Cannot even get one Maitai in Waikiki for dose prices.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/19/2008 02:11:49 AM
Message:Ho auntie wanda,if only could get my hands on one of dem originals,priceless.Where you finding these treasures?I wonder where dis concert was at,and wat dat eddie and clyde production?Wonder who was da numbah one contemporary band playing on da card.You find one postah let me know.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/19/2008 02:24:35 AM
Message:We have one hanging in Paul's music room. Printed from a digital file. Twas a gift from Kathleen & Bla. They have an original poster which they found at an antique shop. I beieve the show was at da Blaisdale.
I think the art work on the poster is exquisite, so very fine and detailed, if you see da big picture.
The artist is "Barbken". if anyone knows who that is.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/19/2008 11:29:55 AM
Message:Here is one very important and educational newscast. Try watch and tell me whachu tink. Important news story about the dangers of flatulence and kimchee. I just about rolled on the floor!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4plKeI8aVI
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/23/2008 12:16:02 AM
Message:I sure noticed when Jay took us to Tamashiro Market that the price of fish and shrimp was WAY lower than what we pay for here. The menpachi was like $6/lb. The BIG shrimps were about half what we would payover here. Paul ate fish allatime over there, nice fresh wonderfully tasting fish. There have been times he has had fish for three meals a day in Hawai`i. Do not take that wonderful fish and seafood for granted.
Something else you might take for granted in Hawai`i is the respect that children show for their elders. They are kind, considerate, helpful and caring toward older people. They always say "Auntie" or "Unko" or "Tutu". They do not have to be directed by Ma or Pa to give auntie a kiss. And the older keiki watch out for the younger keiki. That aloha is just part of their being, it is noting that has to be specifically taught them. I think it is in the koko.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/23/2008 02:44:04 AM
Message:I goine seconda Wanda bout da i'a. All da fish stay junk obah hea. I dono why, but eben da salmon from Chile, ono in Hawai'i, stay miko by da time we get um obah hea. Try look da pull date on da fish- stay one week, and da buggah alrady one week ol by da time she reach da shelf! I no, O'ahu get plenny kine junk fish from northwest chain stay week ol by da time she hit da shelf, but Big Island dey goine mark um down if da buggah no was caught last night- an no one like buy em. An no moa pull date- dey goine mark um wi da day da buggah wen get caught. Befoh, used to eat fish bout ebery day- now no can eat um.
Fruits is anoddah ting- I get big kine orchard Waipi'o, but obbah hea only can eat da ones in season cause da ones from da oddah side of da world stay junk. Like buying one peach in Hawai'i- sawdust kine, no can eat. So wintah time, only get apple- apple ship good. An citrus- I get plenny citrus Waipi'o! Evah try eat one citrus stay months old? Junk, dat! I wen try couple times- someone say "Oh try this- these are good!" I wen try, but no can. Junk. All da fruit stay rotting on da ground in Waipi'o- I like cry, sometimes!
Even moa- no can holo holo hea. Oh yea, can drive hours (no mo hoahs!)an go hunt one time in da fall, oa fish polluted lakes. An in da summer get berries- ono! Fall time get mushroom, too. But Hamakua sometimes we like go couple weeks oa one month in da mountain, only bring garlic and shoyu. Plenny foa holo holo in Hawai'i!
An no moa wild places. I tink get one place, about 40 acres, nebbah was plowed here in Lower Michigan. No old growth, wild places within six hours. No moa kai, neither. Get big kine lake look like kai, but malia- no nalu. An cold! Bra, you stick in da toe, nuff already! Buggah like fall off!
Plenny kine stuff I wen miss- smells, sights, sounds, colors- but wen save da mos important fo las. Frens, dere stay no moa mountains hea! No moa eben one small kine hill. Flat li one pancake. I wen live tirty yeah in Waipi'o, so I stay used to small kine terrain, les say. Pali, wailele, lidat. Obah hea no moa. An dat, I REALLY miss!
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/23/2008 06:12:32 AM
Message:Can go West Virginia and points south to see mountains, or west toward Colordo, etc. to see mountains, but they are not mountains like Hawai`i. Ko`olaus look like velvet or corduroy. Haleakala look like what I imagine the moon would look like, even with the silver sword. Mountains in W. Va. are round, no points on them, no good pali. Rocky mountains stay pretty naked. They do not look velvety like Ko`olau or Napali Coast on Kaua`i. Greens are greener. Blues are bluer. The sky is more beautiful blue than I can describe, as are the many shades of blue, green and turquoise of the water. Our Lake Erie over hear looks black. And get plenty sanitary pads, used needles and who knows what other nasty stuff floating, not to mention the dead sheephead floating in the water. And the zebra mussels. We get flowers over here maybe 4 months or if very lucky 5 months. Hawai`i has flowers always.
But we do have good sweet corn over here. Good strawberries, good tomatoes. And great peaches when it is the righrt season. Nothing like a fresh picked, fully ripe peach with the juice running down your chin. But that time is very fleeting. Grocery store peaches are worse than junk. They should be put in jail for selling something that in no way resembles a peach. False advertising, etc.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/23/2008 07:59:49 AM
Message:Howzit erebody,I gotta say since injuring my archilles tendon,da thing I most took for granted is mobility.To walk da beach,go hiking wit da kids,even to shoot baskets wit my son is haad.You know where I goin be wen da ankle get bettah,pickin opihi,walk da reef low tide and go wippin(fishing),Spear fish,walk da sandy beach,but most important just spending quality time wit da ohana.So to all you healthy mobile people out there go get em.And to those not physically able I somewhat know how you feel,and my heart goes out to you.Aloha braddah jay
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/23/2008 2:53:49 PM
Message:Wanda,
One time up at Keanakolu on Mauna Kea I spotted a peach in the top of the tree- that was the only edible peach I ate in thirty years living in Hawai'i...
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/23/2008 3:42:24 PM
Message:Don't peaches grow well in Hawai'i? I would think they would flourish, since they grow well in the south here on the mainland, you know, Georgia peaches. But they also grow well here in Ohio. Mmmmmm, good.
Jay - we do not realize how much freedom and mobility we have until it is taken away. I once fell at work and herniated a disk in my back and messed up ligaments and tendons in my legs. Oh, boy oh boy, was I hurting. I was on crutches for a while and at the hospital, sometimes they would wheel me in a wheel chair. I discovered rapidly how ill-prepared many public buildings are to accommodate those who are mobility impaired. The worst offender was one of my contractors. No, none of the industrial manufacturing facilities nor machine shops. It was a social-service agency whose mission was to take folks who were handicapped in one form or another and help give them vocational training. This place sewed women's garments for the military -- Army pants, Air force skirts, Navy pants, etc. A place that was supposed to be an advocate for those who are afflicted had all kinds of impediments to safe and easy mobility. Including rarely shoveling snow off theier walk or removing ice from their walks. I never gave it a second thought until I had to try to overcome some of the barriers myself.
I thought of another thing you guys in Hawai`i might take for granted -- the gentle rains. The rains are warm! And they only last a little while! Not like the pouring, driving, pounding rain over here, the rain that freezes you and chills you to the bone. And the lightening and thunder that rattles the windows. And sometimes hail as big as golf balls or larger.
But I have one question -- what kind of waste water disposal do you have? Sewers or septic tanks or what? Where does all the icky water go? On outer islands in remote spots are there still out houses used or does everyone have a flush toilet? What about cooking heat? Do you use gas or electric? Are there any natural gas wells in Hawai`i? Do any of the homes need to have furnaces?
Tanks, eh.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/23/2008 5:03:04 PM
Message:Get good seafood in WA, get my ohana, friends, good festivals, good jamming, get salt water (salt chuck), get mountains (Cascades, Olympics), get plenny stuffs. Get soft rain, an' dis year, get one cold summer! Today, was in da 50s til about 2pm. Ainokea, I get extra blankets. Also, get Guavasunrise da oddah side of da mountains!
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 06/23/2008 6:52:35 PM
Message:Guava wen delete da monkeh pos'. Eh come on brah! I not sensitive about mah looks. Go put em back! I tot was kinda funneh! I oneh sensitive about my rite han fingah nails. I ged da fingah-nails of death geetah. Fo u guyz wondering about my tekniq of poundin da fingahs on metal, da buggah work. Afta some time u no feel da pain! U ged use to it.
Braddah Jay, wot brah? Oahu still ged feesh? Eh no worrehz, I no go ax u wea in won public forum. haha.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/24/2008 01:01:26 AM
Message:Eh menpachi,still get,you just gotta know where fo go.Same like you,da spot!Only ting for me,I gotta go ninga.Blend in so as not to be seen.Ah I goin tell you since no can fish dea any moa.Pier 1 and 2,underneat.I rememba da first time I came across one school of white ulua,around 40 of dem inda 20 lb range,swimming all around me.Seems as if da pier is one freeway unda dea.One time wen I was swimming up on dis daak spot,da buggah stay movin.An wot was?one ball akule,undaneat da pier!Dis is true,one day I wen poke four different kind papio,one omilu,one buta(pig lip)one yellow striped,and one good size white papio.Was one of my betta days.Since 911,they're real strict.Last time I came out from unda da pier dey had guns pointed right at me.So much fo da secret spot.Me I like my kole,das my favorite.Menpachi I nevah know akule get real big,like from my finga tip to tree inches past my elbow,das da middle of my bicep!You must get some stories too,big island yeah?Love to hea some.Aloha braddah jay
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/24/2008 02:35:21 AM
Message:Long time ago (1978), wen fish off da ol pier at Whittington, na'alehu side. Get big kine ahi stay swimming by, non-stop. But onli get hand line, 20 lb. test, wit squid fo bait. Mebbe tweny times I wen hook up, but da buggah wen break um ebery time. Only ting I stay catch was dis big pufferfish- same one, time and time again. I tink da buggah wen eat one whole box of squid! Ho, da arm come soa from pull da buggah up to da pier so many time, but I nevah like make um.
Byembye no moa hook, so when back Na'alehu, buy 40 lb. test, wiya leadah, lidat. An plenny hooks an squid. Wen back in da morning- still get ahi swim by non-stop, plenny big kine. Ho, again an again I wen hook up, but ebery time da buggahs wen brake da line! But dat pufferfish- da buggah get one taste foa squid, big kine buggah, like 15 poun. If da ahi no bite, an da squid come back by da pier, he no scaid- he goine wack um, take one ride up to da dock. Anodah box of squid he wen eat!
Byembye, again no moa hook- da ahi when break ebry time dey hook up! I stay tired already- no mo f**k around! I like one ahi! I go back Na'alehu, wen buy 100 lb test line, 100 lb wiah leadah, plenny moa squid. No mo nuff kala fo one pole, but I goine whack one ahi dis time! I go back to da pier- no moa ahi. Next morning- no moa ahi. Plenny time obah da years I wen back, but nebbah wen see ahi dere again...
Sometime I tink (I nebbah try tink too often, but sometimes) "How many big kine ahi does it take to swim past the end of the pier non-stop for 36 hours?" (Only use small kine pdigin wen I stay tinking...) Cause could see plenny one time- no was like single file. I donno- mebe da buggahs wen stay swim in one big kine circle, but I tink was still one massive school, an ebery one one gorilla- I know cause dey nearly wen pull me off da pier wen I get da stronger line...
Chris
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/24/2008 11:11:23 AM
Message:What chris you nevah like tell nobody? Maybe if you wen wala'au wit somebody,dey might have set you up wit one rod an reel.Me I'm one true blue pordagee,many times braddah duke told me I have the gift of gab.I don't know about dat but I love meeting people,and talking story.Which brings to mind,it seems people in general are very weary.Especially two ugly buggahs like duke and I,but once you open up,ho da wala'au just flow.I tink wen and if da good lord should call upon me,he might roll his eyes,cause knowing me I still goin be talking to my last breath.What braddah chris I hope you nevah smoke back den,cause if you did no can light da cig,adrenaline flowing hands shaking,I no tink so.Das da kine story I like,da jacques cousteau kine....once in a lifetime.Mahalo fo dat aloha braddah jay
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/24/2008 5:27:36 PM
Message:Braddah Jay-
Now, I stay talk anybody- I gione try, anyway; if dey no like wala'au, das dere problem. But dose days I waz like 16 an kinda shy. Sides, plenny pellah no like da young haoles back den- one makule local wen unload one double barrel shotgun at tree frens of mine hitchhiking back from Honokaa to Waipi'o, an anoddah time foah buggahs wen swing one baseball bat speeding by in one kaa an nip da eah- anoddah inch or two an I would ha been make. An plenny times guys like beef fo no reason; one time get foahteen gang up on me. So dem days I waz a lilbit standoff kine.
Nowdays, if I wen see two ugly buggahs I gione smile and tro one shaka; an if dey no like, well, das dere problem- I jus goine be frenly to someone else. So I tink if I wen see you and Braddah Duke, plenny quick we goine be talking story jus like here on da kalo patch...
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 06/24/2008 6:22:44 PM
Message:Eh Guava Brah! No worrehz, I steh beezeh sometime. Eef I no like sumteeng, I come back fo scrap. Afta pau scrap, we dreenk beeya. I no geev silent treetmant. Eh, tanks fo puttin da monkeh back. Az me dat! No worrehz, tendaronez, dey like chocho lips, dey no like Frank Burns kine lips! I goin keep mine!
But yea Brah, me too, I steh tinkeen, hoh, mebbe I wen piss off Braddah Pete wid my lolo pos'. But den he not lidat, so den I steh worreh too, I hope he steh arigh. My prayers steh wid him. My braddah had same kine cancer as Pete, an had hard time. Dey waz at Queens same time but dey neva no each oddah. So I no how da drugs can wipe u out, make u depressed, no care to talk to nobodeh. Jus gottah pray dat he steh arigh.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 06/24/2008 6:40:07 PM
Message:
quote:After all the communication with and suggestions we had for Sharlene regarding this tour, that's really good news to hear, Braddah Ed!
Originally posted by guavasunrise
As a "for instance", da Hawaiian music group I play electric acoustic bass, guitar, and ukulele with accompanied our local hula halau in opening da concert for of all people The Makaha Sons Moon, John and Jerome last night right here where I live in Mayberry. And we only had good fun at da after-concert pupu party we made for them too!
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 06/24/2008 6:44:34 PM
Message:Bradah Jay:
Quote: <<Especially two ugly buggahs like duke and I>> Eh but Duke wen tell me dat he one chick magnet! He tell me, dey like his bolohed. An da way he play music, hooh dey melt in hees ahms. Hehe! Hooh good teeng I steh mainland, hees rite swing no can reach me.
Chris, u woz one lolo! Ahi is real strong. Da buggahs going rip yo han if u steh hold han line. If ged beeg one, goin huki u off da pier. Garans! Good teeng u neva catch one real beeg one. But now da pier steh broke up no? Still can walk on top em o wot? I neva go long time. I oneh go dea once a yeah fo catch shirasa (opae huna) for menpachi bait sometime.
But yea, Jay, yellow eye kole numbah one yea? Plenneh oil da buggah get. Good pupu da buggah! But da Kauai kine get cigua so gotta wachout. Used to have plenneh kole. Kawaihai, Milolii, Paradise Park, Makuu, Kings Landing. Can tell now coz now steh wipe out. Some guyz steh tinkeen, I wen wipe em out. No waz me! Lass time I went was 1976. An oneh 3-4 times a year. Scuba guyz an commercial guyz wen wipe em out. Da yellow-eye one da best. Had some beegah den my han long ago. Den had da black kine, an maiko, an api, kala, pualu, plenneh pakuikui an manini. But mosly yellow eye kole, aholehole, an menpachi we used to speah. My bradda in law, he waz good uhu man wid tree prong. He go down, dey go in da puka, and he go oddah sai of da puka, den wack em, leave da speah down so da uhu fight da speah, den he bring em up. One time one ulua wen steh follow my stringah about 25 lbs. I tinkeen, my tree prong no can hando. So I swim sammo, da buggah still follow. So I speah em anyway. Neva stone em so wen come off. Den bumby I feel bad. Waz jalike one pet was following me. My own pet ulua. Dis is how lolo I am. One time, I wen miss one menpachi in da hole, my speah wen in da hole, hoh, but had someteeng on da speah. I tinkeen, I hope not one puhi. But neva feel like one puhi (oh mebbe I should not type dat), but anyway, wen I wen pull em out, had one beeg nohu on da spear. Scoah beeg time.
Edit: An da ulua neva swim away rite away real fas. He wen swim pass me lil bit and geeve me stink eye befo swimming away. I neva did foget dat! Funneh kine ulua dat waz.
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 06/24/2008 7:42:23 PM
Message:So... Menpachi Man! Dat Ulua is your warrior ke aka: hang dea and karate da buggah wit da lightning-swift, niho-waha stroke, and den ai da kaukau. I tink da Ulua character is your honorable "guardian"........
Kai
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/24/2008 7:44:08 PM
Message:Braddah chris,sorry to hea about da locals doin dat to you growing up.I would be cautious too.Brah if only we wen meet,you would of been one haole moke in no time,das jus how I am.Me and braddah duke we no need gang bang,or use one bat.We old school,love haad,bang haad,but if you awa fren we goin take care you,no matta what.Eh chris wat da watah was deep or wat? I would tink so fo ahi to come chru.Still,das one jaques costeau experience.
Eh menpachi,da fish da one dey call fightin zero (orange circle) some say da buggah jalike kole,wat any truth to dat?Get planny of dat buggah running around.Also da kole ovah hea,she not dirty yet.And braddah duke wit da magnetic bolohead,no wonda he like play music all da time.Wat he said,music calms da savage beast,what he forgot to say,and brings da tenderoni's.Eh how come morticia forgot to tell us dat unko fester play slack key...ne ne only kiddin.If I can put up wit da masta blasta all dees yea's you know I love you my braddah.
Unko petah wey you? we miss your wala'au.I hope all is well wit you!Befo you know it,eh dea him
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 06/24/2008 8:29:00 PM
Message:Eh Baritone, no tahk lidat brah. U steh make me sked. If ulua is my aumakua, I had it. I wen catch a few in my ole days, oh, anden around 10 in da lass 3 yrs. Hoh, moah bettah steek to menpachi and aholehole.
Braddah Jay: Da zeros, az pakuikui da name. My Hawaiian frien, he no can dive awreadeh, he tell me, u go dive, u speah adleese one eh? I tell em, yea no worrehz brah, I ged one fo u, but usually I get adleese 5. Nomo oil like da yellow-eye but da bugga was ono. Plenneh guys no like coz dey tinkeen da feesh steenk. Cut off da spot an fry em. Ahdunno, az how somebodeh tell me. But my frien he like em betta den kole. I eedum but taste almos like black kole.
One time lass yeeah, we take his 12 yr old grandson go diving but he steh on on bodeh surf board. He waz happy-up swimmin aroun until we wen reach da 50 ft drop an I tell em real serious kine, u watch fo shark, no fool aroun, an no steh around my stringah. Dis is not one swimming pool! Hoh, hees face wen turn calah. But I wen watch em good. Always safety firs. I no can go 50 ft awready. Gotta get tank now. Shark neva come but wen we steh clean fish, dey wen come around, couple of white tips in 4 ft watah. I tell em, see, az wot I tahkin about. I no teenk he going wid us again same place.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/25/2008 03:11:43 AM
Message:Oh yah, da shark. Shark nebbah boddah me too much- eveh since I wen dive Australia an Fiji. Obah dea da buggas stay like da shark- stay like, Where we goine go? Da Stacks? No, no moa shark las time we wen go, I tink insai channel. No, No, insai channel junk, hardly nebbah see da shark dere- we go outsai channel. Yah, souns good- always plenny shark outsai channel! We go!
Das how da buggahs tink, Fiji. So we go outsai channel, shoa nuff get plenny shark. But dey no boddah. So I stay looking in da pukas, wen see one lionfish all spred out, look like one pictah in da National Geographic. I tink my girlfren stay at my sholder, so I turn fo sho her da lionfish- but no was my girlfren, was one six footah looking over my sholdah, wondering what I stay looking at.
Den Australia- off Cairns dey do one shark dive. Dey tell the tourists-Kay den, you jus goine sit here, no move for noting. Jes sit an eberyting goine be fine. Den dey go back up on da boat (dey no lolo!) an start trowing da buckets of koko an guts in da kai. Byembye (surprise!) plenny shark come, frenzy out, fighting ovah da blood.
Now wen my girlfren wen get certified deah, we wen meet on oddah lady from da middle of da mainlan- she stay scaid of da ocean eveah since she wen see "Jaws" as a keiki. So she goine get obah her feah, take SCUBA class, go fo one shark dive. Aftah she wen watch dese shark teah each other up, she come up so white look like one ghost. I no tink dat lady ebah wen stick one toe in da kai again aftah dat!
Me, I one night divah, cause I stay lazy an like get da fish when dey stay asleep. An I no scaid, cause all my life I stay in da ocean. Cept one time (1990)- da onli time I wen dive Oahu. Was da las day of Lobstah season, an I was doing one Raku (pottery) convention ting on da beach park by Chinaman's Hat- no can remembah da name. Anyway, had to go cause was last day of lobstah season, so I wen jump right in. Some dirty da watah- not li da Big Island! No could see noting. So I tinking I go swim outsai da bay and mebbe mo bettah. Now an den I wen dive down, see how deep I stay- thunk! Wen da light hit da bottom, den I know- no could see um!
Byeumbye I start fo get nervous kine feeling- I like look ovah my sholdah but no can see noting. I nevah wen feel li dat, so kinda spooky kine. I tinking jus waz cause I in one new place, new island, lidat. I nebbah like go in cause onli one, two time in so many yeah I wen get skunked, an I no like.
Byembye da spooky kine feeling wen disappear, den wen I get neah Chinaman's Hat da watah come cleah! Das wen I start fo see da bugs- plenny small kine but get some nice ones too, so I pick up a few. Wen I get enuf fo my frens, I head in. As I waz walking down da beach, get some guys wi one rope in da watah. Dey say- waz dat you diving out dere? Brah, right aftah you wen swim pas da line, we wen hook up one big Tigah! Mus ha been following you! Check um out...
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/25/2008 03:16:10 AM
Message:You guys just have swell fun fishing. Over here, no exciting fishing like that. I only ever caught bluegills, 'bout none bigger than my hand, tiny perch, bout none bigger than my hand, cat fish, some bigger den my hand, but not too big and crappies, small kine. One time I caught a walleye, maybe 2 pounds. I ever wanted to catch a muskie. Ho, that would be good fun. One time a girl friend and I went fishing by ourselves at one state park lake. We rented a row boat and went out looking for muskie, supposed to have big ones because the lake get very deep in da middle. We were near the shore and I was casting toward some weeds by the shore trying to get a bass to get mad at my bait (using worms). Next thing something smacked hard against the bottom of the boat, and then I see it swim away toward where I cast, the water parting over top da buggah. It was one humongous muskie, just going wherever he wanted to, not paying me no attention at all. He nokea if boat in the way. I never caught any bass that day except young ones, not too much bigger than minnows. And caught one sun burn.
I wonder if I can still row a boat? I row like heck on da rowing machine at Cardiac Rehab.
But, I am glad I never ran into a puhi.
Auhea wale oe, Peter? Where is our friend Peter? I hope you are huhu at us instead of feeling so poorly that you cannot tell us some stories or tell us how beautiful your day is ova Kaneohe. Actually I don't want you to be huhu either, but that is better than letting this damn cancer dictate how you gonna ack.
Menpachi - last thing I heard from Peter, I think, was about chocho lips. He was trying to be polite in explaining to me what they are. You are right, no lady/woman/tenderoni/hootchie-mama wants Frank Burns lips. Frank Burns is a ferret face. Looking for tenderonis is fine, as long as they are not too tender (don't forget I am mother of two tenderonis myself). But don't find no hootchie-mamas.
Oh, yeah, Duke could weave that magic spell ova da wahines when he go sing and play guitar. But Jay could too, but he don't need to. He got one very nice wahine at home, beautiful and full of aloha, and take good kea him and da keiki.
Our daughter leaves tomorrow for Brazil. She going learn how fo be Podagee. Only rite ting since maddah one honorary Podagee. One mont' in Brazil, I hope no go dose topless beaches Ipanema kine. Mo bettah go dat big stachu Jesus top da pali.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/25/2008 11:28:51 AM
Message:Braddah duke,you buggah.Ok den,just adding to da story of da white tip.Wen I used a rock fo load my compressed air spear gun,da rock wen slip as I had da shaft almost all da way inside.Actually da spear shaft wen all da way chru my hand,nevah panic,just was'nt as easy as I taut.Since I use an extra long swival barb,das wat made it harder to get da shaft outa my hand.Den I was good to go,so as I'm swimming along someting tell me to look back,I seldom look back,and wen I do deas dis white tip right behind me about six feet back.Eh das my amakua,but wait my stringer stay back about 30 feet,so how come dis buggah so close.I watch em make one pass,he come back more eratic on da second pass,on da third one he like act,you know like how we push out awa chess fo look tough.Dis buggah get his back arched,look weird,so I switch my gun to low and gave em one bip,peyoong gone.I tell you dey fas.And da tigah,yeah was big.His dorcel fin was as tall as me.Duke nevah tell you guys my love fo dive at night...alone.I know nevah dive alone,especially at night,but wat I haad head.Anyway I stay divin fo bugs (lobster),so wen I get close to da end of da pier I usually shut my light,cause sometimes get da haba patrol paak dea.So I come out real quiet and look up,it's real daak and I see two fallas talking story while fishin.Dey nevah notice me but I nevah tink a dat,I just wen ask em "wat you guys wen catch anyting" I felt bad cause braddah wen almost fall in da watah,one was so scade he must of wen fall back cause I no can see em anymoa.Da guy dat almos wen fall in said "brah wat da #/$*&% you doing down dea,you scead da @ %#$/ out us" I divin wat you tink.So I get outa da watah and wen go wala'au,you know me,true blu podogee.By da way since dos boys nevah catch notting I wen give em half my catch,dey was happy.Catalina is one totally different divin experience,ovah dea she drop off real deep lidat,hundreds of feet.But wat I like is da kelp beds,wen you dive down under da canopy of kelp,she's eerily daak,but comforting.In fact da kelp helps keep da watah malia.So wen you look underneath da only light is from da pukas in da ceiling of kelp,so wat you see is rays of sunlight shootin down chru da kelp.And since I free dive,I just dive from one ray to da adda.Only ting no string one floatah,buggah get tango,game bag on da weight belt is da way.Da folks I dive wit trip out cause all of dem use tanks,me free diva.Da only time I use tanks,is wen dey give me fish or lobstah...eh tanks.Dat place talk about bugs,hundreds,my special place get one cliff dat drop straight down hundreds of feet,on da face of dat drop off hundreds of lobstah's.Da abalone choke,black,green,red,pink,and white,das da abalone's kala from shallow to deep,pink being da most sought aftah cause of tenderness and taste.Me I go fo da black ones cause at low tide no need even get in da watah,just make like you lookin fo opihi.Da reason people no like da black ones is da kala and toughness,but you can scrub off da black.Back den I worked on da fuel dock and da restaraunt,so I clean em up and put em in one hobart slicer,quatah inch is good.Aftah dat give em lickin lilly bit wit da wooden mallet,not too much,jus enough fo make em tendah.Dip em in da egg battah den da panko,den deep fry dat buggah.And you know wat? dey nevah even know was da black abalone,"jay abalone is good,wat dis da green ones?" ah...yeah
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 06/25/2008 12:44:32 PM
Message:Wow, laulaus, ju' like I sittin' on somboddy's lanai lisning to all dis fish wala`au. All I need is shohts, tank top, slippahs, an one cold one.
I went fishin ony once, and I nevah catch natten. But my faddah wen tell me my granfaddah used to go fish off Hoonaunau wen dey usta live Kona in da 40's. I herd dis story like tird hand, but one night, dey was castin line from da shoah, and dey wen see one light undah wattah. Den da lines wen "fewwwwwwwwwwwww" and took off. Den da lines broke. Den dey took off.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/25/2008 4:51:47 PM
Message:Braddh Jay, I stay li you- I no like da tank wen I catch bugs. Lobstah like um in close, plenny surge- weah big fish no like come eat um, and nobody like go grab um. When get tank, BC, all dat kine, you too slow, an da surge goine take you too much. Sides, no can fit in da small kine crack, no can slide obah da shallow pohaku- hard fo manuvah when get tanks. Same ting wi da stringah- you get one line, goine hook up on da pohaku. So wen I like get da bugs, I goine carry da bag in my han.
But da tank stay ono wen you jus like go look, specially old, deep reef li dey get in Austrailia, Fiji, New Caledonia, Bay Islands of Honduras- to name a coupla favs. Bay Islands- Roatan- das da bes! I wen get certified wen I was foahteen- nowdays dey goine ask "what level you get? Only open water one?" Brah, wen I wen get certified no moa level- you stay certified, oa you no stay certified. I get obah tirty year experience all obah da worl, and you goine say I no can go cause I only open watah one? I tell you wat- we going take two tank an dive, an if you run outta aih befo me (cause I one big guy, yah?)den you goine take me any kine. Nebah yet I wen fin one buggah use less aih den me!
Now da rant stay pau, so back to catch lobstah. One glove, I can go either way. Mo hard fo swim, but wen you like grab da pohaku so da surge no take you, den stay good. Kinda clumsy an mo hard fo hold da lobstah, but den again you no scaid of da spine. But you grab um good, bare hand, so dey no can move, da spine no goine cut you.
Anoddah way I stay like you, braddah Jay- mos times no can fin nobody like fo go out wi me in da middle of da night, when da bugs stay partying. So at leas nine times outta ten, I goine by my own self. Funny kine ting, do- I nebbah wen get no problem fin someone fo eat da lobstah! Cause I get one secret- I stay allergic to shellfish. But I love fo scoop prawn an catch lobstah. So I get plenny frens wen I like go out, but nobody like come in da watah- dey jus goine hang on da beach, make one fiah, get da watah hot...
Guava, I get small kine cuda story too- mebe you kno I get one ahupua'a neah Waipi'o, hard fo reach cept by kayak. Mos times I paddle out early in da morning, when stay malia, but da trades nebbah like die down till sunset time. So I like launch jus at dark, paddle back to Waipi'o wen no moa wind, nice an cool, real choice time fo be out on da ocean. Onli problem alldatime da cuda like smack da boat WHACK! Kinda spooky but you get used to it.
So one time one cuda wen jump up, bite my elbow! Den da buggah no like let go! I trine fo shake um off, but no can. So I wen open da hatch, smack um widat. Den da buggah wen drop insai da boat. So li you I wen eat um- an onli small kine puka in da elbow, no baddah too much.
I wen see plenny kine funny stuff wen I paddle night time- one time waz like one lightning bolt undah watah, nebbah did imagine wa dat could be...
Chris
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 06/25/2008 6:25:35 PM
Message:Guava u ole fut! U had da kine hinge triggah kine? Dey no steh sell dat kine awreadeh. I use to use da kine. But da rubbah had da streeng fo put da back of da speah on. Woz too slow, so my faddah wen make one brass cup so can put da end of da speah insai moah fass. Dose woz da daze no? One time I woz diving, shock me! I see on ulua spinning on dat kine speah. Da ulua wen go all da way to da bottom wen steh still. I wen go down fo look an saw da speah dead centah. Not good shot I woz tinkeen. Ahdunno wah fo do. Sombodeh else feesh, I neva like boddah. Den I saw one guy wen go down to chrai ged da feesh buh wen come off. To dis day, I steh tinkeen, hoh, moah bettah I wen ledem my tree prong so he could stone em. He wen steh dive alone.
Da lobstah, one guy tell me he use mop fo tangle em coz he no like ged puhi bite. An yea, off season lobstah beeg fine. On season still yet beeg fine if get speah puka. U evah wen ged beeg 7-11 crab? One guy, he like trade good size lobstah fo da 7-11. Hehe I decline! U remebah long ago had da kine wooden goggles, one fo each eye like da swimmin pool kine. I used to use dat in da tide pools an fo peek up trow net. Slippah count brah, I trade u lobstah fo beeg slippah.
Edit: ok wait, mebbe 2 slippah. hahah
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/25/2008 7:40:40 PM
Message:Braddah ed,dat sounded like one good night of divin,anytime you no can see da lobstah cause get to much fish,plus nevah get fined,dat was meant to be.Divin at night wit one potnah to me is halfway like divin by yourself.Most time I look fo my potnah he stay way ovah dea.Braddah ed sounds like you nevah hit da watah fo awhile.But I bet washington get some beautiful fresh watah fishin.Ocean,country no mattah,long as someting stay peelin off line,das good enough fo me.
Braddah chris wat is dat,you no eat lobstah?Brah I would of love to go divin wit you,let em stay on da beach,we goin have good fun.On catalina had two braddah dat use to catch bonita(mackeral)fo bait,while trolling in da deep channel,dey would hook up mako shaak.What I nevah know is dat is exactly wat dey was hoping fo.Soon as dey get em by da boat shot to da head,gut em right dea,into da bag of ice.Two to tree is usually good,wen dey get home dey slice em into steaks.They wrap each one wit one chunk of buttah and garlic salt in foil.I remembah da first company party,big bonfire planny people,choke cold ones,and beautiful girls.And weah I stay,right by da grill.Dat fish in da foil,brah was some ono,I tink I ate about5-6 of dem buggahs,just squeeze da lemon on em brah.Till den I nevah know mako was dat ono,dey say da same ting about da thresher shaak.Anyway I love to hea your guys stories,dey bring back memories,that I sure do miss.But I tink da mastah anglah is menpachi man,dat's just my hunch.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/26/2008 01:04:28 AM
Message:Just remember that if it were not for spear fishing, Uncle Raymond Kane would not have learned slack key and would world would be a sadder place, yeah? That fishing started a domino effect that has profound implications. Trading the fish got lessons for Uncle, then he taught so many other people, some of whom are our Taro Patch brothers and sisters, and some of whom have taught others of our Taro Patch brothers and sisters. Who I am sure will continue the legacy, right guys & gals?
Glenn, Ed & Chris - Ho, I tink dese fishing stories make big kine homesick. But Chris, looks like you have fun in water no matter where you go. Maybe should go diving in Lake Michigan or Lake Erie.
Do they permit diving in Lake Tahoe That is one clean, clean, clean lake and way very deep. I bet can see swell stuff down there. Paul caught a big trout there and had to poke da guy to let out all the air pressure before putting him back in da watter. They stay so deep they puff up when you bring them to the top of the water. Except we went there middle of October and was ice at the edge of the lake in the morning. Brrr.
Momi - you cannot let one day of unproductive fishing become your entire fishing history. Where you live, bound to be good fishing.
Braddah Ed: I know you say you live oddah side da mountains in da desert boonies, but wot, no kah. Save yo pennies fo gas and den go driving west. Go west young man.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/26/2008 03:20:41 AM
Message:Braddah Jay, no can eat lobstah cause stay allergic. No prawn, no opihi, an specially no oyster! One prawn I no goine make, but my family say I small kine psyco aftah I grine um. Two prawn feel like get someone stabbing me in da belly. Oyster sauce in da grines, I goine get covered with two inch red bumps all ovah da body.
Shark I no eat cause wen my "uncle" firs wen take me night dive, he wen tell me "you no eat da shark, an da shark no eat you". Den he wen jump in da watah an disappear- all I see is da fin cut da watah. I sweah he wen change into one shark. I go follow an das when I find lobstah stay choke, all obah da pohaku night time. Byembye he come back, get whole 120 quart coolah full of fish. Me, I no mo shark, so all I wen catch was half dozen lobstah. But I stay hooked fo life on night dive- daytime junk fo fish! An I nebbah wen worry bout shark aftah dat, case uncle wen tell me dey no goine eat me if I leave um alone, an he should know...
Chris
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 06/26/2008 06:30:17 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
Momi - you cannot let one day of unproductive fishing become your entire fishing history. Where you live, bound to be good fishing.
I way too gasagasa fo go fishin. Gotta sit still too long, no can hando.quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Okay so you gotta keep wat I going tell you one secret. Da name of da beach that they always go to is called......"Uwajimaya Beach".
Brah, da ony kine fish I wen get from Uwajis fo you is CPW. 'As one strange kine fish - bright red an yellow an stay shaped like one bottle.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 06/26/2008 06:59:46 AM
Message:Years ago, the Edgewater Hotel on the Seattle Waterfront (famed as the place where all the rock stars stayed and threw wild parties) used to have their slogan "Fish From Your Window" painted on the side of the building.
I used to want to go there with a bucket of fish from the nearby Pike Place Market - and toss them OUT the window. Fish...from my window, y'see.
Ai-ya.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/26/2008 07:55:41 AM
Message:I fish at Fisherman's Terminal at times.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 06/26/2008 08:00:50 AM
Message:
quote:It certainly is terminal for the fish.
Originally posted by thumbstruck
I fish at Fisherman's Terminal at times.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/27/2008 03:29:09 AM
Message:Hey, you li see one opihi run? You take one pipihi, put da buggah on da side of da opihi get eyes- da high side. Da pipihi eat da opihi, so wen da ophi see da pipihi, he goine stan right up an run away! Cause da opihi mo fast. Some funny, dat!
Small kine secret- wen you like opihi but no get opihi knife and no like whack um wi da rock, try scare um li dat wi da predator. Wen da opihi pick up fo run, das wen you pluck um- easy kine!
Braddah Duke, dat moi/aholehole spot stay Hamakua side- can tell cause da young kine euycalyptus plantation. I tink mebbe Pa'auilo landing but dey nebbah like show where stay so kinda hard...
Bu' me I like da firs kine fishing you wen show- da buggahs jus jump in da boat! Byembye mo bettah hemo da light cause goine be sink boat kine, dat... plenny too many fish!
Remines me small kid time we wen stay neah La Paz, Mexico (1970)- camp out right on the beach. Ebery morning n evening da big fish wen chase da small fish in to shore- da small ones dey jump right on da sand fo get away! Den dey flop bach in da watah if we no grab um firs. So one time I get one idea- cause dey come same time ebery day. So I wen build one fiah right by da watah (no mo nalu dere)- den I put da grill on, an one fry pan. Byembye hea dey come- one wave of fish, stay jumping on da sand. Sho nuff, PLOP!- right in da fry pan, jess li my plan! Real funny kine fo one small kid!
Me, I like dese fish tales- but I nebbah goine compete fo da mastah anglah title! I no fish dat way too much- jes some ono fishing wi my fren off his zodiac sometimes. Sometimes we hook up, though- wish I had da photo in digital, but one time we wen catch so many ono, get one pitcha look li one can sardine- but da "can" stay one 17 foot Zodiac, an da "sardine" stay 40 poun ono! Plenny ono Waipi'o side cause no one like go out- big kine surf obah dere! My fren, he no scaid- but one time he wen watch "America's funniest home videos" an dere he was- trying fo launch tru da surf! No can make um ebery time...
Still, I kinda lazy so I like night dive, cross net, lilbit trow net- easy kine, lilbit hana, plenny fish kine. So me, I only use a rod wen I go in da boat, jes cause no sense nebbah drag one luah wen you goine fo one boat ride, you no? But me, I goine foah da boat ride, an if catch, das extra.
Chris
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 06/27/2008 07:02:58 AM
Message:I wondah wot kine flava dat carp get? If ono den dey should mahket da buggah oah make cat food oah fertalizer liʻdat. Dey get real bumbutcha so dey broke da net but mebbe can make stronga net foa catch dem buggahs.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/27/2008 08:54:29 AM
Message:Sometimes they use carp for gefilte fish (kinda like Jewish fish cake) and also pike, because they are plenty bony also. But mostly nobody eats carp beause they garbage eaters. They will eat anykine you tro inna watah. Homely, too wit dem gasping mouts, trying to get you feed dem. Plenny ponds and even fish hatcheries get carp so many ducks walk on dea backs. Is true! Pymatuning Reservoir, border Ohio/Pennsylvania. Get muskies obah dea. Plenny big kine. Look see da Lake Erie muskie: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06337/743058-358.stm
Some people say they are fresh water barracuda, but I dunno. They just big and ugly and got lots of teeth and eat beer cans and license plates. Or anything else that might be in the water.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06190/704548-37.stm -- Look see choke carp at Pymatuning.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/28/2008 05:39:50 AM
Message:All this talk about fishing has reminded me about a picture of Duke with a fish-eye lens. I love you, Dukie. No get mad.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 06/28/2008 5:26:48 PM
Message:I surrenda awreddy. You guyz too much. I brokd one vein laffing too much.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 06/28/2008 9:05:54 PM
Message:Braddah sirdukesir --- how many girigiri I see in dat beard???
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 06/30/2008 09:48:30 AM
Message:Pua you ok but edumacation got notting to do wit pidgin talk. If you tink that colonialst tactics going work then you are wrong. Canadians today are apologising for kidnapping first inhabitant kids to educate dem. Sista you open one raw sore when you equate education with choice of language being used. you bettah go back school and erase the western indoctrination that you are positing in your post. If you was Hawaiian you would sound like one coconut when you write dat kine stuff. You donʻt have to read this thread.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/30/2008 12:12:00 PM
Message:Educated???? Dr. Menpachi; Peter Medeiros? No`eau? Duke? Jay? Braddah Ed? ll dese guyz way mo edumated den I will evah be. Dey smaht all kine ways. And mo bettaah, dey got good hahtz, too. Full of aloha. They neva make fun of us haoles for talking differently, even if one hillbilly kine.
I once had a female boss who gave me my annual performance review. She told me that I should stop acting like a dumb hillbilly. Yikes, sorry lady, but I am one dumb hillbilly; cannot change a leopards spots. She told me to stop hanging around with da guyz on the team and don't be so nice to them. I was raised that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. She also told me to stop dressing in a feminine way -- to dress ASEXUALLY. No lace, no frills, no ruffles, no perfume, no makeup, no jewelry. Up until I had this performance appraisal, I thought I was doing a super job at work. This appraisal, frankly, sent me to the ladies room to sit in a stall and cry my eyes out. I was flabbergasted. For once, I was speechless when she told me these things. Then the next thing I knew, this appraisal results in a large cash award for me for sustained superior performance. Go figure.
Bottom line, Nancy. You know what this topic is about. Respectfully sharing your point of view is one thing. That certainly is what Duke was looking for when he posted the topic. But I will not permit you to equate educations or lack thereof by the way they choose to write posts on a web site. There was absolutely NO reason for you to add that comment. No reason other than to pretend that you are the educated one and you are superior because you do not speak that way nor do you like to speak that way. You may have had lots of Hawaiian friends. You may have had someone from the islands who helped you make your son, but you know what? You are still a haole. Injection does not make one Hawaiian, nor does it give you freedom to be insulting. And being haole does not give you the right to sneer at someone who by choice, speaks differently than you.
This comment to my friends was so insulting that if you were here, I might woulda hadda been restrained. The big difference between them and you is that they are nice and kind. Hah - and educated.
I know I am being rude right back at you and that is something I cannot abide in other people and I am slightly ashamed for being so now. Sometimes, though, I've just gotta stomp my feet and say something.
Reply author: cpatch
Replied on: 06/30/2008 1:59:30 PM
Message:Before this becomes even more inflammatory, can I suggest that everyone offended by Nancy's comment take a deep breath and a step back, give her the benefit of the doubt, and let her explain herself before commenting further? She has obviously touched some deep chords in some of you, but I doubt it was intentional or malicious. A little aloha (the cornerstone of this community) goes a long way here.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 06/30/2008 2:59:35 PM
Message:I usually donʻt talk about myself. I have two count em two BA degrees. I think it is fun to have a pidgin post. Maybe you donʻt know but a literary journal from UH called ʻBamboo Ridgeʻ encourages writing in Pidgin and I feel that Menpachiʻs story would warrant publication. I herd the guy has a doctorate. Ans as for stepping back I donʻt think so. We stepped back before and we lost a nation. I donʻt know why some people have to always assume we are not smart if we choose to have fun in pidgin. Friends that is one form of our
native language and no amount of explanation will excuse an
inadvertant attack on us. Why we always gotta step back when
we get insulted. who the heck thinks we always wrong when we defend
our selves. I have said that pidgin is a bonafide language it is not
a dialect. If any body nevah lern that yet keep your yap shut.
Its ok too disagree but it is like food if you no like da taste no
eat em. But no get on your high horse and tell us you no like da
thread.
Jus no read da ting we no need you foa tell us what is wrong wit us.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 06/30/2008 3:54:11 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Dass all fine and dandy brah, but until you can master da use of da "Reply with Quotes" feetcha on dis message board like me, "Wax on wax off, Daniel-san."
Hahah ... I not dat lolo brah!! Wen fool yu eh? Wah brah like play sammo pool?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 06/30/2008 3:57:11 PM
Message:Two minutes of yo time okay den. Okay den you guyz, say wat you gotta say but jez sayem wonce anden go do something else no waste time wid diz won. Aldo I gotta admit diz won opportunity iz kind of ripe to really express yoself. Bud tryan tink clearly about wot it iz you want to say jez so you have no regrets latah. Anden I tink would be mobetta to step back like Craig wen ax, anden take one nodda good look anden seddle down and figgah out if dis iz anyting nu. An you no wat? Da ansa iz gonna be no. Because how many times someone in dis forum wen forget to take dea smaht pills in da morning anden wen write sometin truly offensive, stupid, wid no class anden dey press da send button. Aftawords dey go oh shit!!! I tink I made won mistake. I kenna takem back, why did I do diz?
Dey no moa da powa rangers powa wea dey can go makem disappear like bruddas Glenn an Ed an us guys have. Da bess dey can do is hope nobody sees it right? But dat ain’t gonna happen on dis paticula tread, because it iz da mos read tread in da forum rite now. Even I, as you northwest guys no, have been lurking fo da paz two weeks I waz hurt by som stupid comments, bud radda den dwell uponem I jez ledem slide off coz I get way to much work going on ova hea dat I gotta do befo I go back to work at UH anden.
I make my comments now because I no she wen screw up an I no dat she iz a nice person. Jez like I no coz all you guys wen tal me in yo emails dat Ed iz won nice guy jez dat he got caught up in da moment an I shouldn’t be pissed off wid him and too bad I waz watchin da train of tot az it went down da path of destruction. I waz piss off fo mebbe won day, bud I am still alive an da books I stay riting stay ready fo completion by da end a dis mont oa mebbe next mont.
Bud da ting is I tink I took won really positive path. I neva, like Wanda sed, turn da problem into won pissing contest. We should do same wid diz, jez go on wala`au keep tinkin wid da head, keep writing and keep laughing. Anyways, I figgahed wid out me you guyz not as funny.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 06/30/2008 4:11:17 PM
Message:Who was dat?dey wen say "why I play guitah","cause good fun""why I do dis",and"why I do dat,cause good fun".Which reminds me why we like talk pidgin cause good fun.Brings out all kine stories,even some good memories,and many times a good laugh.I can tell deas alot of intelligent people here,reminds me of da saying,a big man shows how big he is by how he treats the little man.In that I mean,how smart you are has nothing to do wit joining in and simply talkin story,whether in pidgin or not.I goin be honest wit everybody,I once thought dat we had high intellect clicks here at TP,and dat lack of reply was due to,in my mind dat dey was bettah dan me.But I'm happy to say,boy was I wrong.I'm glad I was wrong,because I learned from dat.I only hope maybe someone will realize that they too was wrong,and maybe learn from dat along da way.Aloha braddah jay
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 06/30/2008 4:29:26 PM
Message:Actually I have been very impressed with the level of education shown by the posters in this thread. First of all, there is the subtlety of the humor- perhaps it is partially because I was not raised with pidgin but my own sense of humor leans towards the subtle and yet a fair bit displayed here sailed right over my head until referenced by other posters. Hoof hearted? That took a few days to click, even though it was the subject of many posts.
Equally interesting to me was the transliteration of many terms that one doesn't normally hear in everyday pidgin conversation. I have been quite facinated by the various spellings chosen. The variations in everyday terms- even by the same poster, or within a single post- has also been interesting, as well as the cultural and geographic variations (some intentional, some subconcious).
And of course, best of all have been the stories and personalities shared- I feel I have gotten to know the posters far better than I would have otherwise. And some of the stories and comments have been so funny! And some so deep. I just love the way people have loosened up on this thread!
Of course, the thread title asks if posting in pidgin is a turn off, and that naturally invites the answer that it is. Many people, like Pua Kai, must find it difficult or impossible to follow- in fact many fluent pidgin speakers can have trouble following the written form! So it is natural for people to be turned off by it, in spite of the invitation to jump in and join the fun. Just as I am turned off when I hit a web page in French, which I don't really understand. It is the statement "I imagine I'll get shouted down by those who don't want to admit they are educated" that people find offensive. Frankly I see everyone here gleefully expressing the truth that use of pidgin has nothing to do with education. In fact, they joyfully flaunt their education while talking in pidgin.
Pua Kai, if you took the time to plumb the depth and subtlety of the conversation occuring here, you never could have equated pidgin with a lack of education. Excessive fart jokes aside, this has been a deep sharing with very bright people. I am sorry you have been unable to participate at a level where you can see this; no one was meant to be excluded but with any language there are a majority of people who can not understand. But realize that just because someone is speaking Maidu, Samoan, Latvian, or pidgin Hawaiian, the fact that you do not grasp the depth and full meaning of what is being communicated does not mean that those speaking something besides "Hollywood English", even though they are capable of talking like they are from California, are necessarily uneducated or even pretending to be.
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/30/2008 4:34:02 PM
Message:Peter - I am glad you are back to teach us more stuff, important things in life we should know.
And definitely not as funny without you. You haven't yet taught me what my duties are as an honorary Podagee lady. And tanks, eh, for telling who in da pitcha Gabby dem.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/30/2008 4:39:42 PM
Message:And I even like the look of that girigiri Braddah Ed wen give Braddah Duke. Quite smaht lookin' dat.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 06/30/2008 4:45:32 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Not everybody can stand my peculiar sense of humah (Momi and Retro might even call it bizarre)
Momi's response: "beyond bizarre"
Retro's response: "Bizarre doesn't even begin to cover it."
I haven't been fishing since my grandfather took me, somewhere in Iowa, when my age was still in single digits.
I'm educated in many areas - but lack the knowledge required to speak pidgin.
There. I think I'm caught up on this heavy thread now.
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 06/30/2008 5:36:47 PM
Message:Eh, Guava!?! Wa happen?!? I wuz sleepin? Wat!?! O'K; I goin bac schlep. Oops. I sorry fo say da kine "schlep". My Schlep'ese not as gooda my cognitive cape's. Malama da pono. I goin back sleep.
I had hard time in school.......... Fortunately, I went private college and "bought" my Masters of Science pepa (whuuu; no wuz cheep).
Herb
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 06/30/2008 5:37:30 PM
Message:Excellent comments by all. I apologize if I went too far . But in my youth I was one down in the trenches activist which is where I met bother Peter by the way. He has never said as much as he has since this thread went to pidgin. I learned more of what is in his heart and mind here than any of my personal encounters with the gentleman. And I am talking about over 30 years by now.
Menpachi, Ypo, Guava man youguys are eloquent when you choose to be. As well as Jay and Duke. But it is true that we all opened ourselves to scrutiny by the public eye. And I admit I was touched by everything here. So my activist self jumped up and said
"whoa no talk stink about my frens liʻdat!"
It is just we always get to be the ones who have to say sorry. I donʻt regret what I said and I was not attacking any one specific. I was attacking an attitude that has prevailed since Capt. Cook first arrived on our ʻaina hānau. So I guess i still have a raw nerve somewhere.
Thank you all for you thoughtful response. I just get too involved sometimes. But I am Hawaiian and proud of it.
I donʻt know how this changed to double space but I donʻt know how fo undo dis buggah.
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 06/30/2008 6:18:11 PM
Message:Eh, Chris! Menpachi! I did speah small keed time. Did Breakwater, Keaukaha, 4 miles, Coconut Trees, Richardson's, Pumaile Hospital, King's Landing, Kapoho, Pohoiki, Kalapana, Whittington's Beach, Punaluu, S. Point, Milolii, Hoonaunau, Keahou, Kahaluuu, Kailua, Waikoloa, Hapuna, Mauna Kea Beach, Puako, Kawaihaie. Pau, I tink. Nevah went one nudda island. Dis all back in 52 - 58! Fifty Years ago!
The only methods I nevah use is the clorox and M-80/dynamite (us guyz get ethics, yhea). Speah, surrond net, throw net, maka'ha, and raise-em-in-one-beeeg-fishpond. Still I nevah chance em like you; though I most times went by myself. Superstitious, you know, no can announce I "going fishing".
Oh! No worry, brah. You treat da Ulua right, da Ulua treat you right.
Herb
Albeit (wat kine word dat), I think you buggahs get da chicken-skin kine talk-story! I NO CAN TOUCH YOU GUYZ!!!!!!!!!!
Herb
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 06/30/2008 6:41:18 PM
Message:Eh Baritone! U wen go all da same place az me! Not da same no? U moah ole fut den me!! U go Maunakea beach sai, get cigua now. Kapoho all private. I neva go Keahou cept wen real small keed fo manini. An Kahaluu, ahdonno wea dat. Neva go hospital. An da dynamite/chlorox guys, I like shoot em, leave em fo shahk bait! Heheh, no worrehz, I neva shoot nobodeh!!! Ain't goina admit to da hole worl, I not dat lolo.
Yea get plenneh cheeken skeen storehz, but ah no like pos fo da hole worl. Me an Duke steh trade lil bit small kine storez but some personal teengs, u kaina keep kapu. Bumby dey teenk u iz LOLO!
U no can touch us guyz???? hahaha, now I no U IZ ONE REAL BULA I A!!
Reply author: cpatch
Replied on: 06/30/2008 7:34:16 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by noeau
I donʻt know how this changed to double space but I donʻt know how fo undo dis buggah.
It
could
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Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 07/01/2008 03:23:06 AM
Message:Baritone,
Mus ha been some ono fo dive yoa times! Nowadaze plenny places pau. Mauna Kea Beach- befoa time I use fo dive dea, den one day da reef make. Locals wen tell me dey clorox da reef cause no like locals come dere no moa, but I donno. Me I tink was golf course runoff an sewage ovahflows. No make sense spoil da diving fo da tourist, no?
Puako too all pau now- too many house, cesspool, lidat. Lilbit good kine from Hapuna to 69's, den no moa noting. An da reef off Spencer's- so ono in da 1970's- pretty much pau cept way outsai. So Puako to Kawaihaie pretty much junk dese daze. North of deah stay ono cause da currents go south, bu all da old roads get gate. Me, I no scaid- I jus make one new road; love dose Toyota 4WD's! Dey no moa right fo block access makai- we get rights in da Constitution fo access mauka an makai. Wen da buggahs like block access, me, I use wha I call "slow key" I always stay get in da glove box- supah glue. Ebery time you li use one access an get gate, lilbit supah glue in da lock goine fix um. Kinda slow, but byembye dey goine get tired fo bring one cutting torch ebery time dey like open da gate, an den dey no lock um no moa. "Slow key".
Menpachi- use da same rights Kapoho side. Jus cause private no can keep you out if you like access da shoa fo fish. I like dive Vacationland- fo a wile dey wen get on gate an security guard fo try keep you out. I jus wen tell him I like access makai, no can stop. He wen let me tru ebery time. An da subdivision dat get automatic gate, need one card- well da "slow key" work eben bettah on dat one... No let no one take yoa rights, or you goine lose um. I stay wi Noeau on dis one- got to stand up. I stay one big landownah too, but I nebbah goine try stop nobody from cross my ahupua'a; an I no goine let nobody try stop me from using my access rights, oa any oddah right I get.
Chris
Reply author: Basil Henriques
Replied on: 07/01/2008 10:42:43 AM
Message:Almost 2000 members, yet 35 pages of "Mainly Off-Topic" chat by, how many ? yet read 8129 times.
Go ahead, count the number of DIFFERENT posters..
The last page I can find with an actual reference to the topic question is page 2 !!
I'd say the question posed on the initial post is answered definitively.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 07/01/2008 11:43:37 AM
Message:
quote:As a "no," I'd say. Hasn't kept this thread from generating plenty of "talk story" conversation.
Originally posted by Basil Henriques
I'd say the question posed on the initial post is answered definitively.
It's one thread out of thousands. No one is forced to read it or participate in it.
Reply author: cpatch
Replied on: 07/01/2008 12:47:15 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Basil Henriques
Almost 2000 members, yet 35 pages of "Mainly Off-Topic" chat by, how many ? yet read 8129 times.
Go ahead, count the number of DIFFERENT posters..
Shows that a lot of TP members enjoy just reading along. (Which in turn seems to answer the original question.)quote:
The last page I can find with an actual reference to the topic question is page 2 !!
Page 36 now.quote:
I'd say the question posed on the initial post is answered definitively.
Perhaps, but I suspect this thread will continue. After all, that's what the "Talk Story" section of TP is for.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 07/01/2008 3:19:53 PM
Message:E try explain wot da heck is hoof hearted? See I know shame fo ax if I doe know sumpting. Da ting wit pidgin is we make up many stuffs too so it sounds like inside stuff. Like "try no make!" and boy I blankin out o hea. Try help me out I know ovah da years and get plenny liʻdat alsways get one catch phrase come up das mo popular den rice. Oh yeah like "as why hahd" is one noddah one. I know earliest we was compiling one dickshunairy. But how one wit phrases. Dis might help da non pidgin speakers fo make sense about wot us stay talking.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 07/01/2008 4:35:21 PM
Message:Lolopachi:
Lemme cheep een braddah Duke. Oh yea, befoe I go on, yea yea ... Pidgin Slack -- good taito no? Guava Sunrize, hahah, he ged fanceh name no? Sleeeek da buggah! Yea, Guava Sunrize, good taito too! Buh he no can oudsleeek me, cept in playeen music. Hoh, I steh set da stage fo beef no? Eh nah Guava-man, I steh oneh joke. (chuckleen to self). Wah brah, like go beef in pahkeen lot? I ged won case beeya fo aftah bussup.
Ged one postah I like call out! Hey Reid -- wea U steh? I miss yo posts. Plenneh guyz misundahstan u buh nah me. I no u ged good heart! U no y I like yo often perceived pompos-azzed posts? Coz ... u remine me ... of ME! Hehe, so come out brah! Go tahk sammo.
End LOLO Menpach-man.
Contemplative Menpachi: Continuing on my dissertation:
My analysis of those who take the pedantic view of this thread is that they lack a global cultural IQ as it stands in Hawaii. Some background about me: My logical IQ is tested to be at a genius level. However, my social IQ is borderline retarded. My cultural IQ is advanced especially where fishing is concerned and where the major ethnic groups are concerned. Therefore I request that those with highly developed social IQ’s step in immediately should those with borderline retarded social IQ’s such as Guava and I cross social boundaries. Sorry Guava man but like me, you are socially retarded. Despite my retarded social IQ, I will attempt to expound on why we embrace this form of pidgin.
People should realize that pidgin came into existence as a language necessary for communication among folks with a wide variety of languages. Had not English been established or “forced” as the language of choice, I am inclined to believe that we all would have spoken a form of pidgin Hawaiian. Pidgin was the formation of a language necessary for communicating among various ethnic groups, nothing more. You may ask, why then do you choose to speak it now? For many, it is not a choice. For others like me “King’s English” is a choice, but I gravitate towards pidgin because it is my roots. When you cut off your roots, it is as if you are cutting off the branch that you are sitting on. Why do we tenaciously embrace pidgin? Pidgin is a form of communications which in turn led to a cross-cultural identity, unique to Hawaii, seen in no other parts of the world. People with disdain for Hawaii pidgin have no understanding of the importance of this melting pot of races. If you remember, comedian Delima often poked fun of the many races and we all laughed without taking offense. Unfortunately this too is dying.
The roots were once cut from under the Hawaiian people and now they are growing back. Many of us non-Hawaiians celebrate this. Some may say, “But you are Asian”. I say, so what? A strong part of my psyche is Hawaiian especially where Hawaiian spirituality surounding the ocean is concerned. This is the case with many other ethnic people who grew up there for several generations.
If I were to speak with the vocabulary and tone of one of my previous post and this post to my ohana, I would receive seriously raised eyebrows, looks of incomprehension, and piercing looks of accusations that I crossed social sensibilities. Many of us growing up were raised by grandfathers or grandmothers who spoke first generation pidgin. Many of us also had interactions with first generation elder pidgin speakers of many other races. As with many other cultures, the language was no longer was a form of communications. It is ingrained in the most deepest part of our souls because that is how we communicated with loved ones and loved ones who passed on. The emotional memory associated with pidgin is very deep. Many of us embrace pidgin because of the older generations who are still alive. They are those who cannot comprehend the words of my previous post and perhaps this post. Many older generations were not highly educated. But they had wisdom transcending any education that I received which is the highest level in this country. When we speak pidgin to the older generations, it is a form of respect. When we speak to each other, it is heart to heart communications. And quite often the heart to heart communications transcends the words itself such as intuitive knowledge of “da kine”.
Is speaking pidgin a turn off? Answering with a simple yes or no suggests a cultural IQ of Hawaii that is well below your knees.
End Semi-dissertation
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/01/2008 4:52:06 PM
Message:Hear, hear, Dr. Menpachi.So brilliantly and eloquently spoken. Chicken skin.
But you did get one point wrong -- neither you nor Braddah Ed are socially retarded. You both have sensabilities that we all should aspire to. You are both so very astute at reading a situation and knowing just how to approach that situation. You both have given me great friendship and advice when I need it, yes, friends, about social situations. And that advice has always proved to be sound advice, right on the mark!
So, Glenn, be proud of how smart you are, how educated you are, what a good fisherman you are, what a handsome man you are, what a good guitar player you are, what a good story teller you are, what a fine son you are, what a swell computer dude you are, and most of all, what a fine friend you are.
OK, I am pau. Me & kitty are going hiamoe.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 07/01/2008 4:58:56 PM
Message:Wondah! Haaaahhh? I tole u awreadeh. I ged won face dat look like one truck wen run ovah em. An u dunno me, at work, I way moah pompos den Reid, az y I like heem. I see hees heart, beyond da words. Me an Ed is socialeh retarded an futahded. No can help, we woz bohn dat way. Azz y haahd!
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 07/01/2008 5:09:22 PM
Message:Eh braddah Duke, gaddah tahk harvahd no? Oddawize da hole worl no undastan! Oh yea, long ago, had plenneh Keeng Landeengs opihi peekahs missing, no can fine. No hea too much dees dayz. heheh, buh plenneh guyz wen go mainlan like me az y I steh still alive.
hoooh nok on wood eh?
Chris: Mahaloz fo da advise, u rite brah, gotta keep da feehing an shoah line rites open. An da run-offs, az da stuff ste make moah cigua.
Baritone: I ste remembah da hospito, Puu Maile? O someteen lidat. Plenneh spooks dea. Bebeh cry lidat. Wen get wipe out from da tidah wave.
Wea Jokah? Eh Jokah, u donno, mebbe I woz good friens wid yo fadda long ago in Hilo. Small worl befo time.
Noeau: chrai go HOOOF from da kapakahi sai. Speshelleh wen u wen go eet too much sweet bodato. U goin no wot HOOOOF is.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/01/2008 5:53:18 PM
Message:Wow laulau, Dr. U`u wot iz dis bizness wea you saying I use allada Harvahd werds lidat. No ways brah you waz smokin, I was truly impressed wid yo elekence wid da inglish. Sheesh waz jez like I waz back at work. You waz so righton about diz being oua first language wid oua loved ones lidat. Aldo I can write and speek in propa inglish I no I tink in pidgin, because alla Hawaiians at Lab School had to go speech terapy in alimantry. All I like say iz well sed cause you speakin fo alla da guys not jez FBI. Please note I neva rhymne da werd sed wid buddhahead yeah. Oh buy da way tuff guy I no like beef, but you get chicken oa fish? I'm on won diet.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 07/01/2008 6:27:41 PM
Message:We all communicate in a range of ways. Some use the English language, some use Pidgin, some use `olelo Hawai`i, some use smiley faces, some use a combination of these.
Off the board, we communicate with different people in different ways. When No`eau & I play music together, a simple nod of the head can mean many different musical cues, but when we are "in the zone," there's no confusion.
With Momi, a very subtle twitch of my eyes will tell her to look in a certain direction, to see something unusual across the road; or I can say a single specific word, knowing that it will tell her volumes.
Communication. It's what we do among all the members of our species, as well as with other ones. It's all "educated" because it all comes from a life's worth of learning.
I'm here - on my computer, at TaroPatch, in my life, on this planet - to learn. Keep teaching me, friends.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 07/01/2008 6:44:32 PM
Message:Eh braddah Petah! Yea, uz ducktahs ged way wid werds no? Eh I nokea eef u no ged formal duktah, u always Duktah Medeiros to me!!
Buh nah, mah eengleeh eez junk. I woz dreenkeen beeya wid plenneh emotional ehnahgee an woz playin kihoalu from memory of yo ole blue prints wit improvize kine stuff. Anywayz, can edit da pos' fo make em moah hi volic fo one akchual dissertashun. Bud az woz nuff. Buh, jalike slack key no? Gahddah tahk from da haht az bes eengleesh az can. I like rite fo undastandeen not fo confrontashun. Dees way moah beddah. Buh long ago, mah eengleeh woz junk, so I read da dikshunary, poket book kine front to back. I feegah, dey like tahk "English", I wipe u guys out! Buddah hed no? Azz y haahd!
Some guyz steh teenkeen, hahcome I swich spelleengs? Coz jalike slack key, can switch da style on da fly. No ged me wrong, I not good playah! Nah like Guava-man.
Eh Braddah Pete, jalike mah Hawaiian frien hu no can dive, eef I woz in Hawaii on beeg Isle, I go tell u, eh brah, wot kine feesh yu like I speeya? I ged em fo u brah, no worrehz. Kole, U’u, aweoweo, manini, aholehole, pakuikui, maiko, moi (goddah get luck fo dis one), Uhu, Nenue, Pualu (da meat paht good fo poke eef not touch da guts paht). Ulua, luckeh luckeh fo cach, an goddah tess fo cigua. U like yellow kine opihi, I no wea steel ged. Fo da guy hu make da blue preents an wen introduce me how fo play da nice kihoalu ... wotevah u like brah!! I ged em!! Oh an on my moddah propatee, ged wile cheeken runnin aroun, I make shua nobodeh poison grass befoe I cach em. heheh!
Retro: u can sho me how fo catch feesh in Iowa? An wea fo go? Da pon an lakes no moah wave so kaina deefren no? No moah shahks, no moah puhi, buh ged snappin turdles.
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 07/01/2008 7:55:42 PM
Message:The thing with pidgin, is to be succinct. In Thailand, Italy, Germany, Louisiana I used 'pidgin Italian', i.e. anything to get the point across. When speaking to a German in Italy I'de use Italian, German, and English. Mixed in Napoleonic French, English, Spanish (maybe catalan, or...) in Louisiana. My great, great great grandfather was hired from China to Hilo (to work the Chinese sugar plantation) because he could speak Hakka, Mandarin, and....oh, hell, Chinese; plus, he knew the recipe for making sugar AND he could write da kine scratches. BUT, he had to speak English, Hawaiian, Chinese, Japanese, Portuguese, and Filipino (lucky those from India and Cuba were few in the 'hood) PLUS understand Scottish brogue because many of the plantation supers were from Scotland.
"Pidgin" was the language in our general store for the neighbors use wen they buy supplies from us, especially dem guys transitioning from plantation life to life in the US Territory of Hawaii. And, as many of the immigrants were speakers, not writers, idioms and nemonic "watevahs" that worked in the 'hood DID NOT work in the 'hoods of odda ahupuaa, like Hilo no match wit Waimanalo; Kailua Kona no work in Lahaina. Kauai was different. Asz wy pidgin wen work back in 1947.
Today, the kine island pidgin dis makule grow up wit no match 2008 Hawaii pidgin AND hard for me comprehend da kine syntax in use. Guave Ed I can understand, pictorially. I no need READ his pidgin; I can see um. Noeau pidgin... I godda tink liddle bit fo cognitive connection. Da bestest, is wen we face-to-face and pound da pidgin.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 07/01/2008 9:47:44 PM
Message:Man, you guyz write da kine PHD pidgin liʻdat. Hoof hearted, eyef hearted. So now I get it das one good one fo me. We always lerneeng new stuffs o hea! E menpachi, if you no can ovah come da guava guy I like your guitar so I can rekamembah you. My moddah use to say e, no make trouble you going feel sorry bumby eef you mek liʻdat. An no worry Baritone stay my fren so he no mean no hahm. Tanks enyway.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 07/02/2008 06:24:51 AM
Message:
quote:Most likely, it was somewhere along the Des Moines or Raccoon Rivers, before they came through the city. But that would have been in the early 1960s; I'd hesitate to eat something from those rivers these days (particularly with the fertilizer runoff post-flooding). I know that we used to eat catfish from the Mississippi, back in the days when you could practically wade halfway out into the river (until you hit the ship canal dredged in the middle - which is much wider these days); this would have been down near Keokuk.
Originally posted by Menpachi Man
Retro: u can sho me how fo catch feesh in Iowa? An wea fo go? Da pon an lakes no moah wave so kaina deefren no? No moah shahks, no moah puhi, buh ged snappin turdles.
Reply author: cpatch
Replied on: 07/02/2008 06:33:04 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Menpachi Man
buh ged snappin turdles.
Snappin turdles? Plenty of those near any sewer outlet!
Reply author: Mika ele
Replied on: 07/02/2008 07:10:33 AM
Message:E Petah. Evuh tink dey goin staht one kine class fo study Pidgin at UH? Dey got plenny kine class fo learn 'Olelo. Now wat kine Politco problems dat cauz?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/02/2008 08:07:48 AM
Message:No my plate stay full already. I did six years community service in da ol' days and I no it haz a high opportunity cost. Rite now fo send my kid to NYU is costing us one Mercedez per year, daz wid out gaz. She iz doing great ova dea so we sendin her back fo next two and a half years -- she will finish up early.
I could make an argument for such a program and leverage it with local students asking "yeah how come no moa pidgin studies?" There already is a substantial body of data on hand from sociology, ethnic studies, linguistics, history and anthropology. There are no guarantees, but it will take a long time to get it through. I can only speak from my experience here at UH. I first started teaching non-credit courses in 1972 when I was a student at UH. My tenure as Faculty/Staff (as an educational specialist) with the Music Department started in 1982. Although the studies and curriculum submissions to change the status to an accredited program were made around 1980 by Dr. Barbara Smith, PhD., she was my mentor while I was on grant at the East West Center's Cultural Learning Insitute, the UH board of Regents did not act upon it until 1998. A period of 18 years. And by this time I was diagnosed with cancer. So the job went to Oz, who I mentored, and who was the best choice, but things didn't work out so well so he left after the first year of accreditation. So the job was offered to me along with the Hawaiian Ensembles when I returned from sick leave. It takes a long time for a program to get accreditation. There are a lot of politics going on and not enough money for all of the programs.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 07/02/2008 09:24:43 AM
Message:Great. We lose the Pidgin and gain Legalese. Not an improvement to the thread.
Reply author: PearlCityBoy
Replied on: 07/02/2008 09:33:23 AM
Message:Howzit Brahdah Duke,
Wow lau lau, I figgah I bettah jump in fo get counted on your list before dis tread get too huhu and da buggah been shut down. Scary ting is I akchooley wen follow almost erry post cause pidgin was what us guyz wen talk in da streets Pearl City side. Mebbee moah scary ting is dat I wen even undastan Contemplative Menpachi's dissertation--wuz right on top da money, brah!
Howevas, one ting I like trow inside dis discushen for erryone fo tink about is dat no get too tight bebadeez about some of da diffarent commentz and poinz of vues, exspecially when you nevah meet da kine in person. Mos erry buggah I wen meet off Taropatch (I stay meet plenny), stay good peepos, no mattah weah dey from. Pua Kai inclooded, who I wen meet at Uncle George's workshop las year. No need pile on--she get plenny aloha. Bruddah Hiram Bell too--super talented kanaka, plenny misudastood if you nevah meet him, akamai, chillarious, good kine guy. Sheesh, even you and Braddah Jay stay good kine folks dispite da fact you guyz from town side
Anyhowz, jus my 2-centz worth. No need fo get to trow blows stage if get stuffs we no agree wit, jus loosen da bebadeez lil bit. Been enjoying da talk story in dis tread, but I no moah too much time fo write much. Gotta spend da time fo practiss ki'hoalu and also fo break Guinness world records.
Aloha,
Doug
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 07/02/2008 10:26:58 AM
Message:
quote:You shuah? It might just be the smart/clever guy that follows three other ones.
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Da werd "fortwit" is pidgin fo "forthwith".
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/02/2008 10:34:09 AM
Message:No dat won is called nit, coz he stay following da udda wons.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 07/02/2008 11:06:41 AM
Message:Okay, I waited a couple of days before wading into this thread. I saw Nancy's post, knew it was going to cause an uproar, and instead of making myself mad by keeping up with the thread, I just left it for a few days. My rule is if I can't post with aloha, I don't post. Please do not interpret that as an admonition to those who didn't wait - I completely understand the impulse.
Glennpachi has chosen to out his educational credentials, so I will too. I have a law degree. After passing the bar in two states, I decided not to practice law after all (I joke that I am unemployable in two jurisdictions). I am a woefully overqualified legal secretary, but I enjoy my job and the people I work with, so I count myself lucky (especially since I've finally paid off my student loans).
I will never disown my pidgin roots. I was lucky enough to know two of my great grandmothers, both first-generation Okinawan immigrants. The best English they could muster was pidgin. All four grandparents spoke pidgin, even the two who were teachers. One grandmother, who only has an eighth grade education, left school to work to help her family. She raised two of her husband's siblings as her own, in addition to her two birth kids. She may be "uneducated," but she's one of the smartest people I know and one of my heroes.
I've never met Nancy, but I've communicated with her off board, and I like her. Having calmed down a bit, I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. Most of the time, when a thread gets incendiary, I just leave it alone because I'm not good at putting things diplomatically like Gregg (and frankly, I'm not brave enough). This one hit a little too close to home for me to leave it alone.
'kay, den, nuff arready. Somboddy han me one cold one. Eh, Glenpachi, wat you wen catch lately? Get nuff wattah wea you stay, mus get someting fo catch o wat? An stay hot enuf wea Guava stay, he can fry 'em fo yu!
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 07/02/2008 11:14:22 AM
Message:
quote:One cold one WAT? You no drink beeyah. Chry wait, chry wait - I getchu one watah.
Originally posted by Momi
Somboddy han me one cold one.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/02/2008 11:59:10 AM
Message:Eh,how long you was living wid her anden, get her won beeyah an while you atit get me won too.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 07/02/2008 12:26:51 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
So no mind me. I just da janitah around heyah.
Eh, I still remembah da janitahs at my old elemtry school, brah. Dey was Mrs. Mahelona, Mrs. Lee, and Mrs. Silva. Dose ladies always took kea me.
My faddah used to tell me no be high makamaka around da janitahs. Dey da ones get da real powah. Dey can eidda make yo life mo easy oa misrable.
Wat, reddy fo one noddah one, brah? Like me pass da pupus o wat?
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 07/02/2008 1:05:56 PM
Message:I get one Associate degree from a community college. That's such a useful degree, I dunno even where the piece of paper is anymore.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 07/02/2008 2:16:17 PM
Message:
quote:Wow - latest weather info from Daboonies, WA, says "100 degrees." Hope your a/c's working better this year.
Originally posted by guavasunrise
I get 98.6 degrees.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 07/02/2008 5:14:29 PM
Message:Bla always did undah rate hisself- he tink he junk, peopo onleh lissen cuse ob da faddah. Mebbe he stay da bes toilet cleanh in da lan; but me I tink he stay one mean slat key playah too- ebben wen get a couple too many...
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 07/02/2008 5:27:46 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Momi
Eh, Glenpachi, wat you wen catch lately? Get nuff wattah wea you stay, mus get someting fo catch o wat? An stay hot enuf wea Guava stay, he can fry 'em fo yu!
I no catch noteeng good o hea. Oh wait, one time I catch bass, plenneh perch jalike mamo. One time catch catfeesh.
Da watah all paluted now. Moah beddah no catch noteeng. So wot den? U an Retro like go feesheeng wid me wen I go home? I go take u guyz gasagasa kine place.
I comeeng down from one manic phase goin into da low faze. I no can beleeve da stuff my altah-egos steh pos'. From pompos to elegant to vulgah to beef kine stuff to lolo to ahdonno wot. Buh fo u guyz no undastan me, I no like beef. I cheeken manua fo beef. Az all tahkeen play kine stuff but yea no can see da smile so going soun like fo realz. Sorreh! I realleh am socially retarded. Now humbug, coz I steh wait fo Baritone fo go slap me on da hed an ahdunno wen going come. Buh Al wen step in fo slap mah hed so dat woz good.
Momi, u won lawyah? Hoh, I shoudah led u write my legalese to Guava man.
So den Guava-man, I woz goin fo realz clean yo geetah, u neva peek up on dat. High gloss! heheh.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 07/02/2008 5:48:20 PM
Message:Eh wea da hawaiian wimpy? you forgot gladly.I rememba wen I was da janitah at like like elementary,da same school my wife teaches at,also da same school all tree of my kids went to.Anyway funny how da kids look up to you,"hello mr barino","mr barino can you tell him fo leave us girls alone"etc.There was one boy who I felt just needed da right kind of guidance,he lost his mother while she was dilivering his baby sistah,his fadah wen remarry,and his two oldah braddahs always stay pickin on him,usually wit one slap to da head.He just nevah had someone to look up to,anyway he always use to get into fights at school,except wit my son aleka.Das probably cause aleka treats everyone wit respect,I won't have it any other way.So one day I mention to dis boy dat aleka studies judo,and dat since joining judo his work ethics change foa da bettah.I was willing to pay foa eryting,if he was willing to try his best.Well I ended up gettin scoldings from my son aleka,he said "dad how come you wen tell uriah I stay in judo" I told him how it might help him da way it help you,why? to which he replied "sensei john said dat we're not supposed to brag" I told him it's not braggin if you're trying to help someone like his friend,just da look on my son face seein how helping someone is a good ting.At dat age dey still innocent,well some.Janitahs can have an impact,wit alot of single parents,and some just too busy or selfish,da janitahs da man in school.Dat boy is now big and still kolohe,and even tho he nevah did join judo,wen he sees me it's still "hi mr barino" Aloha braddah jay
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/02/2008 6:54:48 PM
Message:Eh, Chris. Bla don't tink he junk. He just not da same kind guuitar playah as his daddy or braddahs. Part coomes from being left handed, makes for a unique sound to begin with when playing upside down kine. But Bla is very individual. He loves the old Hawaiian music, but he likes to play a great variety of other stuff as well. He loves do-wop especially. And he can sing falsetto, he can sing like the Gabby growly voice. He can sing rock & roll, country, whatevah. Some people get disappointed because he is not a Gabby clone. If they want to lissen Gabby, buy Gabby music. If want to lissen Bla, k den. And Bla no mo drink. He very healthy and looks so good. He steh 66 years old dis year. No wrinkles. No bags undah his eyes.
And he ste workin on one new CD, all exciting stuff he planning for it. And he going be at da Gabby Fest Waimanalo in August.
And dat janitor job, at leas he can be retired from it and now make dakine music he like without worrying about kowtowing to da luna fo have to earn money feed da wife and kitties.
and he got one beautiful heart. Full of aloha.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 07/02/2008 7:29:39 PM
Message:I'm not so good with numbers, but kinda decent with grammar.
quote:Can we make that "10 or fewer posts"?
Originally posted by sirduke58
24-35 approx. 180 membahs.........10 or less posts
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 07/03/2008 04:31:27 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Retro
Great. We lose the Pidgin and gain Legalese. Not an improvement to the thread.
My lub po pi'gin mo beeg den da mango tree. Asz wy pidgin good: show da retro dat godda do fo retard to make clear da excepcion. Dat way, no can get mistake! Waz pidgin wen go modify us from wala au to divorce pepa, land ownership, etc. I tell you guz: I honored fo make concecion from makule kine pidgin to today's mo'den Pidgin dat you guyz stay expose to da universe fo electro wave my brain to da mo 'smut' level. How mo poetic a medium fo exprescion!
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 07/03/2008 05:27:29 AM
Message:Eh, Menpachi-san!!! You mo goodah fee'sha'man den you tink, Brah! Look da string of "Suckas" you wen catch! Da 98 degree kine, da lawyah kine, da huhu kine.... You get goood hauna-bait! If wuz limu, den yu get Anae; hauna-bait can catch the bottom-feedas!
Which reminds me of won "Janitah" job I had! I had good fun Janitah at Kamehameha School. Part-time job, back UH days I wuz up dea pic'ing rubbish on Sunday. Wit da ga'bge truck! Go round collect from da cans, ly dat. So... Dis one time I pull out of da garage with da truck. I nevah know had ku-ka-pyla opala insy, awready. So I go up da hill in 2nd ge'a. But, stay get hard time mo-up da hill. Fortunately, or unfortunately, the axis of the truck wuz inline with the road, perfectly. Plus, I stop fo da keeds in da crosswalk; you know, goin Sunday school class. So, I down sheef to 1st ghia. At that time had keeds in the crosswalk in front da truck; afta dey walk I go forward. Man I wen weewee, kaka, hearted my pants coz I wen wheelie da garbage truck till the back part, wea you put da opala insy, wen touch da pavement. Huli liddle bit rubbish on da road. Auwe! Da teacha wit da keeds AND da keeds wen go panic. Hea I stay wit da truck okole on da ground and the front up in da ae'a pointin to Aiea. Den, KA-0BOOM da Bruggah wen go come down and puka da pavement (oh'ni liddle bit lua but high-makamaka's nevah like wat wen happen; teecha wen go tell). Course, nex day I wen get fired from garbage truck driving. I was stil on da job, doe. Had my dishrag, broom, mop, toilet brush, and nws'pepa fo wipe window.....
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 07/03/2008 06:08:07 AM
Message:
quote:We just call him MultiPachi.
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Like your doctah dissertation altah ego can go sign off using Einsteinpachi, da lolo altah ego can use Lolopachi, da one case beeyah altah ego Pilutpachi, la dat. Adono how many oddah altah ego pachi's you might get going on behind da scenes brahquote:Well --- this is the "Broken English" thread, yeah? Watchoo expeck?
Originally posted by guavasunrisequote:Aisos. Now we get Grammar Police getting in da ack.
Originally posted by Retro
Can we make that "10 or fewer posts"?quote:Somehow, that seems appropriate...
Originally posted by Baritone
da mo 'smut' level
Reply author: cpatch
Replied on: 07/03/2008 06:39:03 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrisequote:Aisos. Now we get Grammar Police getting in da ack.
Originally posted by Retro
Can we make that "10 or fewer posts"?
If someone could translate this request to legalese and then translate that to pidgin it would be the perfect post.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 07/03/2008 07:54:38 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by cpatchquote:
Originally posted by guavasunrisequote:Aisos. Now we get Grammar Police getting in da ack.
Originally posted by Retro
Can we make that "10 or fewer posts"?
If someone could translate this request to legalese and then translate that to pidgin it would be the perfect post.
I think it might translate into a simple, slightly-back, twitch of the head. Dunno how to spell that.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/03/2008 07:56:04 AM
Message:Craig,
Would be kinda hahd fo makem purfec coz get so many dialects yeah. Anden dey gonna be determined by da generation, den get da etnicity; den get da age; den get da geography,; den someguys gotta use dea handz and da odda guyz gotta use dea eyebrows, den someguyz gotta do da head flex. Bradda get all kine and dea all gonna be communicating someting. Mebbe not purfectly, bud dey gonna be communicating.
Fo instance wen you chai go back tru da tred you gonna nodice diz, get reel thin kine, medium kine and reel tick kine pidgin. Get town kine guys like me, Al, Ed, Duke and Jay; get country kine like Momi (Kaneohe Okinawan kind), Doug (Pearl City); get FBI kind (From Big Island -- which is really kind of like won nodda country) like Glenn, Baritone, and Chris; get FM kine (From Maui) like Poi Dog.
Bud if diz iz becoz you iz wonderin wot "Aisos" is, it means "Jesus". Am I making myself clea oa wot coz I don't no? Oa mebbe would you like me fo tryan explain again sometimes hahd to get da brain cells werkin in da morning. I can try latah today wen I get mo time now no mo time gotto go meat won student so he can chai pick my brain about slack key and life in general. Den again iznit da journey an not da destination oa someting lidat. Latahs.
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 07/03/2008 10:38:43 AM
Message:Memba, Meddie [Ho, Man, long time was wen I call da Lusitania guyz "Manny" and "Meddie" coz dey da gen'u'wine, Madeira (like "Medeiros") Port'choe vino's], how stay wuz, den time? Had Lusitania pidgin, Pauoa pidgin, Haleiwa pidgin, Laie pidgin, Chinatown - Alala Park pidgin (sorry, Guava, no had Kuliouou pidgin), St Louis Heights pidgin... I remember used to go Pauahi St barba fo hea the Filipino barba's talk pidgin and play "f" top guitar, ukulele, and mandolin jazz (any kine musice, actually) AND talk dea kine pidgin!! Try talk music-pidgin. NOW, get da kine kanaka maoli o Wakinikona!?! Taropatch pidgin, even. Main ting: you get da picture or pic'cha or mea .... Hana budda daze!!
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 07/03/2008 12:36:50 PM
Message:I beddah ste label all my pos from now.
---- Metaphoric-pachi ----
Baritone: Yea, fishaman goddah use anehkine bate no?, fo cach feesh. Can cach kala an pualu too. Befoe time had beeg kine anae. Kapoho sai, I useta speeya em too. Wailoa had plenneh guyz on da small kine boat ste chrai fo anae.
Yea, hauna bait good. Bud wen da bait an palu ste way too hauna, den da shahks come aroun an den da feesh run away. Den eef u ste dreenk too much beeya, u go teenk, "eh, moah beddah go speeya feesh". So u go insai, den wot u see? Plenneh shahks, beeg kine too. Can ged hurt espeshulleh eef da hauna steel ste on da bodeh. Nomo feesh. Den humbug fo come ouda watah. Jalike Al said, no do teengs u going regret. Mahalos fo not bak-hanning me from Hilo to Kona an back again!
----End Metaphor-Pachi.
Begin Metaphoric-Lolo-Unserious-Pachi ----
Guava Sunset. Yea u herd rite! Sunset, coz yo sun going set. Wot is dis Mahupachi nonsense?? U ste ack toff brah, but plenneh guyz ste tell dat u make plenneh okole-hau.
End LoloPachi
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 07/03/2008 1:37:51 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Rumahs brah, all rumahs! Not okolehau. Pineappo swipe! Da kine dey been teach me fo make insai...uhh...hehehe...neyamine...
Begin Einsteinpachi:
Your admission of said "pineappo swipe" indicates knowledge of a technologically advanced formulation which makes it an indubitable fact that your finesse and proficiency of so called "okolehau" is indeed not "rumahs".
End Einstein
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 07/03/2008 3:00:57 PM
Message:Soun li' guava mebbe nevah wen sail dem seben seas, an mebbe nebah wen go H.C.C- bu' perhaps he wen somewhere in between, Li mebbe "H"e wen sail da tree "C"'s? Not dat I goine fo admit I no noting bout swipes. Cept I "hea" uala work good too...
Wen I stay talk wi all da ol timahs in Waipi'o, seems befoa times ebery body wen stay make okolehau. Get plenny ti in da mountain- onli problem stay only get one way fo get down- da "Z-trail". An guarentee goine get one deputy stay wait at da bottom. Now dey wen use Kona nightinggale fo carry da bottles, cause horse not so good nightime. Da nightinggale she carry foah five gallon bottle. Now hea is da rub- da deputy, he like one. An da sherif, he goine need one too. Den da "mayor"- he goine want one. So onli get fo keep one bottle for oneself, an still get da Revenuers fo worry bout- no can jus give um one bottle, sides, no moa left if goine try. So still got to hide um.
Now my pilipino fren Takio/Pakayo whatevahs (he ol buggah, no moa teeth, har fo undastan anyways plus get some tick kine pidgin) he get one solushun. He dig one makun lua nighttime, all da lepo go in auwai an disappear. Ri dere in da maia patch behin his hale in da swamp. He stay on da high groun, so I guess no moa too much wai in da lua. Anyways, he covah da buggah wi da maia leaf, an onli run still dawn an dusk, burn onli maia leaf, so no moa smoke. He stay too ol fo go up in da mountain, sides, nebbah li share wi da law. Dat way he wen make plenny money prohibition time, nebbah have fo worry bout money aftah dat. I no cause bout 1980 or so he wen get bad gout, no could farm- I stay worried bout him, wen try fo give him some kala, help out. He no like, an mebbe I wen push a bit, so he wen pull out one cigah box, stay choke big bills. Kala no goine help him, he say, so i wen pull da weed in his garden nstead.
Long time latahs we wen get one tidal wave warning- he nevah like leave bu da police wen force him fo go in da helicopter. He nebbah wen fly befoa- I donno if he eben wen drive, wen he stay go to da stoa fo da wiskey an rice he always wen ride one horse. Anyways I waz dere wen dey wen drop him off at da lookout- white as a sheet- he onli wen grab one ting when he wen lef da hale- dat cigah box; he stay holding um like dat was his life...
Chris
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 07/03/2008 3:19:04 PM
Message:[quote]Originally posted by guavasunrise
[quote]Originally posted by Menpachi Man
Guava Sunset. Rumahs brah, all rumahs! Not okolehau. Pineappo swipe!
Minahs, Pachi! Handl da jokes coz match da pidgin-pic'cha story.
Unco Braddah Ed! You da mos'test! Da Pine'appo swipe. I wen try make em in the dorm. Durango Colorado, Ft Lewis College, stay wuz. Put da kalamea in the closet, on top da shelf. Four weeks bubbye, da kalamea stay half inch off da shelf, stuck on the wall. Jes like da menehune wen go come make spooky! I nevah make da-kine my pants BUT since I haole (stay spell korec?) to da area, I no say nuthin no-hau.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 07/03/2008 4:16:08 PM
Message:Miss a couple of days and almost die of eyestrain!
Eh, Mempach! You right, ki ho'alu is pidgin guitar. Adapting to surroundings. Az how new tunings 'come invented.
I, too, have a janitorial background and can swizzle a biffy with the best of them. Now I'm a Norwegian bachelor window washer. Go with dirt-- the world is made out of it and it will be back soon- job security.
Work is what you got to do, fun is what you get to do. Jus' press (Those in power say sometimes, "Jus' oppress.")
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 07/03/2008 5:46:47 PM
Message:Eh, Chris! You stay tell da trute. My Unco was policeman round pre-46. Side job he had, was one booze-bar. He own um in old Waiakea Town by Suisan. He had one "one-armed-bandit". Beautiful!! He wen confiscate from some lolo. Also had the Wurlitzer, beeg kine jukebox. Beautiful! Confiscated. After the beeg 46 Tsunami wave went through the bar, had kuka-pyla genu'wine okolehau and Cuba rum (I still get one quart with "Cuba" stamped unda'neet the bottle). Dasz how wuz, den, wit local law. Jus like Chinatown wen stay get Gung He Fat Choy and da dragon from da local Gung Fu dojo come by wit da dragon mout wide open fo "accept" da red envelope for "protection". Yeah, no!?! Our kumiai had okolehao, too, coming from "outsy sources".
Only wit pidjin can make ly dis..........
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/04/2008 10:53:20 PM
Message:Here is an interesting piece of case law regarding tax exemption on okolehao and fruit wines locally made in Hawai`i. The state had permitted an tax exemption of the 20% tax on liquor in order to offer a stimulus to local production of okolehao and, primarily pineapple swipe. The state upheld the exemption, but the Supreme Court reversed that decision as discriminatory.
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468 U.S. 263
BACCHUS IMPORTS, LTD., ET AL. v. DIAS, DIRECTOR OF TAXATION OF HAWAII, ET
AL.
APPEAL FROM THE SUPREME COURT OF HAWAII
No. 82-1565.
Argued January 11, 1984
Decided June 29, 1984
Hawaii imposes a 20% excise tax on sales of liquor at wholesale. But to encourage the development of the Hawaiian liquor industry, okolehao, a brandy distilled from the root of an indigenous shrub of Hawaii, and fruit wine manufactured in the State are exempted from the tax. Appellant liquor wholesalers, who sell to retailers at the wholesale price plus the tax, brought an action in the Hawaii Tax Appeal Court seeking a refund of taxes paid under protest and alleging that the tax is unconstitutional because it violates, inter alia, the Commerce Clause. The court rejected this constitutional claim, and the Hawaii Supreme Court affirmed, holding that the tax did not illegally discriminate against interstate commerce because the incidence of the tax is on the wholesalers and the ultimate burden is borne by consumers in Hawaii.
Held:
1. Appellants have standing to challenge the tax in this Court. Although they may pass the tax on to their customers, they are liable for it and must return it to the State whether or not their customers pay their bills. Moreover, even if the tax is passed on, it increases the price as compared to the exempted beverages, and appellants are entitled to litigate whether the tax has had an adverse competitive impact on their business. P. 267.
2. The tax exemption for okolehao and fruit wine violates the Commerce Clause, because it has both the purpose and effect of discriminating in favor of local products. Pp. 268-273.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 07/05/2008 08:42:50 AM
Message:--Einsteinpachi -----
No further elucidation of the term "boto" is deemed necessary as it was previously defined by our esteemed erudite scholar Sir Duke, whom by the way has researched quite extensively the term "boto". For others who remain untutored per the term "boto", I assure you that Dr. Sunrise has attained a Ph.D. in the subject matter of "boto" and is regarded as the world-wide expert of "boto", surpassing the knowledge-base of Sir Duke and Einsteinpachi. Therefore, statements such as "innocently clueless" should be considered as gross misrepresentation of his credentials in the subject of "boto"; more so when associated with "okole-how" and "swipes".
----- End Einstein
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 07/05/2008 12:29:43 PM
Message:If no more boto, can get um in a can?
Paul
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 07/06/2008 05:29:16 AM
Message:Eh, Paul, mo' bettah you talk to Wanda's people about "fruit jar" etc.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/06/2008 06:36:48 AM
Message:I remember small kid time, my daddy and Uncle Harvey pouring something into the creek and then takinn to the hills. Then next thing we knew, the "law" was there looking for daddy and Uncle Harvey. I think they stayed up in the hills for about a week. Was dry counties down there and I guess they were, ahem, thirsty. I'm not shua how many crawdads in the creek were killed. But I don't think they had a still. It was something they were cooking up that had raisins in it. I do not think it was rice pudding.
Plenny other people had stills, and for the most part, no law came. If the people down there were poor, no tax money to the town or county government, either. They really did not bother, too much about it. Periodically there would be federal guys - revenooers make some surprise visits. And yeah, mason jars were the container of choice. Nobody had those clay brown jugs like the song. Nobody had that, but they all canned fruits and veggies, so plenny empty mason jars. Also, they all grew corn in abundance, so easy for make the mash for the corn likker. Heck, they even nowadays sell cans of mash in the grocery stores. Perhaps that is how the hillfolk learned their chemistry instead of going to school? Learned engineering techniques from building the still; chemistry from the cooking, fermenting and distillation process. Learned survival skills from hiding out in the hills so the law would not haul them away. Learned supply side economics. Lots of important lessons there.
Like daddy gets mean when he is drunk.
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 07/06/2008 1:48:58 PM
Message:My family made wine. Frequently refered to by other folks as "Dago Red". Ma talked about how good it tasted when they first pressed the grapes, and how bad it was after fermenting into wine. I recall a story about one of Dad's brothers getting drunk enough to get sick on his dad's wine. Never did hear what Grandma had to say about the deal. Some things wasn't said around us yuong'uns.
Paul
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/08/2008 02:00:49 AM
Message:Dis tread goin pau ip no mo postin. No let dis tread go makeh, I tot was goin set one recohd, yeah?
Tell us wot fort o July like in Hawai`i. Good holiday or bad holiday for Hawaiians?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/08/2008 04:48:29 AM
Message:Not my mout droolin obah dat. Raw fish skeh me. Nevah like get no disease or anyting lidat. Cannot get fresh, fresh, fresh fish ovah heah. Who knows how old by time it gets to Cleveland. Cannot make out of local fish, because da mercury an oddah chemicals are bad.
I tink my Sam Choy cookbook have recipe for seared poke or some kine cooked poke. Got choke Sam Choy poke recipes.
Reply author: cpatch
Replied on: 07/08/2008 08:55:43 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
Dis tread goin pau ip no mo postin. No let dis tread go makeh, I tot was goin set one recohd, yeah?
This thread's going to have a hard time beating the Seattle thread...that one's only got a couple more pages but three times the number of views!
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 07/08/2008 09:24:53 AM
Message:Howzit cpatch,no need break record yeah,seattle had planny audience,but da ratio is da one,das da whole point,das why called talk story,and not read story.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/08/2008 10:17:20 AM
Message:No dis tread not pau, jez restin. Diz iz won long distance race not won sprint. Anda journey haz brought togedda many pepo who woulda neva gotten togedda atal cept fo won chance fo wala`au wid da odda guyz ova da sea. Fo da laz tree weeks I've been so busy fo won sick guy.
Fo me, rite now I wen back to my office afta seven monts sick leave. I go back oni to find dey are doing major renovations to my bilding anden I gotto go move my office to da udda side of da music complex. Da fardest office away from wea my office stay. Hard yeah, nowadays I godda walk wid won cane. Da walking iznt so bad, da stumbling anden da fall, dat iz hard. I walk jez like won old man now coz of da chemo.
Yestaday I wen talk to Keola D who waz on sabbatical in Aotearoa, we both wen find get plany work fo do wen come back to work. So I can get jez da firz book out -- da metod won -- fo da guyz jez starting out I got ukupaila work to do diz mont. I wen finish alla da editing laz mont, dis mont is layout.
Doing da layout iz not so easy, it takes a lotta time anden. Da second won, da antology iz won of tree, gotta wait in line until da firz won stay pau yeah. Anden yestaday Keola wen go ax if need help on da `oleo Hawai` anden. Sheez toogood anden but I don't no if I can afford anymore delays. Dis tings gotta puka tru, bud dey gotta puka tru jez rite yeah. So I tink I'm gonna takem up on it bud da stuff has to happen reel faz coz schools gonna staht pretty soon.
Den laz week anden I had a request by HARAS guys fo help dem set da guidlines lidat fo da slack key award fo da Hoku's lidat. Dey wen ax a numba of teachas anden playas, "Aloha kâua you guyz, wot you tink..." So I godda get dat won done by next week. I normally work inda background but in my line of work diz iz pretty serious stuff-- about az serious as it getz --so I kenna takem lightly coz it might affect tings way down da line despite da best intentions. I no likem get F up, den slack key iz really gonna disapea. Da udda reason I wen back to my office iz dat get ea conditioner yeah, my house no moa, gotta open da windo, but wen get kona weda no mo wind blowing Kaneohe. so openin da windo doesn't help.
So anywayz da tred not pau anda race not ova until we say so. And nobody wen say itz ova yet, so brudda don't hold your bret coz you gonna choke. So you can eda help, oa go make trouble. But befoa you do eda won chai look at da list of contributas da Hawai`i, Mid-West anda Seattle guyz stay in dis to da max. Califrisco anden San Diego guyz not so much. Da east Coast guyz stay on vacation. Why not chancem, we not goin eat you guyz -- at least not nowadayz. We get plany poke an beah. We jez like talk story anden. So you kenna talk pidgin, so wot!! I don't think to many guyz care how you like talk story az long az you not putting anybody down. Datz wen it getz nasty and we don't want oa need dat hea.
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Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/08/2008 11:29:02 AM
Message:Keola would be home now, yeah? Hooeee, dat is fah away. I like dem kine tattoos dey have obah deah. I dunno if Keola like join us ovah heah, since he da `olelo luna. Wot you tink? He goin' wala`au or he goin' give dirty lickins us haoles makin mess o da pidgin?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/08/2008 12:08:32 PM
Message:Nah, I don't tink so. But Wanda like me he get plany werk fo catchup on. Let me tell you dat university werk sometimes iz quite formidable, anden wen you been out fo awhile n it piles up lidat you mite not be seen fo weeks.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 07/08/2008 1:56:26 PM
Message:Eh, GuavaEd! Da pitchah of poke made me ono foa pickled herring (Norwegian breath mints), da bes' t'ing foa eat wit' pia an' crackers or hardtack.
Wanda, my family in da ol' country were 1) goat an' cow herders, 2) cheesemakers, an' 3) moonshiners only dey wen' call'em "brandvin".
Humanity, only da accent changes, life an' jokes da same.
Peter, what kine celebration you want when dis t'read ovatake da "Seattle Experiment"?
Reply author: Mika ele
Replied on: 07/08/2008 1:57:55 PM
Message:Eh petah,
Iben reedin da met-o-dology puka alova gen. Dis buggah iz GOOD. No can figguh out why no can keep stuff insi fo long time. I must be one lolo kane. If I ken help you in any way let me know.
See there? San Diego kine Kaleponi guyz in hea choo!
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 07/08/2008 2:57:45 PM
Message:Cuz I goin stoah,you like go owat? = Excuse me,I'm going to the store,would you like to go? Or are you busy with something right now? Same meaning jus said differently.The economy of speach,das what it is.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 07/08/2008 3:42:54 PM
Message:In reply to Guava's lass pos'... @ #$%^^ ^&*$# @ %^ #$%^^&^&& @ #$%
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/08/2008 3:45:29 PM
Message:Ed - you are even making me hungry, even though I cooked a marvelous heart healthy dinner today. Greek Lemon-Dill chicken salad with sliced tomatoes and gahlic bread (that was not heart healthy at all). For dessert, a blueberry/french vanilla parfait made from fat free cream cheese, sugar free/fat free french vanilla pudding made with skim milk and fat free cool whip. I made a blueberry slurry out of fresh blueberries, sugar, a wee bit of water and cornstarch to thicken. Layered pudding stuff and blueberry stuff and put a blob of cool whip on top. Tasted mighty fine, but the manapua looks way more better. Too bad dim sum get too much salt. Shoyu does not fit on my diet. Soon, though, I am going to rebel and go for dim sum. Az y hahd.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/08/2008 3:46:43 PM
Message:Glenn - you need da rubbah slippah on yo okole. Go wash you mout wit soap.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 07/08/2008 3:54:54 PM
Message:Okay, you two warubozu, I settin' da fiya hose on you:
You makin' erryboddy `ono fo' da kine!
Sigh. I like one shave ice now . . .
Wit' da sno cap, mo `ono.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 07/08/2008 5:09:27 PM
Message:Menpachi-
I feelin fo you- no moa fish I like eat obah hea. Da buggah stay slimy- you try look, get pull date li' five day from now, already ben in da stoa fo couple-tree days, an who nos wen dey wen catch... No can, me.
Try go KTA in Hilo, if no wen catch da ahi las night goine mark um down already, an still no one like buy!
Still, I get one question- fo why you need papio an ulua too?
Chris
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 07/08/2008 5:52:22 PM
Message:For his birfday, GS stay torturing all of us. I wen eat dinnah arready an den. Da ony consolation is he stay torturing himself too.
Dat Mui Kwai ginjah chicken is da best. Sigh. At least I get Kauai Kookies for dessert! An I get some really `ono dates dat one totful lady wen bring back from her vacation as omiyage fo us!
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 07/08/2008 8:59:02 PM
Message:E das one crool ting fo make us all hongry liʻdat. As wot I miss up heah hahd fo find da kine good kine noodle wit da right texture and flavah. Even da manook funny kine aftah cook. Get weird texcha and stuff. Me i would make my own gau gee and won ton and saimin fo grind. And I would make chicken black bean and you know. But when you make piccha and no can find one restaraunt that can make liʻdat das even mo worse.
E Guava jelly no pipi kū fo you!
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 07/08/2008 10:29:56 PM
Message:Braddah ed,I thought I saw da manapua man da adda day,false alarm was one pake lady wit da long stick and two bags of cans and plastic bottles for recycle,man how many years since da manapua man?I rememba kam housing wit da manapua man,he knew me good enough fo credit.and dat delite ice cream truck,oh yeah.Chocolate dip vanilla cone,and da round ice cream sandwich.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 07/09/2008 02:49:17 AM
Message:Ho, stay lucky I wen eat at da "all you can eat" Chinee buffet las night- no moa ono kine lidat but not bad. Get pleny o dose roun hea- an plenny moa kine buffet too. Das why Michigan stay get da heavyest buggahs in da world, average kine. Me, I like um cause some cheap, an no need grine again foa anoddah day oa two aftahs. Dey no pay too good roun hea li dey do in Hawai'i..
Menpachi: "y u ax?" Das jus cause papio an ulua stay same kine fish, an you wen mention both. No need papio if get ulua- let da little buggah go an grow up! Den panko da big brudda an dip um in differen kine sauce. But omilu- das anoddah storeh! Das da one you jus li charcoal um, no moa noting on top. Onli ting, dey stay so beautiful in da kai stay hard fo spear um- but wen hook up, I goine grine um...
Chris
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/09/2008 07:55:19 AM
Message:Dear Chris
You definately one FBI guy. Yoa syntax anden da spalling iz purfek on diz won, yu no mine I gotta start using diz won. if you do mine ainokea.quote:
Originally posted by ypochris
Menpachi: "y u ax?"
Dear Ed,
You doing real good ova dea. Already I wen gain 20 lbs since yestaday. Cozayu we goin smoke da udda tred. Good job brudda asda cando spirit.
PMquote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Eh...I jahs wen notice dat dis thread stay on page 44...da same page numbah as da ancient "Seattle Petrie Dish".
You guys ready fo dig past dem makules?
"Okay gangie, paddles out!! HUT!! HO!!"
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/09/2008 3:29:37 PM
Message:Brudda Ed,
Tanks ah bud no. My gout makes it hahd fo walk anden as won Hawaiian my diabetes stay killing me. I gotta watch wot I eat, aldo I gotta atmit as I was driving to my oncologist dis mohning I was dreaming of da okazuya from Furuya's in Moili`ili wea I been going jez like all my life yeah. I gotta lose weight oa die, Sheeze i jez wen pau chemo anden. Kenna win man.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 07/09/2008 4:53:43 PM
Message:Pulusami da bomb. Das why wen I wen go talk bout emu. I wen pu da fresh niu in da laulau. Eberyting stay mo bettah wi da niu!
Far as dose viruses dey try fo cook up in Seattle, oa whatevahs dey stay doing ovah dea, Inokea. Das cause stay all like- we goine play da 12'th, I no can, goine try- lidat. No moa li dis one, all kine good story an recipie an funny joke an all kine stuffs. Boring, da experiment- mebbe da viruses nevah wen grow or somting.
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/09/2008 5:07:43 PM
Message:For those like me who do not know what is pulusami -- here goes.
Imu-less Pulasami or Lu
Traditionally, instead of the taro leaves being minced and mixed into the Lu, the coconut cream mixture is spooned by individual servings into a whole taro leaf which is folded around it, after which the whole packet is wrapped in a banana leaf which is secured shut with a banana leaf rib. These packets are then baked in the traditional imu along with meats or seafood and starchy vegetables like plantain, breadfruit and taro root. The taro leaf wrapper is eaten, but not the banana leaf, and one dips one’s slices of breadfruit and taro into it. This version, which we enjoyed at Teesa’s Barefoot Bar in Alega Beach, American Samoa, is suitable for “home” use!
8-12 young taro leaves *(or spinach)
½ onion chopped
½ tsp salt
½ cup thick coconut cream
Finely mince the taro leaves (or spinach). Mix with other ingredients.
Place in a pot and cook for 10-15 minutes OR put in a casserole and bake in an oven for one hour.
An atmospheric way to serve pulasami would be spooned into a half a coconut shell.
Variations: In the Samoas and Tonga, Lu is often combined with canned meats or fish, eg. Corned beef, mackerel, chicken or lamb. Of course, the same can be done with “real” meat and fish (as was done at Teesa’s), a tasty use for leftovers!
*Remember: The taro leaf cannot, under any circumstances, be eaten raw.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/09/2008 8:29:05 PM
Message:Nah you gedem right brah. U no me when U get old da brain come fuzzy, budatleese I wen ged five outta six. I haven't been able to go dea since laz novemba. Da udda pot ad da probem stay is I tink I still get da chemo brain.
Iz bad espacially wen I stay drivin da ka`a. Wen supposed to go straight I ged in da lane to turn right oa turn lef. Won time had won red stop light on School Street. Waz nitetime oni me on da road. I go stop at da lite coz waz red ah, couple seconds latah I go drive tru jez like won stop sign. Da lite waz still red. I neva tink aboudem until I waz going up Likelike. Daz chemo brain.
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Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/09/2008 9:41:10 PM
Message:Maruzen and Kuhio Grill waz da bomb. Yeah da hamburger steak, da brown gravy wid da onions anden wid da potato salad an fruit punch nobody could touch dat. Alla da kepani food waz real good coz had alla da kepani students living ova dea. Now get Moili`ili Community Center ova dea.
Kuhio Grill daz won nodda story by itself. My dad would take us dea alla da time wen I was growing up, I used to go UH Lab school up da street. Waz jez like eating at home but had betta dessert anden neva had to clean dishes. Da pork chops anden da veal cutlets I would get everytime fo yeahs. Anden wen I wen UH an waz of age dats wen I wen learn why my fada took us dea alla time had alla da pupus anda inu waz cheap.
KG's waz da best by far den any udda place I wen go drink anden eat, anden go talk story. Alla my frends lidat we would go meet ova dea maybe leave six o`clock anden staga out afta midnite. I waz so lucky I neva wen get won DUI alldoz yeahs. I'm paying da price now doe my liva is shot so I kenna drink anymo.
Had won nodda place jez up da road called Sei's . Waz almos by Humane Society. It waz won off campus dorm anden. Da food waz homestyle cooking jez like KGs dey were good. My wife and I useto go dey alla da time. She wen turn me on to da place. Waz won place she useto go wen she waz in law school afta dey wen close KGs down. Bud like KGs dey had too close down too coz da landlord like mo money. Kenna find places like dat anymo, but I rememba dem an I rememba how good da mamasan's could cook. Dea would be lines to get into deez places.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/10/2008 01:36:15 AM
Message:Braddah Ed: I would have to use spinach. No mo lu`au leaves ovah hea. When it says thick coconut cream, does that mean the stuff inna can? I think the lite cocnut milk inna can nomo work in dis recipe. No taro leaves for wrapping in. But got banana leaves in da freezah I use when make laulau mainland style substitute kine.
Shootz. Now I have taste for laulau. Gotta figgah low-fat, low-salt way. Hungry now.
Peter dear - I do not think that is chemo brain. I think it is getting older, because I the same way. Paul, too. And luckily we nevah had chemo. Back long ago when my ma had colon cancer and was getting chemo, nevah make anyting wrong her brain, make oni sick, sick, sick trow up. Had to take opium suppositories for pain cos nomo keep down pills for pain. Da livah chrai get rid o all da poinsins in da body and chemo one majah poison. I guess alcohol one poison to da livah, too.
But you know, come to think of it, when I firs came home from hospito aftah my heart surgery, I was "fuzzy headed". I tink maybe pain meds??? I could not even concentrate to read a book, so Paul would read me a book liddobit ere night. So since you are workiin on dat book, sounds like nomo chemo brain. You got too much brain full of impohtan stuffs for teach.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/10/2008 04:46:56 AM
Message:If you live away from Hawai`i and nomo access to kalo leaves -- try go to Bahama Breeze Restaurant if you got one nearby. Here is a recipe from them. Can usually get pretty good fish there, too. Really, not bad for a chain restaurant. But those umbrella drinks cost plenty kala. But if you go to their web site, got choke recipes for food and drinks.
Creamed Spinach with Coconut Milk
Serves: 8
INGREDIENTS:
1/8 cup Olive Oil
1 cup sweet onions, ¼" diced
1 tbsp garlic, minced
16 oz spinach leafs, washed and rinsed
½ cups coconut milk
¼ tsp white pepper
½ tsp salt, add to taste
PREPARATION:
Heat olive oil in a large sauté pan over medium heat, then add the garlic and onions and sauté just until the onions become translucent.
Add spinach and sauté until spinach starts to wilt, then add the coconut milk and seasonings. Mix the ingredients well to ensure an even seasoning blend.
Sauté the seasoned spinach until completely wilted, then transfer to a warm serving dish and garnish with fresh coconut shavings. Enjoy!
http://www.bahamabreeze.com/recipes/appetizers/creamed_spinach.asp#
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/10/2008 06:39:35 AM
Message:So Wot? 51 day from da start, ukupaila stories, 1: 16.0325718608 ratio. We go pudem on cruze oa pedal to da metal?
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 07/10/2008 06:46:49 AM
Message:
quote:Chraiwait, chraiwait - you shuah? Waz not "Giri-Giri Drive In?"
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Also had da Guri Guri Drive In too.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 07/10/2008 08:28:04 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
describe da diff between guri guri and giri giri...
Both can involve one swirl.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 07/10/2008 09:42:19 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
I said fo describe da DIFF...or in plain ingleesh da DIFFERENCES -- not da similarities -- between guri guri and giri giri. Wakarimasu?
Right. I left da differences fo' him. I wen talk about da similarities. You jahs jealous cuz you nevah tink of dat firs. No get all excited.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 07/10/2008 09:54:10 AM
Message:Anden you go an give me won clue...
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Okay den goody goody.
Jus no get yowah thinning hair in my cup, 'kay?
So, I'm curious: What flavors do you like best?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/10/2008 12:59:45 PM
Message:Braddah Ed - Tanks, eh. I got one kine ice cream machine, Cuisinart. I make good kine ice cream but neva green tea kine. I have made strawberry; blueberry sorbet; amaretto ice cream; bailey's ice cream; butter pecan ice cream; vanilla ice cream; vanilla ice cream made w/brown sugar instead of white sugar (ala Emeril style) and other ones, too. I like for make em onaccounta no gummy texture of thickeners, etc. Can make ice cream with no eggs and no cooking. Texture is not as soomth, though, as if you had started with a custard base. If adding fruit or nuts or booze stuff, oni add at da end when pau churning. Get one Cuisinart ice cream machine, good ice cream in 20 minutes anden.
Today for dinnah I made scrod with roasted grape tomatoes & gahlic; boiled red potatoes & down home kine green beans, a huge pot of them, cooked with onions & a lilabit bacon (yeah, I know bacon is bad for me but) and da beans cooked for awahs (neva like put hoah) until mushy almost. Mmmm good. Like Grandpa Jone on Hee-Haw. Hey Grandpa whats for supper. Good quick easy topping for fish or chicken, even a steak if yaontoo. Spritz a pint of grape tomatoes with lilabit olive oil or pour on deah and mix around wit yo hanz. Heat da oven very hot maybe 475 hot. Put da tomatoes on one baking sheet wit sides on it. Den put chopped gahlic and peppah. Roast dem fo about 5 or 7 minutes. Make juicy kine sauce, just spoon em ova top whatevah and taste ono. Broke Oh wait, I forgot to say add chopped fresh basil after you take dem out da oven. If you can eat salt, mo bettah wit a bit of salt fo flavah. Can boikl da baby red potatoes in da pot wit da green beans.
On da Iron Chef, Morimoto-san allatime make squid ink ice cream or some kine fish eye ball ice cream. As y hahd.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 07/10/2008 3:58:24 PM
Message:Maybe we should get Andy to make one "Ono Grinds" section.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 07/10/2008 5:07:06 PM
Message:Befoa, in Waipi'o, no one get frezah-we talking 70's an early 80's hea, no moa long time befoa! Das why ice cream stay one speshal kine. So fo da keiki birtday, we aldatime used fo get da han crank ice cream maker, and den da daze output from da neighbor's brown kau. Couple guys hitch up to da las chance stoah, get backpacks of ice- an I get one bucket rock salt foa salt pork, ice cream, oa whatevahs.
Mango, lilikoi, guava, guanabana (soursop, so ono!), orange/tangerine sherbert, pineapple, lychee (not much flavah but still ono!); anykine fruits we can fin we wen make um into ice cream. But da bes one is chocolate made from pods you wen pick an roast- and da chocolate fruit ice cream ono too! (Das da fruit from roun da bean, not chocolate/fruit mix up kine, but das ono too!)
Ebery time, we wen make so much no one like try moa in da end, and da dogs wen grine um! (No moa frezah- rememba?) Soah da arm! Han crank, an da opu stay busting-das y hahd!
Chris
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 07/10/2008 5:42:45 PM
Message:Erybody get good kine talk story,but I nevah hea from da author of dis topic for awhile,especially since he had one caught on video at da bank close encounter of da third kine.Wassup D you no like share da wala au wit da people of da lo'i on dis one? maybe dea's a lesson hea,at da very least good talk story.K-den aloha
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 07/10/2008 7:44:46 PM
Message:quote]Braddah Jay, I tot braddah Duke was just sandbagging for a change. Wat dat buggah wen do? I hope somebody at least wen go bail him out.
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Braddah ed howzit,eh you buggah,what you talkin about? I was talkin about someting else.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/10/2008 9:59:13 PM
Message:Well, from the pic and description (135 lbs.), you know it was not my dear Dukie. Looks like a little teenager. Musta need some school supplies. Or a gallon of milk.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 07/11/2008 12:08:57 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
Well, from the pic and description (135 lbs.), you know it was not my dear Dukie. Looks like a little teenager. Musta need some school supplies. Or a gallon of milk.
Correction,that's possible if duke was still in da 10th grade.
Braddah ed you too good,I no can trap you in da cornah
Wassup braddah duke? some still dunno,k-den wen you ready.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/11/2008 12:30:53 AM
Message:Well, all dem kids notin mo fo do, give a broom. Give a mop. Go volunteah da hospito or nursing hale oa give one geetah oa ukulele. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. Teach them to make quilts. Teach them to pull weeds or plant kalo. Teach them to train dogs for assist animals forhandicapped. Can help da tutu ladies and mens, go run errands for dem. Can make one community gahden, grow veg, cheaper den grocery stoah.
Didn't Feet Rogers rob a bank?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/11/2008 07:30:41 AM
Message:I am glad Dukie did not try to be the Loan Arranger at the bank and nab the bad guy. You are not a babooze, Kemosabe. I am glad you are safe and I am glad your daughter is safe.
It can't be Michael Jackson onaccounta he is in a wheel chair nowadays.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 07/11/2008 08:32:10 AM
Message:.[/quote]Tsk tsk. I see you've been reading dat trashy National Enquirer magazine again, Ma.
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Or towards your next trip to show da bolo head braddahs you version of palusamiDa bus drivah story? Someone we know was on dat bus.Eh duke I nevah mean fo you tell about da bus,jus da bank paht.I talk to you bombye.Eh braddah ed,how YOU wen know where ma wen read dat?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/11/2008 08:42:25 AM
Message:Eh dis won is kapu. Dis won hurtz u no. You guyz should givem space, coz dis is serious bizness. Show some respect an we go do sometin else.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/11/2008 11:02:12 AM
Message:Okayden, you babooze. Welcome to da club.
Lattahs
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Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/11/2008 11:22:46 AM
Message:Duke - I am happy fo you to be alive fo be one babooze.
Kden, I heading out to the Broadview Hts. Home Days where the Hula Hui o ka `Aina Punahele will be dancing with that CUTE Paul Certo playing geetah. Playing and singing: Ko Ma`i Ho`eu`eu; Puamana; `Ulupalakua; Hula o Makee; Ke Aloha; and while the ladies are changing costumes going to play and sing but no dancing: Wahine `Ilikea; Island Style; Take a Walk in the Country, Koke`e and Ku`u Home o Kahlu`u I tink that is his set list. K den. Laterz.
It is like a carnival. Oh boy oh boy do I ever want real french fries made out of not frozen potatoes or a corn dog or any kine deep fried and salted stuff lidat. But I wont. Az y hah.
Shootz.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/11/2008 11:52:42 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrisequote:Oweee. Wow, dat buggah wen hurt. Some guys so dang savage. Welcome to da club.
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
Okayden, you babooze. Welcome to da club.
Eh Ed, I neva sed I wazn't won memba too. Dis is jez like honors, except you kinda looking at it from anudda point of view. An jez like honors you gotta earn em. Anden how many of us guyz at some point in oua lives wen earn em -- get plany.
PM
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 07/11/2008 12:46:43 PM
Message:What,foa thirty yeas I taught I was puerto rican,tellin erybody I bodinki,only to find out from my madda I actually podogee.I told her ma we bodinki,she said "yeah from what side" I said gramma's(your mom)She said "lolo gramma is brabba portugese" I tink das da dark ones.So what I qualify? Dis is one elite unit you know.If dat not good enough I get moa.Aloha
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 07/11/2008 1:06:56 PM
Message:Bruddah Duke...I glad you iz OK. Be safe. BTW, las mont I wen Liliha Bakery ...Shootz was on one Tursday!
Hooo...I nevah fogget one time. I was doin' some pepawork and one of the blocks fo fill out was RACE. So, I fillum out witout axing da guy I waz doin da pepawork fo, and he look at da pepawork and he tell me..."Eh...I not caucasian. I PODOGEE!" OK!
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 07/11/2008 2:05:20 PM
Message:By the way --- this highly-inclusive thread has long surpassed the "Seattle-Area Experiment" one - and we in the aforementioned area say a hearty "hurrah!"
The length and breadth of this thread answers its own question. My pidgin sucks, and it always will. I feel welcome here anyway. Pidgin-posters imua!
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 07/11/2008 2:09:17 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by PoiDog
. . . Shootz was on one Tursday! . . .
Eh, brah, no say "shootz" in dis tread!
Sir Duke, I glad you stay okay. I not one religious person, but I tink somboddy was lookin' out fo you. You know why, it's cuz you get aloha. And wen you give aloha, if evvryting goes right (and sometimes it doesn't) you get aloha.
On anoddah note, sometime we don't know what our heritage is. One respected kupuna up hea, he nevah know for long time he was paht Pohtagee. Ony like da las' 10 yeahs he wen find out. But da rest of us knew! Dis uncle, he no can talk witout his hands, so gotta be!
Me, I stay paht Okinawan, an da Okinawan gene pool is pretty murky. Wen my granfaddah was young, he was real dark and he looked paht Filipino. My granmaddah was real fair and she looked paht Korean.
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 07/11/2008 2:25:28 PM
Message:
One sixteent!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/12/2008 07:08:43 AM
Message:Duke and Jay both have good babooze stories. And as Peter said above, we all have been there. That is for certain! How about sharing some of your babooze stories so Duke does not feel so all alone at the top.
I've got two, both from when I first was married and was trying so hard to be the good wife. One day I went to wash dishes in the dishwasher that came with our apartment. We had run out of wishwasher detergent, so I put in liquid dish soap. Nevah had a dishwasher growing up at home, so I didn't know anytiing. I learned right quick not to put liquid dish soap iin the dishwasher. It makes lots of tiny bubbles. Bubbles and bubbles and more bubbles. I was sitting on the kitchen floor crying with bubbles all around me. It was like something from the Lucy show. I did not know what to do, so I had to call my Ma and get her advice. She told me to sprinkle salt on the bubbles and they would go away. Worked like a charm. We had one very clean kitchen floor.
Anoddah time I was making beef soup for dinnah. Since good soup cooks low and slow, I thought I could put the soup on and run over to the old neighborhood and pick up my Ma for to have dinnah with us. Only half hour there and half hour back, and I usually cook soup for hours and hours. I figured no problem, yeah? Well, there was a problem. I forgot to turn the stove down way low when I left to get Ma. Paul came home to the apartment while I was on my way back with Ma. He found that the fire and police had been there because of the smoke emanating from our apartment because the pan burned up on the stove. My Ma got a pretty good kick out of that. No soup that day. This was in the days before crock pots. I am a better cook and housekeeper nowadays.
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 07/12/2008 10:11:48 AM
Message:Never leave out all the details, like you want to hide something. I came home to smoke and a note to call Officer So & So at the Police Station. He told me what he and the Fire Dept knew, and when I asked where is my wife, He don't know nothin about no wife. I don't know if she got burnt and drove to the hospital or what. Then, Wanda comes in with her Ma and wants to know what I did to her soup. Me, I was just home from working, on Saturday yet. No Pau Hana till Saturday afternoon in those days.
Paul
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 07/12/2008 2:16:58 PM
Message:I worked at a catering place once. I told a new guy that the boss wanted to mix the pancake batter for the next morning, but I forgot to tell the newbie just to mix the dry ingrediments. He added the eggs, the buttermilk and a quart of sourdough starter. The mess in the morning was like a B-movie! The blob had "eaten" the back of the kitchen and was crawling towards the ovens-- 10 hours of gluten and yeast had created a mess worthy of a jackhammer and a set of cold chisels. My boss just laughed all morning the next day.
Eh, Ed, does dat qualify foa one "Pordagee Moment"?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/12/2008 3:28:22 PM
Message:But I was only 20 when we got married, so I was just a dumb kid.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 07/12/2008 4:10:18 PM
Message:When I started out as an apprentice ironwoker,I think I spent two weeks in da prefab yard making columns,caissons,and sheer walls if feasible.Since I"ve always been a fast learnah,they needed me out in da field,which is a whole different ball game.They just happened to throw me with a crew who had been workin together for some time,the project was ko'olani highrise.I was eager to get in there and contribute,except one of da journeyman had adda ideas.We were out on da deck wen in front of erybody he shouts for me to go get da 6-10 pull bar,what you guys gotta realize is iron workers work at a very fast pace.In fact wen we say iron coming chru all adda contractors scattah,da iron is heavy,if you no move your stuff we goin bury em.So I'm running back and forth lookin for da 6-10 pull bar,guess wat? dea is no such a thing,not only dat but eryone knew,sub contrctors and all.Only wen I saw some braddahs laughing did I realize da joke was on me.I got scolding from my foreman who said "lolo if you dunno,jus ask".Aftah dat I made sure to ask about eryting,das jus one of many stories dis baboose get.Aloha
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 07/12/2008 4:19:32 PM
Message:Eh braddah ed,maybe aftah reading some of da stories,we go try categorize da rank of some of da people in dis company
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/13/2008 12:33:03 AM
Message:Eh, Duke. Chago no babooze. Chago smaht boy. All kine akamai dat. I tink preddy brillyant chree anna haff akamai lidat. He wen lern coz an effeck also too. When we was dere, Chago lern how to use reglah film camera in no time. Learn how to use da telefodo nden. He take choke good peechas. I tink J.J. going be plenny akamai too. He look at da spots on my face and ax wot dat. I have to try splain da freckles. He smaht, auntie not. I wen chrai get him grine da raw veg, good for malama kou kino. He get da baby carrot, I tole him eat dat, it make you eyes get very strong can see in da dahk mo bettah. He wen eat em nden put one in Aunties mouf, make eat lidat. Then he said, k now and he take my reading glasses off my nose. He tink I eat da carrot nomo need glasses. Smaht dat he oni chree anna haff. Kids do tings wot make mischips but not bad ting, oni stay lernin lidat. Not babooze, das y dey stay get more akamai da more an more babooze tings dey do. But az y mamas and papas get da gray hayah o da bolo head.
I wonder if all da "senior moments" I have wuz really babooze moments? Y Paul no get da babooze moments lai me???
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/13/2008 05:42:52 AM
Message:k den here are peechas from Paul dem play music dance hula on Friday night. Was good fun. I did not eat any carnival food. But we went to a restaurant and I was very bad.
Reply author: kihoalukid
Replied on: 07/13/2008 2:47:03 PM
Message:Eh Duke, you should wen head butt da bugga, he neva know wat hit em!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/13/2008 4:14:05 PM
Message:Lee, now that is funny! Poor Dukie. Erebody pickin on my frien,just have one slight babooze moment and now he hafta stay luna o da babooze. Az y hahd.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 07/13/2008 5:23:50 PM
Message:Braddah duke,maybe rank sergeant baboose for dat one.Wen I was workin on da ko'olani project,planny funny kine stuff happened wea I believe up to eight hawaiian's were buried.The site had da ceremonial blessing,but tings kept happening.Big tractor crane was bein inspected,and greesed as part of maintenance,with da boom up at about 40 degrees the cable suddenly snapped crushing a backhoe,and delivery truck.Another time they were pumping concrete up to a floor wen da boom came crashing down on da deck,and yet anadda time wit da tractor crane it was lifting da big compressor,wen da sling wen bust,sending da compressor crashing to da ground.On dis project we have both a tower crane and a tractor crane which is used for lifts not to high but within reach,well one time we heard da customary bup bup from da horn,which means look up,and heads up,load overhead.Now dis one time we hea bup bup buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup,wen I wen look up dis hea crane's boom was coming right at da building,you gotta realize dis crane is big,so it looks like slow motion.What happened was dat da drivah wen boom ovah at 90 degrees where his tracks are at dea narrowist,but dis drivah he too good,knowing he at da point of no return,he wen aim da boom for one steel column dat we wen set da adda day,so wen he hit da column,she wen act like one shock absorber saving da deck,and most important lives.Now you ask wat dis get fo do wit da baboose moment of da day? Wen erybody was scatterin,I saw one guy runnin only fo trip and fall,and slide on his stomach,grab a hold on one electricians conduit wit his hand,thus swingin his leg around wit da momentum right off da deck to da next floah,and guess wat? One perfect 10 on da landin.I talked to him at da safety meeting dey wen set up da next day,he still nevah believe wat wen happen.BUT while eryone was scattering wen da crane was coming down one guy was running fo get out of da way,but guess wat? Dis baboose goin grab da water jug as he running,try figga dat one out,I wen bring dis up at dat safety meeting,and even point him out,to which erybody wen laugh.I wanted dat baboose fo learn from dat situation.Now das one lucky baboose.Plus he win baboose of da day award.Aloha
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 07/13/2008 6:12:38 PM
Message:Braddah ed,das why get insurance,dey can reimburse em.Gotta go back by megs drive in,try wait da buggah close down.Ah he lose out.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/14/2008 1:37:13 PM
Message:Eh, Braddah Ed - don't you have any babooze stories? Wot, you nevah get babooze moments? And Peter, you said you've been there, too. You gotta cough up the stories. Eh, can embellish if you want.
And Glennpachi, too. I know you got da edumakashun, but.
In dat film about Robert Cazimero's Halau o na Kamalei, one da haumana guyz has nickname Babooze. I tink he one fyaman. I wonder if he knows dat CUTE Ocean Kaowili.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 07/18/2008 3:46:00 PM
Message:Babooze. Portuguese and / or Spanish: "vavoso" --literally "slobbermouth".
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 07/18/2008 4:58:07 PM
Message:Q: How can you tell the porch is level?
A: The banjo player drools from both sides of his mouth.
Not sure if that also aplies to Portuguese / Spanish peoples. Do they play banjo, too?
Paul
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 07/18/2008 6:10:49 PM
Message:Guava- I loved your "smiley" noodle man- how you wen do um? Fin em someweres oa make em yourself?
I unnastan why you wen remove da comment, but fine anodda use fo da buggah!
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/20/2008 1:51:26 PM
Message:I hope Al no get mad da noodle slurping. We just havin good fun. First time we ever went to Hawai`i we went to a Japanese noodle restaurant in Waikiki. I ordered udon. So very good. But they gave us chop sticks to eat the noodles. Yikes. Good thing the waitress looked at us and figured haoles like us need spoon and fork. Where do you get the fishcake stuff they float on the soup? Is it store bought or do you make it yourself? I liked it and it is very pretty, makes a very nice garnish.
Braddah Ed - does that noodle smiley guy have one girigiri?
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 07/20/2008 1:57:45 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
Where do you get the fishcake stuff they float on the soup? Is it store bought or do you make it yourself?
The fishcake is probably either kamaboko (if it's pink edged and half-moon shaped) or chikuwa (if it's brown edged and has a hole in the middle of it). I've heard it's possible to make 'em at home, but my family's only ever bought 'em. I've also heard it's made from the same stuff as surimi or imitation "krab."
Braddah Al get mo' hea dan Guavasunrise's slurpy guy. An I tink Braddah Al's girigiri mus' be hidin', cuz I no can see 'em, but I know he get 'em.
An, on one noddah note, I finally got my shave ice. Twice. Tursday night at da Espaniola/Peterson concert, and yestahday at da Aloha Na Kupuna festival. Brok' da mout' an' hit da spot.
Reply author: Bd1
Replied on: 07/20/2008 2:15:01 PM
Message:Braddah Jay,you remind me of when I was a laborer back in the late 60's. The Japanee forman was on vacation when I started and when he came back He let everyone know he didn't like Haoles 'specially one form New York. One day in front of the Super and some udda guys he told me " Hey Haole get me water stick" I would not let him know I didn't have any idea what it was so I walked to the tool shed. I came back to him and said "Eh Masa what size you like ?As I showed him three different size Levels" All the guys laughed and Masa and I became Primo drinking buddies.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 07/20/2008 3:16:46 PM
Message:
quote:Howzit braddah doug,yeah it seems the norm as far as makin a little fun at da new guys,sort of like a gauge to see what you goin say,or how you goin react.If you just go with da flow,moa times dan not you goin be in,personally I tink they like know if you goin be good kine guy foa drink wit,or you goin act crazy.Makes sense,so what doug,you was local 368? das my ol union.Now I'm wit local 625 ironworkers union,same ting dey put youy chru all da test.K-den aloha braddah jay
Originally posted by Bd1
Braddah Jay,you remind me of when I was a laborer back in the late 60's. The Japanee forman was on vacation when I started and when he came back He let everyone know he didn't like Haoles 'specially one form New York. One day in front of the Super and some udda guys he told me " Hey Haole get me water stick" I would not let him know I didn't have any idea what it was so I walked to the tool shed. I came back to him and said "Eh Masa what size you like ?As I showed him three different size Levels" All the guys laughed and Masa and I became Primo drinking buddies.
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 07/20/2008 7:38:43 PM
Message:Right on, Ed! I nevah take you for one forms-&-concrete guy, den. Me? I was hogwire fence builder in Waimea-Mud Lane and ditch-digger/jackhamma/compaction man on highways. Also, dynamite helper; I drill the hole and bring the diesel and ammonia fo put insy.
Check us out today: we pluck strings and talk hauna!
Herb
Herb
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 07/20/2008 9:48:26 PM
Message:Eh former professionals now slack key playahs,ho back den da dollah went fah,nowadays 5 dollahs for one exotic coffee...yikes.I miss da nickle days,one dollah you set.Now 20 dollahs sometimes no-nuff,especially if you like treat.Me and braddah duke hit da dollah movies,den diners fo da cheese burgah saimin combo.Can if you know how.Braddah ed was by accident,using quotations class of 2008,main ting I wen grad
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/20/2008 11:16:04 PM
Message:Yeah. I remebah when could buy penny candy at da stoah. Now days I don't even know why dey have da pennies. Not good fo nottin but give change back from dollah naineenain if no tax.
I had whatchu call nostaljah foah da penny candy from hanabatta days. We get one stoah stay sell dakine. http://www.sweetiescandy.com/ Dis was at fort of July wen da `ohana come foah cook out. So I hele da stoah an buy turtee dollah woof candy. I get Ice Cubes, Bun candy bars, Zero candy bar, Sky Bar, B.B. Bats, Slo-Poke, Suggah Daddy, Good n Planny, Chuckles, dem caramel tings, round wit white stuff inna middle I tink called bulls eye; an dem nodda kine what be coconut kine tree cullahs, pink, white an brown each wrap up in da cellopane. An dem nodda white nougat kine wit tiny blobs of chewy jelly kine candy, ahdunno what da name. I tot would be good fun have da family gathering foah talk about small kid time. Was good foah talk story, but da candy, not as good as I remembah. Or maybe trouble is I no remembah so ackyurut. I used to love dem ice cubes, but now eat one wanna make me sick. None of it tasted as good. "And I blew the blood sugar out of this world, sky high. Well, good for a nostaljah trip, yeah? Sometimes, you jus cannot go back.
But this stoah have all da old kine, dem wax lips and dem wax soda bottles full of sickeningly sweet liquid and dem pixie stix full of kool aid kina stuff. Do you remembah fizzies? Dey had da pop rocks, no Mikie did not splode his po`o from eating dem.
But, toosie rolls, nomo fat, nomo salt.
What was you favrite candy when small kid time?
And do you remembah da co-cola in da small bahdohs, dat soda pop most ono of all, cold outah dem machines at da gas station takin route 21 down to W. Va.
Now I oni get glucola foah da blood sugah tolerance test.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/20/2008 11:38:16 PM
Message:One impohtant ting fo dis tread ova heah -- is da kine "dakine" o "da kine"? I wish to be propah an ackyurut.
Tanks, eh.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 07/21/2008 02:24:32 AM
Message:
quote:Das how ma go fo broke,no scead,chance em,give em,and go like hell.You sound moa "local" dan me;dat one I gotta spell out bombye you tink I callin you crazy.Remembah da salt watah taffy belt,all kine collahs,and da malt tablets.Jolly joes,hot tamales,I tink dey even had all green kine,maybe mint or someting.No forget cracker jack wit someting inside.I wen check out dat website,too good all kine old stuff,wondah if same flavah? Still das cool.
Originally posted by wcerto
One impohtant ting fo dis tread ova heah -- is da kine "dakine" o "da kine"? I wish to be propah an ackyurut.
Tanks, eh.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 07/21/2008 06:25:34 AM
Message:
quote:This thread, July 8. Go back an' see.
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Was anybody else talking about shave ice?
Reply author: Hula Rider
Replied on: 07/21/2008 07:00:39 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
Don't peaches grow well in Hawai'i? I would think they would flourish, since they grow well in the south here on the mainland, you know, Georgia peaches. But they also grow well here in Ohio. Mmmmmm, good.
But I have one question -- what kind of waste water disposal do you have? Sewers or septic tanks or what? Where does all the icky water go? On outer islands in remote spots are there still out houses used or does everyone have a flush toilet? What about cooking heat? Do you use gas or electric? Are there any natural gas wells in Hawai`i? Do any of the homes need to have furnaces?
Tanks, eh.
Aloha kaua!
Peaches will grow in Hawai`i in some of the cooler areas at higher elevations. But where the temperature is good, it seems to be too wet, so there is a lot of blossom drop, and the young fruits get fungus and mold easily. Cherries and plums will grow in the higher elevations, and Waimea even has a Cherry Blossom Festival.
Hawai`i has a wide variety of black-water solutions. In Honolulu, Hilo, and (I expect) Lahaina, there are municipal sewer systems.
I grew up with cesspools and lua (pits) being the norm. Many people just had a pipe feeding into a lava tube. But now the law requires septic tanks or composting toilets. As the technology has improved, composting toilets are gaining in popularity.
Some people do still have outhouses.
Cooking heat: Some homes use natural gas, some use propane, a few use kerosene or alcohol stoves, a very few have wood-burning stoves. Most in town use electric or natural gas. Many homes use electric for lighting, refrigeration, etc and natural gas or propane for cooking. We used to have gas refrigerators so we did not have to run the generator all the time or else do without chilled foods.
Some people buy their power from the electric company. Some generate their own with diesel or gas generators, some use solar or wind systems to power their homes.
Hawai`i, being a chain of young volcanic islands, has no natural gas. We do have some limited use of geothermal energy. People and businesses with solar or wind powered structures are able to sell excess power to the power company. IMO, it would be excellent to strive for 100% of homes being set up to do this.
Some homes, especially at higher elevations have furnaces or fireplaces. I have seen frost on the ground in the morning in Mt. View. One of our neighbors here in Hilo has a fireplace. Here on Hala`i Hill, in the winter we catch all that heavy cold air off the summits of both Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa when it sinks down the mountain slopes at night. It hits our hill and "pools" around our homes.
As my home is an older one beautifully designed to utilize natural air flow to stay about 10 degrees cooler than the ambient temperature (GREAT most of the year!), it can be bloody freezing during a cold winter when the weather outside drops into the 50s! One year I just shut down every room but the kitchen, nailed blankets over the kitchen windows, and turned on the electric stove. My daughter and I slept on futons in the breakfast nook.
A little "toiletrivia": I was taught that "lua" is properly used for an out house, while "lumi pau pilikia" is used for the WC. "lua" literally means "pit." On a somewhat related note: "puka," I was taught, is a hole that goes all the way through something. So, the holes in my ears in which I hang my earrings are "puka," while the pits in which my eyeballs sit are "lua."
Malama pono,
Leilehua
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/21/2008 07:19:21 AM
Message:Mahalo Leilehua for telling me all the stuff that I have wondered about. I was certain there would be no natural gas there, since it is the result of decay of vegetation. Where there is coal, there is natural gas, there is oil and where there is oil, there is coal. In W. Va., lots of folks have gas wells on their property and get free gas, plus royalties for selling it to the gas company. And where my mom used to live, there was natural gas in the well water. Made really bad tasting coffee.
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 07/21/2008 07:33:43 AM
Message:Hoooo...Outhouse Story. My TuTu's house had one outhouse. Had one big puka and one small puka...Da small puka was even on one mo lowa height den da big puka. On da side of da big puka, between da big puka an da small puka was one pile old Maui Newses.
So one day, me an my cuzzin ste by da plum trees. But we can hea, "Heeeelp.....Heeeelp!" Da plum trees ste about 200' from da outhouse, and dat's whea da soun ste coming from...da outhouse. I tell my cuzzin, "Eh...soun like Bucky! (Bucky is da olda brudda of da cuzzin ste wit me pickin plums.) So we staht walkin to da soun of da, "Heeeeelp!" An shua enuff...Bucky ste yelling fo help from da outhouse.
We yank open da door....Bucky ste inside da big puka, but not all da way. His azz wen drop down, and his knees an elbows was keepin him from falling all da way down into da puka. But he was stuck...Was funny.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/21/2008 07:47:09 AM
Message:So waz da old daze yeah. Waz upcountry or what? Anden da Maui News waz fo double duty?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/21/2008 10:18:57 AM
Message:We did not have da Maui News in W. Va. We had da Sears & Roebuck weesh book. Also get da Farmers Almanac stay hanging by a string tied to a nail. Chrai look - Farmers Almanac get puka chru da top leff kornah for hang in da lua. Trouble wit Sears cadalog, da color pages stay too slick to do da rite job. Got rub da page face to face togeddah foah get da slick off da buggah. Oh, I happy foah quilted northern or charmin now. Dem freezin cold snowy wintah mornings, yikes. Dats mebbe when to use da 5 lb. lard bucket. We had 2 pukas, also too, but bot same hite same dye ama tah. Me & my girl cuzzins, we went togeddah. Lord knows why because nowadays, I would die before doing that I think. I cannot even make any noise in a public bathroom if anyone else around, get mortified.
Hey but at leess back den, we resaiko da cadalog.
An dis place is here in Ohio down in Amish country. One of da coolest stoahs I evah see. Huge da buggah. Plenny stuffs da Amish use, no mo electricity. Composting toilets, gas refrigeradors and all kiine odda stuffs way cool. Just fun go deah an browse. Funny ting dey get da dot com and sell dakine tings lidat. When was da y2k skea ho da place sell out all da kine jenareidahs and stuff, peepo go crazy buyin from dem guyz. Chrai look. http://www.lehmans.com/jump.jsp?itemID=0&itemType=HOME_PAGE Can use plenny dis stuffs up country Maui or up dea by da volcano on Moku o Keawe.
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 07/21/2008 11:58:01 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
I cannot even make any noise in a public bathroom if anyone else around, get mortified.
I used to be li-dat. I oni could use one familiah seat...But not aftah all da radiation...Now ste kinda week down deah. SO wen da time come...it is now...not latah.
Expecially at da airport. Expecially aftah a nite wit da boyz. I kno no can smoke at one airport, but, sometimes you feel sorry fo da guy nex dooah! My frien Kamaka wen roll up da pepa and lite um...he no smoke but he know he gotta kill da smell. Somebody wen call Security cuz dey wen smell sometin burning. Dey wen accuze him fo smokin' in da batroom. But he nevah. When I wen back inside, I wen vouch fo da smell and he was oni liting da pepa fo kill da smell. I says to a security guy, whea is da sign you no can burn noting? It oni says NO SMOKING. Dey wen give him da obligatory "pat down" and nevah fine noting...No cig, no cig pack, noting. Oni da match he wen bum from Ernesto...he smoke, but not Kamaka. I says to da security officah, "You guys should be giving him one award fo liting up da pepa. An possibly saving da life of one tourist daddy...You no like all da tourist chirrins be witout one faddah and dey gotta go home to Nebraska cuz daddy wen succomb to Kamaka's nuclear blast."
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/21/2008 12:13:07 PM
Message:N den, da lua at Kaka`ako Paka fo da wahines have NO DOAHS on da stalls. Az y hahd. Espeshully when Mama bring da lido boys in dea wif dem. I one ugly old lady and even uglier wit my pants down. Nevah like skea dem keeds.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/21/2008 12:53:45 PM
Message:I tink da Miffbustahs goin prove dat match ting is BUSTED. Not true. Da hauna is hauna. No gettin aroun it. Not enough sulfa in a whole box o matches. Oni get da lua hauna plus da sulfa hauna, now double pu-tank-ee.
Lets talk about flowers instead. I like da pua kenikeni lei what Jay got fo me at Chais. I still have da lei hanging in da music room. They had a nice and distinctive fragrance. I neva even heard of dat befotimel Very pretty dainty liddo pua. An I like pua melia, so many different colors and it smell good too. I neva see or smell mokihana lei. Supposed to smell good, yeah?
But, I gotta clue you in to a secret -- Duke stay smell onaona when you geev him one hug. Dats why dat hoof hearted is buncho bu.
One nodda ting from living Hawai`i and wearing slippahs, you guys no get hauna feet. My sistah have feet so bad da dogs wen roll all ova her shoes and feet like rollin ova da dead crittah.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/21/2008 1:32:53 PM
Message:Oh yeah? Well, not that I am name dropping, but, perhaps Paul and I are on a first name basis with Jamie and Adam. Maybe we have a Seattle friend who might know someone who knows someone.....
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/21/2008 2:03:33 PM
Message:`Twas a bit much, wasn't it! Somehow I figured you would find that video! I think I am inside your head. Bwa-ha-ha.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/21/2008 2:04:48 PM
Message:I love it they make being a geek sexy.
Reply author: Bd1
Replied on: 07/21/2008 2:36:05 PM
Message:Yah Jay,I was in laborers when Big Elmo Sampson was da kine..............I worked for H and W Block Masons,The condos up on the hill by Francis II Brown Golf Course,all the bases on Enlisted Housing. I lived in Honoulii on Ft. Weaver Road. I was a plaster Hod Carrier. That was all after I quit bartending in Waikiki.........
Reply author: Hula Rider
Replied on: 07/21/2008 5:12:47 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
Mahalo Leilehua for telling me all the stuff that I have wondered about. I was certain there would be no natural gas there, since it is the result of decay of vegetation. Where there is coal, there is natural gas, there is oil and where there is oil, there is coal. In W. Va., lots of folks have gas wells on their property and get free gas, plus royalties for selling it to the gas company. And where my mom used to live, there was natural gas in the well water. Made really bad tasting coffee.
Oh, ick! Did she have to buy water for drinking?
You are most welcome!
Reply author: Mika ele
Replied on: 07/22/2008 07:02:04 AM
Message:Ennybody see da movable luas on da BI? I was doing some repair work in Waikoloa and da Ironman was going by. They had all deze luas on da sida da road alla way to Hawi. Dey was pretty funny. I don't know if da names of da companies iz reel, but dey crack me up. Any of you seen deze guys?
quote:
It’s no wonder the company last year grossed $1.3 million in sales and anticipates up to $1.6 million this year. What makes Paradise Lua stand out from its half-dozen competitors is the Prestig-ious Executive Restroom Trailer, or “PERT.” The PERT accommodates 420 men – or 210 women – per hour and boasts air-conditioning, stereo music, mirrors and sinks and a baby-changing station. Another highly sought model, the Royal Flush, is solar-powered and comes with hand towels, soap dispensers and carpet. Both put airplane lavatories to shame.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 07/22/2008 3:43:17 PM
Message:"Dass mo bettah den plucking chicken feddahs aftah pau chicken fight, yeah?"
I always wen tink das da bes part of chicken fight- you win, steak an lobstahs; you lose, get chicken soup. Eddah way goine get dinnah.
Chris
(Oops! Nebbah wen spock get two moa page afath dat... long time I nebbah wen post, I tink!)
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/22/2008 3:49:02 PM
Message:Eh Mika ele - we get port-o-lets ovah heah, too. Not nice lidat you have in da peechas. What is bad da nasty peepos what couldn't hit da puka if dea life depent on it. Or dem trow nasty pepa onna floah.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 07/28/2008 3:39:40 PM
Message:Bless the conveniences that serve us in our daily need, for they are truly the equalizers of humanity.
BTW, the bathroom is Da Place foa practice music, as long as nobody is inconvenienced.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/29/2008 01:07:11 AM
Message:Hea one quiz fo see eef you can make one sentence with da pidgin words:
macoon
make A
jabone
irkatated
fufu`e
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 08/14/2008 5:11:41 PM
Message:Wha, Guava- stay look foa fine out wea eberybody wen go?
I donno- guess Wanda's las one wen stump um...
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 08/15/2008 12:48:22 AM
Message:macoon - big, usually meaning body parts. Ho dat girl get macoon arms.
make A - for make shame. For embarasses yoursef.
jabone - Take em or steal.
irkatated - to be irked, irritated, p--sed off.
fufu`e - puffy kine; flamboyent; ovah done. Chrai look da fufu`e lady wit choke make up, all dose flowahs in her hair, wit choke Hawaiian bracelets.
One of my favorites out of Da Kine Dictionary is "himakamaka" - One stuck up buggah, da kine who crap ice cream and sweat perfume. Stanley so himakamaka since he wen get accepted at Punahou. I think the definition he wrote in da book is very descriptive. We got two of dose kine on da jury duty dis week. I hope dey no make hung jury.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 08/16/2008 04:21:12 AM
Message:"High makamaka" is so common it has become standard English- was used a lot when I was a kid in California. But I have never seen it spelled himakamaka before...
Kayden- back up da mango tree I go...
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 08/16/2008 10:54:57 AM
Message:Das why I am clueless and nevah like make a or mek a or however da right way.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 08/22/2008 9:40:13 PM
Message:So what would one short person be called? Lo-makamaka,or one very big person be called,wo-makamaka
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 08/25/2008 11:25:12 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by sirduke58
So den regullah size snobs cood be "Pai lumhai?
Oh no, no, no you kenna use dat one, das not politically correc, das da haimakamaka pake. Da regula guyz would be jezlike nomo wid atitude.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 08/25/2008 12:16:57 PM
Message:Eh, Peter! Can get da book mainland sai when pau?
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 08/25/2008 12:43:09 PM
Message:Welcome back Peter! Weah you been, brah? Acshually, ne'mine me - I bein' too niele. Jus' glad you stay back.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 08/25/2008 1:35:15 PM
Message:Hey da school stay staht, no? Mebbe Petah very one busy professor dude. See, when he go teach da school. he hafta be mo akamai den da haumana, and dat mus make one headache allatime trying to keep ahead o da students.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 08/25/2008 3:33:32 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
Hey da school stay staht, no? Mebbe Petah very one busy professor dude. See, when he go teach da school. he hafta be mo akamai den da haumana, and dat mus make one headache allatime trying to keep ahead o da students.
Actually, school did staht today. Bud I no need go until Wednedsday – getting ready fo sen my dawda off to NYU fo da second yea. She’s doin real real good, so we gotta send her back. Cost about won Mercedes dis yea, good ting we get equity in da house. N coz I was on sick leave last semesta and I wozon won murda trial jury laz fall dat went fo like ten and a haf weeks, woz jezlike I wen miss won hole year. So had plany werk lidat fo ketchup, woz bus azz.
Anden laz yea becoz da football team wen get plany recognition nationally anda football announcers on TV wen say day da facilities on UH campus suck not jez atletics but mostly everywea, da higha powas wen decide too renovate some a da schools yeah. An da music depahtment stay won of doze coz make ass yeah. So like fo da firz time since da depahment wos bilt fifty yeas ago dey stay changem on da old paht.
Da roof stay literally falling down around us guys. Da olda part of da complex was taking gas wen rain. My office stay in da concert hall on da top paht. Wen rain my office get won watafall eensai. Byron Moon’s office (Petah Moon’s cousin) iz unda my office, his office becomes won lake. I had too move my office an stuff from won end of da complex to da udda. Was hard, I walk wid won cane now.
Anden somebody wen dey firz design da bildings and fo da newa bildings get da brite idea dat eh we don’t need windows coz get ea conditioning anden we go use da chill wata system fo alla da bildings lidat. Andn dey still following da same plan. But guess wot? Wen da ea conditon no werk in won room dey gotta shut da hole system. I cannot believe we pay deeze guys money fo make tings werse. But den deeze are reel hard times now so I shouldn’t be complaining. Dea fixing almos eryting – get like about 15-20 guyz werking evryday lidat, dey wen tare up allada concrete so nomo sidewalk lidat. Anden da book had too wait lidat hah coz had choke werk and planning fo da school yea. But da book stay almos pau now. I tot woz goin be pau in July but looks mo like da next couple weeks.
Anden I took my family Kaua`i. Woz da bomb. Woz good becoz nevah had cellphone, computa oa da intanet – I woz outta contact so to speak and it felt reel good – jez cruizin wid da family. Kaua`i iz da emarald of alla da islands. I yusta go dea allada time wen I woz in high school anden college fo surf so I knowem pretty good.
We stayed at won good old hotel on da beach in Waialua dats gonna go change to time share pretty soon. Can tell times are hard on Kaua’i coz plany bizeneses stay closing lidat, its sad. But at least get plany chickens running around so if you get hungry can make chicken soup wid togan and ginger.
Won day da monk seal stay snooze in front on da beach so you kenna go neadem I undastand dat and keep my distance. Butden got alla deeze self appointed old buck do-gooders who in da old dayz woz probably guyz from Taylor camp (hippies lidat) who look out fo da seals which is good in won way but kinda reaching ova dea actual autority. And dey give you stink eye lidat wen you go take won picha lidat of da seal. Bud me becoz I get plany grey hair too anden walk wid won cane I go make like I no can hea anden go take da pichas wid da telephoto lens. An allada time I can hea deeze old bucks saying “excuse me sir, excuse me sir” andey raising dey voices coz dey tink I no can hea anden I hea dem swearing coz dey no tink I can hea. I turn around smile at dem make like I neva hea dem swear at me anden watch dem deflate. Woz good fun. Kden keep you fella posted.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 08/26/2008 2:55:39 PM
Message:Petah is sending his dawda back to school in NYC. Yikes. Talk about as diametrically opposed to Hawai`i as can be. Once I went there in early 90's. Worst trip of my life. Ever. I went with my brother in law. Mistake number 1. We stayed at the Omni Hotel (I do not know if it is still there), which was on I think right across from the Russian Tea Room. When we pulled up there after driviing all day from Cleveland, the bell captain asked my brother-in-law what he wanted to do with his car. Alan told him to park the car because his notes from work travel people said they had a garage. It was $26 per day to park the car. Back in the early 90's!!!! Got trapped in the hotel when I got up early one morning with a very low blood sugar and had to run downstairs for a snack right away. No makeup, no wash hair, no socks, no ironing, etc. Then elevator door didn't want to let me out. Was a fire alarm in the hotel. I was starting to freak, trapped in an elevator during a fire. I just knew I was going to fry. Then it dawn on me to push the door open button since the elevator was at the first floor. Hooray. Door opened. Finally after about one hour they let us back in the hotel and I waited and waited for an elevator to take me back to my floor and the danged fire alarm went off again, but at least this time, I knew to push the door open button. Then that night we had dinner in the hotel restaurant. I had never seen a restaurant where you had to pay extra for the salad, extra for the bread, etc. Was was expensive meal. Was a garbage strike going on while we were there. Then one day I decided I wanted to go to Macy's and I knew it was just straight down the same road where was our hotel, only about 30 or so blocks, I think. I figured, can do, because I used to walk about that far to go to college after work when I worked in down town Cleveland befo time. Well, I walked and I walked and I walked and I walked. My feet started hurting. I had blisters on my feet, so I figured I would take a cab when one came by. I never saw a stinkin' cab the whole way. Then I finally got there and went in the store and didn't even buy anything. Too many kala for me. I never saw a department store what sold like pate and stuff lidat. Not that I would eat any critter's liver. Then I found out I didn't see a cab because certain times of the day only permitted on every other street and the street I was walkiing on was not one of them. The next day Alan had off from going to his training class so we went to stand in line at some ticket place I think it was on Broadway and I think it was called "TKTS". No mo no how fo spell in NYC. We waited in line about 3 hours and finally when we got up to the front, none of the shows we wanted had TCKTS. We had to see some really weird show by a relatively unknown guy named Andrew Lloyd Weber. It was called Starlight Express and it was some very weird Cinderella kinda story but the people weren't people they were trains. It was like the diesel train against the steam train or someething lidat. All the cast were dressed up like trains and the whole show was done on in-line skates to make them move like trains. Vissual, it was swell. Story wise it was dumb. Then walking on the way back to the hotel after a shown, some guy panhandled Alan and Alan did not give him any money and the guy said something to the effect that Hey man, I'm hungry and you so fat, you can spare the money. Then Alan was depressed for like the whole rest of the week because the guy called him fat. Then after his class one day we wanted to take one tour of the city. We took a Grayline tour but the bus was packed. I tried to sit iin one seat by myself and Alan in another by himself, but the driver made us sit together. Alan was a very, very large man. I could not fit on the seat with him. I had to sit on the chrome pipe strip at the edge of the see. Well, not exactly on it, but with the pipe, well, in between my buttocks, if you must know. That is why I nevah will wear thong bebedees. Not comfortable. Otherwise, was a good tour. Then anoddah day we stay go see Statue of Liberty. For about 15 minutes. We waited and waited and waited to get a ferry ovah dea from I tink it was Battery Park (I did not see a single AA or even AAA and sure no 12 V). Wen we got gea, to go insai wait was 45 min. from wheah da sign stay, but last ferry outa deah only 20 minutes. Az y hahd. Den noddah day we decide to got to world trade centah go way up da elebaytah. More wait in da line if can beleeve. Had to pay plenny kala just fo ride one elbaytah to top da world trade centah. Was quick ride, yeah. Den we go up dea and was one nice vista but. Alan wanted to play spit off da building and he stay 5 years oldah den me. I tink mebbe I was about 38 or so, so he stay in his 40s. And he wanted fo play spit off da top. I could just peecha us in da hoosegow. I went far away from him in case he did spit, dey no tink I his frien. Den we time fo go back to hotel, we get one cab. I tink it costed choke kala. Den while we sitting at stop light, we see da cops chasing some guy on foot and dey have dey guns drawn. Ho, da skeah me. Den da bad guy try fo get in da with wit us! Good tiing da doahs stay lock. Skeah me summoah. Den next day I go to Central Paka by myself while Alan at da training. I step one foot insai da paka an one derelict kine guy wot in Cleveland live undah da freeway bridges, he squat down and do something shoulda been in da lua (not shishi). Right on da sidewalk in front erebody. Skeah me. I go back to hotel room and stay deah until time fogo home. Funny ting dey chahj kala for go on da Geo Washington bridge to get into NYC. But no chahj for get outta dea. Seems like mo peepo willing to pay to get out.
So I shuah hope you dawda, Petah, have mo bettah time. Andy, she can be you hanai college dawda. Den Petah no have fo pay da Mercedes, can only pay foah one Impala. Best wishes to youah dawdah for success in school and safety and hapiness in da big appo.
Wen owah dawda was at Univ. of stinking Cincinnati, we paid one swell kaa foah go hiamoe on plastic mattress in da dorm all patch up with duct tape. I am so glad she came home and went Kent State. But I onliest get 2 moah payments foah da Cincinnati boondoggle.
And owah dawda wot wen Cincinnati is leaving foah da High School Musical on Ice west coast tour tomorrow. She flies to Memphis and from there points west. Won't be home again until NEXT MAY! My baby won't be home for Christmas. Ah dunno.
But she will be in Seattle for Thanksgiving.
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 08/27/2008 07:27:16 AM
Message:Quote:"I think it was called "TKTS". No mo no how fo spell in NYC"
I think in NYC you must hafta pay for a vowel.
Zz Wh Hrd. Why you want to scare Peter about his daughter in New York? He got enough to worry about, buying a Mercedes and he won't even get keys for it. Cincinnatti wasn't much to brag about. I went to move her back home for the summer her second year. She had to be out of the dorm on Saturday of finals week. Trouble was, she was in Army Reserve and had to drill on Saturday and Sunday, so she couldn't leave Cincy till Sunday night. So I went down Friday morning and put all her stuff in my truck, and we moved into a hotel for the weekend. I took her to drill early each morning, but can't go back to the hotel, cause they try to clean the room. So I asked the desk clerk if there was a park I could go to. They looked at me like I asked for their checkbook or something. Why do you want a park, she says. I explaned, but she didn't even know where is a park in Cincy. At least no crook tried to get in my car. We get spoiled in Cleveland, our park system is really good. Even open in the winter, once they plow the snow off the roads.
Paul
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 08/27/2008 10:48:07 AM
Message:Ah she no scadem and us too coz she get 1 yeas experience already, she smart and get won good smart boyfren. But she iz always on my mind, howeva, you gotta do wot you gotta do to let da kids get ahead. So dis iz won education, and experience she kenna get in Hawaii. NYU has da bes film school in da country, including USC. So dis is wea da education and da connections have to be made in orda for her to get won real chance in da industry. Das life.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 08/27/2008 6:54:07 PM
Message:Still yet, NYC get ono pizza an' bagels an' Italian pastry shops. I can still tase da canoli!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 08/28/2008 01:06:19 AM
Message:Cleveland get choke same stuff, Kory. Shootz. Paul make da most ono pizza.
And of course, I have a cannoli story to tell. My best friend and I were going to make hommade cannoli. She had just bought a power machine for stuffing things like cannoli and making cookies you shoot out of the gun with the little discs that make hearts and trees and such. We both thought this machine would make it so easy and hassle free to stuff the cannoli. We made the dough. Wrapped it around the cannoli forms and fried the dought. While the shells were cooling, we made the filling. Tradition calls for either candied fruit or chocolate shavings or chips added to the sweetened ricotta cheese. We added chocolate chips which we chopped up first. The machine said not to put too big of chunks or the machine might not extrude the filling smoothly. We went to fill the dainty goodies and the machine would not shoot out the cheese for filling. She keps the power and pressure on and all of a sudden the motor whines and stalled and all of the cheese shot out of the back end of the gadget, spraying ricotta cheese all over us and the kitchen. And I don't even like cannoli. Another Lucy & Ethel moment. Turns out the chips clogged up the outlet and da buggah kept building up pressure.
Italian pastry in my experience, though, is dry, dry, dry, You gotta have plenty coffee or tea to eat Italian pastry.
For bagels, we get choke Jewish folks live ovaheah, so plenny opportunity for good bagels. Corky & Lenny's have great ones, and ono corned beef sandwiches and matzo ball soup. Or Slymans for the corned beef. Been on TV with Rachel Ray. The sandwiches are so big, cannot fit into even Joe E. Brown's open mouth. Now I am in a corned beef fantasy. Oh da ono. Oh da salty.
For pastry, I like Hungarian or German or Solvenian or Polish. Strudel, kolachky, stollen, paczky, Dobosh torte, etc. Darn, now I've done worked myself into a pastry fantasy.
Now az y hahd!
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 08/28/2008 05:54:42 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
Cleveland get choke same stuff, Kory. Shootz. Paul make da most ono pizza.
And of course, I have a cannoli story to tell. My best friend and I were going to make hommade cannoli. She had just bought a power machine for stuffing things like cannoli and making cookies you shoot out of the gun with the little discs that make hearts and trees and such. We both thought this machine would make it so easy and hassle free to stuff the cannoli. We made the dough. Wrapped it around the cannoli forms and fried the dought. While the shells were cooling, we made the filling. Tradition calls for either candied fruit or chocolate shavings or chips added to the sweetened ricotta cheese. We added chocolate chips which we chopped up first. The machine said not to put too big of chunks or the machine might not extrude the filling smoothly. We went to fill the dainty goodies and the machine would not shoot out the cheese for filling. She keps the power and pressure on and all of a sudden the motor whines and stalled and all of the cheese shot out of the back end of the gadget, spraying ricotta cheese all over us and the kitchen. And I don't even like cannoli. Another Lucy & Ethel moment. Turns out the chips clogged up the outlet and da buggah kept building up pressure.
Italian pastry in my experience, though, is dry, dry, dry, You gotta have plenty coffee or tea to eat Italian pastry.
For bagels, we get choke Jewish folks live ovaheah, so plenny opportunity for good bagels. Corky & Lenny's have great ones, and ono corned beef sandwiches and matzo ball soup. Or Slymans for the corned beef. Been on TV with Rachel Ray. The sandwiches are so big, cannot fit into even Joe E. Brown's open mouth. Now I am in a corned beef fantasy. Oh da ono. Oh da salty.
For pastry, I like Hungarian or German or Solvenian or Polish. Strudel, kolachky, stollen, paczky, Dobosh torte, etc. Darn, now I've done worked myself into a pastry fantasy.
Now az y hahd!
My fave - "pain au chocolate", from France! Trader Joe's sells the pain au chocolate as "chocolate croissants". They're frozen, 4 to a pack. You just set them out overniget, they thaw and rise, and you stick em in da oven fo 15 min, then serve em wid french roast coffee. Yum! I love Croissants, too with butter. Also, for breakfast: slice baguette thin on diagonal, on each piece spread creme fraiche and place fresh rasperries on top. Also yum!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 08/28/2008 06:07:12 AM
Message:Best pastry I ever had in my life: two places, actually. One is the French patisserie at France in Epcot. The other is at the Paris Hotel in Las Vegas. I bought pastry there every morning (which the hotel comp'ed after I won the jackpot on a progressive slot machine on an investment of $2.25). That is first time I ever had pain au chocolate and it was mighty fine. The grocery store here sells them, but they are nothing like that which I had in Las Vegas.
Another favorite Vegas memory is smelling the Krispy Kreme donuts at one of the hotels there. Oh, my. Onaona.
The way to a woman's heart. . .
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 08/28/2008 06:15:24 AM
Message:
quote:Smell 'em, yeah - but don't eat 'em, okay?
Originally posted by wcerto
Another favorite Vegas memory is smelling the Krispy Kreme donuts at one of the hotels there. Oh, my. Onaona.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 08/29/2008 04:10:11 AM
Message:Wanda, some people are born with 20/20 vision, some with 20/20 tastebuds.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 08/29/2008 05:59:43 AM
Message:Braddah Ed - that was mighty edumakashunal. Thank you for providing the opportunity fo learn da kine.
But still - Ah dunno if "dakine" is the propah ting or say it in two words "da kine" is propah.
And hacum so many Pidgin words from Japanese and not so many oddah peepos? Tell me some words what come from oddah peepos not Japanese.
Tanks, eh.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 08/29/2008 06:29:57 AM
Message:
quote:Lotta pidgin comes from English - da kine, bebedees, bumbye, kay den ...
Originally posted by wcerto
And hacum so many Pidgin words from Japanese and not so many oddah peepos? Tell me some words what come from oddah peepos not Japanese.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 08/29/2008 11:59:30 AM
Message:No fo'get "li'dat", "cockaroach", etc.
Da language no stay broke, even dough da guys still stay fixing'em.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 08/29/2008 12:57:41 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
But still - Ah dunno if "dakine" is the propah ting or say it in two words "da kine" is propah.
Ah sista, no worry lidat. Just go for it. We no use spall check, and even if we did still wouldn't make won difference -- we get Hawaiian rules as opposed to California rules.
PM
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/03/2008 02:14:36 AM
Message:If you guyz on da mainland stay homesick, chrai watch Kawika's latest video. Some old island clips and some couple of new ones with Duke and Jay hiding out in deah (chrai spock da buggahz - like where's Waldo-san). But the greatest, besses ting bout dis music playing in da backgroun, gets JAY playing kiho`alu and Dukie playing `ukulele wit dey friend Darryl playing bass and makiing all da ackoodermonts, Jay been hiding his light under da booshel, yeah?
Chrai lissen Jay playing slack key guitar, Duke playing `ukulele, Darryl on base, playing Moe `Uhane. Great job, my sons, great job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHJD6H1hSVw
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 09/03/2008 09:04:06 AM
Message:Sweet.
Paul
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/03/2008 12:56:38 PM
Message:Yikes. E kala mai. I did not even know it was going on ovah on da noddah tread. I still proud dem boys and Braddah Ed, soun like you proud dem too. An no foget Kawika put em all togeddah fo showcase my guyz lidat.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/03/2008 6:48:59 PM
Message:Glenn, you oneh stay two yeahs less makule den me, bustah. Shootz. You prolly no can speah anyting nowdayz, since aren't you da one tole me from first hand experience what is "chiisai" or wotevah dat little ting, Hah, dat reminds me dat Iz song "Margarita", we go in da dahk and no need da speah. OK, Glenn, go back to your C6 or whatevah dat tuning you stay obsessed wit.
Did you see dat guy catch da BEEG fish on da Barbie Princess fishing rod he cockaroach from his dawdah. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26335667/
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/04/2008 5:15:56 PM
Message:I no even get one goat. I get one popoki. Goats stay make da flies come. I hate damn flies. Lidat song bout dem damn fly ish on top da liddo grocery man.
You catch tree fish one line wit tree hooks, az not tree at one time. As called trot line.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/05/2008 02:24:42 AM
Message:Y Glenn honey, you no I get oni choke aloha for you. You, too Ed da Insteegeiddah. Got CHOKE aloha for you. Choke. Az choke. Yeah daz what I mean, CHOKE. Aloha, dat is.
Reply author: alika207
Replied on: 09/05/2008 4:32:40 PM
Message:My opinion is that if it's an okay situation, you should take every opportunity you have to practice something you love, the broken or Pigeon English in this case. BTW I love hearing, speaking, and writing in Pigeon, so no mattah. One time at a camp that me and Kamalani were at, there was this other boy there who's majoring in Spanish, which me and Kama both take in school. Whenever the three of us would meet up with each other at meals or during free time, we would always practice. Life was good until one day when a student and a few staff members told us that they only wanted us to pracctice when no one else was around us. All of us didn't care, however. Like I said, if you have the opportunity to do something, do it.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 09/06/2008 08:05:48 AM
Message:Wanda ... ai undastan ... az y i oni buss laff. I won undastanding lolo so I undastan dat when you won makule ole fut can get to be CHOKE lolo an CHOKE pupule too due to the CHOKE disintegration of the cerebral cortex and chemical synapsis of axons and dendrites.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/06/2008 08:13:18 AM
Message:oooh, I love it when you talk all akamai lidat.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/07/2008 1:50:40 PM
Message:Very akamai dat Bulai`ia. Smaht way for save watah and kala, yeah? Why we no tink of dat? In W. Va., we all use da same watah in da big galbanized tub. Mo bettah be first one fo bafe. Dat why da fraze "trow da baby out wit da baffwatah" went staht. By time da youngest keed get turn, dirty dat watah, hauna kine. Dat also why da weddings come in June. Da peepo go bafe fresh in May or June lidat, since nomo freezin cold ovaheah. So den smell onaona for get married and den do stuff what da married peepo do dat hemo skin stuff. And first one you guyz what make joke about W. Va. and marriage and brothers goin get false crack.
Good ting he no save watah let da `ilio lick da plates clean.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/07/2008 1:52:01 PM
Message:PS: Glenn, you no I neva can be huhu at you. You tell too many good stories. You should tell some dem obake stories den.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/07/2008 1:56:41 PM
Message:And here Bulai`ia show how to choose da bestest shohtz. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH26k5_vdJ8&feature=related
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/11/2008 02:39:33 AM
Message:Whatevah happened to dat Bula`ia? Where he now?
All you O`ahu guyz, my friend Pam going holoholo O`ahu Saturday fo 2 week. She also too goin hele Big Island for visit volcano. She going stay Hale Koa, I tink Noelani Cipriano kani deah, but I tole her for go see Martin dem, but I tink Martin dem going be Kaleponi, dat right? So I tole her go see dat CUTE Ocean Kaowili, Uncle Eddie guyz at Honey's. But I tink Mike Ka`awa goin be Kaleponi, dat right? So I tole her go Hawaii Kai for see Led, but I tink Led goin be Kaleponi, dat right?
So who da heck Pam going see? I tole her go Chai's see Uncle Jerry dem. Maybe he stay home no go Kaleponi. She taking her dawdah with her & her husband. I hope she no fix her dawdah up wit Barry Kimokeo. I like MY dawdah get chance. She don't no much Hawaiian music. She only know liddobit maybe Iz kine, so dis one chance fo malihini fo fall in love wit da music.
My dawdah say dat becawz all dem tropical stormz an hurrikeinz down da Gulf from Mexico, dat circus animoz had fo get evackuaided, so at her High School Musical on Ice, dey get ellefinks stay da ice rink inna basement ovah deah in Memphis. Dey make plenny ferdillaiser dem.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/11/2008 12:56:41 PM
Message:Eh, u no we stay have dis tread fo while now. Duke go staht em I tink while we was ovah deah, maybe chree monts awredeh. Do u tink I geddem da kine lesson good? Owah should I stay study mo hahd. Eh?
ps: Here da peechas bot my dawdahs, left is Karen, age 28, get one boy friend why da he#% dey nomo get married? and da noddah one is Marianne, age 26 (almost, soon), get one B.A. in Tee`eidah Technology from Kent State University (yep, da one bout 4 makeh die dead in Ohio). Get one full time job, working, making kala.
Well, OK, making da costumes also too. She may be coming to a city near you soon.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 09/11/2008 4:14:04 PM
Message:Eh, Wanda, I on'y wen' spock 1&3/4 dottahs. Camera too small?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 09/11/2008 5:18:37 PM
Message:Eh, tita ma,
Yoa dawdas real preddy. What happened? I would be reel proud too anden.
Reply author: hikabe
Replied on: 09/11/2008 5:46:52 PM
Message:I break into pidgeon among locals only, and only in person. I would excuse myself from conversations with most of the posters here. Some of you are trying so hard that it seems contrite and silly. Some of you are going way overboard to the extent that it seems similar to blackface. I guess it is fun for some, but a turn off for me. I feel insulted. Like talking gaga to a baby, assuming the baby is too stupid to understand the language. Pidgeon is mostly a breakdown of Japanese, who are prevalent in the islands.
It seems I may be the only one that thinks posting in broken english is a turn off. Am I a grouch, or are there others who feel the same way. Email me if you do. I won't read this thread. I only got through a few and had enough.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/11/2008 11:05:31 PM
Message:Petah - whachu mean "what happened"??? I tink dey take aftah dey Daddy, cept nomo beahd (yet).
And Dukie, please nomo huhu. You get choke moah aloha.
Wen someone pos someting I no agree wit, I considah deah view point. Bumbai I learn sumtin'. I wen learn about Hiram awreddeh. Mahaloz, Hiram, for teachin me mo den u no.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/11/2008 11:15:58 PM
Message:PS - Kory only 1 3/4 dawdahz cos Karen take dey own peecha lidat. I do not have hardly any current peechas dem togeddah, hard fo get dem togeddah same time same place.
Dis da Marianne holoholo skedyu for Da Hi Skoo Muziko on Eis. I tink she say mohslee preteen wahinez liddo girlz like dis. Ahdunno y. Pretty lame, but. So see, she comin to a city neah u. I nomo see her til next May, long time dat. She going be LA fo Kalikimaka, nomo dreamin of a white Christmas.
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Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 09/12/2008 12:57:44 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
Petah - whachu mean "what happened"??? I tink dey take aftah dey Daddy, cept nomo beahd (yet).
Yeah, coz I woz wonderin anden. You stay da anointed won yeah, but deez keeds no mo even mustache. Go try lif da ahm see if get da limu?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/12/2008 02:16:41 AM
Message:No limu. Shave. We girlz shave way mo dan dey daddy. He stopped shaving long about 1972.
Reply author: hikabe
Replied on: 09/12/2008 10:41:04 AM
Message:Pidgeon english is not exclusive to hawaii. Any time peoples of two ethnic backgrounds try to communicate, you get a synthesis of both and it will sound like what a lot of people think is exclusive to the hawaiian community.
Duke asks is posting a turn off. The premise is implied. But then my opinion is dispelled as lunacy.
In dukes first post, phrases like "don't want to offend anyone", alludes to the chance that it may be offensive to some people. That is what I am addressing here. If the thread started out saying "Let's Talk Pidgeon" I would'nt have responded.
I agree with sirduke on most of his observations. I have never represented or try to speak for others, including hawaiians. I never speak for anyone but myself. I am a banana in a lot of ways. I love rocking the boat, especially when it is overloaded with junk. I don't really like the negative attention I get, but am not afraid to express an opinion. Phoney and ignorant are words meant to hurt my feelings, I guess. Cyber-rage so to speak. I am neither.
High maka maka, yes, thanks. A scrub? In what regard? As a human or an artist? As a human, perhaps. As an artist, bring it!
Royal Hawaiian? No! Just another earthling.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 09/12/2008 11:37:12 AM
Message:
quote:Hikabe,I think you should read more carefully,cause nowhere does it say "is posting a turn off" in fact there's nothing about what's your opinion.About "let's talk pidgeon" there was an invitation but it was not an obligation,it was a choice.You say you don't like the negative attention you get,but are willing to express you opinion,no problem just make sure when you rock the boat,you're in the right boat.Nowhere did the post ask for an opinion,but was merely an invitation to all.Plain and simple
Originally posted by sirduke58
Does our posting in "Broken English" make you feel like you're being excluded from the
conversation? Does it feel like we are part of a "click" who only correspond amongst a
select group of people? Do you not feel comfortable with your grasp or understanding of
"Pidgin" English & tend to shy away from such conversations because you feel inadequate
or don't want to risk offending anyone?
Well let me formally invite everyone to take part in these "Broken English" posts.Our
intention is never to exclude anyone,it's mostly to inject a little Hawaii into the
conversation.There is no obligation to respond in like manner,because we "Pidgin"
speakers also speak "Textbook English" Hey I'm finally bilingual
We all have a lot of common interests.Seems like a dirty shame to be separated by either implied,inferred or invisible walls. E KOMO MAI!!! I came here because of Ki ho'alu,I
don't care what your IQ level,Ethnic make-up,musical ability,economic status or whatever
is.If you're good people,I'd like to get acquainted & share
Malama pono
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/12/2008 11:44:22 AM
Message:OK Hiram. We get your opinion. And I respect your opinion. You're not going to change, nor am I. We have fun over here, a great sense of camaraderie. Gee, matter of fact, more than camaraderie. Some people call it aloha, but I already know that you do not like that word, especially coming from haoles, as you have written on the forum in the past. This thread metamorphosed into something great. It permitted people to have fun. It is very creative to try to discern "local speak" and figure out ways to spell the words.
I think Duke's original idea was more about if people who do not understand pidgin feel left out of the conversations because there may be words and phrases which they do not understand. Like for instance when Peter posted earlier about if my daughters had limu. Many people might not understand what he meant by that. But I found it friendly, fun and amusing. It makes for a great camaraderie without anyone feeling they need to mind their p's and q's, so to speak.
May we please agree to disagree and the subject and those who have fun with this thread can continue having fun with this thread.
You do not have to be ashamed of your Hawaiianess and try to hide it by disdaining something that is uniquely Hawaiian. And you do not need to insinuate that those who do use it are inferior in any way.
You may teach music and you certainly have students on this forum who recognize your talents and appreciate them. I have even commented on your art skills, myself. You are a very remarkable visual artist. But one thing that I think is more important that your technical music skills or your artistic ability is that Duke has taught aloha to me and to my husband. They have set such a shining example for us, both he and Jay. They have opened their hearts to not only us, but so many other people who have met them either through this forum or through You Tube. Duke and Jay sharing their aloha has had profound impact on my life and on those around me. Because of the aloha they share, it has caused me to share my aloha with others and on and on and on. The aloha is growing exponentially. Their humility is also a sign of their great aloha. They never toot their own horn. They are never guilty of blatant self promotion. They are comfortable in their own skins and do not have to constant belittle others to build themselves up. They do not have to constantly tell, no demand, that others recognize their superior talents.
You don't like pidgin. OK. Move on then. The rest of us pitiful folks obah heah in black face, massah, we gwine stay.
Aloha is.... That song Uncle Moe sang, was a beautiful lesson to us all. The concept of ho`opono is a beautiful thing as well. You can start putting the light back into your calabash if you want.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 09/12/2008 1:17:39 PM
Message:Hiram,
There are better and more efficient ways to take care of a problem than the path that you are taking now. Use some common sense and try meeting people at least half way. This is best way to solve what ever problem you may be facing. And you should be aware of this especially since you are trying to make a living by teaching Hawaiian music in the Bay area. You as a teacher should not put yourself in a position where you have to rehabilitate whatever good public image you may have had.
Too many of your postings are confrontational, insulting or intimidating. Unless this is the only way you have of relating to other people, you will not have very many students. Teaching is a people business. I know this from almost forty years of teaching slack key. And any public comments that you post will be perceived not only by the members of this forum, but also by potential students. If you don’t think students or the parents do background research on music teachers, you better wake up. You may be discouraging potential students from signing up with you.
I’m sure that sometime in your life, either your parents or your teachers must have told you “if you cannot say something good about somebody, don’t say anything.” The reason for this is that if you do go out of your way to cause trouble, it may come back at you in ways that you do not expect, thus making your life more difficult. Also, as you may have learned as a performing musician, not only is the first impression that you make upon an audience important, but every performance and comment that you make in public is important and can be questioned.
About three months ago after your trip back home to Hawaii and after much public bitching and woe is me moaning about how bad your trip was, you declared some embarrassment for posting your comments in this forum, and you would be leaving. Now you are back and you are starting off on the wrong foot again. Have you learned anything during your hiatus about relating to people on the internet? Are you disclosing too much about yourself? Or are you just a bad writer? Something is definitely wrong here, because apparently you are unable to help yourself. You have to use some common sense.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 09/12/2008 1:56:23 PM
Message:Uncle Petah, pehea oe? School stahted arreddy? In Seattle, get dat autumn chill dat says summah stay pau even if da sun is out.
Pretty soon, goin' have da smell of wood smoke in da ea and dat's goin make me ono fo' pumpkin pie. Ju'li'dat. Ju'like I'm Pavlov's dog (easy, dea, GS) I smell da fir' fiyah in somboddy's fiyah place, an' I like eat pumpkin pie.
In da meantime, I am so `ono fo' fried chicken or sweet/sour chicken. No kauna intended. Draw yo' own conclusions.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 09/12/2008 2:36:37 PM
Message:Eh Kaneohe girligirl,
I kinda miss da fall weda, wen da seasons change lidat. I would watch da aspen trees turn gold anden alla da udda trees change orange-red up da foothills up in da Rockies, anden get even mo color wen you go moa mauka. It's a good time fo fly fish, da wadas low anda fish stay mo hungry.
I rememba, I rememba da sweet smell of logs burning in da fiaplace -- those days were good, good to snuggle up wid your honey. But now I tink naaaaah! Kaneohe's mobetta fo me. But when I retiah my wife n I talking like eh mebbe can go live mainland half da yeah and at home half da yeah coz my dawda goin be working mainland lidat. But we'll see, depends on how da economy goes. If da economy is bad we goin stay home no waste money. If good den we go try.
School started and get plany work. Was just like I was gone one whole yea, but no mo sabbatical. Da teaching is good, what is tiring is alla da committees and da meetings wea we bang heads. As usual we already planning fo next yeah lidat. Eda da students looking younger and younger oa my eyes gedding older and older. Excep fo da Samoan guyz, da students small now dayz. Da teachas lidat plany guyz goin retiah preddy soon we all old. Get won new crop coming.
Ahui hou.
Reply author: hikabe
Replied on: 09/12/2008 2:48:27 PM
Message:The thread is tittled, Is Posting In "Broken English" a turn off.
Point taken Wanda. Love is always a good thing to spread around. You call it aloha. I call it love and good will.
Thanks Peter. I appreciate the advice.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/12/2008 3:50:28 PM
Message:Nomo can smell leaves burning. Gainst da law now. But onaona. Dat smell sure make remembah befo time.
We get one fiahplace in da lin room. Not much make fiah. Makes one big messy mess in da house. Skead popoki will 'splore da fiya, she mo niele den me if can believe. Plus gotta stay awake until pau ahi so house no burn down. But den what if I get sleepy need go hiamoe? I might be, just MIGHT be, enough makule dat I nomo stay awake late. Mattah of fact, ha-ha, I nevah was a stay awake late person. I get up early.
I speckt not mo den 2 weeks get frost ovah heah Cleveland. But I love autumn. So beautiful da whole worl. Da trees oh so pretty; da krissanfamums all kine pretty cullahs; all dem ducks, geese flyin in da sky. Even da golden rod an ragweed an iron weed nani. Watah staht to taste mo bettah, nomo algae bloom da city watah supply. Cool enough for cook soup and stews. Mmmm, love soup. Can go pick appose right from da tree. MacIntosh da besest. Can go get da fresh cidah from da cidah mill to Sunrise Fahm anden get da hot fresh apple frittah, slice appose in rings lidat an den dip in battah an deep fry like tempura. Ho da ono. But it time den fo staht Christmas shoppin. Ui-ha!
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 09/12/2008 3:57:25 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by hikabe
As an artist, bring it!
Hoh, bout time ged somebodeh fo take Guava place. Guava wen cheeken out. Eh neya mine, in mah art he no goin lass 1 min. Jalike fishing fo small kine hinalea.
Eh Braddah Pete? Intimidating? Moah like plenneh moskito ste buzz aroun da hed. I nomo common sense so I no can take yo advise.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 09/12/2008 4:12:32 PM
Message:Eh Bruddah Hiram,
No feel too bad. You not da only won who wen miss da boat on dis won. You know da saying “kenna judge won book by its’ cova’, dat really applies to dis topic – you neva wen read oa go tru da whole tread – das okay, 50 oa moa pages of bad spelling is kind of daunting. But fo me anden quite a few of da udda locals, dis topic “Broken English is it one turnoff?” iz da mos important one in da history of taropatch so far. Dis won as dey say iz cathartic, it certainly changed da makeup of taropatch. No udda tread even comes close, brudda.
I been hea long time, so I get won good idea of wot haz happened on dis entire forum. Fo da firz time you get local guyz talking meaningfully to udda mainland guyz. Talking bout good times, talking bout bad times; talking anykind. It neva happen befoa on da taropatch until dis posting.
Da local guyz came out of da lurking mode to wala`au. Do you know da significance of dat? Mos local guyz on da mainland stay inda backgroud lidat, unless dey running fo president den dey gotta step up.
Wen Duke wen post dis first time, he neva expect what waz goin happen. He was jez inviting alla da mainland guyz who no unnastan pidgin eh bradda, eh sistah, you can join in da conversation too. Sorry if you kenna unnastan, but go try wait, we go help you unnastan. Dats it.
If dea pidgin sucks dats okay, dey goin get betta eventually oa dey goin give up anden go into lurk mode, but at least get chance for engage wid dem. We don’t all talk good, bud at least we try.
Alla da local bruddahs who now live on da mainland now lidat, like bruddah Ed “guavasunrise”; brudda Glenn “menpachiman”; 1st nation brudda Chris “ypochris” and alla da Seattle bruddahs (if I foget anybody sorry eh, but I’m shooting from da hip) saw dis as won chance to talk pidgin -- das dea firz language wid da udda guyz . Now moa people den eva, guyz who neva wen go Keola’s oa George’s camp coz de no moa money, stay talking to each udda lidat and dey stay connecting on different levels wea it neva wen happen befoa.
Admittedly da writing part kinda hard coz nomo spell check anden depending upon wot island you from, you get different styles and words lidat. Da mainland guyz dea trying hard fo learn and de are actually doing preddy good coz da buggas staying in contact and working wid da local boys and local girl. Itz not a good idea too pudem down, coz dey trying hahd at oua invitation fo ova tree monts. And daz why peepo getting defensive lidat.
But go try get on da boat, get room.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 09/12/2008 4:17:31 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Menpachi Man
I nomo common sense so I no can take yo advise.
Eh brudda glenn,
I neva wen call you won babooze yeah?
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 09/12/2008 5:48:22 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
But now I tink naaaaah! Kaneohe's mobetta fo me.
Kane`ohe mo bettah. No havto put on chree layahs clothes jus' fo' leave da house. If staht to rain, goin' stop in 15 minutes. Get Deluxe Bakery. Get Pahke's. Get Nanko's. Get Led, Mike, Kelly Boy, an' Nathan dem.
But if you guyz come Seattle, get planny places wit' local food. An' it's akshually pretty nice from July-September. An' get planny lolos fo' kanikapila wit. (GS, shhhhhh.)
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 09/12/2008 5:51:08 PM
Message:Is common sense all that common?
Things I learned in conjunction with slack key:
Portagee bean soup
Portagee sausage
Poi (how foa eat'em, ono you know!)
Spam musubi
Katsu
Shave ice (ice shave whatevahs)
Adobo
Pancit Canton
OK, nuff food talk.
In the Hawaiian community around these parts, I've seen the tremendous work that goes into making community. It's easy to lose track of that in the clicker-punching, mall-going world.
The good attributes I've observed my folks would have called "old country" in the best sense of the term. Humans need to be reminded that we are based on the land and bound to the seasons and responsible to care for well being of our fellows.
Jus' press.
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 09/12/2008 6:36:24 PM
Message:I like pidgin coz can talk story cross da lines & stay'come fromm da puuwai. Daz wai. Wen I stay feex car, I like one friend fo help who know what "da kine" fo go-make/get, at da correct "da kine" time, in da correct "da kine" place, fo make "da kine" work. Dis how pidgin click, wen da hart know stay rite-on-da-kini-pono.
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 09/12/2008 6:39:55 PM
Message:Besides, Momi get one rite-on-da-kini-pono pharse, "he self-contained", like "he travel self-contain). If you stay grooved, da intuition give you all-kine p'chars in da head. And, they are correct! Dasz pidgin!
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 09/12/2008 6:54:41 PM
Message:Eh, Mempachi! Was only one partial list, brah, jus' foa provide one frame of reference.
Humans: Individually we are idiocyncratic. Collectively we are crazy.
Good t'ing we get da clip-on tuners!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/12/2008 7:15:45 PM
Message:Eh, Braddah Glenn: I no awkshun da dawdahs, I geev 'em. You no kenna make me huhu. I have noting but aloha fo you. An nobodeh tink you lolo. Peepo tink you akamai an write da besest stories evah. Like da futs and da futless.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 09/12/2008 7:15:52 PM
Message:Hahaha Brah! I woz oni jokeen bout da liss. U no me! I akchoolee iz da jokah. Wa kine werd is idiocyncratic??? Hoh, ste tahk $10 werd. Me I no can figgah da kine $10 werds coz I juss won lolo. Bud I won time, I wen go memorize da dikshunarie so yea, idiosyncratically speaking, I no wot u mean. I cood akchoolee rite sykoanalytiko dissertations on a few posters on dis site. Dey real facinating to me. Espeshully Guava-man. Hehe, nah, nah ... I peek on heem coz eef we woz livin same place he wood be mah bess fren.
Eh Unko Herb, eef I evah make mah millions, I breeng you home. Need peepo like u bak home.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 09/12/2008 8:48:22 PM
Message:Menpachi,you sleepah.Ninja in disguise,yeah duke gave me da info on you.Lolo I no tink so,what you get mastahs degree or one phd?I heard you also in top shape,how can if you drink beeyah.What da secret? K-den sleepah.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 09/12/2008 9:26:52 PM
Message:
quote:Hikabe you right about threads title,my bad I need to read more careful.What you wen remove your e-mail address?If can e-mail me.Aloha
Originally posted by hikabe
The thread is tittled, Is Posting In "Broken English" a turn off.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/13/2008 01:37:38 AM
Message:Maybe Dukie can edit da taito da tread. Maybe like 'You are cordially and sincerely invited to join us in our loquaciousness by replying to random topics in Hawaiian Creole English. Additionally we shall be more than pleased to assist in your quest to speak and write this beautiful language should you so request a Creole speaker's aid. Shootz den. "
Reply author: Kawika96797
Replied on: 09/13/2008 02:58:59 AM
Message:Geez, dis is a huge thread. For what it's worth, here is my 2 cents.
First of all, I talk pidgeon like any other local kid who grew up in Hawaii. But from a purely technical and practical standpoint, I no see da point in using excessive pidgeon when writng for print. Da idea behind a creole language was to aid comunications between different races, right? Pidgeon was, and is, a shortcut alternative to learning da whole language of the people next door. Honestly, I have a hard time reading some of the words when they are spelled phonetically. It takes longer fo my brain to undastand'em. If it takes longer fo my brain to catch on, den das not a shortcut to communication and it defeats the purpose of pidgeon english. IMHO, I think pidgeon in writing has only 2 uses:
1- to eliminate typing out the entire word or phrase.
eg. Normal-"That is why the situation is difficult"
Pidgeon- "ass why hard"
2- to convey a casual mood or casual approach.
eg. Normal- "I am upset with you. Please stop doing that!"
Pidgeon- "wow laulau, no make li'dat"
In the former example, if you spoke those words to the bruddah down Waianae-side dat when fly open his car door in da parking lot and when ding yo fender, you guys gonna be throwing some blows in da parking lot.
But if you chose the phrase in the latter example, he would probly say "oh sorry brah" and hele on fo get his plate lunch and dig out.
So das my opinion on dis matter. But like Dirty Harry sez, "Opinions are like a--holes. Everybody has one."
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 09/13/2008 06:02:49 AM
Message:When people speaking 2 or more dialects come together, "accent levelling" takes place. More easy foa share recipes.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 09/13/2008 06:05:51 AM
Message:Braddah Jay:
I tink I had phd but I no remembah coz I lolo.
Wen u drink beeya, drink lite beeya, 95 cals one can. Mo cheep too. Den no eat too much. 12 pack is aroun 1000 cals. Dat is my limit at one sitting give o take a coupo. If gotta eat, den eat low fat protein fo rebuil da mussoh. No eat nuts, chips, hi-fat meats, pizza an junk lidat. No need da carbs and fats, coz da beeya an alchohol is da carbs. Need lean protein like po'ke or egg whites or nomo taste kine meat. If u train 5 days a week fo 2 hrs a day den no get fat if dreenk 2-3 beeya per day an follow wot I jus said. Wen I say 2 hrs a day, it is a hard 2 hrs. Because my gym is empty wen I go, I move from one weight excersize to onaddah one pretty fass. An in between gotta do fass running, massho art forms or heavy bag work if get. I go moah fo maxing out on reps raddah den max weights so I no lose speed from getting too big. Bumby fall in da ocean wen I pick opihi. Also excess mussoh eat up da O2 too fass wen diving. Anden wen training, no stop fo notting, ..... except ... wen get wahine fo look at. Az y u go wen empty so nomo distractions.
Gotta get dicipline if u like dreenk beeya an be in shape.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/13/2008 06:50:49 AM
Message:Dat why you go to da gym fo spock all da tendahroni in da tite spandecks. Oni ting you ecksasize is yo maka. An yo ehbow from liftin dose beah canz. Make shua you resaiko dem cans, kden.
Should I post da peecha you tigah form or da flying kick? Which one?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/13/2008 06:53:45 AM
Message:PS: Glenn, if I post you peecha, you get plenny wahines. Dey all be e-mailing you lidat. Choke e-mails. All saying I get chance o wot.
And yes, Braddah Ed, I no Glenn way too makule for my dawdah.
Reply author: Kawika96797
Replied on: 09/13/2008 08:23:38 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Menpachi Man
Braddah Jay:
I tink I had phd but I no remembah coz I lolo.
Wen u drink beeya, drink lite beeya, 95 cals one can. Mo cheep too. Den no eat too much. 12 pack is aroun 1000 cals. Dat is my limit at one sitting give o take a coupo. If gotta eat, den eat low fat protein fo rebuil da mussoh. .
Gotta get dicipline if u like dreenk beeya an be in shape.
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Make sense to me. If I drink 1 12 pak, I be unconcious. den I no eat nuttin. Lose plenty weight li'dat
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/13/2008 08:57:14 AM
Message:Glenn you must eat like a bachelor single man. Yikes. Nomo healthy that way. Need to follow d afood pyramid.
A good diet is not tofu and beer. You ova deah Iowa, get corn and other farm fresh goodies.
I nevah like you end up like me, broken down junk. You do all the conditioning and stuff, think from the inside out instead. You know mobettah.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 09/13/2008 09:00:19 AM
Message:
quote:Menpachi man,das one haad one to follow,man I tink I fail about 90% of dat advice.I love to eat,six pack limit..I wish,no mo taste kine meat...I no can,weight training...someday,masho arts kine training...if I like one cardiac arrest.But I get hope,if one braddah like you can be in da shape you in,den should be mathematically easy,I came up with 180...degrees that is,as in turn around.O.K I goin start one new ting called befoe and aftah,you seen my pictcha wit wanda dem das,da befoe.5'4'at 217lb
Originally posted by Menpachi Man
Braddah Jay:
I tink I had phd but I no remembah coz I lolo.
Wen u drink beeya, drink lite beeya, 95 cals one can. Mo cheep too. Den no eat too much. 12 pack is aroun 1000 cals. Dat is my limit at one sitting give o take a coupo. If gotta eat, den eat low fat protein fo rebuil da mussoh. No eat nuts, chips, hi-fat meats, pizza an junk lidat. No need da carbs and fats, coz da beeya an alchohol is da carbs. Need lean protein like po'ke or egg whites or nomo taste kine meat. If u train 5 days a week fo 2 hrs a day den no get fat if dreenk 2-3 beeya per day an follow wot I jus said. Wen I say 2 hrs a day, it is a hard 2 hrs. Because my gym is empty wen I go, I move from one weight excersize to onaddah one pretty fass. An in between gotta do fass running, massho art forms or heavy bag work if get. I go moah fo maxing out on reps raddah den max weights so I no lose speed from getting too big. Bumby fall in da ocean wen I pick opihi. Also excess mussoh eat up da O2 too fass wen diving. Anden wen training, no stop fo notting, ..... except ... wen get wahine fo look at. Az y u go wen empty so nomo distractions.
Gotta get dicipline if u like dreenk beeya an be in shape.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 09/13/2008 10:07:30 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
You ova deah Iowa, get corn and other farm fresh goodies.
Ah donno about dat, Wanda. Wen I go Iowa, I eat planny fried food. Da corn is unreal ono, but don't have dat all yeah.
Reply author: Kawika96797
Replied on: 09/13/2008 10:51:34 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Momi
Posting in pidgin uses a different part of my brain. English is such an arbitrary and, at times, tyrannical language that being able to break with convention can be a joy.
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Eh Momi-I tink you right. It does use a different part of da brains. Too bad, I tink so, part of mines stay broke.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 09/13/2008 4:12:35 PM
Message:Eh, Mempachi! You mean da camera no stay broke afta you wen' have your "sitting"?
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 09/13/2008 5:23:29 PM
Message:Yea, Cory, da camera wen broke. Had won young wahine at my gym hu insisted dat she take some pickchas. I woz 50 at dat time. Eh Wanda, u can pos' da fly in da air one if you like. I kaina jalike Momi, no like sho da face to da worl. Bud eh, neya mine, go pos' da tigah form one again if u like. Az some lumpai lolo said: "As an artist, bring it."
Wanda, you advising me about diet and eksasize is like won junkalunka Escort tellin won Ferrari how fo go fastah. My diet is not that of an ignorant single man. No can fine plenneh guys hu can tolerate my spartan diet. My knowledge of biochemistry and nutrition is quite extensive. I oni wen pos how fo dreenk beeya an not get fat or oudah shape. Not wot my regulah entire regime is. Da food pyramid is lolo. A regime should be customized to an individual genetic make up and lifestyle. Da food pyramid will not turn u into a Ferarri.
Peepo at mah werk place ste amazed at wot I ged in my draws. I tell em how fo make da brain moah akamai by eksasize an nutrition. heheh ... excep fo da beeya paht. Aniway, goin take onnadah 5 pages fo tell wot kine regime I keep. Dis is all so dat I can keep goin fisheeng at da kine lolo kine place wea some guyz ma'ke o ged hert.
Braddah Jay, u like go down to 180? Staht slow, bumby da bodeh too soah an u goin geeve up. Cut out da OIL an SUGAH. Enuff carbs fo kick staht fat burn. Den da hahd paht, wen u hit da wall gotta be hahd koa intense fo keep goin. Mind ovah mattah brah. Az if yo life ste on da line. Heheh, akchoolee yo life iz on da line. Weekday won hr nuff until ged condishun, den go samoah, den if ged time on da weekend u go try hikin fo 2-3 hrs or go join gym, adleese ged eye-candi. Uphill walk/run iz good. Set up won regime an make em yo life. Go until no can move. Once u cut down da junks, da bodeh ajuss, anden wen u eat junks, da bodeh no like.
Kaina like playin slack key, no happen by magik. Gotta werk hahd at em. An gotta be consistent. Erry singo day. If hahd den take break coupo dayz, den go again. No slack off. e-mail me if you like direkshun.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 09/13/2008 7:40:57 PM
Message:
quote:Out of context, this phrase made me stop cold.
Originally posted by Menpachi Man
Peepo at mah werk place ste amazed at wot I ged in my draws.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/14/2008 12:53:32 AM
Message:Eh, I was sorry I wen jump da gun and put a peecha Menpachi witout his permission.
Yeah, it is funny me telling him about diet! He right about that, except I no junkalunk Escort, I one American Motors Gremlin or maybe Yugo or Corvair or Edsel. Well, I have learned my lesson about nutrition, though. That is for sure. Learned it the very hard way.
OK, here are the Menpachi pictures.
Reply author: Kawika96797
Replied on: 09/14/2008 08:47:00 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Menpachi Man
I tell em how fo make da brain moah akamai by eksasize an nutrition. heheh ... excep fo da beeya paht.
I think that beer DOES make you smarter.
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"Well ya see, Norm, it's like this... A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers." - "The Buffalo Theory" Cliff Claven - Cheers
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/14/2008 09:58:32 AM
Message:Well, from lookin at da peechas, sure looks like da method work foah Menpachi.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 09/14/2008 1:43:10 PM
Message:Just like vision, not everyone has 20/20 eyesight. Not everyone has 20/20 tastebuds.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 09/16/2008 7:19:21 PM
Message:
quote:Yeah, Ed, you gotta stop posting anden deleting. Sometimes, I miss a couple days on the computer (like this coming weekend, when we'll be gone for four days), and we neva see um.
Originally posted by guavasunrise
But I nevah tink anybody saw my post because you guys wen go leave da buggah hanging out deya unanswered and flapping in da breeze like da dirty bebadees I brought back from Vegas, so I wen go hemo da buggah.
Glad you had good time with all the Vegas folks, btw.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/17/2008 12:35:01 PM
Message:Eh Dukie, I can tell you plenny stories and stuffs to do Las Vegas. Das wheah I stay win $32,000 cash money kala. I had a very pleasant trip.
Chrai find Gary Haleamau when you go deah. He works at the Liberace Museum, I tink. Maybe now he get diffrent job, ahdunno. Usta have one lu`au at the Imperial Palace outside on da roof Tuesdays and Thursdays. Even though it is one tourist lu`au still kaukau was preddy good and music was great if you love and appreciate real Hawaiian music. Of course, they did some of the Elvis junk, but the real stuff was great. Ahdunno who was making the music for dem. Paul likes Margaritaville. He likes when the volcano spews out the babe wit da silacon boobs, den dey put her in da blendah fo rendah da frozen concoction, etc. Some casino we went downtown Fremont St where was plenny Hawaiians, because I heard them using Hawaiin words and pidgin and also had Iz music playing on da Muzak. But I nomo remembah da name.
I tink Henerson, NV some Hawaiian restaurants and den. Prolly could find folks for kani ovah deah. I got one local nupepa from da Hawaiian community deah, gonna chrai fine em fo you.
What if Erwina have da keiki while you in Lost Wages????? But she will either have da keiki October 14 or November 13. Das da vibes I get.
Chrai look: http://www.alohavalley.com/
http://alohaworks.com/
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/18/2008 04:51:02 AM
Message:Eh Dukie - when you hele Las Vegas, can maybe look at da pawn shops chance fine a nice geetah foah not so many kala. Plenny pawn shops ovah deah. Not dat you don' get one swell geetah awreddy. You shuah do and you make it put out good music, too.
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 09/18/2008 08:59:40 AM
Message:http://50thstateradio.com/forums/
Try looking at the forums on 50th State Radio. This was a project late TP Ohana member Don Narup was involved with before his passing. What a good guy he was! There's a forum on Las Vegas Hawaiian stuff, as Don lived in Henderson, Nevada, just outside Las Vegas.Don woulda made one kani Ka Pila for you. I can't think of the whole name, but I believe Kimo, of The Aloha Friday song fame is a Vegas resident.I think he's part of the 50th State gang.
Paul
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 09/24/2008 9:22:40 PM
Message:Wassup braddah ed,eh wat,you stay postin den removin?Cause wen I check da latest post dat say's by guava sunrise,guess wat no moa nottin.Anyway spock you latah.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 09/24/2008 9:55:41 PM
Message:E we go try bust 1000.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/25/2008 12:28:11 AM
Message:I been wonderin. Does Hawai`i get one scary ting laidat Big Foot or Yeti or even like chupacabras in Puerto Rico or the Loch Ness mo`o guy? I tink I read in befo time b nabout big mo`o used to terrorize da peepos. I tink I even read dat Mokoli`i da part we can see is da back or tail of one giant mo`o get killed.
Also, too, since it getting soon Halloween time, anybodeh get obake stories? I read about a lady in white of Makapu`u, but she is not supposed to be Pele. I know someone who experienced the choking ghost. He said it felt like someone sitting on top his chest, very, very heavy, choking off his breath and it took all his strength to fling it off. Den next day his mother tol him no let da bed face da door. He moved his bed and nomo choking monster.
Down W. Va., get obake stories, too. We get one old, abandoned one room school house. Eretime someone drive by in da dahk, can see a light following you from one window to the next, to the next like he is following you. Car radio no work ovah deah, needah.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 09/25/2008 12:50:59 AM
Message:
quote:Eh ma,duke get da stories fo you,but gettin back to da two holes,why da buggah get big nostril's?cause get big fingah's.Wat duke das where brown bags to stardom wen originate from?He he he.Naddah ting dis thread no need worry why?Cause good fun!
Originally posted by wcerto
I been wonderin. Does Hawai`i get one scary ting laidat Big Foot or Yeti or even like chupacabras in Puerto Rico or the Loch Ness mo`o guy? I tink I read in befo time b nabout big mo`o used to terrorize da peepos. I tink I even read dat Mokoli`i da part we can see is da back or tail of one giant mo`o get killed.
Also, too, since it getting soon Halloween time, anybodeh get obake stories? I read about a lady in white of Makapu`u, but she is not supposed to be Pele. I know someone who experienced the choking ghost. He said it felt like someone sitting on top his chest, very, very heavy, choking off his breath and it took all his strength to fling it off. Den next day his mother tol him no let da bed face da door. He moved his bed and nomo choking monster.
Down W. Va., get obake stories, too. We get one old, abandoned one room school house. Eretime someone drive by in da dahk, can see a light following you from one window to the next, to the next like he is following you. Car radio no work ovah deah, needah.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 09/25/2008 08:32:24 AM
Message:Small kine obake story:
In my hale dat stay in Waipi'o, alldatime you goine heah somebodies stay walking aroun on da back lanai. Usually onli goine notice when everybody stay sitting together in da living room, and da dogs right in front. Den if we get one guest dey goine say "who dat in da back of da house?" We jus say "Oh, das jus da thumper. No worry; stay real frenly kine".
My keiki, all da life dey hear um, so no boddah- jus part of life as dey know it. Me, aftah twenty year I stay kinda used to it too. An da dogs no boddah- dey look an lissen but its jus part of da family- always been dere. But someone new comes by, kinda trip out- day time, night time, any kine time dey might hea it, an alldatime dey like go look see but we no boddah cause we know you no goine see nothing- it's just the thumper...
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/25/2008 3:20:31 PM
Message:Braddah Ed - you get one Menpachi wit da kakaroach. Or you go kakaroach da Menpachi?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/25/2008 7:34:13 PM
Message:Boys, boys, boys. Well, to tell you da troof, jello mo bettah den stringy billy goat, as far as kaukau goes, but I prefer a nice hot Italian sausage, myself.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/26/2008 05:06:33 AM
Message:Dukie - obviously you were not the only one who experienced the same thing. Obviously, others in your family knew about what would happen.
I understand plenty of spirits at Laupahoehoe because of the tsunami. I have read about all he many deaths that happened to school children and teachers because of the tsunami. Auwe.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 09/26/2008 09:30:23 AM
Message:What,no moa da one dat wen pull your hair through da wall? You know das long time ago,140 lbs handsome buggah,wit planny hair.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 09/26/2008 5:37:56 PM
Message:"back in the '30s or 40s there was a huge tsunami that claimed the lives of about 120 people including children who were at school."
The sad part of the story, which few remember, is that the school buildings were unharmed by the tsunami. When the ocean withdrew, the teachers led the children out onto the ocean floor to pick up fish and what not. Few survived when the ocean returned. If the children had remained in the classrooms they would have been fine.
To help erase the memories of the tragedy, the school buildings were moved to a lot on the Puna side of Hilo (Panaewa)on the side of the highway, where they remained for many many years. After 50 years or so they were bulldozed, and the site is now the Kulani Prison farm site.
When the tsunami hit Thailand recently, a Hawai'i resident saw history repeating itsself- people heading out onto the ocean floor to pick up fish. Being beter educated on the subject, the person yelled "tidal wave!" and then realizing most didn't speak English, "Tsunami!" A few lives were saved as a result, but most continued out onto the ocean floor. These stories are to emphasize the importance of a worldwide Tsunami awreness campaign- everyone should know, as we now do in Hawai'i, that when the ocean recedes you run for high ground.
By the way, Duke, so many inexplicable things have happened to me in my life that in spite of my materialistic scientific basic belief structure, I cannot discount experiences others relate as truth just because they are impossible to justify with our limited knowledge of how our universe works. I do have to wonder how your relatives know that the "spirit" you heard was trying to steal your soul, though. But I certainly beleive you heard, and were led by, something...
Chris
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 09/26/2008 5:45:01 PM
Message:I no mo obake tales, Duke, but tank you for tell dat won. My maddah and fadah had but so long time past. Me, I go all da kine spooky places in Ho'onaunau, Milolii, Pumaile Home, Kalapana, Humuula Ranch syd, Laupahoehoe..... Nothing, tho. Even here in Washington when I go walk feet on First Nations' lands, no mo nuthin. But, Bruddah Duke, I honored you share this one. Dis make me cognizant and respectful.
Herb
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 09/27/2008 03:02:23 AM
Message:Yeah I get one visitor,kolohe buggah.My boy's both seen em.Aleka said he saw da buggah chrow da fingah at em in da mirror,jj boy said he seen em in da hallway,me wen I had my cast on.He was standin there,only to poke his head out,wen I wen run fo look... nottin.Everybody was sleepin,so you know was sometin.Das it small and simple.Aloha braddah jay
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 09/27/2008 10:37:57 AM
Message:I still don't understand why the light comes on when I flip the switch; how can I claim somethimg I didn't see doesn't exist? I see the light every day. "There's more to think of than Y'alls thought of, ain't it?"
Paul
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/27/2008 2:16:10 PM
Message:There are places where the spirits are quite present, but not in a malevolent manner. Places where I have really felt presence of spirits: Gettysburg; Antietam; Ulupo Heiau; Halema`uma`u; The Great Serpent Mound; Haleakala; Laiea Point and a place that was my Pawpapw's land, where there are Native American petroglyphs carved into a rock and there is lots of petrified wood in the area. There are plenty of places where you can feel the strong mana if you just let yourself be quiet and let yourself feel what the land and the spirits are trying to tell you.
There are also places where I get the very bad vibes. Blennerhasset Island in the middle of the Ohio River, I feel something oppressive there; one certain place at Antietam; the St. Bartholomew plaza in front of the church in Santo Domingo. I don't know why (well, except for the place at Antietam -- you can still set the ruts in the road, in the middle of a pasture or a cornfield - lots of blood in the earth there).
Also by the kitchen at Monticello in Virginia.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 09/27/2008 2:39:59 PM
Message:One of my most chicken skin moments started in the most mundane way- I was at my parent's house and needed to take a dump. My parents live in lower Puna and so naturally don't have a flush toilet- the lua is about 100 feet behind the house. Possibly totally irrelevant is the fact that the original heiau that Pa'ao built when he arrived on the Islands- the site of the first human sacrifices in Hawai'i- is on their property, but that is the front yard...
Anyway, it was quite dark and overcast, but I see well in the dark and almost never use a flashlight. So I headed out to the lua, and there was the door in front of me- I reached out to open it when suddenly I realized it was glowing faintly, which is why I could see it so clearly; and then I realized that the door in front of me was not the door to my parent's lua- the lua was about twenty feet to the right...
Talk about chicken skin- I think every hair on my body was standing straight out. I kept my cool, went and used the real lua which I suddenly needed to use more than ever. Then went back into the house where my parents and a few other family members couldn't help but wonder what had happened to me. I told them about the door, and my mother thanked me for not letting my curiosity get the better of me and going to check out what was on the other side.
I have to admit it never crossed my mind to open it in the moment, but ever since I have always wondered what would have happened if I had walked through it...
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/27/2008 3:23:58 PM
Message:That is the door to the underworld. I've read plenty Hawaiian stories about going through the door. I'll see if I can find some of them to let you know what books they were in. I think if you would have gone there, you would have left this world. It was not time for you to do so, therefore, you noticed what was going on and corrected yourself. I think probably an aumakua caused you to notice before it ws too late.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 09/28/2008 8:44:50 PM
Message:Wassup,last night duke and I was playin music wen my friend wen walk right behind me,duke wen spock em.He wanted one bettah look,so he kept playin and try not to look to da left.Must have been junk da music cause our friend nevah did come back.Duke said it's been awhile since someting lidat wen happen,he kept playin cause he thought was one of my kids,den realized none of dem dat small.Das our #1 fan
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 09/29/2008 10:48:27 AM
Message:Braddah ed,I wish was bobby would be moa sweet da music.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/01/2008 2:09:09 PM
Message:The visitor was watchin Jay & Duke to make shua dey stay make moah videos so we can lissen. Eh wikiwiki. Ho`omakaukau.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/02/2008 09:26:48 AM
Message:Teacher: Eh, Kimo, can use da word "omelette" in one sentence?
Kimo: Eh, teecha, I go give you falss krax fo what you jus did, but omelette dis one slide.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/02/2008 10:23:45 AM
Message:Eh, Wanda! You wen' take yoa smaht pills!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/02/2008 12:48:42 PM
Message:Speakin of Zhustain, here he stay teach you how fo cook da pua`a when nomo imu.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEMpxyE8Nzk&feature=related
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 10/03/2008 03:04:28 AM
Message:Dey actshuly goine grine one small kine lidat? Das jus dog food wen I stay hunt...
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 10/06/2008 07:01:50 AM
Message:Kayden, get one moa for you buggahs-
Mebbe you no I wen stay pleeny yeah in Waimanu Valley. So one time we get plenny people stay in da valley, an I like make one imu. I no moa gun, so I wen borrow one from my fren- he get dis hunting pistol, 357 Magnum wid da 12 inch barrel, nice buggah dat!
So I wen back on da west side, came roun da cornah jus pass Waiilikahi- almos to what I like call da "lower slaughterhouse". Da rivah dere come right by da pali, mebbe 40-50 feet wide. Dere jus across da rivah stay one white boah- big buggah, mebbe 350 poun, fat. I wen take good aim, BAM! Da buggah jus wen look at me. I go again, BAM! Dat pua'a, he jus walk down da trail real slow kine. BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! Onli eight bullets I get. Dat pua'a, nevah wen look at me again oa noting, nevah wen run oa even speed up- jus walk slowly down da trail, wander off into da bushes.
I stay kinda piss off- I da big shot huntah, one shot kine- tinking da gun stay messed up, sights wrong, somming lidat. So I go cross da rivah fo see if get any blood- mebbe da buggah stay make jus roun da cornah oa somming. Real soft mud on da oddah side of da rivah- almos wen suck da tabi off da feet. No moa blood- but moa worse, no moa track at all! Now if you eveah wen go Waimanu, den you no stay hard foa fine one place wi' no moa pua'a track- get track everywhere! But obbah dere, no moa blood, no moa track, no moa nothing.
Das when I unnahstand I jus wen see da famous ghost pig of Waimanu...
An das one true story!
Chris
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 10/06/2008 08:55:19 AM
Message:Must be the famous eight shot six- shooter, too.
Paul
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/06/2008 10:58:27 AM
Message:Good thing he was a spirit kine so he don't get you with his tusks after you wen' make him irkatated from shooting at him so much. I have heard stories of ghost dogs, though, around the old Pali Road on O`ahu. Also, for a really good story, if you have not yet read it, Keola Beamer's book, "The Shimmering" has one really spectacular story about Kamapua`a. It is not really an obake story, but pretty chicken skin, anyway. It is the title story in the book (plenty other good stories, too, most of which are so funny, you buss up.)
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/06/2008 11:26:46 AM
Message:I am not a great fan of hillbilly jokes, mostly because I have been regaled with some very, very rude ones. But a friend sent me this picture and caption, and it made me laugh so hard.
A red-neck fire alarm.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 10/06/2008 11:31:46 AM
Message:"Must be the famous eight shot six- shooter, too."
I guess dey nevah yet get da pistol wi da clip in Ohio- oa mebbie Paul stay jus as ol fashion an outta date as da wife say...
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/06/2008 12:29:32 PM
Message:Yep, Paul is old fashioned. He still shoots da gun what gotta pour da powdah down deah, den put da ball and patch and shove em wit da stick thing, I foget what it is called, ramrod, I tink. Oni get one shot at a time. But 50 caliber ball, it makes a BIG hole in da critter. 50 caliber = 1/2 inch diameter. He has one rifle lidat and one pistol lidat, both which he builded himself. I tink pistol wit a clip is dislegal in Ohio. But Paul not eggzackly outta date. Just befo time, das all. Oni just old. Ha-ha. Elemakule make an old man.
But I love him garanz-ballbaranz.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 10/06/2008 1:04:52 PM
Message:Wanda, jes make sure he go swab um out wi one wet patch befoa he shoot um again- wen da buggah stay hot oa get one slow spark insai, sometimes da powdah like go when you ram um in- den dat ramrod goine go through anyting dat stey in front, like as not taking a chunk of da hand wit um...
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/07/2008 05:14:43 AM
Message:According to this book, no need to speak pidgin. Can use non-verbal gestures to get the point across. (no middle finger jokes),
No Language Communication
Okay, maybe Japanese is a bit hard to learn to speak and write. But there’s a lot you can say in Japanese using just your hands, nose, arms, and other forms of suggestive “body” language. This whimsical look at Japan’s "language of no language" introduces 70 gestures that will help you hurl insults, flirt, agree, excuse yourself, cross the street, and even make promises-—wordlessly!
Some are deadly, some practical, some wacky, but all are genuine and used today on the streets of Japan, at home, and in manga and anime. Finally, a way to tell someone at a loud party, "Hey! Your underwear is showing!" in four easy hand motions! 70 Japanese Gestures is an excellent instruction book for students of Japanese, language teachers, business negotiators, and cross-cultural observers. Fully indexed and illustrated.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/07/2008 10:31:56 AM
Message:Wanda, I bet Paul knows some Italian hand gestures, too! Us Scandihoovians didn't gesture much. Better to keep da hands in da pockets for warmth.
BTW you know where the term "hillbilly" came from?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/07/2008 12:56:55 PM
Message:Nope, I don't know where the term "hillbilly" came from. I think I learned it from my mother. But, do tell.....
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/07/2008 5:58:27 PM
Message:Back in the 1600s, the Dutch "William of Orange" became king of Great Britain. He was a Protestant and defeated a Catholic army at the Battle of the Boyne in Ireland, thus securing Britain's Protestant hegemony. In Scotland, Protestants became known as "Billies", Catholics as "Timmies".
When the American colonies were settled, a large contingent of Scots Highlanders settled in the Carolina back-country. Also about the same time, large numbers of Ulster Scots (Scotch-Irish)settled in southern Pennsylvania and filtered down into the Appalachians. Both groups were Protestant, thus "Billies". As they settled in the hills, they became "Hillbillies". Many of the dialect words of the Appalachian region can be traced back to Scots, such as "he learned me" instead of "he taught me", and "proven" instead of "proved". Broken English stay in moa dan one place!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/08/2008 12:24:27 AM
Message:Thank you, Kory for the history. Now you got me interested in digging a wee bit further. I'm going to start reading about my own heritage. I do know that when I was a kid, some of the old granny ladies spoke differently than the younger folks. They used words that my mother said were "old English". I recall in an earlier post, Basil helped track down the origin and meaning of a word "kyarn" which was frequently used to denote something very bitter and unpleasant.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 10/08/2008 07:19:08 AM
Message:
quote:Certain gestures in Japan don't mean the same thing as they do in the U.S. For example, enclosing the forefinger and thumb with other fingers spread out doesn't mean "okay," it means "money." Holding your thumb out with the rest of the fingers closed doesn't mean "it's all good," it means you're referring to a man.
Okay, maybe Japanese is a bit hard to learn to speak and write. But there’s a lot you can say in Japanese using just your hands, nose, arms, and other forms of suggestive “body” language.
Reply author: Admin
Replied on: 10/08/2008 09:23:31 AM
Message:
quote:One of my favorite shows (really high brow, NOT!) is Hole in the Wall. While there are often cultural differences, this seems to have universal appeal. From Japan to Europe to America and beyond...
Originally posted by Momi
Certain gestures in Japan don't mean the same thing as they do in the U.S.
Funny Japanese TV show Hole in the Wall 1
Human Tetris The Grand Master 4 (Japanese Show)
Hole in the Wall
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 10/08/2008 09:51:04 AM
Message:ypochris said: "I guess dey nevah yet get da pistol wi da clip in Ohio- oa mebbie Paul stay jus as ol fashion an outta date as da wife say...
Rendesvous 1840 is more than a signature, it's a philosophy. But there's folks that have them load from under the handle guns in Ohio. I never heard of one with that long of barrel, even among my modernistical friends. There are some serious hunting handguns made, but all are either single shot or revolvers. None are magazine-fed weapons. And two of the biggest only hold five shots, because of the large powerfull cartriges they use.
Here in Ohio, that would be an illegal handgun for hunting deer, only revolvers are allowed. Hawwaiian laws may differ. And .357 is the minimum caliber for deer,also. Imho, a large pig would require more stopping power than .357, except at very close ranges.
Paul
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/08/2008 2:59:00 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Admin
One of my favorite shows (really high brow, NOT!) is Hole in the Wall. While there are often cultural differences, this seems to have universal appeal. From Japan to Europe to America and beyond...
Andy - I have never heard of this show, but how I enjoyed watching the films! It is hilarious and a true game of feats of skill and dexterity. So funny!!! Thanks for making me aware of the show.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/08/2008 5:36:37 PM
Message:"Comedy happens to you, tragedy happens to me."
-Mel Brooks
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/08/2008 5:42:39 PM
Message:Eh, Wanda. You "mountaineers" are responsible for the hard "r" that most of us west of the Appalachians use. The closer to the Atlantic, the more folks swaller their "r"s. Thanks be to the Scot-Irish.
Out here in the upper left hand corner ( cue seagull, Retro ) we are rightly accused of swallowing some of our vowells (dawn and don sound the same).
Eh, Duke! You figgah errybody's English stay broke, or what?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/09/2008 03:26:00 AM
Message:I have a major peeve about service in a restaurant. I cannot abide poor service and I make sure the management of a restaurant knows if I am not pleased. (Yes, I do let them know when I am accorded exemplary service, as well).
This Japanese restaurant has a very unique way of providing good customer service.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeSQ5Rv7eH8&NR=1
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 10/09/2008 07:54:14 AM
Message:thumbstruck said: "Out here in the upper left hand corner ( cue seagull, Retro ) we are rightly accused of swallowing some of our vowells (dawn and don sound the same)."
I've never lived outside Cuyahoga County, Ohio, but I've eaten MY words plenty of times. 'Jus ask Auntie Wanda.
Paul
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 10/09/2008 1:41:21 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by rendesvous1840
thumbstruck said: "Out here in the upper left hand corner ( cue seagull, Retro ) we are rightly accused of swallowing some of our vowells (dawn and don sound the same)."
I've never lived outside Cuyahoga County, Ohio, but I've eaten MY words plenty of times. 'Jus ask Auntie Wanda.
Paul
As we say out here, "there is no R in Washington", although all my Illinois kin put one in there - "Who's gonna warsh the deeshes" as my uncle Wayne used to say.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 10/09/2008 2:44:29 PM
Message:
quote:
thumbstruck said: "Out here in the upper left hand corner ( cue seagull, Retro )quote:Man...two "POTLUCK" references in one thread. Then again, I must consider the sources.
Originally posted by slipry1
As we say out here, "there is no R in Washington"
As for the "no R in Washington" rule, we used to consider some of the variations; among the most popular:
Wrashington
Washingtorn
Washingtron
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/12/2008 02:09:58 AM
Message:Here is a lesson in pidgin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDrJ-ey7Dx8
One big question: how did "choke" get to mean a whole bunch of someting?
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 10/12/2008 04:35:46 AM
Message:Wanda,
Think "that stream is just choked with fish", "the road was choked with cars", or "that lake is choked with garbage".
It isn't far to "get choke fish in da stream".
Chris
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/12/2008 4:14:08 PM
Message:Paul, I ws told that the small kine Tabasco bottles were for occasions away from home, when seasoning one's words for ingestion would make them easier to swallow (swaller?).
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 10/14/2008 10:29:30 AM
Message:Tabasco- that's one of the food groups, ain't it? Beef, pork, seafood, game and chilli peppa water. But I'm nervous around that habanero stuff. Those buggas too much pilikia! I put a 1/2 teaspoon of Dave's Insanity Sauce on a sandwich at work one time, and could hardly eat it for hiccupping. It don't take much habanero to be too much. Ask Auntie Wanda about the hot sauce lady in Barbados.
Words not suposed to be a food group, but.
Paul
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/14/2008 11:12:19 AM
Message:Kory - swaller is definitely the correct word. It can be when you want your food to go from your mouth to your stomach or when you see one of those birds come back to Capistrano.
Same thing when a pig rolls in the mud -- he is waller-ing.
If you traipse down the road after someone, you are follering.
And where we live is up the holler.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/14/2008 5:34:53 PM
Message:Wanda, I've come across them pronounciations before. There are a lot of "old growth" and "2nd growth" Tarheels in the mountain loop beyond Arlington up to Darrington, around to the upper Skagit Valley and around towards Sedro Wooley. Lotsa good Bluegrass up there, too (even some moonshine, shh!).
Eh, Duke, you right, braddah. All da English stay broke, 'az why get gestures an' pointing li'dat. As long as erybody good natured, can laugh at erybody. At leas' we can agree on music, "G" stay "G" (unless you go jam wit' Mexicans, den "G" is la "Sol" etc.... still good fun!)
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/14/2008 5:39:26 PM
Message:Paul, chile is a food group. I like green with pork, maybe some squash blossoms too. After Oktoberfest, I'm going to break out da Dutch Oven an' make a batch. Tamales are dancin' in my brain, es por eso me dicen "El Huerro Tamalero". I get 3 packages of hojas jus' waiting. SLURP!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/14/2008 11:10:38 PM
Message:Paul made homemade, handmade tamales once. Just once. They taste real good but way labor intensive. I make some very good green chili/pork/toomatillo stew. Yum. I think I shall make some if can find decent tomatillos. Getting in the low 50's tomorrow for high temp, so time for chili and stews anbd soups.
I just read an article that says if you eat the spicy food, it is more calorie effective because you burn calories while you are burning from the spices.
Did anyone hear of "umame", the new taste that is in addition to sweel, salty, sour and bitter. It is the "savory" taste and is found in great abundance in soy, parmesan cheese and other savory kine stuff. It is a real thing, not just made up pretend stuff. Fo realz.
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 10/15/2008 06:39:44 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
Paul made homemade, handmade tamales once. Just once. They taste real good but way labor intensive. I make some very good green chili/pork/toomatillo stew. Yum. I think I shall make some if can find decent tomatillos. Getting in the low 50's tomorrow for high temp, so time for chili and stews anbd soups.
I just read an article that says if you eat the spicy food, it is more calorie effective because you burn calories while you are burning from the spices.
Did anyone hear of "umame", the new taste that is in addition to sweel, salty, sour and bitter. It is the "savory" taste and is found in great abundance in soy, parmesan cheese and other savory kine stuff. It is a real thing, not just made up pretend stuff. Fo realz.
In addition to green chili stew and chili, I make a mean posole - ah, New Mexico!!! Home of the sopapilla, too.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/15/2008 5:03:54 PM
Message:I can attest to Slipry1's posole! I make it too. Great for breakfas'! Menudo pa' la cura! Makes me hungry foa tripe stew!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/16/2008 01:57:02 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck
I can attest to Slipry1's posole! I make it too. Great for breakfas'!
Az y hillbillies eat grits for breakfast. Ground up hominy = grits. I made posole once. It was very good but sure took a long time to cook.
When you get those itty bitty corns in Chinese food sometimes, they are just that only itty bitty baby corns. Is that truly traditional Chinese to use corn or is it just made up for mainland tastes?
Tripe is something I never have eaten. Organ meats scare me. How can you eat a stomach? It just seems wierd to be able to digest a stomach, because the stomach should be immune to digestion, no?
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 10/16/2008 05:50:49 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcertoquote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck
I can attest to Slipry1's posole! I make it too. Great for breakfas'!
Az y hillbillies eat grits for breakfast. Ground up hominy = grits. I made posole once. It was very good but sure took a long time to cook.
Part of the joy of posole is its aroma while it cooks. One of my fondest memories is playing and listening to Norteno music on a rainy Berkeley afternoon and sipping on tequila while Sylvia Llano's dyanamite posole was stewing.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/16/2008 11:53:27 AM
Message:Posole! Menudo! Bot' wit' lime, shredded cabbage, cilantro, chopped green onions, warm corn tortillas, some red chili for added zing. Da me una pata! I've made menudo with beef and pigs feet, posole with pork hock and chicken. The feet make great stock.
Wanda, you can by-pass the long cooking time of the hominy by buying one beeg can in a tienda (Mexican grocery). I save da juice from da can, add a lillobit masa harina and add'em to the pot for thickening.
Half the joy of eating menudo, pigs feet etc is grossing out "normal" folks!
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/16/2008 11:56:55 AM
Message:Lupe Guzman told me he was going to take papers out on me for either Tejano or Mejicano citizenship because of my menudo. (You can see a picture of Lupe in Wikipedia in the "bajo sexto" article.)
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 10/16/2008 12:15:51 PM
Message:"Is that truly traditional Chinese to use corn or is it just made up for mainland tastes?"
"Corn" is a Native American food, first domesticated in Mexico. But what is truely "traditional"? Can you imagine Thai food without chili peppers? Or Italian food without tomatoes? (Other Native American foods).
I put "corn" in quotation marks because corn is another English word for grain. Thus wheat, barley, rye, etc. are also corn. The "proper" (or at least more specific) term would be maize.
But hey brah, dis da talk story tred wea anykine stay good, so fo why I like get on dis trip? I jus had fo add dis befoa some oddah buggah like say um...
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/16/2008 1:33:02 PM
Message:Ovah 950 riplaiz. Ovah 22 towzan times peepo stay read dis tread. Ui-ha. Can broke some kine record o wot? No let dis go make die dead.
Reply author: Julie H
Replied on: 10/16/2008 6:56:03 PM
Message:Youse guys!
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/17/2008 03:22:57 AM
Message:Humans are omnivores, anything on the planet is fair game. If we like it, we'll eat it. Same with music--if we like it, we'll play it.
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 10/17/2008 11:30:42 AM
Message:Tripe stew! Italian style, French style, Hawaiian style, Podagee style, Pake style, Filipino style.... All ono. Try sopopilla Italian style wit da honey miele mille fiore wen hana pau ke la mea pipi loko opu.
Herb
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/18/2008 02:11:00 AM
Message:What other kind of good stuff can I mkae with mochiko flour besides butter mochi?
Also, if anyone knows any other ono recipes for "ethnic" desserts. For instance, is there something that is typical Chinese dessert? (Bakery/pastry -wise). Or Portagee, Korean, Filipino, etc.? Seems like if I go to an "ethnic" restaurant, for dessert, they have sherbet or ice cream or canned lychee.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/18/2008 02:18:50 AM
Message:It is getting close to Halloween time. When we were kids in W. Va., would create michief, like overturning outhouses . In the city, kids would soap your windows or TP you front yard or throw eggs at the house, if you did not give good treats. One time in W. Va., we pushed the school teacher's VW bug over the bank into the creek. He was grumpy about that, but he was one of my cousins, so we had to do some mischief. Well, it wasn't my idea. I was a good girl. It was another cousin's idea. Yes, I was the good girl. Really. I WAS.
We used to go out for hours without a parent, come home with bags and bags of candy. I even remember used to get home-made popcorn balls or caramel apples or candy apples. By the time my kids were old enough to go trick-or-treatiing, I examined everything they got, practically needed to x-ray it because I was scared some maniac would sabotage their goodies. And then we doled out the candy a little at a time so it would last. But I remember when we were kids, eating candy until we got sick. And I do not even remember my ma kakaroaching any of my candy, but I sure kakaroached our girls' candies. We always had home-made costumes, but they were so creative. One time I was a princess with a hoop skirt. My mom inserted a hula hoop into the hem of the skirt to make it stand out, but In school, made it very hard to sit in the dumb little desks. I always wanted a store bought costume instead of home-made, but down I do not know why. The store bought onese are horrible.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 10/18/2008 05:23:52 AM
Message:"Also, if anyone knows any other ono recipes for "ethnic" desserts."
Wanda, you know how fo make kulolo? Das one Hawaiian dessert.
Hea, I goine give you two recipie- Hawaiian, and "coconut".
Old kine, the way we do it on Laupahoehoe Nui:
While waiting for low tide, gather firewood, porous rocks, ti leaf, green and ripe banana, sweet potato, yam, a pig- you know, all the stuff you need for an imu, as described in a prevous post. Or just get the pit ready and start heating the rocks to red hot, if all you want is a lot of Kulolo- but you will still need plenty ti leaf and some shredded banana trunk.
When low tide come, find some big ophi and scare them off rock with pupu snail, or use edge of thin rock to knock them off the rock. Scrape ophi out of shell using another opihi- eat opihi and clean and save shells.
Pull some taro- good starchy kind the best, but litle bit loli loli kine works too. Wash, and scrape off the skin with ophi shell, dig out any spots or rot.
Find good dried coconuts- shake and make sure get plenty water inside, cause need to be sweet kine. Use stake or smash with large rock to remove husk. Tap coconuts on tip of pointed rock around center to break into even halves. Scrape out meat with opihi shells into calabash, being careful not to scrape too deep on eye side of shell and open up one puka.
Get some awapuhi stems and whack them against a rock until fibers separate, then wring fiber to remove excess moisture. If wrong season for awapuhi, stip some hau bark and shred it, or if no moa hau, use the coconut husks- strip out fiber from the husk (but coconut husk is rough on your hands).
Spread fiber and gather shredded coconut into middle- wring out coconut cream, either into new calabash or back into unsqueezed shredded coconut. Discard squeezed coconut- it should just be tasteless fiber if you have squeezed it properly. Continue until all coconut cream has been extracted- a little grated coconut left in the cream is good, though.
Break some ripe (soft, Hawaiian variety, not tough cane company kine) sugarcane into manageable lengths. Whack cane against rock to split skin, then wring juice into coconut cream.
Grate the taro with the ophi shell. Best to do this into another calabash, as you can then use the coconut cream mixture to bathe your hands and ease the itch. Or if the itch no boddah, den jus grate um into da sweetened cream. Quantities are variable, but it is something like half taro, a quarter coconut cream, and a quarter cane juice- vary to taste.
Scoop mixture into half coconut shells, place in imu on top of shredded bananatrunk and ti leaf, carefully cover each shell with a ti leaf, cover entire emu with plenty ti leaf, and bury with about four inches of moist dirt, sealing any spots that leak stem- again, see previous post on how to do an emu.
After at least six hours, but the longer the better (overnight generally if only get kulolo, but no like overcook the other stuff if get full emu) dig it up and enjoy!
Tip: If only doing kulolo and cooking overnight, throw in some young (four inch diameter) ti roots and enjoy another Hawaiian dessert- tastes like molasses candy!
O.K., now "coconut" (brown on the outside but white inside) method:
Go to supermarket and buy taro, coconut cream (ideally frozen rather than canned), raw sugar, honey, and aluminum one pound loaf pans with covers.
Peel and grate or grind taro, add coconut cream, sugar, and honey- amount varies to taste but about 2/3 grated taro to 1/3 cream, then raw sugar and honey about half and half to taste (but don't taste it raw!).
Spoon mixture into loaf pans, cover, and stack loosly in large steamer. Steam for about six hours. Let cool and enjoy!
(Not nearly as good as the other kind, although the honey adds a different, enjoyable flavor to replace the smokey ti leaf emu traditional flavor.)
Mebbe bymby wen get time I teach you fo make Haupia, Hawaiian and "coconut" style...
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/18/2008 07:36:45 AM
Message:Eh, Chris. I can make haupia "coconut" style. Easy as can be with canned coconut milk and cornstarch. Boy, labor intensive for making kulolo. I'm definitely too lazy to make the old way. Plus nomo imu in Cleveland, fiyamenz no like you have imu in da city.
Isn't there some kind of sweet potato pudding sort of thing, also?
But Chris - really, truly, thank you so very much for teaching us the old way. You should write a book.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 10/18/2008 10:09:01 AM
Message:"Boy, labor intensive for making kulolo."
Some call it labor intensive; those who actually do it for the first time call it one of the best days in their life.
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/21/2008 12:17:01 PM
Message:Do apples grow in Hawai`i? I do not mean "mountain apples", but like MacIntosh, etc., kind that Johnny Appleseed wen plant befo time. Is Hawai`i too tropical for certain fruits and veggies to grow? Like cabbage is a cold weather veg, or onions can bolt if they get too hot, or radishes get all woody and pithy if it is warm weather?
Also, anyone know much about growing orchids? Why can't I get my orchids to bloom again? I get plenty leaves, new air roots, but nomo flowers.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/21/2008 5:24:57 PM
Message:Eh, Wanda. Can compensate for tropical climes by elevation--going higher up da mountain is like increasing latitude. Cabbage jus' needs to find a happy elevation to ensure kalua pork an' cabbage!
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 10/22/2008 12:48:58 PM
Message:On the Big Island there is an apple orchard up at Keanakolu on Mana road- I'm guessing about 7000 feet? We used to go up there just before Thanksgiving, since they are not the best for eating but make great pies. There is a single Korean pear tree up there that makes a ton or two of fruit every year, though, and those are choice! And the plums in the summer. Plus the only decent peach I ever ate in Hawai'i was from there.
My friend has an apple tree in Haina- she planted it years ago from a catalog, doesn't know what variety but it wasn't something special for the tropics- Haina is about 500 foot elevation, below Honokaa. That tree bears beautiful, delicious red apples every year. And some folk get two pear tree in Kukuihaele, just above Waipi'o at about 900 foot- so many times I was tempted to rip a few pear, but nevah did. Looks like Bartlet and Anjou, but who knows?
Cabbage, broccoli lidat dey grow choke Waimea, roun 4000 foot- mos of dat kine go Oahu. Maui onions stay world famous, supah sweet kine. An I grow plenny radish in Waipi'o- regular kine an daikon too. Daikon get so big- what you goine do wid all dat radish?
Some orchids respond to daylight hours, but most to wet/dry season. Mebbe you watah too much. But "dry" season has to be the right time of year- when were they blooming when you bought them? My mother get plenny orchids bloom on her birthday- cause fo so many years I give her one orchid. I think mebbe three-four months befoa, she no moa watah- let da buggahs shrivel a bit. Den wen da "rain" start again, dey break out new leaves and flowers. But really, no ask me- I can grow any kine ting cept orchids.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/26/2008 12:11:28 AM
Message:Get wintah in Hawai`i or always nice? Moah rain in wintah? Different plants grow in wintah? Trees stop making leaves?
I cannot remembah if was Ulupalakua or Parker Ranch, was one pine tree, the biggest around tree trunk I nevah saw in my life! Had to be 10 feet around or more. And the needles on this pine, it was a giant! And the pine cones! Ho, brah, could give falsecracks if you not lookin out.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/26/2008 4:14:15 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
E we go try bust 1000.
Well??? Whachu guyz waitin foah? Yallz is fallin down on da job. I geettin taiyahd chrai fo hol'em up by myself.
Post to mebbe snow heah in Cleveland witin necks few dayz. Freezin for da trick o treetin'.
Any kine pidgin Christmas carols? Pretty soon Mele Kalikimaka -- time fo go shoppin! Now mo bettah I retaiyahd can take time Christmas shopping, no worriz or hurriz.
Dukie what dem mo`opuna want for makana? Jay what dem keiki want fo makana?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/26/2008 4:18:35 PM
Message:And fo you guyz what cannot figgah how fo make da reply wit kwote, click da ting look like one page note lettah wit red arrow while you noho in da post dat you wish fo kwote. Den it make one kwote in da ting fo you to typed dat whachu want fo say.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 11/03/2008 9:55:42 PM
Message:Me I not pau,dis thread wen open up doors.People came out fo talk story,and others wen try,but most of all we had fun.Try look back,too good dis buggah.By da way what songs you guy's like learn?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/04/2008 02:39:07 AM
Message:Well, at least I ain't as momona as I used to be.
I ain't ready for it to be ovah until 1000 jes becawz.
Jay is wort' fitty dollah anytime.
Now I have something to admit. I need help. Lots of help. I have been making my Christmas cards. My goal this year is to have no two exactly alike. Well, I hate to say, but, well, umm, well, I guess I have maybe gone overboard. I have made WAY too many cards. I have fewer addresses to send them to than I have cards available to send.
So plese help me out with ideas. And alos, for our TP `ohana, if you would like me to send you one card and get on the list for my various other card making forays, please send me a private e-mail with your snail address and I will send you a card.
Does that sound pitiful me asking for friends to send cards to? No. So far I have made about 80 cards and ending up buying more stuff to make more cards yesterday at Michael's, because I saw some more stuff that I thought would have cute ideas.
The cards and scrapbooking have providied lots of entertainment for me and `Oni`Oni. She likes to snitch my stickers and run away with them. Or ribbon and bows, she loves that. And glue. I think she is a sniffer.
So please help me out. `Alika and Alana, please send me your addresses.
And the rest of you guys, OK, lets keep this going until 1000.
Rah-rah, rah.
Rah-rah-ree - hit 'em in da knee
Rah-rah-rass, hit 'em in da .......oddah knee!
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 11/04/2008 05:25:59 AM
Message:Dis t'read no stay make. If you eat one meal, you not pau, you jus' waiting foa da nex' one. Same.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/05/2008 03:05:15 AM
Message:Remembah wen I acks bout lychee how fo grow da see or even if can.
Well guess what! Can! I get one lychee growin in da pot wit my bromeliads. I jus wen stick da seed in da pot and jus keep give da waddah like I owayz do. She goes.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/05/2008 4:23:33 PM
Message:No tripe for me. I just watched "Dirty Jobs" TV show where he was at a place called BARF, which was Bay Area something or other about making raw unprocessed dog food out of "green" tripe - never cooked or cleaned or anything lie that. Even the dirty job guy was grossed out.
And then Iron Chef had the Halloween show of "offal". Those guys cooked some of the grossest stuff and then the judges wen eat it. Icky.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 11/05/2008 4:32:45 PM
Message:eh wot? u akchoolee citee gurl o wot? U ste bulaia us eh? Countree gurls, dey useta eat tripe, eat oddah kine stuff too but no can pos dat stuff.
Hoh but yea, da green stuff, some hauna, no good. Gotta hemo da green an black stuff. I use ta take em down da ocean fo scrape em off. Wea I no speeya feesh kine place, oddawize da shahk come aroun. Den gotta treet em wid lime or bakin soda. I use ta peek em up up from slaudah houss. Wen I cook da fresh tripe teen ajah time. My granma keek me out of da house. Eh but now get commercial kine, no mo dat much smell. Get plenneh collagen so da buggah keep you young.
U no eat tripe az y u come ole fut! Az my fountain of yute.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/05/2008 6:03:54 PM
Message:Me -- I am too much citee girl now. Az why I work hahd all dem yeahs so I no have to eat na`au. I can afford to buy some shicken or poke shops. Sometime shrimps and fish and even lobstah at Christmas time.
But seriously, you do bring up a good point about the collagen. Plenty peepo take collagen supplements, shark cartilage, all dakine.
And the guy on dirty jobs show wen eat LEACHES!!!!! Must be like Minnesota kine opihi.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/06/2008 03:01:15 AM
Message:Dukie, you bulaia. You nevah chahge us wen you teach Paul kiho`alu. Y you goin chahge Glenn? Hahd fo him get you dakine while in stay Iowa. When he go home, den gotta send dakine from Big Island to O`ahu, use air plane since nomo ferry ovah deah. Dat make price go way high. You need give moah den one song tree cods.
Or else Glenn can take fish to Laupahoehoe to Tata.
I nevah see hinalea. I oni no da Iz song about please touch my hinalea. Not a song fo da Abrigo keiki to sing.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 11/06/2008 1:53:14 PM
Message:Get tree cods lidat. Get C cod, F cod anden get G7. Anymo and you gotta pay extra. Change key anden you gotta pay evenmo. Mobetta go play ipu no mo cods.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/06/2008 2:38:51 PM
Message:I oni say cods cuz Dukie say cods. I figgah he know mobettah how fo spell since he way good at dem cods/koahdz/chords. I tawt was koahdz, akshually. Petah, I get C and F. Soon I get G7 an den.
I tot cods was wot Dukie pau money in Las Vegas. Pai Gow kine.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/06/2008 2:47:02 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Bingo. I wen hit da muddah load. Try look. Eh Momi, no look. No say I nevah warn you.
Dis remind me when my maddah cook all dakine na1au, livah, gizzards, brains, heat, etc. She would make us stay at the dinner table until we finished our portions. I would sit there all night until time for hiamoe. No mattah me. Ainokea. Will not eat dat nasty stuff, and no tripe Glenn.
She would always say "think about the starving kids in China". Then finally aftah I wen grad high skoo and get one job in da summah befo college staht, I finally go to one Chinese restaurant for lunch. I nevah ate Chinese food befoah. Oh, was so ono, chop suey; chow mein, peppah steak; wonton soup; charsiu; I was tinkin' I gotta eat livah and dall da nasty kine and tink about starving kids in China. My ma might be bulaia. Chinese kaukau mobettah den livah. Way mo bettah. Do dey mama tell about da stavin' kids in W. Va.?
And now I like get dim sum.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 11/06/2008 3:22:36 PM
Message:Cod's ok. Halibut and mahi-mahi and salmon better.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:21:10 PM
Message:Cod makes the baccala. It is coming Christmas time, almost time for baccala.
Now on to buttahfish. Is it a species of fish or a preparation method?
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:32:28 PM
Message:E wa dat baccala is that something like the cod fish dis made by Portuguese? oh this is 990 I think.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:33:53 PM
Message:Ten mo fo go He 'umi wale no i koe. alaila hookahi kaukani ka helu.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:35:46 PM
Message:Nah, baccala is like wen you still flying da kite anden wen da string stay broke stay bukaloose.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:38:02 PM
Message:E if I stay da won fo make 1000 get prize oa wot?
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:39:53 PM
Message:Oh das wen get mo den one kite buckaloose at da same time? Is that feminine gender ablative case third person or wat?
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:41:30 PM
Message:Mebbe. like ten poun baccala fo you unda da xmas tree.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:41:30 PM
Message:I don no, wot numba we stay?
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:42:35 PM
Message:go back to da talk story page an spok da numbah of replies.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:43:50 PM
Message:So if we bust won tousand iz dat won tousand oa won tousand one?
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:45:18 PM
Message:I do no! Stay like da millenium question which is when da new century staht li'dat. Maybe gotta acks Wanda or Sir dukeness.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:45:34 PM
Message:I won!!!!
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:46:57 PM
Message:aahh! brah yu cheet.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:48:46 PM
Message:Al, sharp yeah how I wen set you upwid won question. I wen Kam schoool you no.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:54:46 PM
Message:How come you not one fireman or cop den?
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:56:19 PM
Message:Baccala = dried cod (torsk in Norsk). In the 1300s folks in northern Europe figgered out how to sun dry cod. It can last up to 13 years, only add water and, presto! Christmas dinner! Add lye to the water, then wash the lye out over a week + of days and you get Lutefisk (lut-Swedish,lute-Norwegian). Centuries of privation and poverty have created interesting menu items for humanity.
As far as tripe goes, "Menudo pa' la cura."("Menudo-tripe, hominy, red chili and spices-for the cure") The battlecry while having your menudo dished up is, "Da me una pata." ("Give me a foot.") BTW, Lutefisk ain't bad, once you get past the smell, it slides down well with plenty of butter, boiled spuds and lefse. Over near where Noeau and Baritone live, they have the International Lutefisk Eating Contest every year in Pouslbo, WA.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 11/06/2008 4:57:02 PM
Message:Coz a Kehau dem.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 11/06/2008 5:01:47 PM
Message:Kden my work hea is pau, gotta go pick up my honey an go home. Laters
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 11/06/2008 5:04:39 PM
Message:Ohh. Thats a blast from the past, Kehau dem, I remember days when we were younger. E check out Thumbs definition. Wow thas like palu or sumting.
See in Hawai'i the Portugese made one dish an I tink was spelled li dis. bacaliau pronounced bakalau. Ithoght it might be similar. But noke not even.
E Peter I like your new CD it cool man where you went lurn accordian?
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 11/06/2008 8:28:03 PM
Message:Eh, Duke! Shoot foa 2, den 3.
Noeau--Da Potagees, da Spanish, da Italians, da Croatians, alla dem guys eat bacalau. Each language get different spelling. To support da fishing industry in northern Europe in da Middle Ages, da Church wen' declare fish on Friday. Da declaration was not universal over Europe, so 'azz why not all Catholics in Europe ate fish on Friday, jus' da western an' northern parts.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 11/06/2008 8:31:41 PM
Message:Eh, Duke! No fo'get, Obama wen' Punahou.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/07/2008 02:39:01 AM
Message:Congratulations, my friends! Except Petah and Al wen have all da fun while I stay get my beauty sleep.
I dunnao if Duke had any idea da impack dis tread. Earth-changing, my friend. Make the wirl mo bettah.
Petah - fo you prize get my undying admiration. Eh - no can beat dat!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/07/2008 05:47:01 AM
Message:I think Pordagee gets baccalao or sometin lidat. I know Puerto Ricans get baccalao. Same ting as baccala Dried, salted codfish. When time to use it, you gotta soak it for to get da salt out of it and to reconstitute the fish. Soak for 5 days in the fridge, changing water couple times a day to get the salt out of it.
Then in Paul's family tradition, for Christmas Eve, since a no eat meat day, we make a very plain tomato sauce, sinply onions, garlic, olive oil, parsley and canned tomatoes. Quick sauce. Only cook about 1/2 hour to 45 minutes. The fish, flour, parsley, sweet paprika. Fry fish. Oh, also, fry some onions along with fish for give flavor. Put some fish into the sauce, breaking it up. Some fish, keep just fried fish, and have on plate with the pasta & sauce. Traditionally, use a long, rippled pasta called mafalda, which looks like about 1" wide lasagne noodles. No cheese on the pasta. Never cheese and fish together. So we take bread crumbs and parsley and paprika and saute the bread crumbs in olive oil until they are nicely toasted. We sprinkle that on the pasta & fish sauce instead of parmesan or romano. My girls nevah like baccala. I am not keen on true baccala myself because of the odor. So I use fresh cod fish instead of dried. Paul's ma always used dried. Now his sister has taken on the family tradition of using dried. I still make mine with fresh. Also get shrimps or lobstah for daughter who will no eat fish. The other daughter only eats pasta and plain sauce before fish is added, so I have to customize for all the particular tastes. I started out not being fond of baccala, but now it would not be Christmas without it.
I think because one year I was pregnant at Christmas time and did not know it yet, and was throwing up from the smell of the fish. Oooh, did it make me queasy. But I thought I musta had the flu. Instead, I had a baby!
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 11/07/2008 07:55:45 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
I think Pordagee gets baccalao or sometin lidat. I know Puerto Ricans get baccalao. Same ting as baccala Dried, salted codfish. When time to use it, you gotta soak it for to get da salt out of it and to reconstitute the fish. Soak for 5 days in the fridge, changing water couple times a day to get the salt out of it.
Then in Paul's family tradition, for Christmas Eve, since a no eat meat day, we make a very plain tomato sauce, sinply onions, garlic, olive oil, parsley and canned tomatoes. Quick sauce. Only cook about 1/2 hour to 45 minutes. The fish, flour, parsley, sweet paprika. Fry fish. Oh, also, fry some onions along with fish for give flavor. Put some fish into the sauce, breaking it up. Some fish, keep just fried fish, and have on plate with the pasta & sauce. Traditionally, use a long, rippled pasta called mafalda, which looks like about 1" wide lasagne noodles. No cheese on the pasta. Never cheese and fish together. So we take bread crumbs and parsley and paprika and saute the bread crumbs in olive oil until they are nicely toasted. We sprinkle that on the pasta & fish sauce instead of parmesan or romano. My girls nevah like baccala. I am not keen on true baccala myself because of the odor. So I use fresh cod fish instead of dried. Paul's ma always used dried. Now his sister has taken on the family tradition of using dried. I still make mine with fresh. Also get shrimps or lobstah for daughter who will no eat fish. The other daughter only eats pasta and plain sauce before fish is added, so I have to customize for all the particular tastes. I started out not being fond of baccala, but now it would not be Christmas without it.
I think because one year I was pregnant at Christmas time and did not know it yet, and was throwing up from the smell of the fish. Oooh, did it make me queasy. But I thought I musta had the flu. Instead, I had a baby!
Pasta sounds good! Via the Mexicans on my in-law side, we have tamales for Xmas. Two parties - one fo make em, two fo eat em. Onolicious! Bod veggy, meat, & sweet (cinnamon, sugar inside) each wid olive in middle - raisins in da sweet uns.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 11/07/2008 09:04:03 AM
Message:E right on. Now we getting down. The topic foa da nex tousan is "favorite recipes" Now we can get all ethnic li'dat. One of my favorites is kalua venison. My good fren Nelson Wai'alae wen make dat one insai da imu at waiahole vally one yea.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 11/07/2008 09:12:46 AM
Message:A friend's daughter wen' get married and da food was 1 kalua pig, one venison roast and 2 turkeys, all insai da imu.
Good t'ing lunch soon.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 11/07/2008 09:15:07 AM
Message:I going call Baritone and go grind dim sum in China Town. See ya latas.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/07/2008 09:27:45 AM
Message:My favorite hillbily grinz is pinto beans and ham hocks. Least aways now adays it is my favorite. When we were kids, I was sick of beans. Every day beans. Every day! That must be how Glenn's land of the futs and the futless developed. West Virginia musta been futland back then. Not that I was part of the methane problem, not me, oh no. Right Paul? Not me. But now we oni make beans a few times each year. I nevah like 'splode. Since I would nevah be one person for make hauna.
Another that was my favorite in my younger days was fried apple pies. Oh da ono. I do not even know how to make them. My mother made them out of applesauce, not sliced apples. I think she put some flour in the applesauce for make it thicken up and then put cinnamon and nutmeg, brown sugar. When she cut the dought in circles by tracing a saucer. She put the filling, then fold over to make half circle. Seal 'em up with fork mashing on the edges and fry in da iron skillet wit lard.
That's another thing. Cannot get good iron skillet nowadays. No mattah, cannot get 'em seasoned good enough.
My grandma used to make vinegar pie. Sounds icky but was ono. Like lemon merengue pie, oni, she put whipped cream on top since we had cows and plenty cream.
For breakfast, fried apples and biscuits. The apple trees had apples that always stayed green. These were the best for frying. When young, they were very, very hard and green. When they got ripe, they turned paler green, almost yellow. Very tart, and oh so good to fry and have with nice buttery biscuits. My dad's mother made the best biscuits in the world, baking them in a wood burning iron stove. No thermostat. No timer. Fluffy and tender and oh so good. And for water at their house, no pump. Oni well outside, had to go put da bucket down the well with a rope and haul em up. The water was so cold, it would give you brain freeze. Ahdunno how it could be so cold always even in hot summer. Then we had to heat water on the stove to wash dishes. She usually kept a big pot of water warming on the back of the stove. Their fireplace was the only way to keep the place warm. It was a HUGE fireplace. I remember, two or three of us kids could stand up straight and tall inside the fireplace. They did not burn wood. They burned coal, since down there coal was laying all over the ground, just only needed to pick it up. No need coal mines over there. It was everywhere. That is a fragrance I shall never forget. The smell of coal burning will always remind me of Pawpaw and Mawmaw's house.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 11/07/2008 10:44:07 AM
Message:Das kool man. Errybody get good kine stories all we gotta do is listen when they are told. Me when I was akid I nevah could imagine fireplaces and snow. But waves and crabs on the walls in the stream by a'ala pahk and mullet in the watah and stuff li'dat. I remembah rainy season which is not the same today. Would rain foa days and we would just play outside cause the weather was never freezing. Den wen you go isnai mom would trow you in the hot shower hu ka feel good that. We had mango season and we would all have our favorite source of mango seed or pickled mango. Today you gotta buy most of that in the store and it aint so good as befoa. Today though sometimes get sumboddy on the sai a da road selling that stuff in recycled kim chee bottles. What I miss is the real kine Hawaiian food. No moa good kine up hea available in the restaurants. Plate lunch, the heart stopping kind is what is mostly available and then the peepos up hea tink wow das Hawaiian food? Kinda junk yeah? Das not to say that local food Hawai'i style cannot be great it is just that most peepo open up one restaurant and they not very good cooks. And local kind ingredients are not available andthe water is different. Even Asian vegetables up here taste different. When stuff is grown in volcanic red soil the flavor is there. Up here Asian veggies no mo tda taste I used too. But as dyy say when in Rome. Yu know wot I mean? I miss pipikaula and soupy chicken longrice and pipi ku thickened with limu and poi. Pulehu short ribs and cooked in the ground pua'a kalua. I like see lu'au he'e and salt and onions and strawberry soda. Hua kai and fresh raw fish and fried akule don't forget lomi 'oio and salted salmon i thelomi kamano instead of fresh salmon. It is not the same when the salmon is fresh.
Anyway every body get one story so come on guys and gals staht trowin um out dere. I like read about stuff i don know about.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/07/2008 5:50:26 PM
Message:Nodda ting dey get in W. Va. Black walnut trees. We would make fudge candy with black walnuts. It was very hard to crack the walnuts. But even worse, is first getting the outer shells off. You would have to let them dry for a while and then some people would lay them out on the ground on burlap feed sack, then on top put another feed sack and run over them with the car to remove the outer tough skin. Then you would have to pull it away with your hands and everyone knew you had walnuts because your hands would be so brown and no could wash it off. Eventually it would wear off and you ma would make you do dishes telling you it would help get rid of the brown on your hands. But the fudge was so ono, butter, cream and sugar. Cook to soft ball stage, then take off heat and beat, beat, beat to incorporate some air. Then when it starts to lose the shiny, then add nuts. Pour it in a pan and let cool. Mmm, just da ting fo a diabetic. No wonder all my relatives and me get diabetes. And black walnut cake. Mmmmm, good dat.
Black Walnut Cake
3 c. sifted cake flour
3 tsp. baking powder
1/2 c. butter
1 1/2 c. sugar
3 eggs
1/2 tsp. salt
1 c. milk
3/4 tsp. vanilla
1 c. black walnuts
1 tsp. black walnut extract
Cream butter until soft. Add sugar gradually and continue to cream until fluffy. Add eggs and black walnuts, vanilla and black walnut extract. Beat thoroughly.
Sift flour, baking powder and salt together. Alternately add in thirds, flour mixture, milk. Beat well after each addition. Bake 25 to 35 minutes. Sprinkle top of cake with chopped walnuts.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/07/2008 5:55:54 PM
Message:Plus not too many trees left down there. Too valuable for selling for timber. The taller and straighter the tree, the more money, especially if branches do not start until tree is very, very tall. They are not huge diameter, they get tall and grow pretty straight. Nothing can live underneath the trees, no grass or other plants because soil is way too acid for anything to grow. Da troof. Fo shua.
Did you know that timber is how the Cartright `ohana of Bonanza fame were supposed to have made their fortune. We went one time to Virginia City.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 11/07/2008 6:02:23 PM
Message:Afta my Mom passed, my bro, my cousin an' me made "palt", potatoe dumplings. We went all out. We went thru 40 lbs of spuds, 7 lbs of salt pork and worked all aftanoon. Take one meatgrinder (kjotkvarna)an' grind da spuds. Add salt and flour to make a dough. Make a patty, put in chopped salt pork and roll into a ball. Boil for about 45min - 1 hour in salted water. Serve with lots of butter. My cousin puts jam on'em (his dad was a city boy back in Sweden, my mom's folks were "hillbillies" by my grandma's admition). The REAL reason you make palt is to fry the next day. Slice the palt, fry in butter and add a little milk.
Ho! Da ono!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/07/2008 6:05:11 PM
Message:Here is a top notch fudge recipe -- way more modern that what we used to use, but way mobettah, and pretty much fool-proof. If you make sure to boil for at least 5 mins (but not too much longer), then it will come the right texture. Do NOT make it on a humid day. It won't set up right. The longer you boil the stuff, the harder the fudge will set up. The perfect texture is important, you don't want it sticky, but then again, you don't want it hard and grainy. That's why 5 minutes is the perfect timing.
MARSHMALLOW CREME FUDGE
One 11 oz.bag milk chocolate chips
One cup semi-sweet chocolate chips
2 cups granulated sugar
1 jar marshmallow creme
1 can (5oz.) evaporated milk
one stick butter
2 tbs. corn syrup (can leave out, it just helps with texture)
1 tsp. vanilla extract -- the best is Watkiins Double Strength Pure Vanilla
1 cup chopped walnuts or pecans
Line 9 inch square pan with foil. Butter foil and put aside.
Combine sugar, syrup, milk, butter and put in a heavy saucepan, which has been buttered all the way to the top. Can butter pan with part of the stick of butter with which you are cooking the fudge.
Cook over medium heat, stirring constantly, until it reaches a full hard boil boil. Boil, stirring constantly, for 5 minutes. Remove from heat; add chocolate chips, vanilla and marsmalllow creme until blended. Pour into prepared pan, and cool for several hours. Cut into squares.
Hint: Heat the unopened jar of marshmallow in a hot bowl of water to help get it out of the jar.
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 11/07/2008 6:25:10 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by noeau
I going call Baritone and go grind dim sum in China Town. See ya latas.
Dim sum OK, but I lyk da maoli kaukua: raw oio; raw opae wit chili pepa and red bell pepa; raw wana; raw crab; raw ake; raw round and green oin'un; raw limu kohu and da kine green, spongy limu from Kapoho; raw opihi; raw he'e; pa'akai; sour poi; fresh raw watercress; den chew black Hawaiian sugar cane.
My meat I ly'k palehu on top da lava rock. Palehu da pipi shot rib wit manini or kala on da side. All on top da lava rock. Go burn guave sticks and da hala root (dry kine) on top da lava rock. Ono kine flay'va from da hala! no need rice. Whack em, Kealoha!
Herb
Reply author: cmdrpiffle
Replied on: 11/07/2008 9:34:19 PM
Message:You all crack me up! I've nothing to add to this thread xcept to to announce that I've now been on the longest thread in TaroPatch history...
Cheers,
Mike
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/08/2008 01:37:23 AM
Message:We went out to dinnah last night to The Apple Farm Restaurant for wild game night. Ha-ha, da country girl wen have chicken breast stuff wit apple-pecan stuffing with apple cream sauce. Paul and da macho men have game. Paul & buddy Rick (oh, he could tell more stories den Jay and maybe even more den Ed) had da "platter", have wild boar cacciatore style; elk chop; venison in some kine sauce and quail stuffed maybe wit same kine stuffin I had wit chicken. Cutest little drumsticks you nevah see. Noddah frien, Dan, have buffalo steak. Rick had frog legs, but ws disappoint dey no taste like chicken. He said dey tste fishy. I tole him wot you tink da frog eat? Same ting fish eat. Even eat fish babies, too. Was some scrawny frog, though, they gave him several pair of legs. Joe Tex wen make a song about dat skinny legs an all.
I cannot eat da cute critters nomoah. Could when I was keed. I guess was hungry. But now, I raddah not. Da elk - he cute. Da quail, they so cute, da babies following dey mama saying bob white allatime. All dose schmuffy baby deers with da polka dots ontop. Well, OK, da boar not so cute, but.
I can tell you guys miss home so much. Know how? Cause you talk about da kaukau almost like speaking of a beautiful woman's charms and attributes. Ed spoke of his foods so lovingly. Wow, if he talk about food lidat, imagine how he talk to Mrs. Guava. Herb, too.
But Ed, dat wotchu say, it is so poetic, could write a song lidat.So long ago it seems it was a dream since you get dakine kaukau. Change is a bummah ting, it cannot be denied. But at lest can share a brand new song, yeah?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/08/2008 01:43:08 AM
Message:Braddah Kory: Ah, dat Scandinavian kine stuff, kinda heavy on day carbs, yeah?
Why dey soak da lutefisk in lye? Sodium hydroxide, go it get sodium, but can get plain salt, no poinson kine stuff. I mean, you take paint off stuff wit lye or clean da clogged drain pipes lidat. I mean, when you buy da lye it get dat skull and crossbone stay ontop da can for warning.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 11/08/2008 1:12:49 PM
Message:Eh, Wanda. Da carbs are for cold climate. Da butter makes it slide down easy. Lye for lutefisk is a way of curing the fish. The fish is actually changed to a more translucent form. Gotta be careful so you no ovahcook'em, oddawise get "fish-Jello". I've assisted Norwegian customers with changing the water to leach the lye out of the fish. Change the water 2x a day for over a week. Every culture has "I dare you" foods.
Minnesota joke (back me up Jack):
A farmer complains to his neighbor, "I can't get the raccoons out of my crawlspace, what do I do?"
Neighbor: "Get some lutefisk and throw it in the crawl, that'll fix the varmints."
A week later, the farmer says, "The lutefisk got rid of the raccoons, but what do I do to get rid of the Norwegians?" (rimshot)
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 11/08/2008 2:01:48 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck
Eh, Wanda. Da carbs are for cold climate. Da butter makes it slide down easy. Lye for lutefisk is a way of curing the fish. The fish is actually changed to a more translucent form. Gotta be careful so you no ovahcook'em, oddawise get "fish-Jello". I've assisted Norwegian customers with changing the water to leach the lye out of the fish. Change the water 2x a day for over a week. Every culture has "I dare you" foods.
Minnesota joke (back me up Jack):
A farmer complains to his neighbor, "I can't get the raccoons out of my crawlspace, what do I do?"
Neighbor: "Get some lutefisk and throw it in the crawl, that'll fix the varmints."
A week later, the farmer says, "The lutefisk got rid of the raccoons, but what do I do to get rid of the Norwegians?" (rimshot)
Curing lutefisk is in there with Kimchee for rankness, and, when you're done, you might as well eat library paste! Minnesota joke: You can tell when spring comes to Minnesota because you can hear the birds coughing in the trees! Seattle is like Minnesota without the cold in winter nad the bugs in summer. Of course, they both have a lot of Lutherans.....
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 11/08/2008 2:47:26 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck
Over near where Noeau and Baritone live, they have the International Lutefisk Eating Contest every year in Pouslbo, WA.
Retro and I visited Poulsbo a couple of years ago with my parents during the Lutefisk Festival weekend. One very friendly (or very clueless) lady in one of the gift shops there asked if we were in town for the Festival. Given that we were three Japanese people and one non-Scandinavian-looking guy, we all thought that was hysterical. I consider myself to be an adventurous eater, but I have no desire to eat lutefisk. I would like to try haggis.
Someone else asked me for the Pumpkin Crunch recipe (that was mentioned in the Seattle area experiment thread), so I thought I'd post it ('k, Norm, I'm off da hook, right?) Warning - it's easy to make, tasty, and pretty bad for you.
29 oz can of pureed pumpkin (either just pumpkin or pumpkin pie mix - the latter has more sugar and fat)
1 c. sugar
1 c. chopped walnuts
1/4 teaspoon cinnamon
1/4 teaspoon vanilla extract (optional)
1/8 teaspoon nutmeg (optional)
1/8 teaspoon allspice (optional)
2 blocks butter or margarine, melted
12 oz. can of evaporated milk
1 box yellow cake mix
3 eggs.
Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Line a 9x13 pan with wax paper or parchment. Mix pumpkin, evaporated milk, sugar, cinnamon (nutmeg and allspice and extract, if you want) and eggs. Pour into the lined 9x13 pan. Spread the dry cake mix evenly over the top. Sprinkle chopped walnuts evenly over the top. Spoon melted butter evenly over the top of cake mix and nuts. Bake for 50-60 minutes. Cool, then refrigerate.
I've found it's best to invert the entire pan onto something big (a cutting board, in my case) and cut the pieces before transferring it into a serving dish. Can serve with Cool Whip.
Most folks on the Mainland (at least in my office) had ever heard of this dish, but it's pretty common in Hawai`i. It's my mom's recipe, back from the 60's - you can tell from the use of all the convenience items.
Cmdr. Pif - welcome back! Where you been, man?
Peter - you da man! Shoot for 2000!
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 11/08/2008 3:04:10 PM
Message:GS, I could do without the lup chong (I never developed a taste for it) but da pipipi - yum. My dad has a special spot to get pipipi, but I don't think he's done it 30 years.
And Keaka, I've never developed a taste for kimchi either. For one thing, I can't handle spicy (and we never had chili pepah watah in the house when I was growing up), and for another thing, I'm not crazy about cabbage. Tsukemono, dat's another story.
My mom makes the most onolicious steamed mullet recipe. And fried papio. And kombu maki. She makes kau yuk for my dad's birthday ever year. When I lived with them, the smell of that cooking would drive me out of the house.
One day when she was feeling creative, mom stir fried kabocha (Japanese pumpkin), dried shrimp, oyster sauce, and onions. Wow, just thinking about it is making me hungry.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/08/2008 3:24:57 PM
Message:One Japanese chemist discovered the fifth taste on our tastebuds -- umami, to go along with sweet, sour, salt and bitter. Umami is the savory, ono taste. It has been scientifically proven that our tongue has receptors for glutamates which are the primary compounds that are responsible for the umami flaor. It is highly present in soy products, cured cheeses, especially parmesan; in mushrooms, way more in dried mushrooms, they say. Perhaps that is why people have been adding MSG to food for long time -- makes more flavorful, indeed, according to studies.
This is not pretend. It is really true. They've even been talking about it on the food channel.
Momi - what is kau yuk? Anything else in kombu maki besides kombu and rice? I had some dried kombu which put in some udon soup I made with miso and I can remember what else. Was ono, too.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 11/08/2008 3:47:53 PM
Message:GS can explain kau yuk better than I can, since the smell always puts me off and I don't think I've ever eaten it (imagine look of shock and horror on GS's face). As far as I remember, it's steamed, fried fatty pork belly. There's something more to it, but I can't remember.
Kombu maki ("wrapped kelp") can be made vegetarian fashion without anything wrapped inside the kombu, but Mom puts a little bit of pork inside a piece of pre-soaked kombu, wraps the little parcel up with a piece of kampyo (edible gourd) and cooks the little wraps in a shoyu/sugar/something else sauce. I always ask her to make it when I go home.
Incidentally, kombu is one of those Japanese foods that sounds like another felicitous word (it sounds like "yorokobu," or "to celebrate or be happy") so it's always used during New Year's feasts. "Kazu no ko," or fish roe, sounds like number of children. "Mochi," the glutinous rice cakes, sound like the word "to have or possess." "Daidai," the little citrus fruits that look like tangerines, sound like "generation after generation." "Tai," or sea bream (a fish) is part of "medetai" or auspicious. And on and on and on. That concludes our cultural lesson for today.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 11/09/2008 09:36:59 AM
Message:E momi what smell would that be? Kau yuk is like twice cooked and the anise is kinda nice. Did your mom steam it? The good restaurants don't use red coloring too by the way. Wanda some restaurants list it as pot roast pork. There was a restaurant on maunakea St. caled Tai Sam Yuen that had had a belly pork steamed with hahm ha. whoo talk about broke mout. This one took no prisoners. And up the street was cafe Dalisay they made the bestest sarisari and dinadaraan. Put that on the rice ..ohh so nice.
I thought I would mention that I lived on Mauanakea St. as a kid. So all these restaurants were in walking distance. The list included Tin Tin, Red Seat Cafe, Smith Street Sai Min and Columbia Inn when it was at the top of Tin Can Alley. One nuddah good Filipino place was Three Sisters Cafe. None of these places exist anymore. Oh yeah I gotta mention Eddies Fountain I used to get ham and rice for 35 cents. Two scoops withthree slices fried on the grill.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 11/09/2008 10:07:12 AM
Message:I can't remember what about the smell of the kau yuk I didn't like, but I don't like black licorice, so it may have been the anise-like smell.
I do know it takes a long time for Mom to make kau yuk, and I'm pretty sure she steams it first. Mom's traveling right now, so I can't call and ask her.
When we used to go get pipipis, we would also get kupe`es, the bigger shelled sea snails. They always creeped Mom out, so she didn't eat 'em, but Dad and I did.
What is sarisari and dinadaraan?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/09/2008 1:40:27 PM
Message:I have made red cooked pork and also pork with star anise. I think maybe sometimes it is called twice cooked pork? Perhaps that is the licorice fragrance you remember. I am not keen on licorice, either. Long ago, I used to have to take paregoric for stomach cramps when I was pregnant in 1976. Paregoric tastes like black licorice, and even just the odor will make me gag. Bust fennel (finnochio or finnuch, as Paul's family says) is not as bad. It is what gives the trademark taste to Italian sausage. When I cannot use Italian sausage in my pasta sauce, I simply add some fennel seeds to the pot to give it the hint of the flavor of sausage and then use the super duper lean ground beef for meat sauce. Makes more ono.
The star anise makes the red pork taste plenty ono. I even one time made some kind of tea eggs, where I boiled eggs, then cracked the shells but left them on the eggs, then cooked them again in a pot with tea, shoyu and star anise. Makes ono appetizers, and very attractive. The eggs turn color where the shell was cracked. Looks almost like marbled, but tastes way better than plain boiled eggs.
Anyone with Japanese background who knows why ships/boats have the word "Maru" in their names? We see them at the Cleveland docks and they all have "Maru" in the name.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 11/09/2008 2:03:04 PM
Message:Momi: Heeya is da pilipin food dikshunary:
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/May/10/il/FP605100313.html
An wot kine werd is "felicitous"? Wah, teenk u smaht? Tahk ten dollah werds dat I no can undastan?
I heard dinadaran, diningdaran, dinuguan, anikine. Dey no ste liss bindongo doe. Long time ago, we useta buy da whole pipi. Shoot em, skin em, gut em, cut em into butcha shop kine cuts. Sell da bindongo pilipine camp fo 5 bucks, until my ole man frien sho me how fo clean and eadum. Den pau, I keep da bindongo. My frien 95 now.
Da dry abalone, dey useta sell em on da same rack as da crack seed. Now gotta be millioaire fo buy da stuff. Jalike plenneh oddah stuff no?
Yea, jalike plenneh fish too, but neya mine. Plenneh guys still no like humuhumu eleele, kupipi, an nenue coz da buggahs steenk, pualu, an beeg green hinaleas coz too slimy,. I ged da secret fo make em good. So no maddah wot, I going ged feesh fo eat. Bud even doe I shayah da secret peepo no going eadum. Coz wen dey clean em, garrans plenneh no like eat em coz of da smell. I make sashimi from da humus, an po'ke wid nenue an pualu. Certain place get plenneh taape now. Some peepo like, some no like. But since I da menpachiman, I alwayz no how fo ged menpachi an aholehole.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 11/09/2008 2:19:38 PM
Message:Eh, any you guys pickle fish? You know, like pickled herring or salmon? Great on hardtack or crackers or rye bread. I get cuzzins stay comin' ovah nex' weekend an' I get one jar pickled herring dat I'm going to add a bit of sugar to foa good taste. Main course--sauerkraut soup (wash da kraut 3 times, cook wit' onions, garlic,a couple t'ree spuds, carrot, celery, brats, a couple country ribs, an' kielbasa, all in chicken broth. Garnish wit' sour cream).
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 11/09/2008 3:18:52 PM
Message:
quote:Best I can figgah is that it means "the ship named..." Momi can't come up with one beddah ansah.
Originally posted by wcerto
Anyone with Japanese background who knows why ships/boats have the word "Maru" in their names? We see them at the Cleveland docks and they all have "Maru" in the name.
The Wikipedia folks say ---
The word maru (丸, meaning "circle") is often attached to Japanese ship names. There are several theories associated with this practice.
* (The most common): That ships were thought of as floating castles, and the word referred to the defensive "circles" or maru that protected the castle.
* That the suffix -maru is often applied to words representing something that is beloved, and sailors applied this suffix to their ships.
* That the term maru is used in divination and represents perfection or completeness, or the ship as a small world of its own.
* A legend of Hakudo Maru, a celestial being that came to earth and taught humans how to build ships. It is said that the name maru is attached to a ship to secure celestial protection for it as it travels.
* For the past few centuries, only non-warships bore the maru ending. It was intended to be used as a good hope naming convention that would allow the ship to leave port, travel the world, and return safely to home port--hence the complete circle arriving back to its origin unhurt.
Today commercial and private ships are still named with this convention.
The first ship known to follow this convention was the Nippon Maru, flagship of daimyo Toyotomi Hideyoshi's 16th century fleet.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 11/09/2008 4:48:48 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Menpachi Man
An wot kine werd is "felicitous"? Wah, teenk u smaht? Tahk ten dollah werds dat I no can undastan?
Eh, brah, no mek li'dat! Be glad I nevah use da word "homophonous" - I couldn't figgah out how fo' spell 'em.
Mahalo fo' da link to da Advertizah.
As foah da nenue, etc:
"Aloha ka manini me ka pôpolo
He i`a noho ia i ka laupapa
(Hail to the manini and pôpolo
Fish that live in the reef)
Kala ka nenue `o ka nahawele
Moani ke `alake honi aku
(Kala and nenue mixed with nahawale seaweed
The scent is inviting)
Âhole ia`a piko lihliha
Poi `uala kâohi pu`u
(The belly of the ahole fish is rich and fat
With sweet potato poi it slides down the throat)
Ha`ina `ia mai ana ka puana
Aloha ka manini me ka pôpolo
(Tell the refrain
Hail to the manini and pôpolo)"
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 11/09/2008 7:50:15 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Nobody get recipe fo mongoose?
Retro sez fo' tell yu on'y peeps in da Boonies eat dat kine.quote:
Originally posted by Glennpachi
Oni 25 dollah seence u neva pos' da cohds?
F F7 Bb Bbm F D7 G7 C7 F [vamp], but not necessarily in dat order.
So, brah, you goin' bring back opihi fo me o wat? Oh wait, wat da payment fo' Kepanee? Beah and poke? (No gimme camera supply an electronic equipment, k. Remembah, I not Mistah Kazu Tanaka.)
I wen learn dat song from Uncle Danny. I herd da Iz version of dat song ("Aloha Ka Manini") wuz in dat movie "Forgetting Sarah Marshall." Da melody real simpo. Cohds mo hahd dan da melody.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/09/2008 10:25:08 PM
Message:Probably could use ground hog recipes for mongoose. If you were really, really, really hungry.
Trailer Park Groundhog
Take gun (.22 cal is good). Load with bullets and accurately fire at head [Ed. Note: We're assuming the groundhog's head, not your own].
Skin groundhog and gut him. Clean out carcass with waterhose.
Cut critter into quarters.
Make up a big batch of your favorite marinade (make sure it has oil and vinegar to help tenderize the groundhog).
Throw marinade and critter pieces into plastic trash bag and marinade around 2 to 3 days in the refrigerator.
Take out marinated critter pieces and throw on the grill on low heat. Cook until rare to medium rare. Do not overcook, critter will dry out.
And no one likes their critter dry.
Country-Style Groundhog
1 groundhog
1/2 c. flour
1/4 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. pepper
1/4 c. cooking oil
1/2 tsp. sugar
Clean and skin as soon as possible. Remove all sent glands. Cut off head, feet and tail. Cure in cool place by suspending from hook approximately 4 days.
When ready to cook, lard according to recipe.
Dress groundhog as you would a rabbit, removing the small sacs in the back and under the forearm. Soak groundhog overnight in salted water to remove wild flavor.
Combine flour, salt and pepper; rub into groundhog pieces. Brown grounhog in hot oil in skillet; sprinkle with sugar. Reduce heat and add 1/2 cup water. Cover and simmer for about 30 minutes or until tender. Remove cover and cook for 10 minutes longer.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/10/2008 04:35:09 AM
Message:You guys want to learn kahiko skills from olden days, check out this web site: http://www.primitiveways.com
It can teach how to build and imu; what to substitute when nomo access to Hawaiian stuff; how to make fish nets; how to make ti leaf cape; how to make cordage and what plants to use; how to catch fish using fish toxins that temporarily make fish float to top of water so you can just pick em up; how to tan shark skin. Just all kind of stuff. And if you live in the area in Kaleponi, get plenty classes can go to on site and various parks.
Eh, Chris. You probably know this stuff already. Does what they say ring true?
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 11/10/2008 07:34:32 AM
Message:
quote:Cannot spell 'em - but know planny words dat SOUND like 'em. (Grammar geek joke.)
Originally posted by Momi
Be glad I nevah use da word "homophonous" - I couldn't figgah out how fo' spell 'em.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 11/10/2008 09:00:45 AM
Message:Eh, brah, dis one fambly website - keep it clean.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 11/10/2008 10:24:42 AM
Message:I thought we were talking about grammar - broken and non? Someone in Daboonies must have s*x on his mind. Probably been on the computer too much.
BUT...on that topic, thanks to Momi for sharing a great quote with me recently, though I forget the original source:
"It isn't that my mind is in the gutter --- it's that the gutter is in my mind."
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/10/2008 11:02:40 AM
Message:Eh Gregg - tanks e fo da lesson on "Maru". Makes sense to me now. Kind of a neat tradition.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 11/10/2008 1:13:12 PM
Message:
quote:Anything they want, brah - anything they want!
Originally posted by guavasunrise
I wondah wat dem rural Alaskan Samoans grine fo Tanksgiving...
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/10/2008 1:49:07 PM
Message:Was one Samoan `ohana on HGTV today getting one yard makeover and also exterior of their Kaleponi hale. One big family, lots of keiki. And when all the yard makeover was pau, they christened the deck with a lu`au. The papa was playing `ukulele while the keikimahine danced to "Ka Uluwehi o ke Kai". Was good.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 11/10/2008 3:42:13 PM
Message:What about da 11th one hiding underneath da table? Hawaiians wit da slight advantage? Hehe
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 11/10/2008 7:29:42 PM
Message:
quote:O, my goodnes, my goodness, my goodness...Bradduh Sunrisng-in-my-maka-by-the-guavatree-on-da-Aina-ova-Haina! I wen climb dat cliff-face fo spaak da wahines. And, try poke (try, anyway) fish dat syd but all us guys could get wuz he'e and namako (nevah know how fo feex em, tho). BUT! On dat hill, you get the small guava! So....no madd'a wat da kine 'natural' and 'organic' kaukau you hana fo meaai, da abalone iz da winnah!
Originally posted by guavasunrise
I remember days when we were younger, trying fo catch o'opu and wi in da mountain stream.....kiawe charcoal fiyah next to da pa'akai-flavored pulehu meat wit its juices dripping into da glowing embers below while chewing on dried aku, tako, and pocket knife-shaved slivers of real, genuine, dried abalone.
Also, Brah, memba had can pink-salmon with Maui onion, vinegar and sugar!?! And, da kine, foods da GI's wen introduce: can corned beef, can cracka, can spam, da sardines, ly-dat fo 'emergency beach kaukau'?
An den, fo throw e'rytng 'organic' off kil'tah, top off with Kool Ade or Malolo punch or 'Greeeen River' soda.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh, we had good fun. And.... da poke wai! Memba? Da kine koppe in da bowl with saloon pilot kracka, budda, sugar, and Carnation cream? Or, jus wada, krakka, and sugar. WE WEN LEEVE, GARAN BALL BARAN!
Herb
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 11/10/2008 8:03:05 PM
Message:Dees one good won wit kau yuke.....or plain. Get cucumba, skin em, half-em, and hemo da seeds. Tch'o em in the cast-iron, hot-oil, frying pan. Tch'o in sugar, kiko-shoyu...or go strait fo da 'pre-made' teruyaki shoyu. Eat em ly dat. Or...substitute cumba fo da taro wen you hana-steam Kau Yuke. Or...Tch'o in da small-kine dry shrimp.
Wen I learn fo kalua puaa, we hemo the puaa toenails. How? Poke one long-enough-so-you-no-get-burn concrete reinforcing-rod into da imu. Wen the rod stay redhot, place the red-end tween the toes and pry the toenails. Not easy because no mo leverage. Eventually, the toenails hemo. Make shuwa the rod stay redhot. When hana-pau da toenail-removal, den burn off the fuzz by 'scratchin' the hooves wit da redhot iron. Tie up da puaa da usual way with the feets up. When pau kalua, da 'jello' from the feets and da meat real ono from dea all da way up the ahu. Also, wen cleaning da puaa make suwa you bust-up da teeth and clean da jaw-bone wea da teeth stay wuz. Da first time yu do dees (hemo da teeth), you goin KNOW why you godah do dees EV'RY TIME.
Da kine feesh you stay talk bout, Menpachi, dat get cingua... Dasz da kine I poke in Kapoho, cept the Hinalea because too small. Minahs da cingua, I believe, coz I goin eat-til-I-ma'ke!!! BUT, no fei'ea I talk ly dat coz I not in Hawaii but hea wea no get feesh...cept Salmon! Get Lutefisk but stupid eat dat wen can eat Salmon????
I learn fo clean the naau with lime-leaves. Yup! Poke da guava/bamboo steek tru da loko for make-em inside-out. Den, rub the buggah with the lime-leaves (for the lime-oil 'detergent') and rock salt (for the scrubbing 'steel-wool'). Then cook em da way you like em. Me? I like em with the blood...specially pilipino style.
Bout time, we talkin natural foods. Ha! Ha!
Herb
Herb
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/11/2008 03:14:26 AM
Message:Eh, Herb - small kid time in W. Va., we used to almost have what you had with da kope & pilot crackers. We would have instead biscuits, nice and fluffy. Broke da mout fo breakfass. Break da buggah in half and butter wit nice fresh butter made in a churn (hahd work, get tyahd da arm). Put shuggah on top, den pour da kope, den put da cream from ontop da milk after you milk da cow and let da milk stand in fridge overnight. It raise to da top and is oh so good. Must be all dat buttah an cream why I get da heart trouble blocked up veins. Eh, nomo can eat dat. Why:
Fat in da biscuits; too many sodium in da biscuits (salt and baking powdah); too many carbs in da flowah; too many carbs in da shuggah; too many fat in da buttah; too many fat in da cream; too many lactose in da cream.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 11/11/2008 05:11:37 AM
Message:It's hard to have 20/20 tastebuds.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/11/2008 2:12:23 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck
It's hard to have 20/20 tastebuds.
Well, I was really short-sighted today. I was very, very bad. I made two pies: one coconut cream, one banana cream pie. From scratch (well except for all-ready pie crust in a box) --- custard from scratch complete with whole milk and 3 eggs each. Then I made genuine real whipped cream to put on top.
And then I made for dinner linguine and shrimp with lemon, parsley and gaahlick.
Ono. I know I am going to pay, but sometimes ya just gotta buckaloose.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 11/11/2008 2:53:34 PM
Message:Eh Unko Herb. Ahdonno ... cigua ... azz mean stuff, dat. Da way dey ste tahk, jalike flu, and da itch, ste unda da skin kine, and da hot/cold ste reverse. I had da itch unda da skin kine befoe ... eh ... no can scrach. Gotta poun em o slap em hahd. Ahdonno eef woz cigua o not but no woz good. Da hinalea I ste tahk about is da beeg green kine o da beeg gray one. Puna sai still arigh. Az da plenneh touriss kine place, get moa cigua.
Eh Guava-man ... pooka pantez??? I ged some storez ... but neya mine coz Momi going slap mah hed anden bumby Admin going ban me an say 'see da pattern'.
Wanda, moa beddah u eat my cheeken feet soup. Betta fo da joints. Excep goddah spit out plenneh bone, moah wors den watamelon seeds. Nex time I go jus make soup and use turkey drum steek so dat not so hahd werk speet out all da small bone.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/11/2008 4:08:28 PM
Message:My bebe dawdah in Seattle today through Sunday with High School Musical on Ice. She called home waxing poetic about Seattle. She really liked it. She went to some market she said ws humongous, I cannot remember the name (Pike's Peek or something lidat???) She said the town gave her good vibes unlike many other cities she has visited. I told her go find Momi & Retro; Thumbstruck, Slpry1, Neej, No`eau, Rich, etc., etc., etc. but she is too bashful. So far three cities she really liked: Nashville, San Antonio and Seattle. I told her to find da desert boonies ovah da mountains and she said too far away. So Braddah Ed, I guess she cannot hunt you down in the witless protection program. When she was in the Army, she was psychological operations, but I think they are the "spooks", so I think she could hunt you down....bwah-ha-ha. Nah, nah, nah. She'd rather go shopping in Seattle. Oh, I think she liked Portland, too.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/11/2008 4:11:13 PM
Message:Glenn - of course it is mo bettah I eat your soup, but pie, I mean, come ON, braddah.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 11/11/2008 4:48:15 PM
Message:Wanda, I ged mento condishun ... I see pie, doe-nut, cake, ice-cream, an odda kine dessert as poison. I no eat shugah an oil on purpose. I also remembah da pain from gedding lilo too beeg.
Braddah Ed. If she no like da meat, juss boil em down, and make regulah soup. Take out da meat stuff and den afta put in ice-box, hemo da fat. Anden u can eat da peeg feet an stuff lidat, she can jess dreenk soup. But eef steel no can hando den jess put knox geletin in wotevah "regulah" kine soup u ste mek.
Mek shua dat u take MSM and glucosamine chondroitin. I use aspirin fo da inflamation too. Wen I ste below 15% body fat, no ack up as much too. I ged joint problem but not dat serious. Mostly from doin stoopid kine stuff young time. Ahdonno, mah routine hahd koa so not too many peepo can follow. Wintah time doe, I smoke pipe and dreenk beeya but not as much beeya as summah time.
Bin Laden related to Bin Dongo o wot? Eef so, I foun da braddahn in Pilipine camp.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 11/11/2008 6:29:55 PM
Message:No worreh Wanda, I not gedding on yo case ... all a mattah of how u look at it no? Wot eef I ma'ke peekeen opihi widout smoking my lass cigah. Wot eef u ma'ke in traffic not eatin yo lass pie? Plenneh way fo ma'ke an regret neva enjoying wot u like ... if u like look at it dat way.
No ged me wrong, I no keep fit an watch da diet fo live long o not ged sick. I keep fit so dat I can go feeshing weah I useta go. I oni ged mebbe 20-25 yeeahs mo eef I luckeh. But erreh yeeya, I beef up so mebbe I can haul up my lass ulua, my lass batch of menpachi, dreenk my lass beeya, smoke my lass ten dollah cigah wile in Hawaii. Oni once a yeeya, anden I neva no wen goin be my lass yeeya. Azz y!
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 11/11/2008 7:38:12 PM
Message:Braddah Ed, u rite brah, RA is differen storeh:
Heeya is won good site:
http://www.medicinenet.com/rheumatoid_arthritis/article.htm
<<<Eat dat sinful piece of pie and shmoke dat ceegah and drink dat beeyah and pick dat opihi while you still can, because life is too shawt.>>>
Hehe, yea no can tell wot goin happen no? Azz y wen my 401K turn into 101K, I no worreh ... I still dreenk beeya, smoke pipe, an work out 5 dayz a week. oh ... anden I oni workout coz oddawize da beeya no tasse good. Anden peepo teenk I won healt nut ... no way. I ste skinneh an build musso an condishun oni fo dreenk beeya an go fisheeng.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 11/11/2008 8:09:12 PM
Message:Was up wid dis? I tink da tred stay make- plenny time I like try an nomoa noting- den I wen get busy liddle bit, nevah get time fo da lo'i; anden lilbit latah I like come back check um out a coupla minutes before hia moe an get like couple hunred moa post! Plenny I like reply to, but wen take so long foa read now it stay quatah pas one in da morning an I work tomorrow...
Latahs! I goine be back!
Chris
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 11/11/2008 8:58:17 PM
Message:Azwhyhard.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 11/11/2008 8:58:47 PM
Message:
quote:All she would have had to do is go see Led Kaapana & Mike Kaawa at The Triple Door tonight; every person you mentioned above, save Rich, was there. And then some.
Originally posted by wcerto
I told her go find Momi & Retro; Thumbstruck, Slpry1, Neej, No`eau, Rich...
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/11/2008 11:40:51 PM
Message:I get both kine Arthur Aitiss. Dey not very good frienz. Paul takes glucosamine & chondroitin. I no can - diabetes peepo posed to stay away from glucosamine. I take one baby aspirin erreh day fo my pu`uwai. It must be too liddo dose for help get rid of Arthur. For rheumatoid kine, oni ting help some really bad prescription meds. But dat what give me some eye problems I had some yeahz back. Iritis which eye doc said more prevalaent in peepo wit rheumatoid kine. I tink ebenshually we all goin get osteo kine. Jus da physical wearing out of dese iwi.
Glenn gets da right idea. If stay fit, mo bettah. Less weight for carry aroun on da bones. Strengthen da mussos for help da bones & joints mo suppoht. Hahd to stay fit. Way hahd. Espeshuali when eat pie.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/12/2008 04:28:53 AM
Message:Here is a nice quote from a book called Buckaloose: Kaimuki School Days with Israel Kamakawiwo`ole by Sam Kong.
"I guess that's just the way of the local boy, communicating without words. Heck, that's why we got pidgin. The least amount of words, the better. And Israel was a Master. He'd say one or two words, and you'd have to fill in the rest. See, pidgin makes you listen with your heart, not your ears. Otherwise you'd miss the message."
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 11/12/2008 2:59:08 PM
Message:E Sistah Wahndah! Minahs. Minahs. Minahs. (Hawaiian oli style: you goddah say em tree times) You da wannah-winnah. Banana, custard, coconut. Mangi. Mangi. Tuto Mangiare. E!?! Dees is survival food. J'ei like wen I live in Bayou, coo-ass L'siana. Plenty carbs and fat fo survive da pirou boat fo catch catfish, ly-dat.
Herb
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 11/12/2008 3:10:09 PM
Message:
quote:Try Thai chicken feet salad. Not only ono but nutric'sion'nus (I no can spell em, pidgin or uddawise). Drop da chicken feet in hot, hot water for clean em off, toenails, ly-dat. Den redip em fo hemo the gelatinous skin off the bone. Thro way da bones. Put em on top any kine salad vegie, like long-rice wit juliene strip green beans, and chili pepa, etc, etc, etc (strait from the King of Siam)...but da Thai ingredients and spices make this one ono, ono, ono. Whack em; but lay off the purple "thousand year egg"!
Originally posted by Menpachi Man
....moa beddah u eat my cheeken feet soup.
Not dinah time, yet, but memories of all dis udda-country kine kaukau, so energizing!
Herb
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 11/12/2008 3:24:56 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
My bebe dawdah in Seattle today through Sunday
No worry, Sista Wandah, tell dawdah go Seattle library fo one good hookup. Joke, Joke, Joke (Rememba: 3 X). Tell her check out the April 2008 "seattle" magazine. Get fee'cha: "BEST RESTAURANTS".
Too bad she goin miss-out the Hawaii exhibit in Wing Luke Asian Museum, start 21 Nov. BUT, BUT, BUT! Us udda Seattle-syd guyz can stay-go. Goin be good because some of us pre-poi communique can go patch into dees scene and spaak us guyz'es artifacts on loan to dem fo show.
Herb
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 11/12/2008 3:40:07 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
Paul takes glucosamine & chondroitin.
Tell you wat: wen I stay 64, like last year, I eat all kine seafood....plenty wit chondoitin, like lobsta, crab, he'e, shrimp... Dat time, like now, too, My knees wen hurt. So dees Pake wahine wen geev me "glucosamine", 64 yr time. I wen get Menpachi-kine cigua, alergy attack!!!! First time, you guyz, happen to me. Doctor shoot me up with steroid. And, gee'me steroid-pills, ly-dat. Best'ess relief wuz jump in the tub of cold wadda (like, 55 faren) fo numb da unda-da-skin itch TREE CLOCK IN DA MORNIN, Guyz! Doctor was worried my throat-muscle would strangle-out my windpipe. Doctor said I shoulda, almost wen ma'ke-die-dead.
Main ting: I work out liddle bit (nuff fo paddle my kayak tree hours at 3 knots per hour) so recovery wuz mo easy'a den hahd. Oh! Dass "kayak" not "KaiAct".
Herb
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 11/12/2008 3:43:49 PM
Message:K'den! I hungry...my neck sowa, too. I goin eat, auau, den moemoe.
Aloha, Y'all, till bum-bye come.
Herb
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/12/2008 4:10:02 PM
Message:Eh Herb - you was tryin fo get da leben hunnert? Missed it by that much --> - <--.
Trouble, trouble, trouble (tree times rule) with steroids, make you hungry, hungry, hungry. Maybe grow breastulars, too.
Sandy Alomar what usta be Cleveland Indians star katcha had da very bad knees. He used shark cartilage.
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 11/13/2008 12:37:54 PM
Message:I suspect this recipe would work with mongoose.
http://www.iath.virginia.edu/utc/songs/datpossumf.html
Possum-It's what's for dinner.
Paul
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 11/13/2008 1:56:28 PM
Message:Mongoose is just plain nasty- not nearly as good as rat, say. Starvation food, if even then- and I eat any kine...
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 11/13/2008 2:43:08 PM
Message:
quote:Tink I goin stop at 99. Godda play possum, now. Ha! Ha!
Originally posted by wcerto
Eh Herb - you was tryin fo get da leben hunnert? Missed it by that much --> - <--.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/14/2008 02:42:45 AM
Message:What about one prime rib roast? To me da rib da best part of da pipi, even rib steaks. Can make teriyaki if need. What about duck, goose or pheasant. We get pheasants in da freezer right now. But gotta have da green bean casserole with mushroom soup and crumbled French's onions on top. Also Italian style green beans, saute onion & gahlick in da pot, den add da frozen bag o green beans (hemo da bag) add one can chopped tomatoes & dey juice. Den add some basil & oregano & cook da buggah 3 hours. Ono. Corn pudding is good, way good. Lasagne , she goes. Always good for a crown on holidays. How about da whole steamed fish? I neva get to eat opakapaka, den last time one guy at the aquarium tell me one moratorium on fishing for opakapaka cause overfished awreaddy. I have a recipe for stuffed papaya, sounds ono and would look purdy, too.
And gotta have one jello mold.
Get gooses in Hawai`i except for nene?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/14/2008 06:20:55 AM
Message:One time for Easter, we made home-made ravioli -- even da pasta dough. Was ono to da max, but whew, hana to da max. And when you make it, gotta make choke. Dis not one `ohana li`ili`i. If they were not Italian would be Samoan.
Anoddah good side dish to go with turkey or ham -- fried apples. Get some granny smith and some macintosh. Just slice em up -- no peeling required. Saute in butter can put one lid so dey steam good. Den when almost too soft, add liddo bit brown sugar or dat raw Maui sugar, and maybe wee bit of cinnamon. Broke da mout.
Befo time (befo heart attack) I would make a salt crust to go on da prime rib. Tons of salt, just enough water to make it like wet sand. Crust da beef roast in da salt, cover it all over make crust like. Den cook em low and slow. When pau, break da salt crust off an trow away. Da roast stay juicy and ono. Also good for to brine da turkey. Get da coolah, put water and lots and lots of salt - maybe 2 cups. Also something acid - lemon juice, orange juice, vinegah, wine, whatevah. Also someting sweet - bestest is brown sugah. Can add spices, too like whole pepper corns, parsley, onion flating around. Den put da turkey minus giblets in da cool and put choke ice on top da buggah. Close dat coolah and let dat turkey sit ovah nite. He not going be too salty. He only absorb tru osmosis only to balance same salt inside da turkey as stay in solution outside da turkey. Den dry him off good da next day and cook da buggah. Cannot put stuffing in him because stuffing get too wet and no taste good. Make da stuffing in da crockpot for a crowd..
But always brine your turkey. He come tender and juicy and ono.
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 11/14/2008 07:29:23 AM
Message:Wanda - 3 years ago I switched from preparing turkey for Xmas dinnah to prime rib - much easier to prepare and onolicious. I'll do it again for Xmas this year.
Sir Duke - when I worked in Germany, the guy who owned the gasthaus I was staying at prepared a goose for us. Gosse is very fatty, and, if not cooked properly, is pretty greasy
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 11/14/2008 07:48:03 AM
Message:I like add opihi to da fantasy feast. Las' time I had it, I ate so much I made myself sick (was waaaay long time ago wen had planny opihi so I could make a pig of myself). My uncle makes 'em wit mustard an vinegar an shoyu an someting else I no can remembah.
An lomi oio. ('kay, I ste waitin' fo da jokes.)
An my dear departed gramma's nishime. Gramma was dat kine cook who nevah mejah anyting - she jus eyeball 'em. Noboddy can make nishime like hers cuz we donno how much ingredaments to add.
An taro duck an cake noodles wit red vinegah from Pahke's.
An custard pie from Deelite Bakery (Petah, you wuz right).
Eh, wot happened to da place used to make haupia sweet bread? Had chunks of haupia insai da bread.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 11/14/2008 09:14:42 AM
Message:Da day is young and I get chance for make it through at unda 2000 K. Bud reading dis tread rite now, is not helping. Today I gotta go physical terapy, hahd yeah, I gotta go drive past Pahke's anden Delite Bakery. You know when you drive thru Kaneohe you gain weight, mobetta take Kahekili highway anden bypass mo safe.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 11/14/2008 11:13:24 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
mobetta take Kahekili highway anden bypass mo safe.
Take da bypass to avoid one bypass. Not so ono, but f'real mo safe.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/14/2008 11:30:55 AM
Message:One bypass no fun. 4 bypass even worse. Garanz ballbarenz. Almost a year already and still my sternum hurts where they sliced me open and then wired me back together. Some days it just aches and aches. At rehab they tole me some people, it always hurts, never gets better, especially women who have the left mammary artery used for one of the bypasses (which I did). Oh boy. Just what I wanted to hear.
I would like to have prime rib for Christmas dinner -- very traditional Anglo kinda thing. But yow -- how much you reckon it might cost to feed about 20 some people. When I get one just for Paul and me - maybe three bones, costs about $50.00.
Help me figure out a theme for my New Year's Eve party. Did not have one last year, for obvious reasons. But one year, we had all kine dim sum. All kine dim sum, except chicken feet or tripe. And i actually bought way too much, had manpua for days. One year we had fancy little "finger foods". Anoddah year, we had corned beef sandwiches and potato pancakes. Mmmm. I have such a hankerin' for good corned beef sandwiches (not from a can - the real thing), but I think now I would not be able to stand it because of the salt, since I am used to not hardly any salt. I wanted to have a "soup kitchen" for this year but Paul says not conducive to a crowd, since we do not have enough room for everyone to sit around a table.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 11/14/2008 12:28:14 PM
Message:Got fo get laulau- pulusami good, but nebbah yet wen make one party widout da laulau- mebbe cause I was one luau farmer...
Wanda, I like hearing your midwest recipies- mos of da ones da oddah guys like share ono, but I know how already.
My parents raised geese in Hawai'i- was ono wen my moddah wen make um! Jus slow cook in da oven, on a rack for the drippings. Plenny duck too we wen eat- I like um wid da sweet orange glaze.
One question for the Seattle crew- or any mainland coastal Hawaiian transplants. Choke limpets on da rocks up an down da Pacific- dese buggahs any good? Some different kine ophi, but no reason fo dem not to stay ono, no? Me, I'm allergic to shellfish, so I nevah like try, but fo shoa one of you folks wen try um?
An be shua fo let me know when Duke an Wanda get together fo tanksgivin- das goine be some ono grines! Broke da mout, no can walk kine fo shoa!
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/14/2008 1:05:20 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by slipry1
... when I worked in Germany, the guy who owned the gasthaus I was staying at prepared a goose for us.
Ah, the infamous Weinachtsganz! I neva ate goose. But I need to try it. I like duck, just about any kine way. I can make em good, not greasy. Absolutely need to use a rack. If nomo rack, can put whole carrots and celery stalks under to use for a rack. But don't eat them after the duck is cooked, they will be too greasy and make you tummy not feel too good.
I like Peking Duck and da Cantonese Pressed Duck. Both are ono. I also made some kine cajun duck breast with cheesy grits. That was back in the olden "pork fat rules" days. My two favorite chefs on the Food Network are Emeril and Paula Deen, both of whom HAVE to have blocked up arteries, too, wouldn't you think? Hacome I get the blocked arteries and da heart trouble and they don't?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/14/2008 1:10:49 PM
Message:What about mochi? Any you guyz evah do all da work for this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uap8_CVkmHU
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 11/14/2008 5:53:13 PM
Message:Besides all dat, I like goat (like they make in Crete) and lamb (like in Sardinia). Plain, plain, plain, plain; plain with salt and rosemary. The trick is dah outdoor oven (like da portagee-bread oven). And, wana. Goose....daz ono. Godda have German style hot potato salad. Plenty kine sushi, be nice, nee? Couple portagee-style, deep-fry rabbits.
No need bread; cept pao duce. Pie! Any kine, no, Momi?? Delite bakery custard pie. E, Momi/Guava!! Back 63-64 time frame, I was going UH. Lived on Kam School grounds (had part time job, dea, trying fo teach science) and go UH on one 63 Vespa. One time had one date. So... us on the Vespa wen go Deelite, pickup one custard pie fo take 'home' but eat da whole ting from da bakery to Kam Heights riding the Vespa; try eat pie, lick fingahs, and work gas throttle. Okay, okay, okay: no laugh you lame brain Buggahs!!!!!!! At least dat time could go swim night time. No laugh, you Buggahs!!!
Herb
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 11/14/2008 6:48:21 PM
Message:Once again, I'm lost in the conversation.
Oh, Momi, deah ... can translate o' wat?
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 11/14/2008 6:52:52 PM
Message:Laulau works for me. And ahi poke. Jambalaya,seared ahi, fried codfish, nearly any kind of fish or shellfish. I believe in the 4 main food groups- Beef, pork, seafood and game.
Paul
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/15/2008 03:33:30 AM
Message:Paul does love my jambalaya. It truly is one of the most ono, flavah-lishus dishes that I cook. Not a cheap meal. Prep takes a while, but well worth it.
Need: 1/2 lbs. skinless boneless chicken breast; 1/2 lb. HOT Italian sausage (can use any kine spicy sausage); 1 small ham steak, diced. tiny salad shrimps - about 1 lbs., or crab meat (da bestest) if can afford. Shrimps can be already cooked frzen kine from grocery store. Need one big can chopped or diced tomatoes - I tink dey 28 oz. Also need 1 big onion; one green pepper, two stalks celery. OK, make ereting diced except for sausage and shrimp or crab. Oh, wait. I fogot da bacon. Need 4 strips bacon, diced. Put bacon in cold pan. Remembah, bacon ALWAYS goes in cold pan. Cook over medium heat until bacon gets liddo brown and renders da bacon grease. Trow in the chopped vegetables. Lower heat to med low and ssweat da veggies. When onion nice an soft and limp, add plenny gahlick, however much you like. Nevah cook gahlick high heat, it goin come bittah. While da veg cooking down, dice chicken breasts and ham, and take da sausage out of da casing if can, if no can, fry howevah long it take. Then chop or dice sausage. In liddo bit olive oil, sautee chicken breast until look cooked but don't dry em out, then add ham, sautee some moah. Then add the can of tomatoes, juice and all. Season wit salt, peppah, crushed red peppa to what you like taste hot; some thyme, some marjoram and some ground cloves, 1/2 tsp. each. Den add all the meats not the seafood. Also add about 4 cups already cooked rice. Stir em all up and turn heat down low and simmah about 20 min. If too dry add broth, stock or tomato/V8 juice to keep a liddo bit moist. Afta 20 min, add sea food, Cook just til seafood get heated tru. Gottah have good bread fo dunk in da juices. Truly one ono dish. Ask Paul. He likes me make it fo his birthday or father's day.
I think I need to make some now.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/15/2008 08:25:29 AM
Message:Is butter fish a species or a preparation method?
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 11/15/2008 12:21:37 PM
Message:Eh, Wanda, I add bulk sausage to my Jambalaya, and a package of Andouille chopped up and rendered. I use olive oil for the roux, but toast the flour on a cookie sheet under the broiler till it gets brown. Olive oil won't take the heat that lard will for cooking roux, so the browning the flour trick cooks it and makes a fair roux.
For T'anksgiving I'll be doing pumpkin cheesecake (graham cracker crust, follow the pumpkin pie recipe, but add 2 blocks of cream cheese and a couple eggs and a bit of brown sugar), and a plum crisp. I told my sister-in-law that if get more guests, I'll do a stuffed pork loin--stuff it with chopped kielbasa, onions, garlic and breadcrumbs.
I used to worry about eating too much, til I realized that judicious use of the freezer can make the feast last a long time and give me something quick to fix after work.
Pierogies are always in order.
Fun thing to do while cooking-listen to CDs.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 11/15/2008 12:23:32 PM
Message:Eh, Duke, Jay and Peter, Slipry1 and I stay goin' come Oahu in about 8 weeks!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/15/2008 2:32:30 PM
Message:Eh Kory: I do not make a roux for jambalaya - do not need the thickening when putting the ri e into the pot with da oddah stuff. I oni make roux for gumbo.
But today I made a big pot of oxtail soup. Mmmm. Very beefy. I cooked the oxtails, onions, etc., yesterday so I could refrigerate overnight and let grease rise to the top. Today I scraped off the layer of grease (plenty) and added my fresh & some various frozen veg. Another good thing to do is save in a freezer contaier, all little bits of left over veggies, gravy or sauces that might be compatible and then when container gets full, make a big pot o soup. Frugal and yummy.
My girls used to read a book about stone soup. Also about Strega Nona and the magic pasta pot.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/15/2008 4:29:03 PM
Message:Braddah Ed - when we went, I had da whitest, palest legs. Pasty white. But after I got Waikiki, I was no shame cawz plenny oddah tourists had white legs. I got sunburned, though, and ended up a lovely shade of red.
Don't have to hit da tanning salon. Can get vaeline intensive care lotion to put on which gradually turns you tanned looking with a gentle glow. Not orange like all the old time self tanners. But must exfoliate well prior to application. Ahdunno how it would work on men with hair all ovah dey arms and chest and legs. And armpits.
Why women shave armpits and men do not? Same same legs and oddah stuffs?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/15/2008 4:31:44 PM
Message:What means "uta" or something lidat. I have heard on some of da Iz recordings, he says something that sounds like "uta". Cannot be Hawaiian or can it with letter "t"?
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 11/15/2008 6:23:08 PM
Message:Wandah, as fah as I know, "buttahfish" is same ting as black cod an sablefish. Buttahfish real oily, so da buggah good in da laulau fo give flavah (plus da pohk fat, which rules, ov coahse).
Accohding to da "Food Lover's Companion":
"Found off the Atlantic and Gulf coasts, the small (average 8 ounces), high-fat butterfish has a tender texture and a rich, sweet flavor. It is usually sold whole and is sometimes smoked. Butterfish can be broiled, baked, grilled or sautéed. Depending on the region, they're also known as dollarfish, Pacific pompano and pomfret . See also FISH; SABLEFISH."
"Uta," at least in Kepanee, means "song." Ahdonno what songs Iz was singing, but I doubt dat's what he was referring to. Get planny mo `olelo experts heah, but get t's in Hawaiian - tutu, fo' exampo. Mebbe he was singing in dialect? An, eh, `olelo experts, haccome "tutu" nevah become "kuku"--oa did I jes ansah my own question?
Gotta get da custard pie from da Kane`ohe Delite - I donno about da oddah ones.
I gettin' all hongry again, an dis aftah we wen kaukau at Lunchbox Laboratory tonite and had humongo burgahs.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 11/15/2008 7:53:12 PM
Message:
quote:Expect a better "broken English" response from Momi, but since she's on the sofa playing bossa nova tunes on `ukulele right now, I get to reply.
Originally posted by guavasunrise
Lunchbox Laboratory? So how was?
Was ono - mea ono. Bambucha burgers.
These guys take "burger"-dom to an extreme level. More than a half-dozen kinds of meat to choose from, including their own blends (Churken: chicken+turkey; Dork: duck+pork; Lawrence Velk: venison+elk), about a dozen choices of cheese, a score of sauces and additional toppings. Pricy, but we ain't talking fast-food burgers here. Funky little hole-in-the-wall shop with classically kitschy decor (mostly old lunchboxes). Out-bloody-standing food - but you better be hungry.
(WARNING TO WANDA --- Close your eyes for this next part)
I had "The Smoker" - ground top sirloin, maple bacon, havarti cheese, grilled onions, smoked chipotle mayo, bbq sauce, I dunno what else, on a kaiser roll. (No, I do NOT eat like this very often.) Momi had a lamb-burger with a basil-garlic aioli/mayo, and we split what they called "onion fries" - like onion rings, but in the shape and size of french fries. She drank watah, I had what's known as a "Dublin" Dr. Pepper - it's the original D.P. formula, made in Dublin, Texas, with cane sugar rather than corn syrup, available in small batches (and small bottles).
(WANDA --- you may open your eyes now)
Their website (which is sloppily inaccurate in a number of ways) is http://www.lunchboxlaboratory.com/
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 11/16/2008 11:37:34 AM
Message:Wassup braddah ed,befo days maybe dat plus one pound potatoe salad,chips,and one soda.Only ting not much good fo anyting afta dat,dem days a ting of da past.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 11/16/2008 1:09:52 PM
Message:Gotta admit - I don't think that photo was taken at the restaurant. The seats don't look like what we saw, and the burgers, while huge, didn't seem THAT big. Unless that was a special order of some kind.
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 11/16/2008 2:55:27 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrisequote:So Kory, how long before leaving do you guys start hitting da tanning salons?
Originally posted by thumbstruck
Eh, Duke, Jay and Peter, Slipry1 and I stay goin' come Oahu in about 8 weeks!
You got it, Bra! No want diakon leg - hey, dere goes da tourist!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/16/2008 4:52:52 PM
Message:Ice cream -- that is one thing I surely love. I don't like Breyers. Too grainy, ice crystals. Mo bettah Pierre's from right here in Cleveland or Graeter's from Cincinnati. But even better is wcerto Ice Cream Co.
I haven't made any for a great while, but when I do, ho, braddah. Nothing but good cream, sugar, vanilla, eggs. I have made some good flavors like Amaretto with slivered toasted almonds and Amaretto di Saronno or Bailey's Irish Creme, fresh strawberries; butter pecan, even made blueberry sorbet. And the plain vanilla is way ono, too. I like homemade because store bought ice cream seems gummy to me with whatever thickeners or agaragar they put.
I cannot abide the sugar free, fat free ice cream. First of all aint no way shape or fashion that it is ice cream. It is only some mix of chemicals and dimethyl-bad stuff.
OK, I am going to work out on the recumbent cycle extra more tomorrow. Gotta get ready for Thanksgiving, a day in which I am going to eat what I want. The day after Thanksgiving last year is the day I began having heart problems. I'm getting a bit scared of the anniversary date.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/16/2008 4:55:43 PM
Message:PS: For the super duper Tahnksgiving dream buffet that Dukie is putting together -- I would also add some good wine. My favorite is Piesporter Gold Tropfchen or even Zeller Schwartze Katze. For bubbly, I like Korbel Brut.
Wine, especially red wine is really good for you, one 5 oz. glass per day. Lots of antioxidents and other good stuff.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 11/16/2008 5:08:07 PM
Message:Wanda, I bot sum sulfite free wine dis weeken', woz real good but no woz good coz I wen chug em like beeyah and den won bottoh wen pau reel kweek anden I wen pass out. Oh wait, I wen go buy 2 bottoh.
Breyers is grainy coz nomo da odda kine junks. Hoh tahk abou't amaretto an baileys, befoe time wen I had cute girlfren, I mek good kine stuff. Yea Guava-man, woz da won had pooka pantez on pohposs. Frozen baileys on breyers vanilla ice creem, wid home-made Kahlua - yea I make em wid vanilla beens an da kine wite litening an dark coffee bean an shugah (commercial kine wite litening). I had my own ice-cream mekah. In doze daze, I woz purdy sweet an sensitive buh now I sowah like lemon an pakiki like humu humu ele ele skin coz now I won gromp ole fut. I useta mek buttah pecan cookies too. Buh she wen ged fat too coz she no like go run fo 25-30 miles a week an pump iron at da gym. Azz y hahd.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/16/2008 5:36:22 PM
Message:Ahdunno about sowah poi. George Kahumoku talks about footprints in da poi. Now az y hahd! I neva like footprints in my kaukau. Somehow just makes da appetite go holoholo.
And Glenn....pooka panties ON POHPOSS ....I no even want to tink about dat. Well except panties get two big pookaz on pohposs, for each leg to go in. Now no make me blush. Even yo pooka bebedees get da same kind two pooks and prolly even one nodda in da middo.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 11/16/2008 6:54:59 PM
Message:
quote:That's sort of what the mosquitoes say when I visit the Islands - "Oooh, look! White meat flown in fresh from the Mainland!" - then they attack. They leave Momi + family alone when I'm there; I'm their favorite mosquito repellent.
Originally posted by slipry1
You got it, Bra! No want diakon leg - hey, dere goes da tourist!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/16/2008 7:57:38 PM
Message:Gregg - da oddah white meat? I wondah if da skeedz say "tastes like cheeken."
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 11/16/2008 8:05:12 PM
Message:I tot da oddah white meat was popoki?
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 11/16/2008 8:17:26 PM
Message:Meownapua?
I stay rolling!
I tink mebbee I wen try dat one...
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 11/16/2008 8:32:09 PM
Message:Dat's not daikon legs - dat's turkey legs! Daikon not dat brown. Dat aloha shirt looks disturbingly familiar, however.
Wanda and Glennpachi, how you get da ice cream wit alcohol to freeze?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/17/2008 04:30:07 AM
Message:Eh Momi and Glenn: Can put da booze insai da ice cream. Freeze 'em up in your ice cream maker, then when the ice cream is pau freezing, add da booze and run it for a few more minutes to get even distribution. You are right Momi, that if you put the alcohol in at the beginiing, it will not freeze up.
I once had a contractor who made gas caps for the M-1 tank and for some big trucks for the Army. They were just stampings, nothing complicated. But, he had to test them at high temp and at low temp to make sure they could be safely screwed on or off the filler neck for the gas tank. The high temp was 130 deg. F and the cold temp was -20 deg. F. He was a very simple contractor. Not sophisticated, running on a budget, so he fabricated his own hot and cold chambers for testing. The hot chamber was a simple metal box sitting on top of a Coleman stove with a calibrated (traceable to NIST) thermometer. The cold chamber was a styrofoam picnic cooler that he would fill with dry ice, also with a calibrated thermometer. Then he had to install the gas cap on the filler neck 3 times, measuring the torque to put on and off and it had to meet a specific value range in order to pass. My boss thought this was scandalous that the guy used homemade test equipment instead of spending $$$$ to buy one that someone else would make. Well, I went through the spec with a fine tooth comb, and there was nothing in the spec that said he had to have any specific kind of test apparatus. It simply said to torque it on and off 3 times and in temperators of a specified range. It said record the readings and any three average readings that came out below the spec limit failed. I convinced my boss that there was nothing in the contract that was violated and moreover, if he insisted the contractor buy a "professionally made" test chamber, that would be a constructive change to the contract and the contractor would have a valid claim against the governmenet. Moreover, since I was a quality specialist, as was my boss, we were not authorized to make changes to the contract since we were not contracting officers and had no warrant binding the government.
The point in this whole missive is that the contractor also had a still iin his factory. He made some kind of white lightning in the still and it was clear as water. One day after pau hana with testing the gas caps, he decided since dry ice was still in the cold chamber, to chrai freeze the white lightning to see at what temp it would freeze. Da buggah never did freeze, even at minus 50 deg. F. It kinda thickened up like syrup but never did freeze. And he had the nerve to want me to taste that poison. I never tasted it, but he did and he loved way cold like that. I woulda thought it would froze his lips and his tongue and his esophagus.
This same contractor did some welding at a bench, speaking of puka bebedees. He did not have pukas in his bebedees. He did not wear bebedees. But da zipper in his jeans was busted and he did not know. He welded all day long and den pau hana he went to lua and found he had sunburn on his hinalea. Ouch ouch. But I did not inspect this. He only just told me the story, but I believe every word, cause that is the kinda guy he was (RIP, Biff). Yes, his name was Biff.
I had another friend I worked with, was mahu. He wore very, very tight pants, so tight that they ripped a wee bit on the side seam. You could see his white bebedees tru da puka in da pants, so he colored his bebedees wit a black magic marker, so no could see da white bebedees, and not be noticeable. Trouble is eretime he moved, da puka would move and more of da white bebedees would show tru. So he colored more spots always trying to keep da pukas from showing. Den was end of day and pau hana. He went home and dilemma solved. Dat was my friend Normie, No bodda me he mahu, he was a great friend until he wen move NYC. He da one muddah go ma'ke on Sept 11, 2001, on his birtday.
An you guys talking about kitties, `Oni`Oni reading ovah my shoulda and she getting grumpy at you guys.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/17/2008 04:35:39 AM
Message:But da meownapua gets me tinkin about `Oni`Oni watching da baseball games ontop da TV. She likes Kitty Lofton, Omeower Vizquel and Sandy and Robby Alomeower.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 11/17/2008 3:29:32 PM
Message:Eh, Jay. I don't go to tanning salons, I freckle an' burn. Sunscreen all da way! Also I get one hat collection. Like Duke, I love da shade.
Eh, Wanda, can freeze booze, and den break da ice an' pour out da "pure". Place I worked one time, dey had 5 gallon boxes of frozen grape juice an' apple juice. Da middle never froze, was ju'like one slushy. Was ono.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/17/2008 6:48:43 PM
Message:Oooh, the socks with sandals. Please don't do that. The fashion police will get you and put you away.
An addition to Duke's fantasy all you can eat Thanksgiving Buffet -- invented in Cajun land, the infamous turduckhen. A turkey stuffed with a duck which is stuffed with a chicken. That must be for those on a low carb diet.
Check em out over here: http://whitetrashbbq.blogspot.com/2008/08/turduckhen.html
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 11/18/2008 04:59:23 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
An addition to Duke's fantasy all you can eat Thanksgiving Buffet -- invented in Cajun land, the infamous turduckhen. A turkey stuffed with a duck which is stuffed with a chicken. That must be for those on a low carb diet.
Ah, Cajuns! I've spent time among 'em, dancing & playing! There was a great documentary about them which capture the culture exactly- "Spend It All!".
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 11/19/2008 06:42:22 AM
Message:Passing on a message from someone else - a participant on another board I frequent is doing research for her Master's Degree in English at the University of Freiburg in Germany. She is working on a thesis regarding Pidgin (in edu-speak, "Hawai`i Creole English").
She is asking if people would fill out an online survey, anonymously, at http://www.questionpro.com/akira/TakeSurvey?id=1093406
Please note: I do not know her personally, only through board discussions, and I have not taken the survey - but it appears to be legit, and she needs as much of a sample as she can get; perhaps there are TP'ers who would like to participate. Her contact info is at the website, if you have additional questions.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 11/19/2008 8:24:30 PM
Message:Braddah Duke,
Get too many zero in da numbahs. So fa, da Fed wen give two trillion to da banks. If goine split two trillion wid two hunred millon peoples, each one onli goine get ten tousan dollah. Chicken feed, no?
But, get moa keiki den you tink. Get a lil bit less den 80 million family in dis ovahsize country. If you go do da math, goine fine out dere goine be jes ovah $25,000 foa one family- cept you goine get moa cause get moa den 1.8 keiki.
So sad, doe- das not how da buggah goine work. Dese kolohe buggah wen steal da government, dey get one different plan. Wid dis plan, da way it goine stay work is ebery family goine PAY $25,000 to dere frens, den dey all goine be some plenny rich. Cept you, bradddah, cause you get moa den 1.8 keiki so yoa share goine be moa big. Dem kolohe buggahs get one ono plan, no? Kinda like da buggah Robin Hood, cept backwards kine- goine take from da poa an give um all to da kanaka waiwai.
But no worries, brah- you goine get da bail out! Dey goine take one big ipu, an bail all da kala outta yoa bank account. Den you no goine have no moa worries bout da kala, cause you no goine have no moa. So no worry bout no ting, dey get um all planned...
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/20/2008 02:32:38 AM
Message:Dass why you O`ahu guys better take advantage of both the kanikapila at Higher Ground that Lanet put togeddah and also the Uncle Cyril on ova Waimanalo. Two chances to play music wit odaah peepos who also like da music. And den, oddah peepos gonna hear about. And maybe, jus maybe a young guy gonna hear da music you guys playin and tink "eh, da music, she go." Or tink "Eh, look Unko Duke fingahz flyin playing dat Punahele". Or maybe tin "Eh, dat Unko Jay, he get da riddim, eh. He one happy star!" Remembah, young Kimo we met in Waikiki - 16 yeahz ol hungry fo play Hawaiian music wit sumboddeh, he wen stop and talk to one ole hairy haole buggah like Paul. And had fun, too. He even writes me e-mails, dat young Kimo. But he said he have no one to play wit, kids at St. Louis skoo no want play dat kine. So encourage da young fokes like Kimo and Zack. Encourage Chago - he is old enough to learn `ukulele. Go to erry kani you can fine and have good fun. Peepo goin see you have fun and want fo have good fun, too.
Funny ting no mo peepo want to play, but look da comments on yo videoz on you tube, Dukie. Da peepo almos cry say you remine dem of home; remine dem of backyahd kanikapila. You guys can be da slack key misshunariez on O`ahu - spread da good news, so to speak. Can do, can do, can do (Herb's 3 x rule).
Do you know what Paul would give for opportunities to play Hawaiian music wit oddah folks right in his own backyahd? His left you know what, I tink.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 11/20/2008 04:09:17 AM
Message:Again da world's problems been solved in da taropatch, but da lolos not even listening! Tinkle down economics or whatevahs, kala attract da power, power attract da kala. Even 10K could be a stimulous!
On da mainland, still get plenty peepo like da old style. Keep playing da music, even if in da supermarket parkinglot.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 11/29/2008 08:55:42 AM
Message:Ho boy falling down on da job. Yu no I been reel bizy lidat yuno, Go skool, go teach go make da student smaht, ah bud I neva wen look at da tred anden fo like won week lidat. So wat you guyz, dis won almos wen falloff da page. Kenna let dat happen. Sorry ah.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/29/2008 10:17:40 AM
Message:If Dukie and Menpachi no have profound wordz fo say, den....
But Glenn will be going home in a few weeks fo one mont. We gotta have him give us da blow by blow when he come back, yeah? We see what kine ulua he get and how many menpachi, since he stay luna da feeshin. We can see if he take dat fit and strong kino and get some opihi. And Glenn, gotta tell us who you wen kani wit. And tell us how many mochi you go make for new yeahz.
Den go Laupahoehoe fo give Dukie's maddah owah alohaz. An fine Konabob and give him owah alohaz, and Keoki, and Auntie Diana, and Kindy Sproat and Don Kaulia and Leilehua and all dem Beeg Island guys.
And of course we send our aloha to your mama also too.
Petah - wot you wen grine fo Tanksgeevin? Do you cook da kaukau o you wifely wife? No wait, I don't mean do you cook yoah wife....
We wen Paul's seestah house. Did you evah see anyone make clear gravy? Yeah, transparent, see through gravy. See, she had one heart attack befo I had my troubles. So she want da low fat low salt Tanksgeevin. I can dig that. I unnahstan, since I have to do da same kine diet, also too. But sheesh. I nevah tought it meant no flavah or taste no color. She made stock to feed gravy to 13 peepo out of one turkey neck an two turkey wings. And das all she put. She neva even wen brown dem or roas in da oven for get dem brown. She only slightly ticken da broth wit kohn staach. Az y hahd.
Did anyone watch miff bustaz wit da invisible wai fo float da tin foil wa`a? Hoh, dat da best TV show. Dem guys get choke good fun on dey job. Shootz.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/30/2008 01:44:59 AM
Message:My ma usta eat da turkey okole. She would always eat da pahts nomo odda peepo want -- like da cheeken back, da okole, da :giblets:. Now I rarely even buy a whole cheeken an cut him up myself. I buy pieces alreddeh cut eedah skinless boneless breats or skinless boneless thighs. Sometimes I like buy a whole cheeken and put da beeyah can up his okole. Makes ono chicken. Az true! Noho cheeken! He sit on da beeyah jalike one trone. And if you no like beeyah, can have one empty pop can or whatevah and put whatevah juice you like, lemon juice, orange juice, even brot. Can even go to da stowah an buy one gadget ting for to noho da moa. Fo realz!
But don da turkey okole get plenny gristle chewy chewy kine? And da buggah, he nevah get brown, always pale white like my legs when I hele Hawai`i. I do like da crispy turkey skin. Ha-ha, Paul's sistah hemo da skin da turkey befo cooking him. She cook in in one "cooking bag". His nui kino was white even when he stay done. Moa `ilikea. Az y hahd.
But my taters were good and my corn side dish. In da mashed taters instead da sowah cream owah cream cheese I usually put and da lots and lots buttah, I wen put butta milk. Give da taste of sowah cream lidat but not so many calories and fat grams. But do have some salt in it, but I figgah not too much since noting else had salt, my taters wouldn't hurt someone.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 11/30/2008 10:51:58 AM
Message:Eh, Wanda. Can use non-fat yoghurt also. Even when non-fat cooking a turkey (or chicken), get more flavor from browning the outside, caramelization.
You can set the bird on a couple carrots and celery stalks, and as the bird cooks, the veggies caramelize. Good canned chicken broth can be cooked down to concentrate the flavor. Can add garlic and onion to the roasting pan.
My leftovers are safely frozen in meals for one dimensions for future reference.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 12/01/2008 03:32:15 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck
You can set the bird on a couple carrots and celery stalks, and as the bird cooks, the veggies caramelize.
Kory - you are so right, but Paul's seestah, well, maybe das why in Hawai`i da kanes cook lidat. Dey mus have wifes like his seestah. Too cheap to buy broth.
But da bes for da carrots andd celery stalks is if you nomo get a rack fo cook da manu nui.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 12/01/2008 03:35:24 AM
Message:Dukie - I not da same kine mama dat my mama waz. I no eat da less popular pieces to sacrifice for my keiki. I buy da stuff I like, like shrimps and lobstah at Christmas an tell da girls, too good for chirren. When they want to know why we never too dem to Hawai`i, we tole dem too good for chirren.
Gotta keep kids in their place, you know.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 12/02/2008 07:15:09 AM
Message:Eh Petah, whea you? How da book comin along? Not nudging, you know. Just wondering status thereof (does that sound like college speak????)
My head is aching. Snow outside again, and da electric company going all ovah da neighborhood trimming trees in way of electric lines and then they grind them up right then and there and the constant noise is boring right into my skull. I think I shall put my Patrick Landeza Christmas CD on the stereo and turn it way up. Me & popoki shall go through our Christmas cookie recipes and decide what to make.
I have a recipe for Archway Pecan nougat cookies. I was freaking because Archway went out of business and I would buy these pecan nougat holiday cookies every year. You could only get them at holiday time. I found a recipe on line from some other kind sould who was just as freaked out as I was. And the thing has no sodium, very little sugar and a moderate amount of butter. ?But ono. If anyone wants recipe, let me know.
Got Christmas cards all addressed today with popoki's help. Next task to lick da buggahs. Bleeeecch.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 12/05/2008 3:57:07 PM
Message:Sorry Eh! I still get won excuse, ah but school not pau fo me until monday. Dis semesta waz bus azz had planny werk had fo catch up on from when I was going tru chemo. I had to put in plany extra time. Kenna werk on da book wen godda go school. Anden da book I godda gedem right yeah, if was jez da music was pau long time ago, but had to add da explanations lidat.
My wife and I no like take chance da way da economy stay. But today stay numba tree dat I stay werkin on da new layout. Dis weekend or early nex week lidat I finish up da layout anden da final final edit on book 1 anden print soon, but aloha ino xmas iz gonna be won bust, da printas kenna print so no hold yoa breath. Moa realistically da spiffy book would be ready mo like Fabuary lidat. Can try pushem out soona but I no like go crazy, diz semesta waz hahd and I still goin physical tarapy lidat fo learn how to walk.
Da problem iz az won serious study of slack key lidat you know it was too big anden too hi falootin fo da public, like you say da college speaksometimes too technical had to tonem down. On topadat get planny reel music writing wid da tabs undaneat so allada guyz who can reed music fo udda instruments can play lidat. But I stay proud of 'em. It'z won cleah statement on slack key like how I wen lernem an like how I wen teachem. Anden I stay won educated bruddah, so I had to ritem in english wid da music notes yeah. But no worry get planny pictures if you no can reed.
Az I wen mansion da study waz way too big, 'coz waz from almos forty yeahs teachin so had to splidemup. No get jez won book oa two books mo like foa. Rite now looks like numba won book, da methed book, iz about two hundred pages. I trying too figah out if I should pullout da chapta on da secret stuff oa wat ? Somebody wen tell me no pudem in 'coz you godda leave da public wanting moa. But wot if I go kick off almos wen happen diz yea. So das da scoops. Aloha.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 12/06/2008 05:12:22 AM
Message:The night Bafo Christmas kinda reminds me of hillbilly "pidgin" from Archie Campbell, who usta be on Hee-Haw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJv_YXIXBsE
We also have a CD of pidgin fairy tales and such. One place, he talks about TV shows like Smoke Gun and Rifle Kane, both two shows that Paul loved to watch (still can ontop da old TV show channel).
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 12/07/2008 07:06:49 AM
Message:While Bwana Paul is away deer hunting, `Oni`Oni and I did our gift wrapping for Christmas. `Oni ackshually is one majah pain in da `okole when it comes to rappin da makana. She likes to walk on da pepa and get kitty toenail pukas in da pepah. Den she like chrai fo eat da glue from ontop da tape. Den she like to eat da ribbonz. Az y hahd. Ah dunno if you can see in a peecha, but `Oni is polydactyl. She get choke fingahz.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 12/08/2008 10:51:51 AM
Message:Because of work, I missed the lutefisk / meatball dinner at the Sons of Norway. Oh, vell....
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 12/08/2008 12:33:47 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck
Because of work, I missed the lutefisk / meatball dinner at the Sons of Norway. Oh, vell....
Well, da eatballs stay ok, but da Lutefisk!!!???? Gaaah....
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 12/09/2008 1:11:00 PM
Message:Eh, but how does Lee's compare to da Deelite Bakery's one in Kane`ohe? Dat's da taste test I like take.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 12/09/2008 6:17:14 PM
Message:On T'anksgiving I wen' bake one pumpkin cheesecake an' one plum crisp (ono, foa da record). I've made key lime pies in da pas', so I wonder if when making dakine custard if you use sweetened condensed milk foa get da velvety smooth texture. Any idea?
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 12/14/2008 11:57:11 AM
Message:Eh, Duke. Good foa know da confirmation of da condensed milk. When I make plain ol' pumpkin pie, I add one package cream cheese foa make'm smooth.
Reply author: Baritone
Replied on: 12/18/2008 02:33:58 AM
Message:My Louisiana girlfiend use condensed sweet milk in EVERYTHING: pies, cakes, breads, pastries, coffee, tea. SOME ONO! But, proportions added were her secret, since too little killed the taste and too much was overwhelming. Then I go Arizona and dat one put em in her filidough pie crusts! Daz why I do too things whereva I go: custard pie and bread pudding. Oh yeah, coffee, too.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 12/18/2008 03:02:23 AM
Message:If you like sweetened condensed milk, then gotta go to foodnetwork.com and get Paula Deen's recipe for "Not Yo Mama's" Banana Pudding. Some ono dat. It has become an Easter-time favorite in our family.
Or what about the Puerto Rican "Tres Leches" cake --wow.
OK, I'll go back to my cookie baking now. Today I'll be rolling out and cutting the sugar cookies and decorate them tomorrow.
Gotta go buy a new car today, too.
Only one week until Christmas! Woo-hoo.
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 12/18/2008 04:16:09 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
If you like sweetened condensed milk, then gotta go to foodnetwork.com and get Paula Deen's recipe for "Not Yo Mama's" Banana Pudding. Some ono dat. It has become an Easter-time favorite in our family.
Or what about the Puerto Rican "Tres Leches" cake --wow.
OK, I'll go back to my cookie baking now. Today I'll be rolling out and cutting the sugar cookies and decorate them tomorrow.
Gotta go buy a new car today, too.
Only one week until Christmas! Woo-hoo.
Trick I learned from my Chicano brother in law: take can of condensed mile, punch a couple of holes in top, put in pot of water (not over the top of the can!), bring to boil for 5 minutes or so - watch 'em - and it turns to something like creme caremel. Onolicious!
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 12/18/2008 04:16:59 AM
Message:That's MILK, not MILE! My bad!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 12/18/2008 05:28:27 AM
Message:If you boil the can of condensed milk like Jack says, boil it for long enough, you get caramel candy. Not hard to do at all, simply time consuming. But way better than store bought candy.
And home-made nut brittle - oh man, the bestest. I've made it with cashews instead of peanuts. But down in W. Va., peanut brittle was a Christmas tradition. You had to use those red skin peanuts, but had to rub the skins off of them. I think it was the play between sweet and salty that made it so ono.
My ma used to make candy out of left over mashed potatoes. It was kinda fudgy with peanut butter and powdered sugar. She would also make candied orange peel. Never wasted anything back then. Matter of fact, I think I remember some kind of candy with potato peels.
I always liked chocolate covered cherries, too. That was a special treat at Christmas time. But now to me they taste sickeningly sweet.
I always loved Whitman's Sampler chocolates, too. It was great because it had a map on the box so you knew what candy was what without having to resort to mashing the bottom to see what was inside (my sister, Emma, always squished the candy).
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 12/19/2008 10:04:34 AM
Message:Left over mashed potatoes is a good start for lefse, a Norwegian potato tortilla you can use for sandwiches (great with primost, a brown sugary cheese made from whey), rulepulse (pressed spiced lamb roll) or anything else. Another way to eat it is with butter, sugar and cinnamon with strong coffee on the side.
Moderation in all things.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 12/21/2008 7:00:10 PM
Message:"My Louisiana girlfiend"
Jes wonderin- was dat one typo, Freudian slip, or intentional? I get one former girl"fiend" who now stay Louisiana side- mebbe das why I wen stay notice um...
Chris
Reply author: Hula Rider
Replied on: 12/26/2008 9:01:11 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
I always loved Whitman's Sampler chocolates, too. It was great because it had a map on the box so you knew what candy was what without having to resort to mashing the bottom to see what was inside (my sister, Emma, always squished the candy).
You know da designs on top da choklits? De da "lables" fo' tell what get eensi! I yusted to know 'em all, but I neva eat choklits long time now.
Laytaz,
Leilehua
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 12/27/2008 09:50:31 AM
Message:Me, I like da pure chocolate. BEEG chunks!
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 12/27/2008 8:25:58 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck
Me, I like da pure chocolate. BEEG chunks!
Dark chocholate, of course. I read somewhere that "milk chocolate" doesn't contain chocolate, just artificial chocolate flavor, sugar, wax and reconstituted milk. PLASTIC!!! I think it was Hershey's milk chocolate, but I'm not sure.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 12/28/2008 12:39:04 PM
Message:
quote:Real milk chocolate does contain cocoa solids, but to a lesser percentage than the dark stuff. If you like milk chocolate, get a specialty brand. The actual "chocolate" content of Hershey bars has been in question for years.
Originally posted by slipry1
[quote]I read somewhere that "milk chocolate" doesn't contain chocolate, just artificial chocolate flavor, sugar, wax and reconstituted milk. PLASTIC!!! I think it was Hershey's milk chocolate, but I'm not sure.
Now, "white" chocolate has no cocoa solids, so it is not technically "chocolate."
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 01/13/2009 08:02:33 AM
Message:Sumtin wuz rong. Dis chred waz on page too. Time fo put 'em bak on da firs page.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/13/2009 11:34:18 AM
Message:Eh, you rite Poi Dog. I tink coz GuavaSunrise wen change his name in da witless proteckshun program den he wen disappeah.
Preddy soon Braddah Menpachi be back in Iowa and mebbe he regale us wit storyz of danglin down da rocks for get da opihi and how many ulua he wen catch. An he bettah trow back da firs fish if he no wot good for him.
And mebbe he tell us dat he went clean his Mama yahd.
Braddah Glenn, come tell us stories.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/15/2009 11:34:14 AM
Message:I saw on Food Channel bout Liliha Bakery. Dey said peepo go crazy fo coco puffs. I tot was one syreoh fo breakfuss, aino like cause it a keiki syreoh an I stay grown up. But deese coco puffs dey get at Liliha Bakery, dey oni just look like ordiinary cream puffs, oni da liddo kine dey get at Italian weddings. Nottin spesho.
Are the coco puffs dey show from Liliha Bakery all dey are sposed to be dat folks get big boxes fo take home on da ayah plane? Dey said peepo stan in line waitin fo da coco puffs.
Who have firss hand nahledge?
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 01/15/2009 10:57:40 PM
Message:E no ack!. I getting hongray!
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 01/16/2009 08:03:25 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by sirduke58
Liliha Bakery Coco Puffs?....Definitely as good as advertised
What!!??? No squid??
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 01/16/2009 09:07:26 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by slipry1
What!!??? No squid??
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Squid counts, but den depens weda oa not it stay loco kine or japan kine. Anden weda oa not dry squid wid pa‘akai oa dry squid wid Morton's salt. Oa even if anden was dry squid oa squid luau. Me I would go foa da lomi ‘oio if get. But gotta get pia den guarans goin tast mo good.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 01/16/2009 12:14:12 PM
Message:MMmmmm, squid. As paht of my bento lunch from Uwajimaya today, had one slice of squid stuffed with mushrooms and rice. Winnahs!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/16/2009 2:45:12 PM
Message:For my lunch I had left over spaghetti. Then for supper, I had leftover spaghetti. Shoulda froze the leftover sauce.
I have made cream puffs before, but they take a ton of butter and eggs just to make the shells. Then the custard for puinsai, yikes. Then the frosting on top, az y hahd. Sure looks good though. Good enough so that my cardiologist make plenny kala fo hele onto O`ahu offa me and my insurance.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/16/2009 2:47:28 PM
Message:What is tantaran? Is it like show off?
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 01/16/2009 4:44:29 PM
Message:I get pickled herring insai da fridge, time foa bus'em out!
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 01/16/2009 9:50:58 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guitardedquote:Da whole time braddah Kory was in Hawaii, da buggah was craving pickled herring.
Originally posted by thumbstruck
I get pickled herring insai da fridge, time foa bus'em out!
Nah, he crave shave ice alla time! Is way too cold fo dat heah in Seattle, so da buggah switch to pickled herring!
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 01/17/2009 2:22:44 PM
Message:
quote:According to Keaka, Kory (during their recent time on O`ahu) proved that shave ice could be one of the major food groups.
Originally posted by slipry1
Nah, he crave shave ice alla time!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/17/2009 2:49:01 PM
Message:Is the famous pipi stew jalike the pipi stew we cook ovah heah or different? I put beef, onions, carrots, celery, mushrooms, parsley root, potatoes, beef stock, small can of tomatoes, wee bit of salt, pepper, basil, thyme, marjoram, fresh parsley. Sometimes put chunks of zucchini or some cabbage or brussels sprouts.
Do you flour the meat before browning or fry it naked and then use cornstarch for thicken the gravy?
Does the Hawaiian kine pipi stew get potatoes or do you serve wit 2 scoops rice.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 01/17/2009 3:01:58 PM
Message:Eh, Wanda! Right now I stay miking oxtail stew. I got some onolicious lean bacon, cut into bits, half foa brown wit da oxtails, da oddah half wit da onions and garlic. I wen' flour da oxtails, added peas, carrots, one beeg potato, one small can tomatoe sauce, one box beef broth, one cup merlot, bay leaf, S&P, an' goin' make ricotta dumplings foa cook on top (Heart-healthy BisQuick with ricotta mixed in. My French uncle's cousins from France took a suitcase of BisQuick back to France, "Ce practique le Bisquick!" (sp?)).
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 01/17/2009 3:04:01 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck
Eh, Wanda! Right now I stay making oxtail stew. I got some onolicious lean bacon, cut into bits, half foa brown wit da oxtails, da oddah half wit da onions and garlic. I wen' flour da oxtails, added peas, carrots, one beeg potato, one small can tomato sauce, one box beef broth, one cup merlot, bay leaf, S&P, an' goin' make ricotta dumplings foa cook on top (Heart-healthy BisQuick with ricotta mixed in. My French uncle's cousins from France took a suitcase of BisQuick back to France, "Ce practique le Bisquick!" (sp?)).
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 01/22/2009 09:03:43 AM
Message:Eh kory one lrg bowl oxtail like da one from mac bowl which is no longer,now down by kapalama close to youngs fish market is over 10 dollars,and das not wit da side order salad wit softdrink,shhh.Yeah betta make your own,and no foget da kikoman wit da mince garlic?You guys get perfect weather fo dat one.Duke make one good version himself.K-den
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 01/22/2009 10:46:50 AM
Message:Brah! You went spahk da price of ox tails in da stowa? Hoooo. Good ting my frien still work at da slaughtta house! Lucky I still can get ox tail and na`au wai u an sweetbreads...
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 01/22/2009 2:56:38 PM
Message:
quote:Eh braddah ed I no kid you,and dat price has been awhile.I tink das why I wen switch to da chop steak wit side order mac,portion is good too.Pigs feet das one good one,especially wit planny fat,hala I can just see wanda's face.
Originally posted by guitardedquote:Holy carp braddah Jay! Wat dey did, fly da ox in from China?
Originally posted by braddah jay
Eh kory one lrg bowl oxtail like da one from mac bowl which is no longer,now down by kapalama close to youngs fish market is over 10 dollars
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 01/22/2009 11:18:34 PM
Message:Braddah ed my wife jus gave me funny kine look,she no realize I jus laughing at your post.Anyway always good hearing from you,and since I da short guy I go low,and he go high.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 01/25/2009 08:22:09 AM
Message:Da oxtail stew was broke da mout'! Even had dumplings!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/26/2009 4:01:53 PM
Message:Today to celebrate the lunar new year, I made some pork meatballs braised in broth with bok choy and mushroons; sticky rice and orange sections. Ono.
I would like to know if someone can educate me on what is "katchi-katchi" music? I have seen references to that but I do not know what they are refering to. I thought a katchi tune was one that got stuck in your brain and you kept thinking about it replaying it in your head all day.
Tanks, eh.
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 01/26/2009 4:47:30 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
I would like to know if someone can educate me on what is "katchi-katchi" music? I have seen references to that but I do not know what they are refering to. I thought a katchi tune was one that got stuck in your brain and you kept thinking about it replaying it in your head all day.
Tanks, eh.
Borinki music...(BTW, borinki I got from a true blue Puerto Rican from San Juan...played volleyball in the states...) that's how he spelled it. So no bus me up!
Katchi-katchi = borinki (boo-dinky) music. I not goin' say anyting mo! I remembah Ayalas on School Street!
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 01/26/2009 5:08:32 PM
Message:If you like dance, play and have won good time go try kachi-kachi music. Kachi-kachi music is Puerto Rican dance music oa Hawaiian music wid won bad attitude but you can dance and da kumu hula not goin trow spears at you. Den again she might chuck won at you anyway fo fun.
Da term kachi-kachi comes Japanese and means dry or scratchy. As how da kepanee wen discribe da Puerto Rican dance music from da plantation daze in 1900 wen da firs Puerto Ricans came ova I tink waz on da Mayflowa. Dat waz da firs and biggest migration of dem, had couple small kine afta. Sometimes we callem boudinki music coz das what da old time Puerto Ricans wen call dem selves.
Dey came ova hea like everybody else fo work da plantation coz had won mean hurricane in 1900 wen wipe out da island, so no mo house no mo work ova dea. So dey came ova hea won time. Da olden daze, you know plantation time, sometimes afta you hanahana (work) all day still get energy fo play music and dance lidat. Alla da pepo wen had dat in da olden daze. Already long time in Hawai had da Spanish music but waz kinda slow, had waltzes lidat anda folk music yeah.
But wen da boudinkis came, hello, it became wonnada ball game, dey added juice coz you know dey like scoa anden n jez hav won good time. Instead a counting foa or tree fo dance. Dey count eight won measure wid emphasis on 1,5 and 7 so waz kinda difrent yeah how you had to move yo feet. Waz like dey when learn how fo boogie befoa had boogie, but dey callem seis, danza, merengue, guaracha, cucaracha and cockaroach. Da buggas could play and dance wid da bes of dem guyz, dey make plany noise dance real fas anden dance real slow kine wen dey trying fo make out. Its da bes kachi-kachi, but you know jes like da shadow at nite time alla da buggas wen disapea. Hahd fo fine Boudinqueros nowdays. Jez like da Spanish guyz in da old daze dey jez wen disapea.
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 01/26/2009 7:18:33 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guitarded
Musta had planny bodinkis wen land in Makawao.
Hehe...is funny 'cuz da (well, some but not ALL) pochos, claim to be espaniols. Da borinkis claim to be pochos, except barrabas. Da espaniols make shua nobody call 'em pochos. "Excuse me, I am esPanish, not Portugueeezeee." Tanks to my granfaddah (my muddah's faddah), I still can claim fame as being paht pocho.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 01/26/2009 10:09:15 PM
Message:Eh da buggah where ayala's use to be serve close to da real deal mexican food,with live music spanish guitar.Can bring your own beer too.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/27/2009 01:33:39 AM
Message:Tanks, eh, fo edumakatin me about kachi-kachi. Very nice. But Uncle Willie one kanaka, yeah?
Now go ova hea and liseen to Mike and his `ohana. Is this music kachi-kachi? All I know is dem guys can play mean kine `ukulele! And Mike one recovering heart patient like me, but now he get planny heart!
http://www.youtube.com/user/ballles1000
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/27/2009 01:43:44 AM
Message:Braddah Ed - you all time seem like you hongry. Wassmatta U? U no can cook? Mrs. Guitarded no feed you o wot? If I can figgah how fo cook dakine in Cleveland, you can cook em in da dessert boonies of Washington. Ooops, not dessert....I mean desert. Don't make you want go mo hongry lookin fo buttah mochi owah sumtin.
Today I am making very bad food -- I am going make breakfass fo dinnah. Gonna make biscuits, sausage gravy and creamy eggs -- boiled eggs sliced into white sauce and den put ontop da discuits. Sound like bad heart kine food? Is very bad, but I get one taste for em and I gonna make den I be pau fo da buggah foah one noddah year or so. Az y all my W. Va. family guyz get diabeetee owah heart trouble. But I make it ok if I make fried apples wit it.
I even could cook real breakfass because now Paul nomo haff get up at 2 o-clock for go hana. Dey wen put him back in da body shop fo staht work at 7 am o clock, so I could get up and cook him breakfass befo he go hana. I could. Owah maybe I could juss pull da covahs up and roll ovah go back to sleep. Me and `Oni`Oni.
Speaking of `Oni`Oni, I see Frank Hewett get one oli called Pu`u `Oni`Oni. Anyone know wea dat stay? I need take pichas fo my scrapbook.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/28/2009 02:30:15 AM
Message:Well, I made da sausage gravy and creamy eggs for dinnah last night. But nomo biscuits. I decided fo make homemade bread. Bread was good. Sausage & Gravy not a good thing for my na`au. Not going make dat nomo. I cannot seem to eat greasy stuff nomo. I get nomo gallbladdah. Plop-plop fizz fizz.
Today I going make baked skinless boneless chicken breasts. Redemption. or Pennanance.
Getting 8 inches snow. Paul just called he got to work OK but he said the roads were bad, bad, bad. Now instead putting salt on da roads foah melt da snow, dey put salt waddah, beet juice and calcium chloride. What da heck? Why you spray icy roads with liquid fo get moah icy? Maybe dese da same guys what sent mongoose to Hawai`i.
Is it true da wild kangaroos on O`ahu? We had one tour guide one time say da kangaroos was deah when one circus came visit da islands. Den when time put da crittaz back on da ship fo go away, da kangaroos wen escape coz dey like da `aina. And da guide say dey multiply (i.e., baby kangaroos, not 2 x 2 = 4) so now can hunt kangaroos on O`ahu.
Or was he mek A from da tourists?
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 01/28/2009 07:50:32 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guitardedquote:Nomo kangaroos, but get wallabies way in da back of Kalihi Valley.
Originally posted by wcerto
Is it true da wild kangaroos on O`ahu?
I remembah back in da sixties, me an my bud Wayne Kahula from Hana (Bless his soul...Amen!) was hunting fo ouwa odda friend's lost hunting dog. We was about 1 mile makai of Wilson Tunnels. Anyways, from outa nowhea, one small buggah wallaby wen run in front us an wen turn to us and hisssssss like won cage-up mongoose. Dat big grass hoppa/small kangaroo wen scare da crapppola out of us. BTW, we did find da dog, I still remembah his name, was Keola (probably 'cuz I was yelling out dat name all day). Hmmm, I wonda how wallaby lau-lau taste?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/28/2009 08:02:21 AM
Message:Iz real true? No mek A outa me.
what they eat?
PS: I forgot to say that Jay does not look like any the Puerto Ricans what live in Cleveland, and Cleveland get choke Puerto Ricans. And they tell me language PPuerto Rican kine Spanish is different than Mexican kine Spanish.
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 01/28/2009 08:18:07 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
Iz real true? No mek A outa me.
what they eat?
Iz chru. Dea diet is lost hunting dogs...Sorry I no kud rezis!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/28/2009 12:32:21 PM
Message:Well, Braddah Ed, I wen look but you so kolohe ahdunno if I can truss you o wot. You wen send dat Barry Kimokeo fut video to Duke. I KNOW that sweet Barry would nevah dedicate one fut to Auntie Wanda. So I figured you did some kine juju fo make it ack like Barry was sayin dat. Az y hahd.
PS - I wash my face and den. No stuff in my maka cept lens implants.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/28/2009 12:39:09 PM
Message:
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Iz chru. Dea diet is lost hunting dogs...Sorry I no kud rezis!
[/quote]
Nah, nah. Dea diet was prolly watachu guyz stay leave behin in yowah bebedees when he go skeah you.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/28/2009 1:17:41 PM
Message:OK, I pau cookin dinnah.
Wotchu mean pineapple swipe. I still get da buggah raicheer on my computah. Da evidenz no lie.
My popoki just wen turn into a pointah kine hunting kitty. She pointed da deer in da front yahd chria fo get my bid seed from da bird feedah. Lass nite popoki wen wake me up 4 am ina night time and make me go look out window whea she was pointing someting and clickiing her kitty teef an making funny kine sqeek noises. I tot was maybe one ground hog wake up from moemoe but no, was one deer laying down in my front yahd guarding the pole da bird feedah on. She was dea cos get on roof ovahang so was no snow ovah deah. She just came back and dis time her and kitty was almos touching noses at da picha window. Da deer was looking insai at kitty and kitty was lookin at her outsai. I wanted fo feed her but ahdunno how for do it. She done went away awready but Paul tinks if I giver her food and wait for her to come back, maybe one raccoon or sometin going eat it. Ahdunno even what fo feed da deer. Dey eat forbs, but get none with 2 feets of snow out deah. Ha-ha. Dey eat forbs and da road next street ovah is Forbes Rd. How funny is dat.
OK. I going go back to da pineapple swipe.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 01/29/2009 5:12:25 PM
Message:Ah, yes, da pineapple swipes. Long time since I wen tase'em. Eh, Wanda, I tot wea you was from, watchu wen spock would be meat in da freeza or smokehouse by now! I get cousins in Maine who survive da wintah wit da "Governor's beef"!
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 01/29/2009 5:19:09 PM
Message:Got deer & pheasants in the freezer. Wanda won't eat deer, but I think she might eat some pheasant. Tastes like chicken, any how.
Paul
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/30/2009 12:26:53 AM
Message:I used to eat venison and plenty other critters in small kid time. Now I no can. I just think of the cute baby deers looking so curious at me and all schmooffy. How could you even want to shoot and kill them and eat them after you watch them being so cute? I would taste pheasant but nevah no pigeons lika Peurto Ricans ova heah like fo kaukau.
I do not even like Paul to cook his deer meat in my regular pans. He contaminate them with mad mojo, he pollutes my pans. Az y hahd.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/30/2009 12:28:32 AM
Message:For thse of you who no speak dakine hillbilly - - schmoofy means cute and fluffy and adorable. Kinda like Paul.
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 01/30/2009 07:02:04 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guitarded
Those cute schmoofy baby deers grow up.
Das wat you get when you put female deea pee-pee all ovah and out from nowhea come one big daddy deea who like make whoopie. Notice how auntie kep da camera rolling...I ste rolling an tinking. "Uncle is gonna slap yo head if he live chru dis..."
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/30/2009 08:23:08 AM
Message:I couldn't believe someone takes a movie and da guy getting nock ina head by da deea. I hope you son no get nock in da head when he go by Kawika Sakugawa and get dem liddo deea.
Now, I would be sked dem wile pua`a. We saw some skull bones layin by da road when we went road to Hana. I get picha. Tusks still attached. I wanted to get fo make Paul one necklace wit da tusks, but. I asked Uncle Dennis Kamakahi wea can get, coz he weyah one lidat, he say gotta get da pua`a youseff and makem. Az y hahd.
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 01/30/2009 5:43:01 PM
Message:Most of what I got was made into sausage or burger. I started making breakfast sausage some years ago, then Italian sausage, now the guys I hunt with grind up most of what we shoot every year. Hard to get 'em to save a few steaks, even. I made bratwurst once, too. That was good, too.
Paul
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/31/2009 02:39:01 AM
Message:Would they lest us bring something lidat? I mean ahdunno how it would survive a 12-hour day getting to Hawai`i, but if could figure a way.....
One time we were bringing locally made 100% pure genuiine maple syrup for Bla & Kathleen. Maple syrup is VERY expensive. I put it in my carry on so it would not get broken. Guess what? I forgot about the 3 oz. liquids rule of TSA. They took my maple syrup. Paul told the TSA guy to just take it home when they told us we could get out of line and mail it back home to ourselves. He said they could not take anything. It all went in the trash. So that is where Bla & Kathleen's maple syrup ended up. $$$$ down the drain. Next time, we did not bring them food.
But yeah, if there is any kinda stuff over here you like us bring, we can. By then local sweet corn would be at its perfect peak. And I know for a fact that Bobby Ingano LOVES Ohio sweet corn. He has `ohana over by Dayton, OH and lord knows ain't much over there but Wright-Patterson AFB and corn fields. Good thing we brought Jay-Boy a LeBron James shirt, who knows how long he will be here,
We could bring a big basket of Italian goodies, if could get past TSA.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/01/2009 01:18:50 AM
Message:Should I feed the lady deer who has been entertaining our kitty so much? She has been here every night and dhas left a nice present on the sidewalk at the bottom of the porch steps. She must don't know where is da lua.
Deer have over-populated our area. Choke deer. But this one is alone. Girl deer usually travel with other girl deers. She is probably hapai, so I am really feeding two deer, most likely. If I feed her until all this snow melts - probably toward the end of March, then if I stop, will she be able to go it on her own, or would I be doing more harm than good? I nevah like the life of a poor critter to be on my conscience. One time I ran over a skunk in my car. That conscience bothered me for about a week. Pee-you. Poo-tank-ee!
Anyhow, I am thinking she is roaming our neighborhood looking for kaukau. Tis a dilemma for me because I love the critters.
Where is kanaka uka Omaopio Kawika Sakugawa when I need him?
Kanaka Uka Omaopio by Pekelo Cosma
there's a place on the island of Maui
on the slopes of Haleakala
wea my haole gal and I live in a hale
next to Kawika kou inoa.
you see this place it is filled w/kiawe
and the pipi he roams underneath
and when the sun goes down, Kawika makes his rounds, to feed all the animals a calling.
hui
Kawika,Kawika uka, come and feed us now
Kawika,Kawika uka, you're the only one that knows how Kawika,Kawika uta, the man with all the skill Kawika,Kawika Sakugawa, Kanaka Uka Omaopio.
in the morning when all is awaken
by this rooster he crows all night long
the goose and the doggies are a barking
singing the Omaopio love song.
when the sun goes down in the evening
and the animals they wait patiently
you see Kawika has this love, sent from up above to feed all the animals a calling.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/01/2009 3:53:48 PM
Message:Eh, Wanda! At least da skunk wen get revenge! Even mo worse dan talk stink!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/03/2009 9:01:05 PM
Message:One thing I do not understand are some of the addresses. I do not know if they are like this on other islands, but O`hau, they get addresses like this: 12-3456 Nani St. What does that configuration mean? Over here the street numbering starts at a central location and the farther away from this location, the higher the number goes. Like my address is 179 and the next neighbor is 181 etc. One side of the street has odd number addresses and the other side has even number addresses. In Cleveland, the higher the number, the farther away from the "Public Square" center of the city for streets running east and west; For streets running north-south, the numberinig begins at Lake Erie on the north and increase the farther away from the lake. By the numbering convenetions you can tell if it is a east-west street or a north-sotuh street because one goes to 5 digit numbers and one only has 4 digit numbers. But on O`ahu, what do the dash numbers connotate? They must be confusing because when I watch Dog the Bounty Hunter, they seem to have great difficulty finding a specific house, maybe can find the street, but then they go where they think they are supposed to go and maybe 3 or 4 houses on the same piece of property. It confuses my too simple brain.
Az y hahd.
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 02/03/2009 11:00:02 PM
Message:Braddah ed,you crack me up,das why always a joy to hear you chrow your 2 cents in.Da man of vasknaledge,hehehe figgah dat one out,not you braddah ed,not fair.Discernment to know what you can handle,and what you can't,leave it to da man up above,if he dunno braddah ed does.
Reply author: sm80808
Replied on: 02/03/2009 11:23:36 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
But on O`ahu, what do the dash numbers connotate?
Aunty, I tink doze funky addresses are outside Honolulu.... Hea in town dey stay pretty much normal. At least that is how it is here in Palolo. I dunno though.... maybe i don't get out much :P
One ting cool... you eva go Kapahulu side. Going Diamond Head on Winam or Campbell Ave. they get da alphabetized street names. (Brokaw, Catherine, Duval, Esther, Fracis, George, Hayden) Maybe I am easily amused but I always though that was cool.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3400+winam+ave+96816&sll=21.277198,-157.810364&sspn=0.007748,0.013905&g=3300+winam+ave+96816&ie=UTF8&ll=21.275218,-157.810653&spn=0.007748,0.013905&z=17
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 02/04/2009 07:49:35 AM
Message:Wanda, my advice --- don't try to travel in Japan. For further explanation, I will let Momi handle.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/04/2009 08:04:56 AM
Message:PS: My panties oni get da pukas dey s'post to have. Oni men wear bebedees and socks wit pukas. And pants and shorts and t shirts also too.
Girls don't do that.
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 02/04/2009 6:04:35 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
One thing I do not understand are some of the addresses. I do not know if they are like this on other islands, but O`hau, they get addresses like this: 12-3456 Nani St. What does that configuration mean? Over here the street numbering starts at a central location and the farther away from this location, the higher the number goes. Like my address is 179 and the next neighbor is 181 etc. One side of the street has odd number addresses and the other side has even number addresses. In Cleveland, the higher the number, the farther away from the "Public Square" center of the city for streets running east and west; For streets running north-south, the numberinig begins at Lake Erie on the north and increase the farther away from the lake. By the numbering convenetions you can tell if it is a east-west street or a north-sotuh street because one goes to 5 digit numbers and one only has 4 digit numbers. But on O`ahu, what do the dash numbers connotate? They must be confusing because when I watch Dog the Bounty Hunter, they seem to have great difficulty finding a specific house, maybe can find the street, but then they go where they think they are supposed to go and maybe 3 or 4 houses on the same piece of property. It confuses my too simple brain.
Az y hahd.
The company on O`ahu for whom I used to work explained it as follows. My disclaimer is that it was in 1970 and some of the details have been long lost. Expeshally, since I do not live on said moku any mowa...
OK. I goin' staht. By da time you pau read dis, you goin be mo dizzy den da clock ste goin' backwards (or counterclockwise, as I will explain further)...
Numbah 1. Firs ting, tink of Nu'uanu Avenue as the de-maka-fa-keshin line, which it iz. Nu`uanu goes makai to mauka....If you ste upsidedown flipped ovah, den you gotta tink mauka to makai, but I tink makai to mauka mo E-Z. Numbering east (Koko Head) of Nu`uanu begins at 1 and ascends...(I am so proud of dat word). Numbering west of Nu`uanu also starts with 1 and ascends towards the west (Ewa) direction. Headed east (Koko Head), starting with Nu`uanu Avenue is also where the streets are preceeded by South. On the West (ewa) side of Nu`uanu are the Norths...OK so fah? No so fa`a, but so far, as Brundage would say. Da 2nd paht of dis firs paht is: 1 stahts at the kai an goes up from dea to the mauka. OK? Low numbahs on the ocean, and den ascends (ahhhhh, I tink I goin use dat word plenty). Suppose to be odd on da Ewa side of the ka`ala and even on da Koko Head side (ohhhh.....mebbe I get dat bass-ackwards
Numbah 2. Everyting is chrown out outside of the Honolulu District. Honolulu District is bounded by Ko`olau ridge line on da mauka, and ocean on da makai (duuuuuuh!). To da west da boundary is da kahawai nexto Aloha Stadium. My days, nevah had Aloha Stadium, so we wen call 'em da Pearl City Groin (no ax me why was one groin), and da stream wen from da mountain to the ocean (hoooo...even waaaay back den, da riwas wen flow from da mountains to da oceans...) Plus, Moses nevah even had to do noting...Jes li'dat! Da uddah side of da Honolulu District (da east boundary) is da Makapu`u Point an run one imaginary line to the ridgeline of the Ko`olau Mountains. Da 2nd paht of dis paht. Da sequential numbering that started heading west (Ewa) from Nu`uanu ends at the riwa bed by Aloha Stadium. Da sequential numbering headed east (Koko Head) from Nu`uanu, ends at Makapu`u Point.
Numbah 3. Peecha O`ahu...all by herself. Go counterclockwise. (No ax me why dey wen do 'em counterclockwise and not da way da clock go, which as fah as I no, is clockwise
Numbah 4.From Waimanalo, which staht at 40-dash-three-digit ascending to the next community; Kailua is 42-dash-three-digit ascending... Kaneone is 44 to 46-dash-three-digit ascending. Likewise all around da island. Dis goes on an on around O`ahu, until it gets back to da riwa nexto Aloha Stadium...Pearl City, is 99-dash-three-digit ascending, until it ends at the boundary and the numbahs is 99-999.
I know Wahiawa an Mililani is somewhea in da 92 to 95-dash-three-digit ascending. Waianae, I tink is 84-dash-three-digit ascending an den works its way to da Kapolei or Ewa plain. Den it join-up someplace by Waipahu an finally meet up wit Pearl City, whea da cycle en...at da en along da riwa. Pau. Whew! Piula! See how EZ? Nobody can get lost if you follow me...
I disclaim anyting I wen write if was wrong...
I donno why I wen tink of dis. I miss my muddah yelling at 3 clock in da morning..."Dammit...You boys! Put da damn seat down."
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 02/04/2009 7:29:12 PM
Message:PoiDog, dat was brilliant, braddah. I could feel laughter ascending from my consciousness.
Re addresses in Japan: I can only speak to addresses in Kyoto and Tokyo.
In Kyoto, the address describes the location from larger land divisions to smaller. The address of the Kyoto Dai-Ni Tower Hotel, f'rinstance, was Kyoto-shi (Kyoto City) Shimogyo-ku (Lower Kyoto Ward), Higashi-Too-in (East Too-in Street), Nanajo sagaru (below Seventh Avenue). There's no "house" number (but there is a postal code).
In Tokyo, addresses can be so obtuse that strangers have to ask the local police office where such-and-such an address is. F'rexample, the address of the Hotel Grand City was Toshima-ku (Toshima Ward), Higashi Ikebukuro (East Ikebukuro, a district in Tokyo) 1-30-7. The last three numbers are descriptive, but are not an address number that we'd recognize. The numbers refer to ever-smaller district/block/lot numbers. The only time we ever saw an explicit map of lot numbers was outside of the subway station in Ebisu, another Tokyo district, trying to find a raamen shop (that didn't exist any more). We finally found that out because we asked a local.
Please don't ask me to translate the above into pidgin. It was bad enough just translating it into English.
In an attempt to stay topical (to the extent this thread is topical), here's a picture of extremely cute guitars we saw on our Japan trip:
Notice the Hello Kitty one upper right.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/05/2009 12:19:00 AM
Message:I think Mark would like the Hello Kitty model.
I applaud da Poi Dog for his most excellent and enlightening lesson in counter-island addressing conventions. It actually makes sense now.
I love this taro patch. Can learn anykine.
Ed- bettah stop flirtin wit Momi. Else you musta did sometin bad and chrai fo make up for it. You must got one nodda giri-giri.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/05/2009 02:51:54 AM
Message:I think I shall never forget when we went to W. Va. to visit my oldest sister. Her instructions on how to get to their new abode was to go over 6 little bridges over the creeks, bear left at the fork in the road and then turn left at the road where the old commode is laying in the creek. Oh, she also said turn left where there is a big white house. Well, the house may have been white at one time, but when we went, the paint was mostly all faded away. Looked gray to me.
And then, another W. Va. kine direction is to go up or down. Go up Millers Fork and then go down Crockett fork. Makes Paul crazy. Is down supposed to be left or right. Is up left or right. Better they should use makai and mauka or ewa and diamond head. At least that way it is all relative - no matter where you are on the island can see the mountains and know which way makai. In W. Va. either get one mountain on one side or fall down the cliff on the other side into the creek.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 02/05/2009 06:28:30 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guitarded
Momi-san kawaii desu ne.
I might be if I actually looked like dat.
Yeah, Braddah Ed, watchu did dis time dat you tryin' fo' get on my good side now? (Hmmm, mebbe I don't wanna know.)
Aunty Rochelle of the NW HI Times tells the story of directions being given to Frank DeLima go to go a school in Hilo. "Turn by Taniguchi Store" the locals told him. Well, Taniguchi Store has been KTA for long time, so he was back in da lava fields before he realized he was lost.
I think I've said this before, but Retro teases my family about using landmarks in Kane`ohe that are long gone. "Go past where the taxi stand used to be, turn left where Dodie's used to be, then go past the old District Park." Aisus.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/05/2009 08:13:29 AM
Message:I read about dat drive-in obake in one of those Glen Grant books. Somebody said he wen make. If he did I wondah if he flits around in da dahk.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/05/2009 08:20:30 AM
Message:I forgot to say - I wondah y da obake, like da chocking ghost or the sitting on you chest ghost -- why they mean to someone who neva hurt them? Dey should be aftah da ones what did da pilikea if dat da case. I can undastan about da night marchers, dey ali`i so you bettah show respeck. An why Pele need fo catch a ka`a ride wit someone? She can go whea she wan fo go. And I wondah why sometimes she like be beautiful lady and sometimes like be ugly ol lady like me or sometimes no even have a face. And why the obake get no wawae, jess float....? Hmmmm?
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 02/05/2009 08:26:56 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
I forgot to say - I wondah y da obake, like da choking ghost or the sitting on you chest ghost -- why they mean to someone who neva hurt them? Dey should be aftah da ones what did da pilikea if dat da case. . . . And why the obake get no wawae, jess float....? Hmmmm?
Well, we only know the story of the living person whom the obake are tormenting; we don't know the story of why the obake is doing what it's doing. Maybe the person did something to anger the obake. Some obake are tied to specific places. Some are tied to specific people.
I've read that Japanese ghosts don't have feet just because artists depicted them that way, not because of any basis in "fact."
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 02/05/2009 08:28:59 AM
Message:Dis I wen witness wit my own maka. As fah as I no, it iz close to 100% tru. Da alive ones wen kill mo peepo den da ded ones. Iz chru. No sked da ded.
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 02/05/2009 10:47:18 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Momi
PoiDog, dat was brilliant, braddah. I could feel laughter ascending from my consciousness.
Re addresses in Japan: I can only speak to addresses in Kyoto and Tokyo.
In Kyoto, the address describes the location from larger land divisions to smaller. The address of the Kyoto Dai-Ni Tower Hotel, f'rinstance, was Kyoto-shi (Kyoto City) Shimogyo-ku (Lower Kyoto Ward), Higashi-Too-in (East Too-in Street), Nanajo sagaru (below Seventh Avenue). There's no "house" number (but there is a postal code).
In Tokyo, addresses can be so obtuse that strangers have to ask the local police office where such-and-such an address is. F'rexample, the address of the Hotel Grand City was Toshima-ku (Toshima Ward), Higashi Ikebukuro (East Ikebukuro, a district in Tokyo) 1-30-7. The last three numbers are descriptive, but are not an address number that we'd recognize. The numbers refer to ever-smaller district/block/lot numbers. The only time we ever saw an explicit map of lot numbers was outside of the subway station in Ebisu, another Tokyo district, trying to find a raamen shop (that didn't exist any more). We finally found that out because we asked a local.
Y tank you!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/05/2009 11:18:37 AM
Message:Oh, Ed, you are really stahtin pilikia. Oh my.... I neva like see Momi give whoopin to Retro. That must be why you was so sweet to Momi earlier....just waitin...just waitin till you can pounce, jess like a spaidah.
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 02/05/2009 11:43:15 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guitarded
Yeah brah, real easy fo get lost in da geisha houses ovah deya. Dass what Retro told me anyways.
I watch Soko Ga Shiritai on Channel 10 (KIKU) almos every nite. I like visit some mountain hot springs...fo real. Look some calming...I ste watching re-runs of re-runs. Same like Hawaii 5-0, and dey ste on da same time. Which evah one I seen befo, I goin change da channo to da uddah one. Sometimes dat no work awreddy...I tink I seen 'em about chree-fo mebbe fi times.
No need geishas...Unless I like get cracks from Mama!
You herd about da lady in da plane almos wen down. Seattle to Honolulu flight.
When da engines went konk-out, da lady wen lose 'um.
Screaming, she wen jump up in da front of the plane. "I'm too young to die," she wen scream out loud. Den, she wen yell, "If I'm going to die, I want my last moments on earth to be memorable! Is there anyone on this plane who can make me feel like a WOMAN before I die?"
Da plane was sooooome quiet. Everyone wen foghett deya own peril. De all wen stare, makas riveted, at the desperate woman in the front of the plane.
In da back, one kanaka named Kimo wen stand up in the back of the plane. He iz one hunk: tall, beeg muscles, with long, black hair in one maku`u and deep dahk makas. He walk slo up da aisle of da plane, hemo-ing da buttons on da Sig Zane aloha shirt.
One button at one time........
Nobody move..................
E'rebody ste looking at Bruddah Kimo........
Kimo hemo da Sig Zane shirt...............
His ches muscles pump out like one balloon-fish..........
Da wahine from da front of da plane, she ste breething heavy....................
Kimo ste holding da Sig Zane shirt all crumple-up in his big kanaka hands.....
He whispa, "You like feel like won woman, eh?"...............
She geev Kimo da look. Da eye lashes ste goin up an down........
"Hurry up," Bruddah Kimo says..............
Den da engines wen come back on Kimo wen back to his seat and da lady wen ste all fruscharated.
You know dat bring up one million-dolla question. How you kick-staht one airplane?
OK...Peetah...By da tone (an I hope I ste wrong) I wen wad you up. But 'jes in case, I wen fix 'um 'jes fo you. Was won joke my friens Attorney wife wen sen me, anyhow. What was dat about attitude?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 02/05/2009 11:59:27 AM
Message:We ge won winna ova hea wid da mokulele. Kden Poi Dog waz won reel screem. Take won bow, lift yo leg oa squat, whateva. In da tru tradition of da Kamehameha Warriors you still get won attitude da Princess would be proud of.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 02/05/2009 12:31:01 PM
Message:Soko ga Shiritai - one of da many tings I miss from home. Dat an good kine shave ice, shohts and slippah weddah, and my maddah's cooking. An Deelite Bakery custard pie. An taro duck from Pahke's.
Braddah Ed - "omoshiroi" can mean strange interesting (you) as well as interesting interesting (Retro).I guess both can apply to Soko ga.
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 02/05/2009 12:43:10 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Medeiros
We ge won winna ova hea wid da mokulele. Kden Poi Dog waz won reel screem. Take won bow, lift yo leg oa squat, whateva. In da tru tradition of da Kamehameha Warriors you still get won attitude da Princess would be proud of.
Look up...
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 02/05/2009 12:49:36 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guitarded
[quote]Brah, all you gotta do is tell Kimo wit da Sig Zane shirt dat he get one hukipau Sanitation Engineeyah job waiting fo heem at da C&C yahd anden quick da buggah going outsai push da ayaplane mo fast fo kick staht da buggah. Erebody knows dat da perks at Christmas time wit da tousands of cases of beeyah is unreal.
Someting la dat anyways.
Das why dey make da one-man trucks, now. Dey make-um hard fo da drivah hop out-an-in, out-an-in, out-an-in. Plus...now peepos steel da Heinekins. Da olden days, my bruddah-out-law bring home easy 100 cases soda and (mostly) beeah fo da holidays.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 02/11/2009 06:18:43 AM
Message:Eh, brah, glad you ste back! (On da 'patch dat is - I not glad you back in Frozenland.) Tanks fo teenkin' ov me, but I jes glad you wen get to grind opihis - no save 'em fo me. By da time dey get up heah, not as ono.
About middo ov las mont I wuz wonderin' wea you wuz. Now I know.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 02/11/2009 08:12:40 AM
Message:Glenn - good to read your voice again. Iowa is only a temporary experience for you; you'll move on from there when the time is right. Until then, try to enjoy the beauty you can find there.
It's certainly not a "destination" most folks would choose, but since you are there, recognize the joys unique to that location - an incredible range of seasons that many of your Hawai`i Island friends will never know, the beauty of the Mississippi River, the rolling hillsides, the gorgeous color-changing farmlands, the opportunity to find quiet stretches of backroads with nothing to disrupt you but a wide-open sky, a lingering sunset and the beautiful call of the red-winged blackbird.
It's not home - but anywhere you go will have charms if you allow them to be seen.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/11/2009 1:21:13 PM
Message:One time I had to go to Rock Island, IL for my work. They get one Army arsenal ova dea. I was so excited to see the Mississippi River for the first time, but auwe, was liddo. Was not da raging big river I thought was. Well maybe it was bigger dan I thought cause Rock Island is one Island in da middo of the river., but. I think that is close to whea Braddah Glenn stay. They get plenny rain and floods ova dea also too.
It has got to be so hard to save up all da vacation time fo go one trip home. Den come back to da yucky weddah. And the grayness. Gray, gray, gray., Need sunlight. Az y hahd.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/11/2009 3:53:29 PM
Message:As one native of da PNW, aka "The Upper Left-hand Corner of the Map", I grew up with clouds and grew skies. I don't mind'em, 'cause wen get blue sky, even nicer!
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/11/2009 4:05:15 PM
Message:Eh, wen we goin get one noddah story from "Anthropachi" or "Ethnopachi? Glenn, it's winter, brah! Need good reading material!
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 02/25/2009 5:22:05 PM
Message:Kay den, some plenny time I nevah make um to da lo'i. Den wen take me coupla tree day foa catch up. Plenny time I like trow in da two cent, bu no can cause no moa sense wen da buggah stay plenny pages latah.
I like hea da menpachiman story, cause da beeg island da one! Jus hope does no was frens of mine dat wen make. Get plenny too many lolo fishahman fren, stay tired fo hea dey wen make ahready. My daughtah wen call dis morning, tell me one fren I know from da day da buggah born wen make- lolo head wen take too many pill. Donno was wrong wi dat generation- befoa time lil bit fragrant smoke was nuff for keep da braddahs happi, an dat kine nevah hurt no body. Nowdaze all da dumasses like take any kine chemicals, den dey hit da ones dey love, steal from da ohana, an make lef an rite. Stupid. An not onli waz da kane raised wid my daughtah, but he wen make on da anavesery of da day my daughtahs boyfren, faddah of my granson, wen make from da same stupid shit.
Anyway, make me laff wen I hea buggahs stay talk bout how da yellow opihi hard fo get. On our aina we get so many, we nevah use knife lidat- if no can whackum wid da hand, den jus get da next one. Oa scare um offa da rock wid one snail- eveah try dat one? Some funny dat! One DLNR biologist stay tell me he wen count moa opihi on one pohaku on our aina den he wen count on da entire moku o Oahu...
Heas da secret. We get fishing rights from Kalakaua on oua ahupua'a. So we no moa shame fo tell da bruddahs we get rules. And da kapu is, no take da ophi nui! Das da one make all da keiki. Small kine all right, moa tendah does ones. An da quatah size ones, das O.K. too. But you take da half dollah size one, we nevah like you come back, cause you wen stole from da fuchah. Das da one goine repopulate da moku. Dose opihi, dey spread out from our ahupua'a- da furdah you go, da less opihi. O'ahu fah from Kohala side- das why no moa ovah dere. Cause da greedy buggahs already wen steal yoa fuchah on O'ahu, den dey wen sell yoa fuchah fo coupla beahs.
And das da oddah rule- onli home use. We no goine let you take oua opihi anden sell um. Das stealing. None of dose opihi is yoas, so how come you tink you can sell dem? How bout da next opihi pickah who like some foa da ohana? But you wen take um all? Greedy, dat. Is wrong.
So you get one big luau stay coming, need plenny- das all right, we get plenny cause we get da kapu. But mo bettah you invite us to da luau, cause if no moa luau den mo bettah you nevah come back.
Get so many opihi one time dese O'ahu boys, dey like come steal fo sell on O'ahu. Too greedy, dough- wen dey like fly out da opihi, dey wen try take too many bag and dat helicopter wen crash on da mountain. Lef some bag behine, too- 100 poun bags of opihi rotting on da pohaku. Was one big opihi roast on da mountain- pua'a loa too. Dat pilot was one good guy- one of the Sproats- but wen he wen back foa save da O'ahu boys da helicopter wen explode an he wen make. Mebbe you wen hea dis befoa, in da Advertiser, cept dey wen leave out da part bout stealing opihi and greed.
So deres one wintah story- I get moa fo say but kinda depressing kine. Tinking bout it, dis waz kinda depressing kine too, but stay light in comparison. So I goine leave um at dat.
Chris
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 02/25/2009 5:43:03 PM
Message:Eh Chris ... Good to see u ste pos' again brah ! Wot u ste tell is juss too tru no? Dey say da shahk is not da danjah in Hawaii. Da opihi is da mos danja animol. Moah guyz wen die from opihi den da mano.
Yea ... I ste rite someteeng offline fo Kory anthropachi storeh too ... bud neva finish yet.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/26/2009 01:59:39 AM
Message:Eh, Chris - welcome back. We missed you.
Az y da kapu works. I get one frien live Big Island, too. He one famous son of one famous slack key Grammy winnah. He has same kine kapu for huntin anykine, feeshin anykine. Gotta malama dakine...so dea is one fyucha. Even hula kine pua for haku lei -- ask permission for take and no take too many from one plant oa tree. Give mahalo. Some peepo call it conservashun. Me, I call em respeck.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/26/2009 05:17:14 AM
Message:Some people don't believe that a tomorrow will come, that's why they don't invest in their future. Why dey call'em "common sense", wen not so common?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/27/2009 01:59:38 AM
Message:Dukie says Jay have the flu. I hope he did not eat some bad opihi. I hope you feel better soon, my Happy Star.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 02/27/2009 11:32:19 AM
Message:I was jus tinking dat it looked like one of gitardeds icons awreddy.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 02/27/2009 5:51:47 PM
Message:Yeah da monkey mo cute/ LOL
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/28/2009 01:56:54 AM
Message:Mebbe he's not Portagee after all. Mebbe he is Maori.
Reply author: Momi
Replied on: 02/28/2009 06:30:04 AM
Message:Da pitcha on da lef mek me tink of Mel Cabang + one fugu. `As one deadly combo.
Da pitcha on da right mek me tink of . . . me. I paht uchinanchewbacca, aftah all. Plus da `ukulele, `as why.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/28/2009 10:16:18 AM
Message:Da monkey playing C6+9!
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 02/28/2009 5:27:16 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck
Da monkey playing C6+9!
Whyfo' you say dat? Da ting no got steel in left hand!
Reply author: braddah jay
Replied on: 03/01/2009 6:35:43 PM
Message:Eh dat buggah look like somebody I know.Fo real momi,does look like mel cabang.Now you know why duke wear glasses,hehehe.Das da one I save fo wen my daughter bring home her first boyfriend.
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 03/04/2009 07:42:54 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by sirduke58
Wat a coincidence,dat look like da same face he give me wen I accidently cut one sweet one
You shua was accidental? Anyways...tanks for remindin' me. I ste all out of kim chee.
Anybody wen see No Reservations da udda nite? Had da Anthony Bourdain guy in ROK an he was at da kim chee farm...had crocs of kim chee all ovah buried in da yahd! Doze guys mus really cut some sweeties!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 03/04/2009 08:02:04 AM
Message:Yep, I saw that kim chee show. I also saw one nodda show, now I cannot remember which it was, maybe Jeff Corwin, for making nuoc mam or whatever the Thai guys call fish sauce and how it is made. I had no idea the fish ferments for so long. Would that be like oyster sauce what I use for Chinese cooking?
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 03/04/2009 09:24:52 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
Yep, I saw that kim chee show. I also saw one nodda show, now I cannot remember which it was, maybe Jeff Corwin, for making nuoc mam or whatever the Thai guys call fish sauce and how it is made. I had no idea the fish ferments for so long. Would that be like oyster sauce what I use for Chinese cooking?
Yahooooo. Bagoong lil' bit mo potent den oyster sauce.
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 03/08/2009 08:25:45 AM
Message:whoa, whoa, whoa...What happened to da post count? I thought the pages were up in the mid-eighties?
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 03/08/2009 9:08:22 PM
Message:Dukes stuff was deleted.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 03/10/2009 12:06:47 PM
Message:Sad Duke like go. I unnahstan wea he stay come from, but dere still stay plenny peopo hea dat tink Gabby da one, an no like hapa kine. Onli reason I stay hea is cause I like one taste of da Islan, an Duke wen give plenny o'dat. Onli hope no oddah braddas like go jus cause some peopo no undahstan da issues Kanaka Maoli get wi da cultural plagiarism. If all da local braddahs goine go, den no moa reason foa me to visit.
Annyways, da good ting is I goine fly Big Islan tomorrow foa see my o'hana- only one week, but mo bettah den no ting!
Chris
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 03/10/2009 1:52:58 PM
Message:
quote:I wouldn't want anyone to go, local or not. I get plenny wise stuffs also from those who are not Hawai`i-born.
Originally posted by ypochris
If all da local braddahs goine go, den no moa reason foa me to visit.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 03/11/2009 06:34:57 AM
Message:You can't raise a group to consciousness. Errybody stay on one different page errytime. Can ony help individuals one at a time. Communication, sharing.
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 03/20/2009 11:04:16 AM
Message:Buddah fish Laulau? Das ottomadick 10 buck a pop dat!!! Mobettah dey call 'um "Blood Fish" cause das wat dey axing forum,no? Buggah look mean doe
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 03/20/2009 4:36:33 PM
Message:Good ting I ged some buddah feesh laulau still insai my freezah. Oddawize I go nutz. Dis yeeah I smaht. I wen go mek plenneh anden take em bak mainlan. Lomi, I can mek o'a heeya. But da poi an kulolo, az onaddah storeh. k-den, Duke ... Jay, happy birfday. Me, erreh friday, I celebrate birfday coz afta plenneh beeya, I so happi dat I teenk az my birfday.
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 03/20/2009 8:10:52 PM
Message:
quote:
originally posted by guitared
Brah, you said dat HOURS ago. How long mo I gotta wait?
Brah I nevah make 'um today
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 03/21/2009 12:49:18 PM
Message:Hey, dat look ono but my dahtah wen make me one birtday dinnah stay moa ono- kalua, laulau, bakalau salad wid hoi'o, poi, pork an peas- all kine ono grines I nevah get mainlan. Den durian, rambutan, beriba, an all kine oddah ono fruits fo dessert. But dat was da day befoa my birtday, cause I wen back mainlan on da birtday. Sad dat. Wen go see all da family an frens cause da doctor wen tell me no can fly. So I figgah mo bettah go now, while still can, doctah's ordahs or no. Some hard foa hele mainlan side wen I nevah know if goine see da ohana again. But get wife an new baby hea so had to come back.
Now Rosalind wen wake up so I gotta go...
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 03/21/2009 3:04:40 PM
Message:NEW BABY?????? An you no tell us? You ol buggah! Congratulations. We want pichas. I know you got pichas. Put e'm ontop da Taro Patch for Auntie to see. Eh, ad leas you one eckspirienst faddah. Gonna be funny you age trying fo teach to play baseball or ride a bike. Ow-ow-ow.
Whatchu waiting fo? Pichas.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 03/21/2009 3:06:22 PM
Message:OK. Nodda tread. Coming up Easter. Are any kaukau traditions in Hawai`i foa Easter? Paul's family used to make lasagne or ravioli. Paul's mama (now in heaven) liked to make cookies called pastorelli (I called dog biscuit cookies) and an easter bread, sweet dough with eggs twisted up in the braid -- very dry, dry, dry. My family like ham for easter, and pretty desserts. Some peepo like leg o lamb. You guys get da turkey tails again? Gotta have some kine jello thing.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 03/21/2009 5:19:49 PM
Message:"Whatchu waiting fo? Pichas."
Now I goine have foa go back tru da treds an remembah how foa load um on photobucket lidat.
Learn me foa open da mout.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 03/21/2009 9:50:08 PM
Message:Put em up on photobucket, den copy da url foa "image" by click ontop the "image" option undah da picha you like send ova heah. Den all gotta do is paste em insai da message you pose-ing on da taro patch. Can use ctrl-V for paste insai da message one shawtcut.
Hah Ed, whatchu tink, Auntie giving struckshuns how fo use da computah stuffs lidat. Maybe Auntie not such an ol' fut clime da pole fo ansah da fone.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 03/22/2009 10:40:00 AM
Message:I thought when our daughter was learning to play violin, it made the worst noise known to man. NOT. A guy who does not know how fo play accordion (read: Paul Certo) making noise. I think when `Oni`oni in heat she never yowls so bad.
Az y hahd.
Anybody wan buy one amplitone accordion? Good shape no mold.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 03/24/2009 3:23:40 PM
Message:Willie K -- he is an amazing man. What can't he do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbZy4CJ9jbE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhP6do0weMw
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 03/24/2009 9:24:56 PM
Message:Cool canoe project. Glad to see Wilie getting involved.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 03/25/2009 01:51:35 AM
Message:Paul would love to work on a canoe lidat. We read a swell book a while back, a very interesting novel called The Red Wind. Amongst other things, it was about building a wa`a the old ways, no power tools, making sure to get the proper wood, getting it blessed before beginning and making sure to have a proper naming ceremony when it was pau before putting it in the water.
We went to the Maritime Museum near Aloha Tower but no Hokule`a. Does anyone know of a canoe project like this one in Willie's video on Maui? If so, that would be a swell way to give back to Hawaiian culture, to work on a canoe while we are visiting O`ahu. It also is a good way to teach the keiki so much about their heritage, but also other skills they need in every day life, like persverance and discipline and honor. Like working together for a common purpose; how many hands make light work.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 03/25/2009 05:05:13 AM
Message:At NW FOlklife Festival a few years ago, there was a room with representatives of the local tribes working on canoes. You could talk story with the guys and they told about their tools, designs, differences between tribes lidat. the cedar smelled great, too. Baritone is helping with canoe culture revitalization for the tribes around Port Madison, WA. When my dad was a kid, the 4th of July was a big day for canoe racing in the Puget Sound area.
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 03/25/2009 10:52:13 AM
Message:Wanda said "I thought when our daughter was learning to play violin, it made the worst noise known to man. NOT. A guy who does not know how fo play accordion (read: Paul Certo) making noise. I think when `Oni`oni in heat she never yowls so bad."
Why I get stink-eye? I just put maka on it and see if it wen stay all bus up. I neva said can play 'em.
Paul
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 03/25/2009 6:52:55 PM
Message:Because it is one orchestra in one box, azz why da sound broke da ear if not done right. Peepo aks me alla time, "How you know if you play da right note if you no read da music?" I tell'em, "If you no play da right note, you know already! Bumbye get stink eye if wrong!"
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 03/29/2009 10:29:40 PM
Message:Dukie - I just wen notice da Stu Pedaso. Must be Podagee? Owa maybe Borinki? Oh, I guess maybe could be Pilifino? You so funny!
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 03/30/2009 02:08:44 AM
Message:
quote:
originally posted by wcerto
Dukie - I just wen notice da Stu Pedaso. Must be Podagee? Owa maybe Borinki? Oh, I guess maybe could be Pilifino? You so funny!
Oh yeah good friend from hanabuddah daze das y goddah pay homage.Tink da buggah jalike poi dog kine, all mix breed lidat.Choke famly all ovah da place. Jalike how Keoki Foreman name all his keiki Keoki all da Pedaso offspring name Stuart, even da wahines.
Shootz
Reply author: Bd1
Replied on: 03/30/2009 1:04:24 PM
Message:Hey Duke,I had a good friend named Williama Kewalo and his Brother-in-law named his kids Sunday,monday etc thru friday. Saturdays kid was Frances.......Go figgah !! They lived in Nanakuli and had a couple of Coke Coolers in the front yard under a Plumeria tree that was choke with Primo. Sliced limes with salt and pepper..........Ono!
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 03/30/2009 5:31:40 PM
Message:So ... den ... wot is Pilifino? Related to da pili grass? Befo time, wen da pili grass ged flowah, az da time fo holehole season.
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 03/31/2009 4:53:08 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by sirduke58
Tink da buggah jalike poi dog kine, all mix breed lidat.
You wen ring? Eh...howzit. Uncle Abe and Aunty Anne Dudiot from Kapaakea...wen name one of dea daughtas Abcde, like da alfabet.
Had chree Silva (mebbe was Sylva), bruddahs on Maui; Quick, Sterling an Hi-Ho.
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 03/31/2009 9:41:37 PM
Message:
quote:
originally posted by PoiDog
You wen ring? Eh...howzit. Uncle Abe and Aunty Anne Dudiot from Kapaakea...wen name one of dea daughtas Abcde, like da alfabet.
Had chree Silva (mebbe was Sylva), bruddahs on Maui; Quick, Sterling an Hi-Ho.
Eh John I akchoolee herd of doze chree Silva braddahs befo!!! And one of my dawdahs fren wen name her kid Abcde too
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 04/01/2009 03:24:59 AM
Message:Even worse, cooda named one Corvair.
One of that CUTE Ocean Kaowili's cousins who came to Cleveland for the hula workshop say Ocean's dad wen name his kids for different kine water, Ocean, Stream or River or sumtin lidat, aino can remembah exactly which.
But now I going tell you about da hillbillies in West Virginia: z true as true can be. Get one cousin named Reetha and her braddah name Anus. For genuine realz, but maybe he spell his name Anis.
And no foget da Lee braddahs -- Ugh and Home. Dey nomo girl frienz.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 04/01/2009 03:45:30 AM
Message:Next Monday one momentous day. Unko Paul and me, we done been hitched foah tirdy sicks yeahz, togeddah. An he still delights me. Whatta guy.
We oni just went to da court house anden. Nobody really knew we was "eloping". We did not have money for make a fancy wedding and that is not our style no how. But Paul's Ma knew he was off work that day so she left a list of chores for him to do for her. So after we wen get married, on da way to owah new apartment for, uh, well, for "celebrate" being married togeddah, we stopped at the dry cleaners to drop off Ma's laundry. Dat's owah romantickal story.
You guys get romantical stories?
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 04/01/2009 11:46:17 AM
Message:I knew of one wahine at Hawtel was named Halloween.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 04/02/2009 02:29:34 AM
Message:Speah feeshin - auwe: http://www.rr.com/news/news/article/9024/7321984/Man_hit_by_spear_done_with_underwater_fishing
I tink Braddah Menpachi mo keafull. Maybe da guy no respeck Kanaloa. I tink da guy Podagee by way of Brazil. Dey say speah was 6 inches long.
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 04/02/2009 05:10:40 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by noeau
I knew of one wahine at Hawtel was named Halloween.
On da Oddah hand, knew 2 wahines in LA in late 50's: Lelani Lifkus & Tondaleo Sahwartz - no Hawaiian in em 'tall.
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 04/02/2009 2:57:15 PM
Message:I have a cousin who was born on Halloween, but I never knew nobody named for it. On the other hand, I have known hundreds of kane's & wahine's who had no Hawaiian blood in them. Most of Ohio stay no mo da kine.
Paul
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 04/10/2009 9:30:55 PM
Message:Wot da kine tradishuno gift fo hi skoo grad-yu-ei-shun? Da lei wot have candy insai, dat fo hi skoo or oni keiki? Wot is Hawaiian kine money folz? Do you have one big lu`au party for da grad? Ova heah, dey have a big party fo da grad, pizza, fried chicken, stuff lidat. Mos erebodeh give kala to da grad insai a card -- dey alwayz need dakine.
But also too, wot are protocol for giving lei to someone? I neva like mek A.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 04/11/2009 09:38:35 AM
Message:Buy um one kaʻa.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 04/11/2009 11:35:34 AM
Message:Wanda - can actually give 'em one lei woven out of dollar bills, you know.
quote:On lei-away plan?
Originally posted by noeau
Buy um one kaʻa.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 04/14/2009 12:33:49 PM
Message:How I can make a stir fry wit out da ting get limp like one Salvador Dali painting. Tastes ono but not like in da restaurant. I tried fo stir fry each vejabo separate and da meat separate and den put togeddah and da buggah stay come limp an uglee. I put onion - come OK by itself. Den I cook shiitake and button mushrooms. Dey came OK by deyself. Den I cook da baby bok choy an da pea pods, dat come good by deyself. Den I cook da gahlic and da jinjah liddo bit and den put da beef. Da beef I wen marinate in shoyu gahlic and liddo bit toasted sesame oil. Den I drain da marinade and toss da pipi wit kohnstach. Den I chow da pipi, push da pipi up da sides da wok den add liddo bit hoisin in a middo. I cook dat fo liddo bit cause soomeone tole me no use "raw hoisin" gotta cook it in da wok liddo bit or taste raw. Den I add all da veg back and add liddo bit bean sprouts. And that is when da buggah really look watery. But I washed my bean sprouts in ice water, drained them and even patted them dry with paper towels, but.
Wot den?
How big wok I need? Dis one pretty beeg, but I no feed Samoan, oni me & Paul. Do I need cook higher temp? I put da dai-o almos to da highest.
I will not rest until I can make a decent stir fry. I mua!
Mebbe I put too much stuffs?
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 04/15/2009 07:42:25 AM
Message:Try meat first with oil and garlic and ginger with shoyuand oyster sauce when da meat half way cok add the thick veggies like carrot green peppers celery. Of course allstay chop up small kine. two minutes then add leafy stuff. 1 minute.Have corn starch dissolved awreddy and add that too fo make da gravy all in all about 7-8 minutse den put um in a bowll. If you make noodles cook separate and when pau put um in a bowl ad put da oddah stuff on top. Enjoy. Too me oyster sauce mo ono but can put shoyu and hoi sin if you like.Thatʻs onlyoneway fo make dis kine food. Jus remembah veggies only need beheated up not ober cooked.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 04/15/2009 09:18:06 AM
Message:Mahalo Braddah Al. I go try em again dis weekend. Tonight I making chicken low salt gyros wit dat gyro cucumbah sauce stuff.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 04/16/2009 2:55:23 PM
Message:Wanda,
High heat da secret. No can on da letric kine stove- da buggah no get nuff heat. Try check out da professionals- dey get makun kine gas burnah, like big enough fo heat one pua'a loa stewpot, den onli one bitty wok. Wen dey trow in da grines, lille bit lidat, da oil so hot da buggah flame.
Sad ting- I nomoa Gaspro makun burnah ovah hea, onli lectric stove like you. So- peanut oil, onli kine can take da heat, wid lille bit sesame fo flavah. High heat, big burnah, lille wok. Now hea da ting- sugah, salt, dey hemu da watah outta da grines. Den you get one stir steam, nomoa one stir fry- come all limp. Da stove no moa nuff heat foa evaporate da wai quick enough. So no moa seasonings in da fry- cook um on da side, den trow um on top wen pau. Not da same, but..
Onli oddah ting can do is get da kine gas burnah an do um right.
Chris
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 04/16/2009 9:18:30 PM
Message:I fogot add chicken broth enuff fo make da gravy. Chris is right too. The hotter the bettah.
Oh one nodah ting. If you in Waikīkī go eat at Fattyʻs behind da market place by the Miramar Hotel get one counter fo sit down an you can watch the cook make magic wit da wok. Erryting cook undah 5-6 min. onoono garantee!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 04/16/2009 11:58:54 PM
Message:Mahalo, Al and Chris - Yeah, I get electric stove, nomo ahi wela. I got a ceramic cook top to make em easy fo clean da bugga, no mo drip pans, etc. Yes, easy wonderful fo keep clean, jus wipe da buggah. Also good if you need summo countah top cause kitchen too small. But not good fo stir fry. I think I cannot make a good one at home, just have to get take out or go to restaurant. Hey Al, I will check out dat restaurant wen we go ova deah. Mahalo fo da tip.
Chris - Auntie Wanda no foget you did not put baby picha on heah. Wot, we gotta wait fo baby lu`au? She be goin pre-skoo befo we get see. You old buggah, you should be struttin' around crowin like one roostah, get da baby girl at you age.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 04/18/2009 11:46:26 AM
Message:I had one friend, had one gas fired wok. Ho! Da ting was giant, could cook one whole pork roast insai. Azz what we did, in da order Al wen say. Da pork all cube up, browned, den da onions, den da garlic, da ginger, da shoyu, Sarocha sauce, brown sugar, one beeg pot rice. ONO!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 04/18/2009 1:07:41 PM
Message:If I put da wok outsai on da gas grill, could I get it hot enough?
This week I am making stuffed cabbage. Paul is going to make some pheasants. I told him I would "try" it -- ah dunno. They look like scrawny chicken to me. He is outsai right now going to pulehu some rib steaks. First time this year for da charcoal grill. Today it is 70 degrees.
And how about the oddah day the Cleveland Indians wen beat the Yankees at the new stadium. (No talk about the next day when da Yankees beat da Indians. At least Grady wen hit a grand slam fo da Indians on da first day).
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 04/18/2009 3:58:38 PM
Message:Try make cake noodles (min biang) cripsy outsai sof insai. First you boil da noodles den drain um and put insai da fry pan wit peanut oil fry til crpsy den huli and do da same ting on da oddah sai. Whoa broke da mout wen you put da stir fry stuff on top.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/08/2009 8:30:56 PM
Message:From personal kine experience, Noeau can cook! Ono beef stew!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/09/2009 01:34:32 AM
Message:What happened to the one where he stay slurping da noodles ova and ova and ova......
They showed on Food channel where one Pake guy make noodles, ho, amazing. Italian noodle making just not quite the same. The Italians roll the dough out on a gadget called a chitarra (like a paisan style guitar) for cut out the noodles.
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 06/09/2009 07:18:29 AM
Message:Have WOK will Travel. My guitar no slice noodles but I noodle a lot on it.
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 06/09/2009 07:50:56 AM
Message:Las week I wen visit my sick bruddah in Kaneohe...No not da pupule hale, but he live Kaneohe by da Memorial Park.
Anyways, from dea, straight Waimalu branch Chun Wah Kam (I nevah like go into town, but I tink Char Hung Sut was close awreddy). One dozen char siu steam manapua, half-dozen baked, 2 dozen pork hash, half-dozen half-moons and 4 steam 9-layer rice cake an....fo da win, one double order roas-tuk cake noodle. Almos miss my plane home. Lucky bruddah in blue unda da ovahpass on da murdacycle was undastanding...also 'cause my name kinda familia in cop circles, but in da good way LOL!
At da airport, da TSA guy wen give me da look...Sista on HawaiianAir wit 6 hawaiian bracelets on each hand, she had one mout watering look, "Uncle, I can come eat your house?" Oni if you one termite...Nah, nah, nah, I said shua. But she nevah come. Took me 2 days wit da kids ovah fo eat all dat...
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 06/09/2009 11:49:18 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guitarded
[brAnden I let out one loud *oink* fo pay homage to dapua'apopoki dat provided for me dat meal.
Fix't.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 06/09/2009 1:38:16 PM
Message:Why is "The Ballad of Sweeney Todd" playing on my mental jukebox just now?
Reply author: PoiDog
Replied on: 06/09/2009 1:43:41 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by guitarded
Anuddah ting I heard is evah since Chun Wah Kam opened up in Waimalu, da cat popalashen went down ova deya too. How you figgah?
Dey had wun small plate wit pieces of small curvey hard white stuff fo pick yo teet. Wen look almos eggzakly like wun popoki claw! NAH! I ste boo-lyin!< I like dat wun!
Methinks Taropatch.net has been exposed to an entire new world of ethnic diversity! LOL!
I not goin' tell about da hoss and da big tongan family luau in Kihei...
Reply author: cpatch
Replied on: 06/09/2009 2:20:27 PM
Message:What's a half moon?
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 06/10/2009 9:16:44 PM
Message:Half moon is har gau. E Ed you da man!
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 07/02/2009 2:53:34 PM
Message:Hoooo brah some shame I stay. I wen totalee foget about dat one. So since you wen put one gun to my hed and stay twiss my ahm. I goin' force myself fo' endure da dreadful task of consuming one of doze horribly juicy lookin' Buttahfish Laulaus fo' your sake.No worry brah I geddum, I goin' tuff dis one out jess fo' you
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 07/02/2009 4:59:37 PM
Message:Yeah but dey ony make 'um on Fridays and dat give me oddah daze of da week fo' foget.Da odds not in my favah
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 07/03/2009 08:54:45 AM
Message:Duke write yourself one note and tape um on your guitar. So when you get up in da AM you spahk um right away.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 07/03/2009 10:37:40 AM
Message:Nah, Duke, da reminda, mobetta go tapem to yo hed so itz gonna be da firz ting you gonna see wen you open yo eyes. Nobody gonna laff coz molikely you gonna be da firz won fo seeum yeah?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/03/2009 11:07:07 AM
Message:What if he get one babe for see da notelettah?
Reply author: Hookani
Replied on: 07/03/2009 11:07:46 AM
Message:Gotta tell your clone on da tv fo' remind you cuz he probably going want some too.
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 07/03/2009 1:25:19 PM
Message:
quote:
originally posted by peter medeiros
Nah, Duke, da reminda, mobetta go tapem to yo hed so itz gonna be da firz ting you gonna see wen you open yo eyes. Nobody gonna laff coz molikely you gonna be da firz won fo seeum yeah?
Nah Petah dat no goin' work cause guarantee dat goin' make me dream about having hair again den wen I wake up bolohead I goin' be traumatized all ovah again.Den too depressed fo' go Young's....au'e no ho'i
quote:
originally posted by hookani
Gotta tell your clone on da tv fo' remind you cuz he probably going want some too.
Nah me & him no socialize lidat. It's strickly business wit us, plus dat he mo' lumpai den me
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 07/03/2009 10:06:51 PM
Message:Brah! wea yu live?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/04/2009 12:17:54 AM
Message:Ed - you liddo bit lucky for get lychee, but sometimes we even geddem ova heah in Ohio. Mattah fack, I am growin' my own lychee tree. Is growin' very nice, in a pot with my bromeliads. I was just wondering if I should put him in a biggah pot or plant him outsai in da yahd. Den maybe 20 yeahs I get some fruit.
Anybodeh know if da plant can live outsai in Cleveland wintahz? If he going go makemake, den I stay keep him in a pot just fo look at and remembah wen we get da fresh lychee.
Reply author: `Ilio Nui
Replied on: 07/04/2009 04:59:08 AM
Message:Everything you need to know about Lychee
dog
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 07/04/2009 2:38:05 PM
Message:Welcome to WA, da evergreen state!
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 07/06/2009 05:16:00 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck
Welcome to WA, da evergreen state!
At least on THIS side of da mountains!
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 07/21/2009 6:05:01 PM
Message:Long time I nevah wen to da lo'i. Das cause firs we wen Honduras, den we wen move Florida- stay some hot hea but I unnahstan da wintas stay a lilbit mo bettah den Michigan. Anyways da wahine one achual doctah now an dis was da bes job. Nomo residency on da Big Island...
But da reason I stay write is cause of da wala'au bout dat Tongan family an da horse- dat wen remin me of da story of one Waipi'o horse wid da unfortunate name of Gingah.
Now dis horse Gingah was one expert wid da fence. Da buggah she go undah, ovah, or through any kine. Undahstan, we get plenny horse run loose in Waipi'o, trash da lo'i an eat da garden. But dis one had one special talent.
Well, one day dis vegetarian hippy guy wen shot da horse, den wen emu da buggah wid plenny of gingah fo flavor. Not da whole horse- dey wen make smoke meat too, plenny gingah in da marinade (he had some help wid dis, cause one neighbor get idea, see...) Den dese guys, dey invite all da neighbors, eberyone whose garden wen get ate or lo'i trampled by dis leo, fo come to da luau- and some plenny wen show up, fo eat dis pain in da okole horse. Plenny was vegetarian, too, but dat nevah stop um from grine on dis horse dey all hated. Big party, an ono da meat! Fat, da buggah, an so sweet, wen was fed by your farm...
Den dis one neighbor, who like make smoke meat, he wen go make one present to da onah of da horse. "Oh", da onah say, "dis da mos ono smoke pipi I wen try!" "Mus be da Gingah", says da neighbor...
Chris
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/21/2009 7:49:12 PM
Message:One good storey, Chris. Long time no see. How you are? Congratulations to da wife. You neva did show us bebe picha. Florida get all dem kine hurricanes an tornadoes and fires. But you not going have for thaw the ice off your beard come November.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 08/24/2009 08:57:56 AM
Message:We had good eats on O`ahu.
Whenever I got sowah tummy from eating all those pills I have eto take for breakfast, I found the cure for me. Saimin at Zippy's made it all better. Some magic, I know, but it really, truly helped me settle my digestive woes on more than one occasion.
Teri beef bun and saimin. Little did I know that a teri beef bun was as big as a normal dinner plate. Hoh - da ono.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 08/25/2009 05:50:48 AM
Message:Looks ONO! Up here, in da upper left-hand corner of the map (cue seagull Retro),we can get some of Zippy's stuffs at Uwajimaya store.
Wanda, not errybody get 20/20 tastebuds!
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 08/25/2009 06:28:20 AM
Message:Dea Sista/Mada,
I no you havin yoa procedure today. We pray fo you. Take care an no eat too much saimin, get plany salt.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 08/25/2009 07:37:46 AM
Message:Oh, Petah. Procedure not until next Monday 8/31. I went for pre-admission testing today. That was the easy part. But I thank you for your kind wishes. Until the surgery, salt is OK because it raises the BP enough to keep blood flowing past the narrowed carotid artery so I don't turn into a dizzy dame.
Can you believe this is the only photo I have of my hero Peter? He musta turned his head just as the button was pushed. Still handsome, yeah?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/07/2009 12:13:33 PM
Message:Get some chance fo show da peepo Pidgin is da leo o Hawai`i at da Honolulu International Film Festival. Going be one movie ontop da beeg screen. Da movie called Pidgin: The Voice of Hawai`i. Here da hybolic deskripshun:
A profile of the language from its rise as plantation jargon to a source of island identity and pride. A worthy homage to all who hold a special place for island life in their hearts. October 18 7 p.m. at Sunset on the Beach, Waikiki and October 25 at 11 a.m. at the Dole Cannery.
Enny you guyz goin' go see da movie lidat, come tell Auntie all bout it wen you stay pau watch.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/01/2010 12:51:59 AM
Message:I bet was ono, Ed. Wow laulau, you really tellin da troot about youah hale in da boonies. Nomo sidewalks lidat.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/02/2010 06:39:22 AM
Message:Ya, da zipcode is "E, I, E, I, O". Eh, Ed! Da buggah nevah bring you malasadas"\?
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 02/02/2010 11:21:49 AM
Message:Hoooo Bruddah Ed some shame I stay. My shirt stay full of belly but oddahwize I'm full of shirt. Happy you fren bin get summah doze Buddahfish Laulaus from Young's to you. Tink about it doe,mobettah you sampo fo' you own self den sumboddeh else grind 'um and den tell you how good was.Az jalike tawcha dat.See Bruddah Ed I nevah like put you chroo dat.....das my story & I'm stickin' to it. But akchoolee...I full of shirt
PS: Dagnabbit some people are gonna be ticked off to see this bad boy thread resurrected Mr. Guitared....Right on brah PHM jalike one Ghost town but wit less peepo
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/02/2010 11:36:36 AM
Message:I chrai fo wala`au but iz hahd fo ansa myseff. I jess get myseff tickt off. I need you boyz ova dea lickety split. Wikiwiki.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 02/02/2010 11:45:17 AM
Message:Kden I ste, but I gotto go kaukau at Haili's Hawaiian Good Restaraunt down Kapahulu in a coupo minutes wid Vicky Takamine. We goin hamma out da plans fo won tree week Hawaiian music werkshop -- slack Key, hula, and songs lidat. Dis goin be dis summa. But we wen go cops da UH Music Dept. fo dis We starting small lidat anden we goin growem evry yea summa time. So wotchu like tok about? You can go ax anykine question lidat, I probably get da ansa oa no wea fo getem.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/02/2010 11:54:53 AM
Message:K-den, ask Aunty Vicki do she teach jalike Aunty Mapu since they both ste haumana Aunty Maiki? Are you allowed to make changes to what the kumu taught you oa you keep it exactly the same, fo honor da kumu lidat?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/02/2010 11:56:01 AM
Message:Amy Stillman going come back UH Manoa fo teach fo one yeah staht in August.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 02/02/2010 7:10:04 PM
Message:
quote:NOW he tells me!
Originally posted by guitarded
Da same ting goes for shave ice.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/04/2010 05:36:13 AM
Message:Would need one spesho duffle bag fo shave ice. Can buy da syrup?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/29/2010 02:12:10 AM
Message:Make me laugh.
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 06/29/2010 03:26:48 AM
Message:Howzit Bruddah Ed? Long time no smell lidat. No wondah nevah see you long time, you was hangin' out in dis chred all dis time?Dis one good way fo' make one reappearance. Augie is da bomb. Also good to see da bruddah wit' da nomo leg get good sense of humah.Bruddah went karang da oddah guy's oloz wit dat "Det nob" Gotta watch out dakine shawt one to da marbo bag
Jalike get one big puka insai me since all us fallahs no stay keep in contack. I just been lurkin' ovah hea cause nobody like tawk to me, maybe I get halitosis o'a get B.O. I dunno. I nevah fut long cause nomo feeling if no can share wit' my frenz. Az y hahd
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/29/2010 03:36:13 AM
Message:I hope da reglahz com back fo wala`au o'hea. Menpachi, Ed, Prof. Petah, you, all da oddah guyz. I stopped coz nomo fun tawkin to maisef.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 06/29/2010 03:41:00 AM
Message:When I was in hospido, I get one Filipino nurse. I ax if she evah wen grine balut and she said befo time in Philippines she did but when she get wotevah religion she is now, they nomo let peepo eat balut. What religion no permit balut? I was shame fo ax her. I wen read da Jesus Book (not pidgin kine) and I neva recolleck it say nomo balut.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/29/2010 06:59:03 AM
Message:Excuse da ignorance. What is "balut"?
I also tink we need one noddah antropologicamable treatise by MEMPACHIMAN!
Reply author: GUke
Replied on: 06/29/2010 07:17:47 AM
Message:Balut -- Filipino dish -- embryo chicken egg/or duck egg boiled in shell and served as such. Once referred to as "duck/chicken soup in a shell".
When eating you have to enjoy the crunch of the beak, and avoid those big eyes staring at you as you slurp it down. Sometimes you have to pick out the tiny feathers between your teeth. I myself have never tried and never acquired a taste as I was not born or raised in the Philippines. But I remember on my first visit to my parents homeland, street venders selling these in the Manila neighborhood I was staying. Cries of "Balut" still linger in the cobwebs of my mind.
Now the Filipino dish I love that turns haole stomach is diniguan sometimes referred to "chocolate meat" to hide its true nature.
Reply author: markwitz
Replied on: 06/29/2010 08:27:04 AM
Message:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balut_%28egg%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinuguan
Reply author: Admin
Replied on: 06/29/2010 09:04:57 AM
Message:Having never had it, it seems gross to me. However, my cousin spent some time in the Philippines and said it was good. He put it this way. If you like duck and you like eggs, balut is both in a single serving.
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 06/29/2010 12:33:01 PM
Message:Dinuguan (Dee-new-gwan) is awesome & probably one of my favorite dishes.In my opinion it taste a lot like Pork Adobo only juicier and more irony.You won't find the authentic home cooked Dinuguan in restaurants with the pig innards & stuff. It's a homogenized version with only pork belly or pork shoulder......still broke da mout!!! Balut is more hardcore, most my Part-Filipino friends don't eat it (or don't admit to it)Probably taste great but just the thought of an almost fully developed duck/chicken embryo in your boiled egg triggers the gag reflex.....But if Andrew Zimrin of Bizaare Foods can...then so can I. One day I goin' chance 'um. Maybe when I'm flying somewhere because they already have those "Courtesy bags" in case of emergency on the plane.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 06/29/2010 1:42:02 PM
Message:
quote:Ah, irony. I can't say that there's been much of that in my diet, unless I have to eat my words.
Originally posted by sirduke58
In my opinion it taste a lot like Pork Adobo only juicier and more irony.
While I have had "chocolate meat" (at a halau gathering), I don't think I'll ever be able to bring myself to eat balut.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 06/29/2010 5:39:20 PM
Message:Many cultures value blood as a component for some dishes. Religious communities sharing aspects of Kosher laws eshew those dishes.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/22/2010 12:29:56 AM
Message:What means"irraz"?
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 10/22/2010 3:39:20 PM
Message:Dat when some noise or sound come, your irraz hears um.
Unko Paul
Reply author: Bau
Replied on: 10/23/2010 12:46:11 AM
Message:I got skooled reading Uncle Remus as a young child so it dun bodda me nun.
Reply author: markwitz
Replied on: 10/23/2010 04:24:29 AM
Message:Use it in a sentence, please. I might guess that it means irrational, like "Your thought processes are totally irraz."
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/23/2010 05:41:11 AM
Message:To use to bring people up to date: Irraz the situation.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/23/2010 05:42:36 AM
Message:Eh, Duke, you make pork adobo? Pancit canton? Lumpia?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 10/23/2010 06:21:38 AM
Message:Anything Dukie makes is WAAAAY good. The man is a MASTER!
Reply author: sm80808
Replied on: 10/23/2010 07:02:47 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by wcerto
What means"irraz"?
Irritating
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 10/23/2010 10:49:25 AM
Message:
quote:
originally posted by Thumbstruck
Eh, Duke, you make pork adobo? Pancit canton? Lumpia?
Eh Kory I nevah did chrai make Pancit but da buggah look easy enuff fo' make. She go my chicken & pork adobo, erreboddeh seem to like 'um das y I hadhly make 'um, too many spesho request fo' make 'um again. Noddin' spesho jess vinegah, choke gahlic, lilabit shoyu, bay leaf and peppahcorns. Adobo is da chru hit & miss recipe because nobody I know maysha. My lumpia lilabit bogus. I used ground beef instead or pork and use 2 lumpia wraps instead of one. With choke meat insai and da doublewraps da ting come out sumtin like one haff eggroll haff lumpia hybrid, mobeetah lidat.Den dip da buggah in ranch dressing instead of Italian dressing like most peppo do.....winnaz & broke da mout
Eh Wanda, Shawn gave you da rite defa...defin..definee.......meaning of "Irraz"....You probly came upon da word on Facebook cause das one of my girls favrit words. It means irritating, to be irritating or to be irritated. Example: Many members of Taropatch will be "irraz" to see this thread resurrected"
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/24/2010 12:56:01 PM
Message:Eh, notting wrong wit planning ahead. Been long time since I wen eat adobo. Get pancit at NWFolklife plus da BBQ pork skewers. I erry time get da Pilipino kine grinds at least one day. Salmon an' shrimp jambalaya at one oddah stand. Meat pies, brats, BBQ brisket, I stay HUNGRY! Almos' time fo cook! An' no fo'get da pie-baked-in-a-bag. Good t'ing we gotta holoholo walk feets an' burn da calories.
Reply author: rendesvous1840
Replied on: 10/24/2010 3:42:17 PM
Message:We had moose on a stick at the ukulele workshop yesterday, courtesy of Dr.Sam, who went holo holo mokulele to Labrador & made meat. Was ono.
Unko Paul
Reply author: honugal
Replied on: 10/26/2010 09:25:55 AM
Message:Keep this topic up! I'm loving it! Catch myself thinking and talking pidgin more and more. It's very practical and so colorful too! Just don't want to offend any Hawaiians, das all... Mahalo, Honugal
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 10/27/2010 04:10:23 AM
Message:Learning and practicing another language or dialect can be a good mental exercise and make one more conscious of how language works.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 02/11/2011 3:55:02 PM
Message:Ho, stay long time I nevah wen step insai da lo'i. 18 mont, I tinks. Dis why- auntie Wanda like bebe picha, an I stay shame neva like figgah how fo post um. Speshly wen she wen tell me how.
Nodda ting- ebry time I stay in da lo'i, I like go home. Six yeah, an I onli wen visit couple time. Tink I stay foget how fo tak da kine.
Bu' u buggahs stay talk dinuguan. Las time I wen tri um, waz numbah 50 fo my hanai dad, Jackie Kaholoa'a. He wen say "stay tired Hawaiian gines- I like Pilipino kine dis time!" So I stay help dose ol pilipino buggahs, cut meat lidat. Wen dey like make da pig, firs wen cut da troat, catch da blood. Loud, dat. Chicken, too, dey like all da parts. Dey like keep everyting but da hair an da feather.
Pilipine kine grines li dis- get meat, meat, meat, an mo meat. Den dey staht in on da meats. Den, get meat. On da end, lilbit bakalau salad. Dis da ting, but- lilbit blood meat fo da pahty, but da dinuguan, milk gut, cockscomb soup, some kine squah blood wid vinigah dey nevah like cook- all da ono stuffs, dat neveah leave da kitchen. Fo da gest, dey nevah like help so all dey goine get is da junk- all dat meat we like tro away on da table fo dem.
I like get da good kine stuffs ovah nea, but no can, onli da junks- steak an li dat. Das why haad, no?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/12/2011 12:45:10 AM
Message:Hoh, Chris, happy fo see you! And now nomo bebe picha, one grown up person already.
You wife stay one doctah? Wea you stay now -- in da souf'? Alabama kine?
But you can see dat peepo nomo like wala`au in dakine.
Whachu been up to? You been playing music?
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 02/12/2011 04:06:08 AM
Message:Stay Florida still. Nasobad, get plenny wai, plenny aligatah, lidat. Flat, do. Nomoa pali- I mis um. Mosly I take care da keki an like write. Da buggah stay two aready.
Weah eryone stay? Slow, but.
Anoddah ting- I tinking dis buggah wen wack one tousand like, two yeah ago? Now you wen wackum again. Wazzup widdat?
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/12/2011 06:08:43 AM
Message:Eh Chris! Dat small kid stay walking now, so can help aroun' da hale, go fetch stuffs, an' learn fo kanikapila. Good you stay play music for'um bumbye da keiki no sked da music.
Glennpachi, wea you stay, brah? I hope you stay writing one antropologimacal disertation fo our edifications. Also like heah from GuitardEd. Can lead one horse to drink, no can make'm wattah, but.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 02/12/2011 08:07:42 AM
Message:Me, I wen lef my guitah Big Islan. Kinda junk, das why. Da wahine mean on dat piano, but. Keikiwahine like um, too.
Da keiki stay wak, stay tak- smaht buggah, dat! Plenny Spanish, too, bu da wahine nevah like I tech her da kine. Latahs, I tink.
Yah, I stay make Hawai'ian kine BBQ pua'a las nite, make me tink bout da lo'i, alldatime tak ono kine grines. So I wen spock um. Das why stay.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 02/12/2011 10:10:17 AM
Message:So wot? We go staht agen?
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 02/12/2011 10:40:56 AM
Message:Sownz good to me Professah, pehea o'e? Miss you my fren,miss all da fallaz.
Long time no smell Chris. Good fo' heeyah you nevah lose you pidgin aksent yet.....Bettah yet, good fo no you no ste fo'get us ohea in da Lo'i.Welcome back my bruddah.
Eh Glennpachi & Geetahded's maddahs, can you boys come out fo' play? We go make shuwah dey ste home befo dahk time....An maddahs if you no let dem come play den mobettah you go fly kite
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/12/2011 10:42:04 AM
Message:Wot you mean, "Staht agen"? We still yet making dakine!
BTW, Peter, sorry we wen miss you wen we wen stay Oahu, but still had plenny chance fo jam. Jack an me even wen jam wit Oz and da young Peter Moon!
Eh, Chris, can use da crockpot fo kalua pig, den da whole hale smell ono.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/12/2011 11:07:09 AM
Message:Glennpachi so good at telling stories. And he so akamai, too. I like soak up some smahts.
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 02/12/2011 11:34:33 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck
Wot you mean, "Staht agen"? We still yet making dakine!
BTW, Peter, sorry we wen miss you wen we wen stay Oahu, but still had plenny chance fo jam. Jack an me even wen jam wit Oz and da young Peter Moon!
Eh, Chris, can use da crockpot fo kalua pig, den da whole hale smell ono.
Sorry Kori, I was axing da local boyz. You neva nodice da loco boyz no ste on TP fo won long time?
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 02/12/2011 4:09:50 PM
Message:Oh, da termite stay come outta da woodworks- I like!
"Eh, Chris, can use da crockpot fo kalua pig"
No can, bruddah. Need lua fo kalua. An ti leaf, fo da flavahs.
Kacrockpot pig ono too, but.
Menpachi man no can? I like tak fih wid him! Bummahs...
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/13/2011 11:27:50 AM
Message:Eh, Peter, da local boys jus' quiet, azz all. No mo nuff potagee maybe. Maybe dey hapa Japanee, dey get plenny fo say but dey no like talk about it (could be same said fo Scandihoovians, one lady wen tell me, "We cry too, but we do it behind the barn.").
Today I stay taking one mini-vaction from da low carb kine diet and I stay goin make one cheesecake (small kine). No worry, da graham cracka crus' is "whole grain". Balance--hahd fo attain, hahd fo maintain.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 02/13/2011 1:13:07 PM
Message:eh braddahz ! How u guyz ste?
woah, long time i no cruz dis site. i ste come chek em out anden u guys ste come out again. Aurite den.
ansa to Retro from da odda tred:
<<<<
Dat buggah pops in - posts his wisdom - vanishes - deletes his posts.
But it's enough to signal that he still watches over us ... Braddah works in mistee-remous ... myssi-terry-muss ...
musty-tremendus ... ... ... ODD ways. >>>
Brah, i nomo wizdom. I oni ged pupuledom and lolodom. Anden no can help post and delete coz I ged multiple personalities. Won guy insai me post wot he tink, den da odda guy delete em coz he tinkin, eh, u not maoli! wot u postin dakine stuff fo, anden u donno hawaiian musik dat good !! u no mo bizness posting yo opinion. so az y !!
I no pleh geetah so much since my leff middo finga ste stuck wid ahtritus. No bend so good. Sometime she go, sometime she no go. I still pleh doe. But, I woz kaina depressed. But now I going bak to massho arts and stayin in da gym 2-3 hrs at a time. I bot trout fly rod too so I ste practice how fo shoot da line. I ste chai new hobbies.
Kory, u like no wot on my mind? hehe ... kden, I go rambo on -- not da kine movie kine rambo, da kine tok storeh kine rambo. kden, i go rite storeh fo u since I ste dreenkin beeya an tinking of home.
I living in da pass. I tink I one living ghost. One feeshin place i wen go, i see strange tings weya I saw very few peepo befo. I saw white "kumus and seals" laying on da rocks. I saw dog shet weya neva see dog shet befo. I saw opala weya neva had befo. I saw wata weya neva had befo. Look like da ocean rising. So many strange teengs. I wonda wot da spirits of da land feel of dese strange teengs an sometime pilau teengs.
Anden stuff i useta see dat now I no see. I neva see da skool of nenue an humus weya had befo. How can da buggas dissapeeya from 1 yeeya ago? Long time ago, 40-50 yrs ago, had plenneh feesh dis one place. Now nomo manini skools, nomo moi, nomo da wowo jumpin tru da waves. One spot I went, had plenny mamo doe. Usually da humu an nenue no geeve em chance fo bite. I tinkin, no wonda da spirit wen yell one nite time wen I wen go look fo loli.
Hoh, sounds like Hawaii 78 eh? Yea, I tink how da tutu kane, tutu wahine, and son, all pass away tink about da place. Mah neibahz granfadda buried deya too. I remembah mah neibah faddah all sked toking of hearing his fadda calling him wen he wen go torching for feesh oa deya. Wot da spirits of da old peepo tink of da place now? Da ones hu ste buried in da graveyard now overgrown and unrecognizable. Da "new" peepo donno dat dis one spot woz graveyard. Ya, how wood da ole spirits feel wen deya resting place get desecrated. I not maoli so mebbe i nomo business posting dis kine stuff. Ya mebbe I go delete dis latah on. One time at da regulah graveyard, I saw dis lady wokin her dog. Da dog wen go piss on da grave stone. I wanted to keel da lady an da dog. Incredible disrespek. Ya, az how da spirits feel wen u desecrate deya land.
Tinkin about da ole peepo, I rememba tutu pounding poi ole kine way. She no woz beeg kanaka lady. She woz tin wid long wite heya an tik glasses. At dat time I neva no dat her expert style was someting I wood neva see again. Ya ya, i no .. ole style poi pounding useta be men's work, heh, but woz out of neccesity since tutu kane died. Da lan taro woz boiled in da 5 gallon crakah cans ova fiya. She peel em wid opihi shell. Befo time dey use opihi shell fo clean feesh an mek spoon too. I remembah her an da dawdah toking about how one wahine died from pounding poi wen she wen pound her finga. She probably died from blood poisoning wen no had much medical doze dayz. Dey spoke Hawaiian. I neva tink notting of it since all da ole peepo befo time spoke native languages. I neva no dat dis dialect would neva be herd again. Even wid da revival of the language, dialects are lost. Hehe, mebbe can tok new dialek, like peepo mekin new slak key an new hula. Tutu useta mek lauhala mats too, da regula kine and da fanci squaya kine wid puka in da middo. Ahdonno wot da style iz. Mebbe u guys hu no Hawaiiana no dis mo betta. Ahdonno too much Hawaiiana stuff. We useta sleep on da mats. She eventually went senile. It broke my heart to see her blank stare.
Long ago dey lived in a cave carved in da beeg dirt hill befo dey build da house on wonoddah hill. Neva had kala fo mek house. Da house is now owned by rich man hu owned IT company. Da cave weya dey lived collapsed coz of beeg earthquake. So now dat is nomo, like da family and all da generations of Hawaiians too are now nomo. Da "new" guy hu own da place at leese preserved da place as it as. I respek him fo dat. But he donno dat tutu kane is buried around da house. I donno weya since dat was secret. I get idea weya ste but no good tok about weya ste. We neva slept upstairs since tutu kane footsteps was herd wokin aroun upstairs. Wen da son got married, da wife cood not ste deya coz she wood see tutu wahine spirit. She wen go back to PI. So da guy hu own da place now may or may not be aware of the spirts still "living" deya.
Around one place in da area had konane carved into da rocks, ocean sai. Anden had one imprint -- look like one beeg feet. Small keed time, we wen call em Kamehameha footprint. Tutu used to catch bebeh manini using coconut leaves to chase em in a net. Ya ya, I no dat u conservationist say dis is no good. But dis woz private land and dey had plenni bebeh manini erreh yeeya. 4-5 peepo can oni eat so much. So we ate dried small manini dat she made. Gotta wach out fo da spike wen u eedum, bumby poke da mout. Now dis is nomo. Wen we caught puhi uha, had plenneh small manini in da stomach. Now puhi uhatoo is nomo aroun dat place.
Dat place still ged plenneh mana dat peepo dunno about. Plenneh archeological treasures too, but I tink or hope dat it will be "buried" wid geological time as it was buried in secret in da fers place. Like many of the old burial places buried by bulldozers due to development of real estate properties. Some of us are aware that the ole spirits may rise to visit you if you own da property. Espeshulli if u made cesspool around da burial undagroun. Hehe, but we locals tend to keep deese storehz to ourselves due to ridicule from outsiders. Haha, mebbe I should not even have said dis. Mebbe I go delete dis post latah on. Had one guy wen bulldoze one place fo cleeya da lan. Few dayz latah he broke his leg from accident. "Dey" say dat he bulldozed ovah peepo dat woz buried deya. Becoz peepo woz buried in secred befo time, u neva no hu ste unda yo house or yo land unless u can "see" wen oa da spirits rise to bodda u. Plenneh war befo time. Plenneh site had mass burial oa juss leave da bodies. No woz juss aloha dis, aloha dat. Az oni in modern times dat peepo tink aloha dis aloha dat.
Ged plenneh places like dis in Hawaii dat I juss toked about. Plenneh versions of Hawaii 78.
Get hope fo da yongah generashuns. Wen I went feeshin wid mah niece, she said "Hala unko, u step ovah yo feeshing pole !!" Heh, u oldah Hawaii folks will smile at dis coz u may no da meaning.
Reply author: Menpachi Man
Replied on: 02/13/2011 1:23:01 PM
Message:ey waipio chris
mah moddah place on beeg isle ste get wile peeg bussing up da anturium. Nex yeeya I godda go keel em. Mebbe I go mek trap. Lass winta mah fren wen go trap coupo. One woz not too fat doe. We wen mek adobo. I no like hunting coz too much werk. I like go KTA buy pork but ...nuff.
Wot bradda Ed ... nursing home?? .. wot ?? u like beef??? too bad coz I tink oni going ged feesh an baboi.
eh chris ... can ... go chrai green banana skin anden puddem on da pork butt and roast em. haha, not da same but fake smoke an green banana skin on top da pohk ... roast em ... she go. Goddah experiment wid da foil and how much u burn em doe, ya but, hoh but not da same. Good teeng I still get laulau wid buddah feesh.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/13/2011 2:07:05 PM
Message:Eh, Glenn! Good fo "hea" you talk story! Eh, not ony Hawai'i get peeplo living wit'out knowledge of what has gone before. Any kine place, weah eva, get ancestor guys an' historic cultures from before tutukane's small kid time. "If you don't know where you've been, how do you think you'd know where you're going?" Good t'ing Akua keep track. Get plenny living done on dis planet, ony liddobit t'inking. Jus' press.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 02/13/2011 2:16:13 PM
Message:Eh Menpachiman,
Maika'i I stay spock dat oddah pos afor u like wack um offa da site. Leaveum, I say. Dis kine stuffs is wot da generashuns need hea.
"Ya ya, I no dat u conservationist say dis is no good."
Das me, bruddah Menpachi, bu' u stay wrong. No good whack da beeg one, ia nui, cause dem da breeders. Law all mess up, no get 'um. Wen get pleeny da nui ones, den get plenny keiki. All dem bebeh manini, I tink mebbe one get nui, mebbe nomoa. Mo bettah grine da keiki kine, den da manini nui goine make plenny moa. Wack da beeg one, den u get nomoa.
Get fishing right fo one ahupua'a, Kohala side. We neva let nobody wack da opihi nui, nevah let nobody sell- ohana kine onli. One DLNR guy, he count um, he wen say get moa opihi on one pohaku dea den dey get on da hole moku O'ahu side. Das da way- no take da beeg one. Den get plenny. Keiki kine no mattah.
Stay lilbit sad, da story you wen tell. On dis ahupua'a, stay use opihi yet fo scrape da kalo. Anytime you like come, come!
Wen foget- tanks fo da scoop on how fo cook da pua'a wid da maia skins- I goine try um...
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/13/2011 3:04:01 PM
Message:Glen - like that in West Virginia, too. Very sad what progress does to the land and the memories.
Happy to read your talk story, though, because like I say, you are very smart in so many ways.
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 02/13/2011 4:05:00 PM
Message:Cheeeeeee pono!!!!! Look like I we ste get one reunion o'hea
Eh Glennpachi, you Hawaii '78 jess as good as da Makaha Son's one.No hemo dat post becaws even makule peepos like gotta be reminded about stuff lidat......Sometimes us lolos on da aina ste too close dat no can see da beeg pikcha, take fo' granted an no malama da aina.Az y hahd wen da homegrown dunno
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/14/2011 01:16:19 AM
Message:Yep, even us makule peepo.
Periodically I hear about good things, though. Like trying to farm fish in the ocean itself. Not like fish ponds from old times, but similar concept. But I think was some fish that Hawaiians normally do not eat but Samoans like and they were trying to market this type of fish to get Hawaiians to eat them. That must be like trying to market tilapia. Blecch.
Used to iin W. Va., could buy land so cheap, they were practically giving it away. Now when I want some land down there, i costs WAAAAY too much. Because rich city people went and bought land and have their weekend "cabins" there so they can go ride a horse and think they are country people. Haha - jokes on them. Country people don't ride horses, they ride pick-up trucks. And they used mules to work with, not horses because horses eat up too much food for the output one gets from them. Nobody keeps a cow anymore, nobody grows tobacco for a cash cop. Matter of fact, if people plant their own personal kitchen garden, that is a major accomplishment. The young people don't care about that kind of stuff, and the makule ones can't do a lot of that stuff any more. I don't keep a garden because I am too makule.
The creeks we used to play in when we were kids no longer exist or are just bare little trickles of water because so many damn dams have been built - supposedly for flood control. Sure makes big lakes for the super duper power motor boats to go zooming all over the lake so you get a lake full of oil. And the people who like fish from shore or from a pontoon boat get the brunt of the speed boat wakes. I think it looks crazy to see so many house trailers dotting the landscape. Nobody builds a house anymore. Houses cost too much. Now you have made it if you can get a double wide. But I remember the houses with the tin roofs and you could hear the rain on the roof when you were laying in the feather bead. Now the in roofs are different kind -- aluminium on a trailer.
I am very sad for the things my children have only heard about and that their children (if someday I EVER get grandchildren) will never even know existed.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/14/2011 05:58:43 AM
Message:There is nothing so constant as change. Common sense isn't common. Nostalgia ain't what it used to be. Every era has its plus and its minus. We're alive now, let's appreciate the opportunities we have despite the ignorance around us. None of us is as dumb as all of us.
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 02/14/2011 11:28:08 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck
There is nothing so constant as change. Common sense isn't common. Nostalgia ain't what it used to be. Every era has its plus and its minus. We're alive now, let's appreciate the opportunities we have despite the ignorance around us. None of us is as dumb as all of us.
As the late Biff Rose wrote "Sometimes I slip and use cliches" WOT????!!
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 02/16/2011 04:36:34 AM
Message:S'wat, I wen step insai da lo'i, hemu coupla bags, some bruddas wen sho up outta da woodwork like hemu too, den I wen back to da hale fo wack a coupla cold ones an wen I get back, no one stay?
Get pleeny bag fo pull yet, friens. Why stay tink mobettah go home?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 02/16/2011 05:14:22 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by ypochris
S'wat, I wen step insai da lo'i, hemu coupla bags, some bruddas wen sho up outta da woodwork like hemu too, den I wen back to da hale fo wack a coupla cold ones an wen I get back, no one stay?
Get pleeny bag fo pull yet, friens. Why stay tink mobettah go home?
E Cris,
Wotchu mean we ste ova hea but erybody quiet coz get da annual drama wid won nu twist kinda like da Supabowl but molike As da Wirl turns. Dey callem da Hawaiian Grammies you rememba dis won. Erry yeah we get won new edition ova hea. E, even get won Sarah Palin rift going. But az won new parent you goin spokm rite away as good ol bad behavior, wen da keed like go take control of eryting. Ho da drama, ho da suspense. Ho would be sumptin if woz like reel life no? Kenna get enuff of it, keepem coming. Ho Dennis K wen go say afta Tia wen go win “We waz robbed.” Da proverbial sh*t hit da fan. Erybody git won not up dea undawea, anden someone go pull da wedgees even mo tight, da kine wea you go say ow weee, den ov course you get da occasional lolo oh brudda go doem again.
Funny no, Nobody ova hea wen even nodice dat 80 million people in Egyp wen jez git rida da dicteita and get plany moa peepo axing fo da same. Not won peep not won comment. Ery body get won disease ova hea called myopia. Kinda like makapiapia wen you kenna open yo eye cause get plany makapiapias insai. Myopia da eye ste stuck on one ting anden kenna focus on udda stuff. Anyways, ahui hou da sun goin rize preddy soon I tink.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/16/2011 09:06:08 AM
Message:You wen hit da nail ontop da head, Peter. Some luxury dat we get fo ignore da res' of da world. I remember one comedian was talkin about da tragedy of da 2nd homeless - peepo so bad off dat dey no mo da 2nd home. "I wen stay complain dat I no mo slippah til I wen spock one guy dat no mo feets. Den I wen tink 'HE no need slippah!'" Sometimes need one feeler gage fo measure our depth as a society.
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 02/16/2011 10:23:07 AM
Message:Unfortunately das human naycha "Outa site outa mind" Da Grammy kukae is closah to home and is good fun fo' lissen to all da clueless peepo on boat sides of da fence.But no worry Chris us guys ste hea. Jess dat jalike one train reck, no mattah how hahd you try fo' look away you no can.
So wat Chris, you bin try make da kalua in da oven wit da green banana skin? And wat she go?
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/16/2011 10:25:28 AM
Message:I tink even da Bible say "take da log outta you own eye befo you chrai take da splintah outta you braddah eye."
Reply author: Superslide55
Replied on: 02/16/2011 10:40:25 AM
Message:We be Ohana, no madda where you from. If you love dis kine mele, if you try to have aloha n'pono in all you do, Pidgin or no, it's all good!
Bless'n to all dis Ohana!
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 02/16/2011 3:50:08 PM
Message:Tia! I tinkin mebbe she be one nu Gabby oa Petah Moon, lidat, no?
Oh, nevah mine.
An Duke, I nevah ben try um yet. Byembye I goine try. Make some plenny pulehu rib dat oddah day, an da wahine no like grine moa pua'a.
I tinkin mebbe Hawaiian ohana need fo take one example from dose Egip guys. Oa mebbe dose benefits too ono? Nevah like give up dem Federal dollahs?
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/16/2011 6:57:43 PM
Message:Eh! Dem Middle East guys neva like kalua da pig. Tink of da ramifications!
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 02/17/2011 3:08:41 PM
Message:So, I wen hunt fo one fat sow foa make da green maia kalua pig, an you no I wen catch! I tell da countah man "try trow me dat pork butt" an he toss em to me. Den I wen go ovah to da maia patch, an dey get some I tink dey wen foget gas, stay green yet.
Funny ting, do- da pua'a ovah hea, I tink dey backword kine. Dis y- I wen wack, I donno, mebe tousand, two tousand pig Waipi'o side, an ebry one get da shouldah bone in da front. Bu dis pork butt, stay get one sholdah bone insai. So I tinking mebe da pua'a hea, de get da okole in da front, an das y da butt get shouldah bone. Backword kine, I tinking. Plenny ting dey gets backword ovah hea. Specially da priorities. Kala onli ting mattah, ohana an aina no mean no ting.
Anyways, I goine try da maia kalua. I tinking low an slow. Anybodys get tips fo me, no wait, yeah?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 02/17/2011 4:11:32 PM
Message:Nah bradda,
It’s all a mattah of perspective. You go turn da pork butt , you go givem one 180 degree turn anden da bone gonna go ste onda okole side Yeah?
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 02/18/2011 03:02:11 AM
Message:Mebbe you stay right, bradda Petah. Den agin, meebe da peopos ovah hea no can tell da okole from one puka in da aina, so dey nevah nose wich end da okole stay...
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/18/2011 07:22:11 AM
Message:Fo some kine reason, da "pork butt" is from da shoulda.
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 02/18/2011 08:50:32 AM
Message:
quote:
originally posted by ypochris
Funny ting, do- da pua'a ovah hea, I tink dey backword kine.
I ste chrai use logic he'a an I tink da Professah is rite.Mebbe wen you walk insai da mahket you went insai one difrent dowah an das y da pork butt was backwords.
But if das true dat da mainlan pua'a get da okole in front den mobettah da mainlan guys teach da pig how fo' walk backwords, no?
Reply author: Peter Medeiros
Replied on: 02/18/2011 10:35:30 AM
Message:E Chris,
Neva mind da pork butt. Go make shoyu chicken. Da mainland stores get good kine chickens lidat. I tink gonna come out mobetta. Jez go make sua like when you go stoa fo buy chicken, dat its chicken not frog, Dey look da same almos. You go eatem bumbye you going croak.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 02/18/2011 1:12:36 PM
Message:Get pleeny frog, but, Kohala side. Wen I firs wen stay wid my hanai fadda Waimanu Jack in Waimanu, we wen catch pleeny frog- bamboo, skinny fish line, an small kine plastic on end fo bait. Wen dat frog like grine yo "fly", one quik pull an da buggah come flying fo he can lego. Ono da leg! Jackie, he like prawn, bu I no can grine dat kine so we do da frog ting. Canna grine pua'a all da time. Nevah croak yet, cept da wahine tink I one bullfrog wen hia moe.
Talk bot grine pua'a all da time- I wen chri green maia skin "kalua", an da buggah tase like rost pua'a. Mebbe I no do um right? I donno. Mebbe no can unles get ti leaf fo flavah. I nevah like maia trunk in da emu anyhow.
I tink I goine go wit bradda Petah's manao- shoyu chiken, oa frog- i no kea. Ard fo tell wen da buggah no get featha. Da kua'aina nevah do too good town side. Moa bettah go home...
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/21/2011 2:52:44 PM
Message:Shoots! Even if ony chicken, dakine ono! Garlic, shoyu, ginger, brown sugar li'dat, maybe liddobit vinegar. Even Spam!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/21/2011 3:45:36 PM
Message:gotta have liquid smoke, Chris.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 02/22/2011 04:58:29 AM
Message:Bes I fine waz da chipotle Tabasco- kinda like ni'oi an liquid smoke...
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/22/2011 05:10:20 AM
Message:Chris - they sell liquid smoke in any grocery store. And if you cannot find it e-mail me with your address and I will send you a few bottles. That is a cooking staple!!!!! And NOBODY should be kalua pua`a `ole. I think they might have it in the spice department at the store or maybe wherever they sell worcestershire sauce. Or if push comes to shove, ask the litle grocery man.
Paul ate escargot on the cruise. Yuck. On accounta I think when I was a kid and we sprinkled salt on slugs in the garden to watch them turn into slime. I figured snails would be the same way, no?
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/22/2011 06:36:18 AM
Message:Desparate times have had an influence on cuisine. Lute fisk anyone?
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 02/22/2011 07:04:17 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck
Desparate times have had an influence on cuisine. Lute fisk anyone?
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/22/2011 4:01:30 PM
Message:It tastes great with melted butter!
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 02/22/2011 4:07:30 PM
Message:
quote:Add butter and pepper and bacon and scallions --- hold the fish.
Originally posted by thumbstruck
It tastes great with melted butter!
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/22/2011 4:15:48 PM
Message:I'll have yours, Gregg.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 02/22/2011 7:50:34 PM
Message:
quote:You can give my portion to Kory. Momi's, too.
Originally posted by guitardedquote:So would balut.
Originally posted by thumbstruck
It tastes great with melted butter!
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 02/22/2011 8:01:12 PM
Message:Half the joy of ethnic foods is grossing out squeamish folks. Don't worry, I've been grossed out also.
Reply author: Karl Monetti
Replied on: 03/08/2011 07:49:48 AM
Message:Ah, for some frozen pike, sliced thin and dipped in seal oil.........
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 03/08/2011 08:58:02 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck
Half the joy of ethnic foods is grossing out squeamish folks. Don't worry, I've been grossed out also.
IMHO, the Soct's are the winners, hands down, for using parts of animals that other cultures forego in their cuisine. Except for lutefisk, of course. Then there's gefilte fisch, which led a friend of mine to wonder if there was any connection between Scandinavian and Jewish cultures. Nah, reconstituted, salted fish is eaten by the poor, was my conclusion. I don't want to go further than this. I woke up this morning in a weird mood.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 03/08/2011 09:07:13 AM
Message:
quote:Salting was a common way to preserve foods in the pre-icebox days.
Originally posted by slipry1
... reconstituted, salted fish is eaten by the poor, was my conclusion.quote:Now that, I might try - no weirder than sashimi, I would think.
Originally posted by Karl Monetti
Ah, for some frozen pike, sliced thin and dipped in seal oil.........
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 03/08/2011 4:50:21 PM
Message:I'll try anything once, if I see someone else eating it. More than once, generally- some things that turn you off at first can become favorite foods. Poi, anyone?
I even came to appreciate Vegemite after a few months in Australia. Not nearly as good as milk gut, of course (chicken lower intestines).
(Edit) Stay sorry, bruddas! I wen foget dis da pidgin tred!
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 03/08/2011 6:38:27 PM
Message:No matta, Chris. Da subject of food should make one buggah try wax poetic kine.
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 04/15/2011 6:35:24 PM
Message:Hahahahaha I foget his name but his sales pitch ste ringing in my eeyah.
In dat raspy voice....Aw-Aw(Hot dogs) eenutz(peanuts),nyoke(coke).....all nite long
Yup Chunky's around the cornah on Isenberg.Den Stadium Bowl-O-Drome behin da rightfield bleachers
No can can foget dat Japanee lady wit da boil peanuts, doze was wirt da trip to da stadium rite deyah!!! Tinkin' of doze peanuts & now da batch you bin make ste make me weak
Reply author: noeau
Replied on: 04/15/2011 6:50:36 PM
Message:I was 11 or twelve or thirteen but I went sell football lineups one whole season I saw every high school game there was. Was free cause I sold dem lineups and could go inside. I think Iolani and Kamehameha and St Louis was the top three that year. St louis was busted for shaving points for some gamblers. Those WERE the days.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 04/15/2011 7:17:16 PM
Message:
quote:Hah?!?! (Not gonna try pidgin beyond that...) Are you telling us you can't get good boiled peanuts on O`ahu anymore? Not hard to do - make 'em yourself! (If you need recipe, lemme know - Momi has one.)
Originally posted by sirduke58
Gotta get good kine boil peanuts some place on dis island
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 04/15/2011 7:56:55 PM
Message:Hooooo Bruddah Gregg dat soun like one offah dat no can refuze. Tell Momi I trade my Gandule rice recipe fo' dat boil peanut one.......Figgah even swap caws my rice recipe feed 40 & I goin' make shuwah wen I make boil peanut da ting goin' serve 40 too
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 04/16/2011 03:29:17 AM
Message:I remembah Howard as fah back as da late 60s husling da grinds. We was pilau buggahs makin' fun of him & da way he tawk. We use to walk around da whole stadium imatating da powah guy, real nomo class kine housing kids yeah?
Imajin da prices on Howard shirt was good today.....
Chree hamburgah...............$1.50
3 hot dog.....................$1.05
Chree potato chips............$0.45
Chree cokes...................$0.45
Chree bag peanuts.............$0.75
Total $4.20
$4.20 now daze in Hawaii no can even get you one gallon gas
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 04/16/2011 05:50:29 AM
Message:Get boiled peanuts at some of da Hawaiian festivals Seattle side.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 04/16/2011 06:19:13 AM
Message:Dukie's gandule rice recipe is worth the trade for sure.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 04/16/2011 08:10:58 AM
Message:Chrai wait, chrai wait. Boiled peanuts is a southern thang. Virginia kine.
http://www.boiledpeanuts.com/faq.html
Do peanuts grow in Hawai`i?
Reply author: Tommy
Replied on: 04/16/2011 12:39:58 PM
Message:Wow you guys. A'ole pidgin cause the father smacked it out of me. But he did take me to all Rainbows home games at the old stadium. Mahalo for the memories. Anyone want to talk about (in pidgin please) the paper throwing skills from those days? I remember some awesome displays as Dick Schultz scored another one for the Bows.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 04/16/2011 12:50:28 PM
Message:
quote:Yes, Mililani area:
Originally posted by wcerto
Do peanuts grow in Hawai`i?
http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Honolulu-Magazine/November-2005/On-the-Peanut-Trail/
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 04/16/2011 3:03:10 PM
Message:I wen gro plenny peanut Waipi'o side.
No moa one native Hawaiian 'ai, but. I tink dey from South America way.
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 05/13/2011 12:09:47 AM
Message:Thanks to Judy Barrett for posting this video on Facebook.
Now this is loco moco nui loa...check out this video on how to prepare loco moco that has been kicked up a notch or two by the Kaukau Kings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQZ86V-kfF8
Reply author: slipry1
Replied on: 05/13/2011 09:25:09 AM
Message:WOWZER!!! Das' da bes' - onolicious! Where do I sign up?
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 05/14/2011 06:07:15 AM
Message:That was quite the documentary. Warning: Do not watch while hungry! Out in Duvall, WA, Benny Lagmay useta to make "haole" loco moco: hashbrowns, bratwurst, sausage gravy, and a fried egg. It was ONO!
Eh, Ed, you getting ideas?
Reply author: walterotter
Replied on: 05/14/2011 10:28:29 PM
Message:nah Braddah Dook
don't matter to me, here in the shires I don't go much on english as she's spoke on the bbc all cucumber sandwiches and darjeeling, I'm more at home where everyone is themselves and speaks in the tongue dey prefer, mine is part Mad Hatter's Tea Party peppered with Huck Finn on the way to river as far from Widder Douglas as he can get.
One time it was Christmas in Clapham with my daughter and we wuz in a ramshackle Carribean shop on the high street near Brixton buying herbs and spices for jerk chicken and the proprietor points up at a string of pictures, Bob Marley, Michael X and others I don't remember and he says these are the kings of my kingdom and I says 'I should hope so would have been awful disapponted if you'd hung a picture of our prime minister up there except by his feet . . .'
He laughed, I made a new friend . . .
Mikequote:
Originally posted by sirduke58
Does our posting in "Broken English" make you feel like you're being excluded from the
conversation?
Malama pono
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 07/30/2011 3:05:45 PM
Message:K'den! Wat you tink? Can? I know get ukupaila stuffs fo' talk story. No shame! Recipes, comedy, jokes, embarrassing kine stuffs, school kine stuffs, positive-character building items (eh, no ack!). You guys jus' nevah wen try fo' t'ink! What would Aunty say? Jus' press!
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 07/31/2011 08:17:46 AM
Message:I goine chrai tink up ono kine story fo u buggahs, bu' stay empty da po'o. So onli get one small kine recipe tip. Wen you like make ono kine laulau, chrai put on manini kine piece of green papaya, wid plenny white sap, touching da pua'a. Dat enzyme onli work wen da temperature jus so- 160 liddat. So wen da buggah heat real slow, like in da imu, stay jus da right temperature fo long time, and da meat she melt into one liquid. Wen get plenny niu (coconut cream) in dere, da liquid pua'a and da niu goine mix an firm up wid da taxture of Spam liddat, but so ono! (I no like Spam...)
Pololu lu'au, nui, pua'a, papaya, ulu, kalo, green mai'a, one garlic, sea salt, mebbe one soaked shiitake mushroom- emu da buggahs wid plenny ti leaf, no moa banana stump, fo da smoke ti leaf flavah- ti root in da bottom fo dessert- brah, broke da mout already! I like go home, try make um...
Edit- wrap da buggahs in tin foil, straight in da rubbish dey go- junk, dat!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/31/2011 09:19:07 AM
Message:Can use green papaya for any kine tenderaizah -- it get papain, an enzyme what Adolph's Tenderaizah made from. Can also use it if you get one bug bite, moskeetoz, beez, you know dakine. use piece of green papaya or make paste out of Adolph's, goin' for suck da poizzen lidat. Nomo red or itchy.
I going get me some laulau next week, garanz. The real stuff. Maybe one church windward side go have fundreizah.
PS: same enzyme used in contact lens cleaning the protein stuff.
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 07/31/2011 1:21:50 PM
Message:My unko used to use da papaya leaf fo' help tendahrize his smoke meat.No ax me how becuz da buggah no like tell how. Witch remind me. Is it evry we'a o'a ony Big Island we'a da peepo wit da recipe purposely leave out one ingredamint so da ting no come out like theirs? Das da sly lobo way fo' no look chicken shirt while being chicken shirt. Bwuahahahaha. Small kine sabotage
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 07/31/2011 2:14:33 PM
Message:Peepo all ova neva like tell all da secrets. How else you going be da one what makes da wirl's best jambalaya or da wirl's best gandule rice?
And, by the way, if you left something out of the won bok salad recipe you wen give me, no mattah, was still ono and everyone loved it! Broke da mout'.
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 07/31/2011 5:28:59 PM
Message:Nah I no hold back wit' da recipes I give away. Cooking jalike music is all about da timing. Can get all da ingredamints but if da timing junk den da ting goin' taste junk. Music, you can get all da right notes all in da right places but if your timing junk den a buggah goin' sound junk. Den of course you gotta get heart.....cooking & music junk if nomo.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 08/01/2011 07:18:17 AM
Message:Wat, Duke, you tink I wen go leave somting out? Mebbe dat buttahfish? Mebbe sweet potato? Mebbe ni'oi? Oa was it da Spike I like pu' insai?
Hea da scoops- I like make dis kine in da jungle, plenny miles from da ka'a an da store. I lazy buggah, nevah like carry much obbah dere. So da recipe stay like i make um, mosly wid da kine i find on da aina. But true dat, stay pleeny moa can pu insai.
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 08/01/2011 2:57:11 PM
Message:Nah Chris da tawt of you holdin' out nevah even cross da mind hahaha. My maddah who stay live Laupahoehoe (O'a as da residents say "Lapahoe") said da peepos ode'a famous fo' leave out one ingredamint. Fo dem az jalike one badge of honor if dey make da bestest version of one dish......"Eh you bin taste dakine's tofu salad? Soooooome good!!!!" den "I bin chrai make'um but da buggah no taste da same, ahdunno hacome"
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 08/01/2011 3:30:20 PM
Message:Eh, Duke, Chris, Aunty Wanda! Not ony "Lapahoe" peepo leave out one ingredament. Ye'as ago I wen go one polka festival. Had one Slovenian guy, Stanko, stay cooking on da grill-- da bugga was doing oysters, bratwurst an' some sausage kine stuffs. I wen ax, "Eh, Stanko, what dat?" He wen tell, "Tschewaptschitschi!" (Slovenian guys like da consonants like local peepo like vowells). I wen ax, "Hahhhhn? Wot get insai?" He wen tell, "Biff, lamb, garlic, hahahahahahhaha!" I wen ax again, same kine answer. Bumbye I found one recipe, was beef, lamb, pork all ground up wit' as much garlic as you could stand, liddobit onion, Tabasco, oregano, shape into logs an' grill'em. Garnish wit' sauerkraut o'a yogurt wit' garlic insai fo' one dipping sauce. Was ono. I had to do homework fo' dat recipe, Stanko wen leave out couple t'ree ingredaments.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 08/01/2011 5:54:51 PM
Message:Stanko wen geev you lessons wun (da t'umb) & two (da vamp), but not lesson t'ree!
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 08/03/2011 10:46:56 AM
Message:Duke,
Das da kine I make Laupahoehoe side- bu' das Laupahoehoe Nui, not da same as Laupahoehoe town. Dat town stay North Hilo, bu' oua ahupua'a stay Hamakua side, almos to Kohala.
Key den, I goine tell um. Ovah dere we get one special kine kalo, tase almos like mo'a oa some kine meat. And das da secret ingredient.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 08/04/2011 03:30:41 AM
Message:Mus' be somet'ing in da soil.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 08/04/2011 5:32:12 PM
Message:Kay den, get one small kine change of subject, an remembah, I nevah like offend no one wid dis- jus da trut is all. Ebryone stay Hawai'i like be one Hawaiian, tradishonal kine, ancestah stay long time, full on cultural, all liddat, bu' da buggahs all coconut- brown outsai, white on da insai. Alldatime I like get some guys come stay on da ahupua'a, live tradishonal style moa oa less, put up one tatched hale and plant da lo'i. Some plenny guys like come holoholo, fly in one choppah, plenny coolah, plenny ice, plenny grines, da lamp and da stove an some plenny garbage too, an mos important, plenny beah. Den wen da ice she melt, oa moa like da beah stay pau, dey goine call dat choppah wid da cell phone and hele back to da ka'a, da stoah, dat refrigerator, and da montly check. Coconut kine.
So hea da question- wea stay da kine Hawaiians dat like go back to da tradishions? Oa dose wid Hawaiian heart? No moa already? Cause if get, I like fine um, tak story...
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 08/06/2011 4:55:00 PM
Message:Eh, Chris, nobody like go live hard kine if get house, plumbing, kitchen, bed, I-Pod, guitar, li'dat. Try t'ink how hard fo make guitar strings, picks even, if you no moa store. Seem like peepo like da "practical" kine. Tradition is moa how fo treat peepo, how fo carry memories of kupuna insai li'dat. My opinion and $3.50 will enable you to purchase a latte at any convenience store in the Puget Sound area.
Reply author: Retro
Replied on: 08/06/2011 5:52:28 PM
Message:If Chris comes up this way, he won't need the $3.50, cause we'll buy 'em for him!
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 08/07/2011 06:10:22 AM
Message:I tinking get pleeny guys stay live on da beach dese daze, wen one hale O'ahu side cost ovah half a million. Mebbe somma dem guys like try old kine style. An we nevah too strickt- can paddle Waipi'o in hour an a half, trade some opihi oa da smoke meat foa dose strings. Mebbe sell handicraft, oa da kava, if like kala foa one new ukulele liddat. Dis place nomoa "hard kine"- moa like "Summertime", an da living is easy...
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 08/07/2011 06:12:25 AM
Message:"If Chris comes up this way, he won't need the $3.50, cause we'll buy 'em for him!"
Oh, an tanks fo dat! You nevah knows...
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 08/08/2011 02:44:48 AM
Message:Eh Chris get planny kanakas dat tawk da tawk but no can walk da walk.Not so much dat dey "Coconuts"....brown ousai & white insai. Dey ste mo' like one "Milk Niko" ice creem...lila bit hahd on da ousai but soft in da middo.Hahahaha.
Livin' dakine ancient kine style I wood chance 'um if I no was too ugly looking in one malo
I tink so Kory is rite. If no can live in da old style ad lease can treet peepo in da old style.Wit' love, rizpeck & aloha
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 08/08/2011 03:04:26 AM
Message:I tink dat malo, she come latahs- foa da haad core tradishonal braddahs. Mosly tinking da 'ai and da hale foa statahs- a couppla kalo roots goine get you plenny outfit at my favorite fashon stoa- Goodwill. Bu' get plenny grines, plenny tatch, all kine stuffs you need ovah dere. Mebbe byembye 90% tradishonal. Wid da solah panel on da tatch hale- "take the best, leave the rest".
Me, I suppose foa use dat CPAP too, bu' no can sleep. I wen chrai um foa six mont, den las week I wen sen um back. I no like!
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 08/12/2011 5:28:05 PM
Message:K'den! Now serious kine! Favorite FRIED RICE recipes! Wot!? You t'ink yoa recipe spashul! Prove it!
Reply author: sirduke58
Replied on: 08/12/2011 10:33:04 PM
Message:I nomo fried rice recipe but ereboddeh need fo 'no dat get 2 difrent kine. Get da good one from any decent Pake restrant, no mattah if das da "slimp flied lice" o'a da "Char Sui flied lice" all ono but typiko of Pake food wayah you hungry again one owah latah.
Da oddah type is da "leffovah rice from da nite befo, make breckfis fried rice befo' she spoil" kine. Dis one is da homemade variety and no mattah wat is junk!!!!
Mebbe da Pake use difrent kine rice dat no stuck togeddah. Witch make 'um mo' hahd fo' pick up wit da chopsticks if you ax me. We eretime grumbo how lidabit char sui or shrimp get in da rice but da ratio work.If da buggah get too much bells & whistles jalike not so good fo' eat wit' your main dish.
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 08/13/2011 05:32:42 AM
Message:Almos' erry time I stay go Kona Kitchen, I get one order fried rice an' scrambled eggs wit one side Podagee sausage. Dem guys put Spam, char siu an' green onion. Liddo bit oyster sauce. Ono. Duke, I know what you mean. If no mo nuff rice to meat ratio, den should call'em "fried meat".
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 09/04/2011 02:02:11 AM
Message:Always respect Aunty:
http://vimeo.com/27740396
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 09/04/2011 06:17:00 AM
Message:Aunty's presence assures a measure of civilizaton.
Reply author: ypochris
Replied on: 09/04/2011 5:44:09 PM
Message:The best part was, I don't have sound. So I had to read the subtitles and interpret them back into da kine. Good fun!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 11/25/2011 03:18:55 AM
Message:A lovely story for you: 'Ekolu Keiki Pua'a by Kent Bowman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjACGqOIMlo
Reply author: thumbstruck
Replied on: 11/25/2011 06:44:27 AM
Message:Too good, Wanda!
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 12/26/2011 09:16:08 AM
Message:Merry Christmas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3bclMuFwuE
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 01/23/2012 02:13:04 AM
Message:This is amusing. Remember, I have had NOTHING to do with the title to the video. If it were me, I'd wash the young man's mouth out with soap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUj5t4YevDs
Reply author: wcerto
Replied on: 02/07/2012 03:55:50 AM
Message:Lessons for those deficient in the language:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TmrQMZ3vXk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPVbX1wuztg&feature=related
And this one is my favorite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLmfQSR3EI0&feature=related
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