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rossasaurus
Lokahi

USA
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Posted - 01/08/2005 :  11:06:18 PM  Show Profile  Send rossasaurus a Yahoo! Message
Can anybody tell me if Holei was recorded by Hui Ohana, and if so which LP is it on? Or is it the version Dennis does on "All Hawai`i Stand Together" ? Don't see it on any of their CD's.

thanks,
Ross

Sarah
`Olu`olu

571 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2005 :  03:57:22 AM  Show Profile
Aloha e Ross,

huapala.org notes this for Holei lyrics:

"Source: Cody Pueo Pata CD "E Ho`i Nä Wai" Translated by Pueo Pata - Originally recorded by Hui Ohana with a later version by Dennis Pavao, research by Pueo Pata uncovered these lyrics. This poem refers to the booming and swelling seas of Kalapana. Visit Cody Pueo Pata at: www.ululoa.com for other lyrics from his CD"

I think the song may also sometimes be known as "Kalapana" or "`O Kalapana".

Hope this helps.

aloha,
Sarah
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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a

USA
1597 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2005 :  11:59:00 AM  Show Profile
If I remember correctly,

This last June, at George's Workshop, Ledward told us that he
wrote the basic word's down from some "grafitti" that was
written on one of the cliffs off the beach there in Kalapana.

He said that he did not know who had scrawled the poem on
the cliff, but he and Hui O'hana fleshed it out and put it to
music, and Dennis sang it first.

I did not find it on any of my eight Hui Ohana CD's or on the
two Dennis Pavao CDs that I have. Maybe I will check Cynthia's
Vinyl collection out in the Garage sometime, she has a few that
have not been re-issued yet.


Mahope Kākou...
...El Lorenzo de Ondas Sonoras

Edited by - Lawrence on 01/09/2005 12:00:11 PM
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a

USA
1918 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2005 :  5:24:53 PM  Show Profile
Got the following info from a friend:

Not recorded by Hui `Ohana (according to Led, because Dennis didn't like the song). But it's on the debut vinyl from the group "Na Leo Kane O Punahele" -- Led, Alika Odom and Bernard Kalua -- who went on to be known as Led Kaapana & I Kona.

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ohanabrown
Lokahi

281 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2005 :  5:55:53 PM  Show Profile
Aloha, Lawrence

I'm sure it was the group called, "Ohana Serenaders" that recorded the song even before Ikona. They were from kalapana, there were 4 members in the band, 2 of them are Led's, sisters, rhoda is one not sure of the other sister, and there bass player is my good friend, kalani kekona, I can't remember the other persons name.

I think they recorded back in the late 70's, early 80's. I remember my friend kalani telling me he was coming out with an album with a group called, ohana serenaders, and that he wrote a song called, "Haleakala" that he sings on that album. I remember seeing and hearing the album, the songs that took of on that album was, Haleakala, and Holei.

Aunty Marie can you check and see what happen to there recordings. ( album?) Ohana Serenaders.

Me Ke Aloha
Kevin

Kevin K. Brown
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ohanabrown
Lokahi

281 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2005 :  5:58:58 PM  Show Profile
Sorry, Na Leo Kane O Punanhele, came before Ikona, and Holei was still recorded before, Na Leo Kane.

Malama Pono
Kevin

Kevin K. Brown
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a

USA
1918 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2005 :  05:45:49 AM  Show Profile
Re: Ohana Serenaders
Sorry to say, but none of their recordings made it past vinyl/cassette format.

Re: Holei
I'm gonna call Led at home tonight and see if he can shed more light on this...for da truth-seeking taropatchers!

Auntie Maria
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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a

USA
1597 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2005 :  07:34:03 AM  Show Profile
Yes, the above stuff jives with what I remember. Led did
indicate that Hui Ohana did not record it first, although
he did not say why. I got the impression that Dennis P.
recorded it first, but wether it was with H.O. was not
clear. He did not mention his sisters in this regard, but
that may have just slipped his mind.

Sure, see what Led says about it to flesh out the history!


Mahope Kākou...
...El Lorenzo de Ondas Sonoras
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MahinaM
Lokahi

USA
389 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2005 :  1:51:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit MahinaM's Homepage
Aloha Ross:

The version of Holei that I have (and love) is on Dennis Pavao's "All Hawaii Stands Together" cd (track #11). I don't know who officially gets credit for writing/composing it, but it's such a beautifully arranged mele with Dennis singing it so wonderfully.

Maggie
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a

USA
1918 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2005 :  8:24:23 PM  Show Profile
The whole "Holei" story...straight from Led...

Mama Tina had a painting of Kalapana in their house, and below it was a poem about Kalapana (written by someone with last name "Kay" -- who received full credit for the lyrics).

Led liked the poem, composed a melody for it -- and added some text. Took it to Hui `Ohana for recording, but no one wanted it add it to the album at that time. Hui `Ohana never recorded the song.

So when Led joined with Alika Odom and Bernard Kalua as "Na Leo Kane O Punahele", they were the first to record the song -- and went on to be known as "Led Kaapana & I Kona" on their later albums.

Dennis Pavao recorded the song on his album, "All Hawai`i Stand Together"...no one has recorded it since then.

Auntie Maria
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Sarah
`Olu`olu

571 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2005 :  09:54:45 AM  Show Profile
Mahalo e Auntie Maria! Got it straight from the source -- thanks! And thanks to Ledward for being so accessible and sharing ... as he always is!

Aloha,
Sarah
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duke
Lokahi

USA
163 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2005 :  08:39:50 AM  Show Profile
Aloha

Cody Pueo Pata recorded a nice version of it on his CD "E Ho'i Na Wai" http://www.mele.com/v3/info/2130.htm (as mentioned above by Sarah -- aloha Sarah!)

Duke

Edited by - duke on 01/14/2005 08:44:54 AM
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Molly
Aloha

14 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2005 :  09:31:09 AM  Show Profile
I just have to say Aloha to Duke! (sorry for butting in)
Seeing all these campers here is making me miss our camp family even more! How's your slack key playin?
I got John's "Auntie's Rose Garden" down great now:))) LOVE playin it!
Are you coming back this summer? How is Maui? Seen any whales recently?
I wish you well:))
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duke
Lokahi

USA
163 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2005 :  09:36:30 AM  Show Profile
Aloha to you too Molly! (Just sent you an email)
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Molly
Aloha

14 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2005 :  10:24:21 AM  Show Profile
OMG! Duke, I just accidentally deleted your email without getting a chance to read it.
It was in my spam folder and I was deleting everything and then recognized you name- only too late!Please resend it, Mahalo!
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rossasaurus
Lokahi

USA
306 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2005 :  12:32:01 PM  Show Profile  Send rossasaurus a Yahoo! Message
Mahalo nui everybody! Wow, Taropatch at work!

Yeah, I've heard Dennis's version as well as pata's, both great.

Kevin, about Ohana Serenaders:

Could these be the album titles?

Kawena I Ka Hookumu Hou
Ku Like Ma Kou I Ho'okahi

don't know, maybe these are song titles???

Anyways, Sibyl's teacher has choreographed Holei and they've started to dance it lately, so I wanted to hear earlier versions to practice-up.

Thanks everybody!
Ross
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