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RWD
`Olu`olu

USA
850 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2007 :  2:07:18 PM  Show Profile
I saw an advertisement for Talapia fish at a restaurant (Red Lobster I think). I remember the name from my kid times in Hawaii. Isn't that a catfish that is found in a taropatch or pond in Hawaii?

Bob

da_joka
Lokahi

361 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2007 :  3:23:10 PM  Show Profile
Tilapia are not a type of catfish, but dey are found all ova in Hawaii (and odda places) in fresh water. Is da Red Lobster dish whole tilapia o jus da fillet? Me and my wife like jus steaming da whole ting wit shoyu, ginger and green onion ova rice ... mmm. ono.

If can, can. If no can, no can.
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kihoalukid
Lokahi

USA
290 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2007 :  3:41:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit kihoalukid's Homepage
Dont eat the ones in the Ala Wai tho.....

Lee
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2007 :  4:33:16 PM  Show Profile
At Disney World in Florida, long time ago they started farming tilapia right there at Epcot, to demonstrate how a market could be formed for such. Frankly, I never liked the taste of it, unless maybe I've always had old fish...way too strong tasting to suit me. The way I figured it, they made a market for a fish that was easy to grow but not necessarily good eating. Reminds me of sheephead or buffalo fish here in Lake Erie.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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da_joka
Lokahi

361 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2007 :  5:00:19 PM  Show Profile
i no blame you. i was raised tinking tilapia is dakine "rubbish" fish. But, hey, I'm pake, so we eat anyting eh? speaking of da ala wai, take a look at wat else comes from dea ...

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2003/Feb/14/ln/ln01a.html

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RJS
Ha`aha`a

1635 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2007 :  6:20:46 PM  Show Profile
Most talapia sold stateside is Mexican, typically fish farm raised.
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  12:42:58 AM  Show Profile
Wow - I never saw shrimp like that! Huge!!!!

In George Kahumoku's book, he talks about his father fishing for crabs in the Ala Wai canal, and took baby George with him when he was only 6 weeks old. Baby George fell into the canal and his dad didn't know. They finally found George after quite some time and he was lifeless and blue. Father ran home with the baby in his arms and through knowledge and a miracle, his tutu got life back into him. Get the book and give it a read if you haven't yet. George is a most excellent story teller.

25-30 years ago our Cuyahoga River caught fire due to all the oily sludge floating on top. Cleveland was the laughing stock of the world. Johnny Carson & all those kine made plenty jokes about it. Well, the river has been cleaned up tremendously since then and many fish are making a comeback in both the river and also Lake Erie into which it feeds. However, they still tell you to limit your intake of fish from the river due to heavy metals. One river west of here, the Black River in Vermilion, OH, the fish and other river critters are deformed with grotesque bumps and extra appendanges and stuff. Dept. of Natural Resources warns people not to eat anything taken out of the Black River, but plenty of migrant farm workers in that area picking tomatoes, poor from Mexico, and they eat them anyhow. Very scary.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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noeau
Ha`aha`a

USA
1105 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  7:56:13 PM  Show Profile
You don't want to eat anything from the Ala Wai now a days. And within the last year had one big sewerline break guess where the city put the overflow until they could get a tempo fix.

No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō.
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da_joka
Lokahi

361 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  04:50:14 AM  Show Profile
Didn't some guy fall in and die from getting an infection from da flesh eating virus and den all da beaches (ala moana and waikiki) was closed too afta da spill?

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hapakid
Luna Ho`omalu

USA
1533 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  05:09:18 AM  Show Profile  Visit hapakid's Homepage
I grew up in the Philippines and locals were encouraged to farm tilapia for the starving masses because it grows fast and will eat anything. I find the meat is pretty tasteless. But Filipinos will eat almost anything.
Jesse
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  06:42:41 AM  Show Profile
Yeah, someone fell in the canal and got scraped up and broke da skin and then got the terrible flresh eating bacteria thing. Necrotizing fasciitis. Also similar happened to Uncle Charlie Maxwell's daughter.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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Bd1
Lokahi

USA
114 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  2:17:07 PM  Show Profile
The Red Lobster here in Melbourne,Fla. make a Tilapia in a brown paper bag. Really taste's Ono. Back in the day I lived at 2107 Ala Wai. "1967-1972" Two years ago I saw my old apt. was still standing,It was old when I moved in. I don't think I would want anything from that stretch of water!!!!

BD1
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cmdrpiffle
`Olu`olu

USA
553 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2007 :  05:26:55 AM  Show Profile
I wouldn't touch the stuff. Most tilapia is actually from Vietnam, China, and Mexico. All of it is farm raised.
Tilapia is a 'nice' marketing name for the fish.

If any of have home aquariums, ya know what an Oscar is........

.......good eating that

my Poodle is smarter than your honor student

Edited by - cmdrpiffle on 07/29/2007 05:30:34 AM
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2007 :  05:37:33 AM  Show Profile
YIKES!!! Menpachi, what you got to say about this? You are our fish expert.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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markwitz
`Olu`olu

USA
841 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2007 :  05:53:37 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by cmdrpiffle

I wouldn't touch the stuff. Most tilapia is actually from Vietnam, China, and Mexico. All of it is farm raised.
Tilapia is a 'nice' marketing name for the fish.

If any of have home aquariums, ya know what an Oscar is........

.......good eating that


I'm not a big fan of Tilapia either, but even if it is in the same family as your "Oscar", it's definitely not the same species.

As for farm raised fish, almost all the trout, catfish, Atlantic salmon and lots of other seafood is farm raised.

"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
haunts me sleeping and waking."
Mark Twain
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markwitz
`Olu`olu

USA
841 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2007 :  06:03:42 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by cmdrpiffle

I wouldn't touch the stuff. Most tilapia is actually from Vietnam, China, and Mexico. All of it is farm raised.
Tilapia is a 'nice' marketing name for the fish.

If any of have home aquariums, ya know what an Oscar is........

.......good eating that



From this link
http://ag.arizona.edu/azaqua/ata.html



Welcome to the World Wide Web site for information regarding the American Tilapia Association. This Web page provides access to information about the fish which is the fastest growing aquaculture crop in the United States and around the world. We are pleased to provide this information to those already producing tilapia for the food industry, for those interested in joining the industry and to potential customers and consumers of farm-raised tilapia.

Tilapia, several species and their hybrids of Oreochromis, are the second most important group of farm raised fish in the world. Tilapia farming and consumption are rapidly increasing in the US. Tilapia is now the fifth most popular seafood consumed in the United States. The ATA is dedicated to the development of a profitable and sustainable industry. Our member producers and scientists wish to protect the aquatic environment while providing high quality fresh fish to the American consumer.

"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
haunts me sleeping and waking."
Mark Twain
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