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Pupule

USA
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Posted - 02/10/2012 :  04:47:19 AM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Apologies in advance if this is opening up a can of worms. I was just thinking that with all the noise over the Hawaiian Music category over the past few years, perhaps this gives additional perspective. Speaking for myself, I am still hoping "Hawaiian" wins.

From www.digitalmusicnews.com

54 Artists That Somehow Never Won a Grammy...

And you thought the list for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame was bad. But here it is, a list of 54 incredibly influential artists that have never won a Grammy (though in fairness, some have been retroactively inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame). The 54th Annual Grammy Awards kicks off this weekend.

1. The Doors
2. Queen
3. Jimi Hendrix
4. Led Zeppelin*
5. The Who
6. Tupac Shakur
7. Snoop Dogg
8. Bjork
9. Chuck Berry
10. The Grateful Dead
11. Diana Ross
12. Nas
13. The Beach Boys
14. Bob Marley
15. Janis Joplin
16. Buddy Holly
17. Notorious B.I.G.
18. (Eric B. &) Rakim
19. Rush
20. Run D.M.C.
21. Guns n' Roses
22. Boston
23. Sam Cooke
24. Talking Heads
25. The Ramones
26. The Everly Brothers
27. Patti Smith
28. Public Enemy
29. Sly & the Family Stone
30. The Sex Pistols
31. Parliament &/or Funkadelic
32. The O'Jays
33. Creedence Clearwater Revival
34. The Stooges
35. Motley Crue
36. Kiss
37. Deep Purple
38. Journey
39. Jackson Browne
40. The Pretenders
41.Toby Keith
42. New Order
43. Depeche Mode
44. Tiesto
45. The Kinks
46. Morrissey
47. The Smiths
48. ABBA
49. Dusty Springfield
50. Teddy Pendergrass
51. Oasis
52. Curtis Mayfield
53. The Byrds
54. ZZ Top

*Both Page & Plant have separately won awards, but not as Led Zeppelin.

Andy

Retro
Ahonui

USA
2368 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2012 :  07:17:07 AM  Show Profile  Visit Retro's Homepage  Reply with Quote
...and it's a good mix of genres here. From Pop to Rap, Rock to Soul, many artists have had thriving careers & critical acclaim without receiving a statue from their peers.

But what does that say about anything? We've hashed through our personal interpretations repeatedly, and we will do so again.

Artists don't create their art just so they can win awards - but it's certainly nice to receive peer recognition anyway. The people who get most upset about how the process works are those who aren't even part of the process: music lovers who are knowledgeable and passionate about what they like (and don't like). I see nothing wrong with that.

It's when people spend their energy insulting artists they don't know, simply because their preferred favorites didn't win an award, that I get disturbed. It's a misguided waste of passion.

(The Monkees never took home a Grammy, and I still like their recordings. They are one of the best examples of corporate music-biz manipulation of popular tastes, and they didn't win squat - assuming you don't count when Michael Nesmith won the first-ever Grammy for Music Video of the Year in 1981, for his innovative "Elephant Parts." I wouldn't have included them on the list above, though, as they were not "incredibly influential," but they were certainly commercially successful - and they still didn't take home any little gold gramophones. It ain't always about "who you know" or "how to play the system.")



(Worms don't belong in cans anyway.)
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Retro
Ahonui

USA
2368 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2012 :  09:57:16 AM  Show Profile  Visit Retro's Homepage  Reply with Quote
While we are having fun with lists, here (http://www.spin.com/gallery/award-tour-21-times-grammys-saluted-underground), SPIN Magazine points out 21 examples where the Grammy Awards celebrated the underground, the alternative, the independent - rather than just the big corporate music machine.

1975: David Bowie presents an award to Aretha Franklin… and she totally snubs him
1979: Elvis Costello nominated for Best New Artist
1984: Lester Bangs nominated for Best Album Notes for the Fugs' 'Greatest Hits'
1984: Robert Rauschenberg helps Talking Heads win their first Grammy
1987: Beastie Boys act like a$$holes
1990: The most alt-leaning Best New Artist nominees ever! (Soul II Soul, Tone Loc, Neneh Cherry, Indigo Girls. Sadly, they went with Milli Vanilli.)
1991: Sinead O'Connor wins the first Alternative Album Grammy, beating the Replacements
1992: REM beats out Bob Dylan, Billy Joel, Dire Straits and Garth Brooks for Best Short Form Video
1993: Nine Inch Nails says "fist f**k" in a song, win a Grammy for it
1993: Arrested Development win Best New Artist
1995: Rollins Band play "Liar" in tuxes
1996: Pearl Jam do their weird non-acceptance speech
1997: The Fugees defeat 2Pac for Best Rap Album
1998: Skeleton Key nominated for Best Recording Package
1998: Los Fabulosos Cadillacs win the first Best Latin Rock/Alternative Album award
2003: Dave Grohl, Bruce Springsteen, Little Steven, and Elvis Costello perform “London Calling” as a Clash tribute
2005: Basement Jaxx win Best Dance/Electronica Album
2005: Arcade Fire nominated for their first Grammy
2008: Feist's "1, 2, 3, 4" nominated for Best Solo Pop Performance
2009: Radiohead play with the USC Marching band
2011: Oh No Ono nominated for Best Record Packaging
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2012 :  10:56:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Once you got past David Bowie & Aretha, I never heard any of the others music. Oh wait, I have heard Dylan and Billie Joel.

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Malama pono,
Wanda
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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a

USA
1597 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2012 :  2:05:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

How can Talking heads be on the "never won a Grammy list" and also on the other list as "1984: Robert Rauschenberg helps Talking Heads win their first Grammy??"

Some lists are more equal than others, right?


Mahope Kākou...
...El Lorenzo de Ondas Sonoras
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Retro
Ahonui

USA
2368 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2012 :  9:42:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit Retro's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lawrence


How can Talking heads be on the "never won a Grammy list" and also on the other list as "1984: Robert Rauschenberg helps Talking Heads win their first Grammy??"

The band never won a Grammy. The headline was inaccurate: Robert Rauschenberg won the Grammy for Best Album Packaging in 1984 for his work on the limited-edition version of Talking Heads "Speaking in Tongues."
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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
2166 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2012 :  06:31:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Acceptance by friends and family is more to be desired. They accept you inspite of your flaws and quirks. Strangers only know what is marketed, they don't really know you at all.
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chistoso
Aloha

38 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2012 :  11:53:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone have a list of Artists That Somehow Never Won a Hoku?
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2012 :  5:02:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gee, I never won a Grammy. Does that mean that I'm a famous musician?

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Retro
Ahonui

USA
2368 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2012 :  08:06:49 AM  Show Profile  Visit Retro's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slipry1

Gee, I never won a Grammy. Does that mean that I'm a famous musician?

Fame don't matter. The question is, are you "incredibly influential?" And for the right reasons, nyuk nyuk nyuk ...
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2012 :  11:30:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Retro

quote:
Originally posted by slipry1

Gee, I never won a Grammy. Does that mean that I'm a famous musician?

Fame don't matter. The question is, are you "incredibly influential?" And for the right reasons, nyuk nyuk nyuk ...


Yep,I'm famous because I serve as a bad example for everyone else.

keaka
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hwnmusiclives
`Olu`olu

USA
580 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2012 :  07:13:46 AM  Show Profile  Visit hwnmusiclives's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Retro

Artists don't create their art just so they can win awards
That is what we desperately want to believe about the artists we admire. But then there is the following from Jeff Beck's Facebook page last night:

Didn't win a Grammy. I'll have to get started on next year.

He won the previous year for "Best Rock Instrumental Performance" for (what I personally thought was a career high achievement) "Emotion & Commotion." I guess he thought he was going to win one every year?
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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a

USA
1597 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2012 :  08:13:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


I think he was trying to be funny / satirical with that remark!


Mahope Kākou...
...El Lorenzo de Ondas Sonoras
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