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                      |  Posted - 02/10/2012 :  04:47:19 AM             
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           	| Apologies in advance if this is opening up a can of worms.  I was just thinking that with all the noise over the Hawaiian Music category over the past few years, perhaps this gives additional perspective.  Speaking for myself, I am still hoping "Hawaiian" wins. 
 From www.digitalmusicnews.com
 
 54 Artists That Somehow Never Won a Grammy...
 
 And you thought the list for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame was bad.  But here it is, a list of 54 incredibly influential artists that have never won a Grammy (though in fairness, some have been retroactively inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame).  The 54th Annual Grammy Awards kicks off this weekend.
 
 1. The Doors
 2. Queen
 3. Jimi Hendrix
 4. Led Zeppelin*
 5. The Who
 6. Tupac Shakur
 7. Snoop Dogg
 8. Bjork
 9. Chuck Berry
 10. The Grateful Dead
 11. Diana Ross
 12. Nas
 13. The Beach Boys
 14. Bob Marley
 15. Janis Joplin
 16. Buddy Holly
 17. Notorious B.I.G.
 18. (Eric B. &) Rakim
 19. Rush
 20. Run D.M.C.
 21. Guns n' Roses
 22. Boston
 23. Sam Cooke
 24. Talking Heads
 25. The Ramones
 26. The Everly Brothers
 27. Patti Smith
 28. Public Enemy
 29. Sly & the Family Stone
 30. The Sex Pistols
 31. Parliament &/or Funkadelic
 32. The O'Jays
 33. Creedence Clearwater Revival
 34. The Stooges
 35. Motley Crue
 36. Kiss
 37. Deep Purple
 38. Journey
 39. Jackson Browne
 40. The Pretenders
 41.Toby Keith
 42. New Order
 43. Depeche Mode
 44. Tiesto
 45. The Kinks
 46. Morrissey
 47. The Smiths
 48. ABBA
 49. Dusty Springfield
 50. Teddy Pendergrass
 51. Oasis
 52. Curtis Mayfield
 53. The Byrds
 54. ZZ Top
 
 *Both Page & Plant have separately won awards, but not as Led Zeppelin.
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                | RetroAhonui
 
 
                USA2368 Posts
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                      |  Posted - 02/10/2012 :  07:17:07 AM       
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                      | ...and it's a good mix of genres here.  From Pop to Rap, Rock to Soul, many artists have had thriving careers & critical acclaim without receiving a statue from their peers. 
 But what does that say about anything?  We've hashed through our personal interpretations repeatedly, and we will do so again.
 
 Artists don't create their art just so they can win awards - but it's certainly nice to receive peer recognition anyway.  The people who get most upset about how the process works are those who aren't even part of the process: music lovers who are knowledgeable and passionate about what they like (and don't like).  I see nothing wrong with that.
 
 It's when people spend their energy insulting artists they don't know, simply because their preferred favorites didn't win an award, that I get disturbed.  It's a misguided waste of passion.
 
 (The Monkees never took home a Grammy, and I still like their recordings.  They are one of the best examples of corporate music-biz manipulation of popular tastes, and they didn't win squat - assuming you don't count when Michael Nesmith won the first-ever Grammy for Music Video of the Year in 1981, for his innovative "Elephant Parts."  I wouldn't have included them on the list above, though, as they were not "incredibly influential," but they were certainly commercially successful - and they still didn't take home any little gold gramophones.  It ain't always about "who you know" or "how to play the system.")
 
 
 
 (Worms don't belong in cans anyway.)
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                | RetroAhonui
 
 
                USA2368 Posts
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                      |  Posted - 02/10/2012 :  09:57:16 AM       
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                      | While we are having fun with lists, here (http://www.spin.com/gallery/award-tour-21-times-grammys-saluted-underground), SPIN Magazine points out 21 examples where the Grammy Awards celebrated the underground, the alternative, the independent - rather than just the big corporate music machine. 
 1975: David Bowie presents an award to Aretha Franklin… and she totally snubs him
 1979: Elvis Costello nominated for Best New Artist
 1984: Lester Bangs nominated for Best Album Notes for the Fugs' 'Greatest Hits'
 1984: Robert Rauschenberg helps Talking Heads win their first Grammy
 1987: Beastie Boys act like a$$holes
 1990: The most alt-leaning Best New Artist nominees ever! (Soul II Soul, Tone Loc, Neneh Cherry, Indigo Girls. Sadly, they went with Milli Vanilli.)
 1991: Sinead O'Connor wins the first Alternative Album Grammy, beating the Replacements
 1992: REM beats out Bob Dylan, Billy Joel, Dire Straits and Garth Brooks for Best Short Form Video
 1993: Nine Inch Nails says "fist f**k" in a song, win a Grammy for it
 1993: Arrested Development win Best New Artist
 1995: Rollins Band play "Liar" in tuxes
 1996: Pearl Jam do their weird non-acceptance speech
 1997: The Fugees defeat 2Pac for Best Rap Album
 1998: Skeleton Key nominated for Best Recording Package
 1998: Los Fabulosos Cadillacs win the first Best Latin Rock/Alternative Album award
 2003: Dave Grohl, Bruce Springsteen, Little Steven, and Elvis Costello perform “London Calling” as a Clash tribute
 2005: Basement Jaxx win Best Dance/Electronica Album
 2005: Arcade Fire nominated for their first Grammy
 2008: Feist's "1, 2, 3, 4" nominated for Best Solo Pop Performance
 2009: Radiohead play with the USC Marching band
 2011: Oh No Ono nominated for Best Record Packaging
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                | wcertoAhonui
 
 
                USA5052 Posts
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                      |  Posted - 02/10/2012 :  10:56:27 AM     
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                      | Once you got past David Bowie & Aretha, I never heard any of the others music.  Oh wait, I have heard Dylan and Billie Joel. |  
                      | Me ke aloha
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                | LawrenceHa`aha`a
 
 
                USA1597 Posts
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                      |  Posted - 02/10/2012 :  2:05:59 PM     
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                      | How can Talking heads be on the "never won a Grammy list" and also on the other list as "1984: Robert Rauschenberg helps Talking Heads win their first Grammy??"
 
 Some lists are more equal than others, right?
 
 
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                      | Mahope Kākou...
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                | RetroAhonui
 
 
                USA2368 Posts
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                      |  Posted - 02/10/2012 :  9:42:21 PM       
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                      | quote:The band never won a Grammy.  The headline was inaccurate: Robert Rauschenberg won the Grammy for Best Album Packaging in 1984 for his work on the limited-edition version of Talking Heads "Speaking in Tongues."Originally posted by Lawrence
 
 
 How can Talking heads be on the "never won a Grammy list" and also on the other list as "1984: Robert Rauschenberg helps Talking Heads win their first Grammy??"
 
 
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                | thumbstruckAhonui
 
 
                USA2189 Posts
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                      |  Posted - 02/11/2012 :  06:31:16 AM     
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                      | Acceptance by friends and family is more to be desired.  They accept you inspite of your flaws and quirks.  Strangers only know what is marketed, they don't really know you at all. |  
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                | chistosoAloha
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 02/11/2012 :  11:53:05 AM     
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                      | Does anyone have a list of Artists That Somehow Never Won a Hoku? |  
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                | slipry1Ha`aha`a
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 02/11/2012 :  5:02:21 PM     
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                      | Gee, I never won a Grammy.  Does that mean that I'm a famous musician? |  
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                | RetroAhonui
 
 
                USA2368 Posts
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                      |  Posted - 02/12/2012 :  08:06:49 AM       
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                      | quote:Fame don't matter.  The question is, are you "incredibly influential?"  And for the right reasons, nyuk nyuk nyuk ...Originally posted by slipry1
 
 Gee, I never won a Grammy.  Does that mean that I'm a famous musician?
 
 
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                | slipry1Ha`aha`a
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 02/12/2012 :  11:30:57 AM     
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Retro
 
 
 quote:Fame don't matter.  The question is, are you "incredibly influential?"  And for the right reasons, nyuk nyuk nyuk ...Originally posted by slipry1
 
 Gee, I never won a Grammy.  Does that mean that I'm a famous musician?
 
 
 
 
 Yep,I'm famous because I serve as a bad example for everyone else.
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                | hwnmusiclives`Olu`olu
 
 
                USA580 Posts
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                      |  Posted - 02/13/2012 :  07:13:46 AM       
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                      | quote:That is what we desperately want to believe about the artists we admire.  But then there is the following from Jeff Beck's Facebook page last night:Originally posted by Retro
 
 Artists don't create their art just so they can win awards
 
 
 Didn't win a Grammy.  I'll have to get started on next year.
 
 He won the previous year for "Best Rock Instrumental Performance" for (what I personally thought was a career high achievement) "Emotion & Commotion."  I guess he thought he was going to win one every year?
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                | LawrenceHa`aha`a
 
 
                USA1597 Posts
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                      |  Posted - 02/13/2012 :  08:13:58 AM     
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                      | 
 I think he was trying to be funny / satirical with that remark!
 
 
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                      | Mahope Kākou...
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