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Admin
Pupule

USA
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Posted - 01/27/2010 :  05:10:58 AM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Has anyone seen this film? It's airing this week on PBS in New York so maybe somewhere near you too. Check your local listings.

www.pidginthevoiceofhawaii.com

Andy

wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2010 :  05:55:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a 6 minute preview of the film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJvu6_MJonM

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a

USA
1918 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2010 :  07:59:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This film was broadcast statewide on PBS Hawai`i late last year. Sure hope they run it again...love hearing pidgin spoken many, many folks here on Kaua`i (but rarely hear it when I'm on O`ahu, unfortunately).

Auntie Maria
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Hookani
Lokahi

232 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2010 :  10:17:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You gotta come one of our kani den Auntie Maria, you get all da pidgin you like.

Ho'okani

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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2010 :  12:10:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hookani

You gotta come one of our kani den Auntie Maria, you get all da pidgin you like.

Ho'okani



And swell fun time, too. And lots of aloha.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2010 :  2:04:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hookani

You gotta come one of our kani den Auntie Maria, you get all da pidgin you like.

Ho'okani


Not to brag, but I almost understood all da pidgen at the events last 2 weeks. No can speak 'em well, but diggin' 'em.

keaka
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da_joka
Lokahi

361 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2010 :  06:55:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
aww man. wot, I wen miss um hea in CA o wat? I no could find any info on wen/if dis ting goin pay again on PBS ova hea. Funny ting is dat I usually no trust da documentaries - but afta watching da 6 min into ting, all I like do is watch some-mo. Tanks fo sharing eh!

If can, can. If no can, no can.
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a

USA
1918 Posts

Posted - 02/25/2010 :  04:50:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This great film is being re-run on PBS Hawai`i tonight...uiha!! Setting my DVR!!

Auntie Maria
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www.kkcr.org - Kaua`i Community Radio
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a

USA
1918 Posts

Posted - 02/25/2010 :  04:52:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice article in today's Honolulu Advertiser about the film's origins:
http://tinyurl.com/ykyzez5

Auntie Maria
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da_joka
Lokahi

361 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2010 :  06:57:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I noticed dis show was on last night 11pm on KVIE Sacramento. Good was! Was interesting fo see all da different ways people look at da pidgin, from old folks, haoles, hapa kids, hawaiians, japanese, young kids. Da producer wen do one really good job talking about all da different issues dat we (and our parents and grandparents) had growing up in Hawaii - like how our maddah and faddah's neva like us talk liddat (but look, now I stay pau Grad school) and all da stigma dat people get wen dey talk pidgin. Was interesting seeing da Punahou kids talking about da pidgin dat da "public school" kids talk. Nowdays since I no mo HI ID anymo, my pidgin is da only way fo get all da kama`aina discounts!

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Peter Medeiros
`Olu`olu

546 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2010 :  08:23:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit Peter Medeiros's Homepage  Reply with Quote
E bradda, waz good da show? Wotchoo wen lern? I neva even no had won show yeh? I like go see won time get pidgin in hia education lidat. Would be so radical get plany smart peepo who only tok pidgin lidat, kenna spell too good, but dey get good minds. Oni problem iz dey always get iced out coz dey kenna tok good english, so dey get marginalized ( I lern diz won in college i wen get won hia education). Az won result da local guyz no like go speak pidgin, bumbai dey figuah goin go make ass. So wen you gotto tink about da fuchua fo you anden yo family (if you get one), mobetta no tok pidgin wea it can hurt you oa your job prospects. Wotchoo tink?
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2010 :  11:08:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I stay watch fo see if da stashun hea goin play da show, at least at a time I can watch. (See thread about how things can snowball to see why nomo TV recording options).

Hey while you guys stay wala`au bout da show ontop da TV, you no da Joka wen get one oddah son! Fo realz, Jr. Boy get one braddah...
Baby Elijah Philip Tenn was born at 1:35 am Tuesday 5/18 after an hour of labor.
Height: 18.5 in
Weight: 7 lb 10.4 oz

Hoh, I tink Tina lucky oni one owah labor. Hehe, Joka lucky, too.

Welcome baby Elijah. Congrats and all our aloha to Brandon, Tina and their growing `ohana.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a

USA
1055 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2010 :  5:59:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We can record on the bedroom TV, just not in the living room right now. But it's not too likely to be shown up here in the Land Of Homogenized Music.
Unko Paul

"A master banjo player isn't the person who can pick the most notes.It's the person who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello
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Menpachi Man
Lokahi

274 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2010 :  6:26:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Eh Professah Petah ... how u ste ma braddah? Eh, da guyz wid good mine, moa bedda dey go tok havahd fo da kine time. If dey ged good mine den dey can tok plenni foren language. Moa bedda dey go mek da efort no? Me, I wen go read poket book dikshunari and teesarus and plenni engleesh buks. I wen go lern joponee, french, an pa'ke ... anden ... dakine havahd kine engleesh. Ged tape recodah oa wot evah kine modern recodah u ged an go chai tok da language, hi volik kine way. I can tok mo beddah den 90% of haoles. No problem. So eef da loko guyz ste smat den mo beddah go chai sweech hit no? Go tok good wen goddah tok good ... go tok loko wen ste wid da braddaz an sistaz. Me, wen I wen go intavue, I tok 100 dollah werds. I can soun like havahd professah. Hehe but eh, wen I go home ... wid ma braddaz and sistaz an cuz's I tok regulah. Oddawize dey look at me funneh kine eh? ... like I won stooped hed. Anden wot? U teenk I go tok $100 werds wid da ole kupunas. Dey goin look ad me like I woz da stooped hed. All perspektive no? All relative hu da stooped hed. Plenneh keiki kine peejun no sound like fo real kine peejun to me, jalike plenneh modern Hawaiian musik no sound Hawaiian to me ... eh az how progress go no? I ole fut az y. Da keeds tell me, unko ... u godda ged wid da times. I tell em ... u stooped hed!

Anden plenni haoles an brits, da buggaz no can tok an rite so good. Eh no ged me wrong ged plenni smaht kine like Watson and Crick, Stephen Hawkings (my idol), Einstein, Laughlin, Tsui, Michio Kaku (I kala bline). Anden sum of da buggaz ... yea not all, oddawize I prejudice ... oni da stooped hed ones like critisize me fo toking peejun? Dey teenk dey smat but dey not so smat. Oa heeya, I corek plenni resumes, scientifik papaz, plenni proposals, plenni chattaz fo ged kala. I tell da haoles -- wot? no can rite engleesh? wot? u ste haole an u no can rite an tok good? az y hahd no? Hahahahaha ..... I tell em ... u stooped hed az y. Anden I tok fers genershun peejun coz I woz raze by fers generahun granmoddah, werk wid fers genershun plantashun werkaz, an tok wid fers generashun kanakaz. Anden I can tok havahd. So den, I not dat stooped hed coz I tok plenneh kine language.

Kden I pau ma stooped hed poss.

Edited by - Menpachi Man on 05/28/2010 8:05:38 PM
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noeau
Ha`aha`a

USA
1105 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2010 :  9:25:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow menpachi you ste alive liʻdat. Long time no read yu wurds on top dis place. I tink mos of us wen skul ste tok tree language. or moa. So das mo pretty gud den da haole only talk one kine language. As why I tink dey like pass only tok one kine language law. So dey no need fo lurn an oddah kine. Brah tanks fo your inputs liʻdat. You too bruddah Petah.

No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō.
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da_joka
Lokahi

361 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2010 :  09:45:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tanks eh Wanda :-) Hard fo post stuff nowdays - gotta do um in between kids screaming, diapahs, and feeding dem. By da time da cycle pau, gotta start all ova. lol.

If we treat pidgin like any odda language (cuz it is) den we gotta keep da language going cuz bumbai, goin jus die. I tink dat since da language always stay hooked up wit culture, keeping da pidgin alive goin keep da local culture going too. In grad school I wen give one of my talks in pidgin - hard waz. All I do is theory, get choke formulas, math and all kine physics. Good fo see dat nowdays get pidgin written down, so at least da ting stay frozen on da pepa. I had fo write my dissertation in good kine english, but da dedication page, all in pidgin man! Dey let us write um how we like no? I tink everybody should learn good english in school, at least enuff fo write and talk little bit, dat way can still get job an talk to da haoles on da mainland. BUT, I no tink we should stop kids from talking pidgin - cuz dass our culture, da way we tink and express wass inside. (I still tink in my head all in pidgin).

Shootz den! Nuff from me.

If can, can. If no can, no can.
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