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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
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 Posted - 07/04/2010 : 06:06:50 AM
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| Just a note: In backcycling, play the Vm of the chord you would normally play as a Vm6, not a Vm7. The effect is like a 9th chord. Thus: G7 to C becomes Dm6-G7-C. |
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nick_borho
Aloha
USA
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Posted - 07/17/2010 : 08:27:16 AM
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I learned the song in open D from Cyril a couple of years ago. I recall he said he played bass on the Gabby Band 2 recording of that song. I have also seen Makana do it in open D or E (same structure of tuning). The song can - and has been - done in several tunings. |
Nick Borho
Kona
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Momi
Lokahi
402 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2010 : 12:40:33 PM
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Funny that I wandered into this discussion - I've been trying to learn this song based on Bryan Tolentino's excellent version on "Ka `Ukulele Lele." Here's what I figured out last week (roughly - still a work in progress):
Bm7 E7 Bm7 E7 A C#m7 F#m7 (you could also play an A dim there)
Bm7 E7 Bm7 E7 A F A
Em7 A7 Em7
Am7 D7 Am7
Bm7 E7 Bm7 E7 A F A
[warning - key change]
Gm7 C7 (or C9) Gm7 C7 (or C9) F Am7 Cdim
Gm7 C7 Gm7 C7 F Db F
Cm7 F7 Cm7
Fm7 Bb7 Fm7
Gm7 C7 Gm7 C7 F Db F |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2010 : 1:15:27 PM
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Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
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bobby3dog
Akahai
USA
69 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2010 : 12:53:37 PM
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Aloha e Momi,
Thank you so much for sharing what you've learned, it's just what I needed and sounds really good in the open C tuning. I do not play ukulele but any slack key questions you might have, that I can answer, will ilicit an immediate response........guarantee!
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2010 : 08:18:53 AM
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| Eh, Momi. I stay Seattle now after a month on the road. Thanks for the chords. I agree. btw, the first set of changes, in A, are played in B11, and the second, in C, are played in C6 with a G on the top on the steel guitar. |
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 07:28:21 AM
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| Foget to say: On Jerry Byrd's recording, he shifts from A to C so Atta Isaacs can play his solo, then back to A for ending. |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2010 : 08:09:52 AM
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Originally posted by wcerto
This is on Alan Akaka's new steel guitar CD...Simply Steel - Songs of Old Hawai`i
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cllWVRwDV5A
Yeah, Wanda. Did you get it from Alan? If you see him (in any case, by all means, go to the Moana Terrace tormorrow night to see the Keave Family), say hi for me. This CD is a boon to all Hawaiian steelers. My favorite to play and hear is "Paradise Found(Hana)", which he helped me so much with. He includes the steel tuning on each cut. |
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
1051 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2010 : 11:28:51 PM
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This has been a challenge for me, which goes to the back burner every time.
I wrote out a Makana version...in music, but...
but am frustrated, fingerings seem a little challenging in F Wahine
still can't play it--so far!
done in F,C,E,G,C,E. if my memory works...Big maybe!
and was using 12/8 time to write the syncopated parts...
think I'll go back to the Gabby and Isaacs versions,
So, what original recording might be THE BEST WAY to start with the Old Masters...? |
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2010 : 07:08:53 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Kapila Kane
This has been a challenge for me, which goes to the back burner every time.
I wrote out a Makana version...in music, but...
but am frustrated, fingerings seem a little challenging in F Wahine
still can't play it--so far!
done in F,C,E,G,C,E. if my memory works...Big maybe!
and was using 12/8 time to write the syncopated parts...
think I'll go back to the Gabby and Isaacs versions,
So, what original recording might be THE BEST WAY to start with the Old Masters...?
On Jerry Byrd's version (History of the Hawaiian Steel Guitar is a good source CD) Atta Isaacs plays it in C, while Jerry plays it in A. The Gabby Pahinui Hawaiian Band, V2, has Gabby doing it, starting on guitar in C and coming in on steel half way (although it may be Atta, again, on slack key - some of that album was done in the studio, with Gabby overdubbing himself). |
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Konabob
`Olu`olu
USA
928 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2010 : 06:19:43 AM
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I have been trying to get Bryan's version down too. Thanks for the info~
quote:
Originally posted by Momi
Funny that I wandered into this discussion - I've been trying to learn this song based on Bryan Tolentino's excellent version on "Ka `Ukulele Lele." Here's what I figured out last week (roughly - still a work in progress):
Bm7 E7 Bm7 E7 A C#m7 F#m7 (you could also play an A dim there)
Bm7 E7 Bm7 E7 A F A
Em7 A7 Em7
Am7 D7 Am7
Bm7 E7 Bm7 E7 A F A
[warning - key change]
Gm7 C7 (or C9) Gm7 C7 (or C9) F Am7 Cdim
Gm7 C7 Gm7 C7 F Db F
Cm7 F7 Cm7
Fm7 Bb7 Fm7
Gm7 C7 Gm7 C7 F Db F
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Basil Henriques
Lokahi
United Kingdom
225 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2013 : 07:52:11 AM
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All the versions mentioned above are surreptitiously avoiding royalties to the original composer.. FWIW..
The Jerry Byrd version is far removed from the original, and it's probably only popular because the tab is so readily available.
Wrong in two respects, the totally unconnected intro (Actually and adaptation of the Andy Iona intro to "Getting Sentimental Over You" ... and also the misspelling of the COPYRIGHTED version's title.
In spelling it the way one would assume it's meant to be, the royalties will actually go to whomsoever recorded a version with that misspelled title. NOTHING will go to the original writers writers (Andrew Iona Long/Lew Pollock) SHAME on those concerned for that bit of devious copyright manoeuvring.
It's one of the classics from the 30’s that endured and became synonymous with Hawaiian Steel Guitars, and is the subject of the tablature in this June's issue of Aloha Dream .
The definitive version being the Jules Keliikuihonua Ah See version featured on so many broadcasts and also on the Capitol album “Waikîkî ” T772.
THIS one.
Recorded originally by Andy Iona and his Orchestra:
Song Title: How'd Ya Do
Performer: Andy Iona and his Orchestra
Record Company: Columbia
Label Number: 35846 (Alb C-39 7/8)
Country/City: United States / New York, NY
Publication Date: 1940-06-06
Matrix Number: LA 2243-A
NOTE: The correct title (Above), oft now misspelled as ‘How D’Ya Do’. (Deliberately ?)
The above version was an instrumental, later recordings
featured lyrics.
Read what I have to say and see the tab of the Jules' version HERE
All in all 'tis a Fine "How D'Ya Do" methinks.. |
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Edited by - Basil Henriques on 08/22/2013 04:51:03 AM |
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a
USA
1574 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2013 : 09:57:26 AM
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Titles cannot be "owned" by US copyright, sorry. You can use "Yesterday" or "Blue Hawai`i" for the title of your own composition with no risk. The copyright applies to the melody regardless of the title, and there's a rule about the number of consecutive notes that constitutes infringement. Enforcement is accomplished by civil action, so there must be a party with rights and sufficient motivation to bring suit. George Harrison could have given you more specific details based on his court experience.
This is expanded somewhat in the modern era by the automated tools used to enforce DMCA on sharing sites like YouTube.
And, of course, copyright is a national issue and varies by the jurisdiction.
Fran |
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2013 : 6:31:00 PM
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| Bas - I try to play as closely as I can Jules' version. I agree about Jerry's version. He even changed the tuning so he could get a chord at the end. |
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