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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a

USA
1051 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  02:52:37 AM  Show Profile
Ok, I'm not a rookie anymore, but there's still holes in my education.
What are the best recorded versions of "E Ku'u Morning Dew", for study and enjoyment?
And any tab or music available?
G

wdf
Ha`aha`a

USA
1153 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  11:41:37 AM  Show Profile
Well for me there are two versions that stand out (actually 3):
1.(&2) Ray Kane's version on his Punahele CD and he and Elodia on the That's Ki Ho`alu video.
3. Keola Beamer's haunting version on his Moe`uhane Kika CD and on Hawaiian Slack Key Guitar Masters, vol 1. Tab is available for this version at various places, one of which is: http://www.fretplay.com/tabs/b/beamer_keola/e_kuu_morning_dew-tab.shtml

Dusty
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wdf
Ha`aha`a

USA
1153 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  11:44:05 AM  Show Profile
I should also add Taropatch member, Bill Campbell's version on his Kaua`i on My Mind CD. It's a very nice version too.

Dusty
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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a

USA
1597 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  12:27:56 PM  Show Profile
I would also reccommend the Sons of Hawaii recording,
which is the original recorded version of this song.
Melody by Eddie Kamae and Words by Larry Kimura. This
was before Dennis Kamakahi joined the group and so
Gabby Pahinui was playing the guitar. I bought a CD
re-issue some years ago, but I will have to get back
to you on the title. The original SOH version is a
little more up-tempo than most folks play it these
days. Eddie's wife did an English translation of the
words into "counterpuntal english" and sometime later
Jay Laram added an interesting spoken prologue.


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OK - now I am home and can check my data. The re-release
I spoke of above is "The Best of the Sons of Hawaii" aparently
re-issued in 1995, originally issued in 1981. However, there
is no mention of the vintage of each cut, but I know that the
sheet music for Morning Dew was published in 1976 because
Cynthia bought a copy at Jack Wada Electronics on Kauai at that
time. And (now that I can check it), it WAS Dennis on lead
Guitar, with Eddie Kamae, Moe Keale, Joe Marshall, and David
Rogers. So there may be an earlier yet recording (between 76
and 81) extant. Eddie told me his wife had made an English
translation of the music, and that it had shown up on other
recordings, but I do not know if the below mentioned "Alone
Once More" is her translation, or someone else's but I think
the English that we like to sing (after each Hawaiian verse)
is her version. (Maybe Peter can shed some light on this).


Mahope Kākou...
...El Lorenzo de Ondas Sonoras

Edited by - Lawrence on 09/27/2004 11:11:34 PM
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Peter Medeiros
`Olu`olu

546 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  6:22:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit Peter Medeiros's Homepage
Hi Lawrence,
I think that Dennis is playing on the Sons of Hawaii recording to which you are referring. The twelve-string work on that album is not Gabby’s style and the Gabby Band was already going full tilt from 1971. This particular Sons album was produced by Eddie and was released about 1974 or 1975. If it isn’t Dennis playing, then it would be one of the two guitarists following Gabby’s leaving the group, Atta Issacs or Bobby Larrisson, but it also doesn’t sound like Atta either. This reincarnation of the Sons of Hawaii included Eddie on uke, Moe Keale singing lead, Joe Marshall on bass, and Feet Rogers on steel. Moe, Joe and Feet have all passed on.

In the spring of 1977, Sonny Chillingworth recorded the english lyric version “Alone Once More” on the Poki Records album entitled “Sonny”. Ozzie and I played on the album also; we played the instrumental break in D (Sevastopol) as a duet. Because it was so long ago I’m not sure if the arrangement included a modulation from G to D, or from C to D. Of course I’m biased but I think it was one of the prettier versions of the song.

Peter Medeiros
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cpatch
Ahonui

USA
2187 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  6:35:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit cpatch's Homepage  Send cpatch an AOL message
Aha...I knew "Alone Once More" sounded familiar! The lyrics completely threw me off track. Now that I listen to it again with "E Ku`u Morning Dew" in mind it's obvious, of course.

Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can.
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BreezePlease
Akahai

Japan
86 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  9:52:39 PM  Show Profile
That Poki recording was completely gone from the memory banks. Was it ever released in CD format? Craig, is that the vinyl or cassette version that you're listening to now?

Re the Son's version, wasn't there a period when George Kuo also played guitar with the group? Man, this is a hard period to recall with any acuity (and getting harder alla time)...

-dean
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cpatch
Ahonui

USA
2187 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  11:16:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit cpatch's Homepage  Send cpatch an AOL message
CD made from a cassette that I believe Sonny had transferred from vinyl and then marketed himself.

Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can.
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BreezePlease
Akahai

Japan
86 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  11:25:16 PM  Show Profile
That would be the last thing he recorded before Dancing Cat?

Absolutely green with envy.

-dean
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Reid
Ha`aha`a

Andorra
1526 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2004 :  10:36:16 AM  Show Profile
I am pretty sure that George Kuo played with the SOH. At least, he appears with Eddie and Dennis on the movies/videos that Eddie and Myrna made.

There is also another CD, entitled "Sonny", that is a compilation made in 1995 by Mahalo Records. It does not contain "Alone Once More", but still swell to listen to.

...Reid
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wdf
Ha`aha`a

USA
1153 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2004 :  11:53:22 AM  Show Profile
The Alone (Again) Once More version was recorded a couple of times by Melveen Leed. The folowing links give an interesting take on the origins of Morning Dew.
http://www.hulasource.com/melveenleed.html
http://www.geocities.com/dhc2020/h-ekuumorningdew.htm

Dusty
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Peter Medeiros
`Olu`olu

546 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2004 :  4:24:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit Peter Medeiros's Homepage
There should be absolutely no question about this; George Kuo was definitely a member of the Sons of Hawaii. He joined approximately in 1986, around the time Feet Rogers passed away. However, the guitarist is Dennis Kamakahi on the original recording of E Ku`u Morning Dew which was recorded about 1975. In 1975 George Kuo and Ozzie were both in my advanced classes in slack key at UH. I still have the class list from that particular enrollment.

The album entitled “Sonny” on Poki records (SP7-9025) was produced by the late Bill Murata, who also owned the record company and its affiliate corporation Tropical Music, Inc. Bill also produced the Hui Ohana, which included Dennis Pavao, Ledward and Nedward Ka`apana. The very able and talented Lea Uyehara inherited the corporation. She handles all of the legacy releases of Poki Records, in addition to the current releases and catalog of Tropical Music, Inc.
Peter Medeiros
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a

USA
1051 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2004 :  12:20:26 AM  Show Profile
Wow, this really is "Taropatch University".
But I think I wandered into a graduate level course!

Thanks-- and keep talkin'.
Guess I'm still a greenhorn, if not a rookie!
G
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wdf
Ha`aha`a

USA
1153 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2004 :  10:53:05 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Guess I'm still a greenhorn, if not a rookie!


...until it comes to the fiddle...WOW!!

Dusty
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kahealani
Akahai

USA
64 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2004 :  8:08:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit kahealani's Homepage
Lea Uyehara from Tropical Music came here to Hilo for a music conference this past Saturday, the 25th.
She was discussing the pros and cons about copyrighting and distributing your music. It was quite intereting!

Brittni Paiva
www.brittnipaiva.com
www.myspace.com/brittnipaiva
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a

USA
1574 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2004 :  11:49:11 AM  Show Profile  Visit Fran Guidry's Homepage
What were the cons? Registering copyright provides statuatory damage protection at very little cost, lead sheets are not required, and you can copyright several songs in a single application.

Fran

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