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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
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 Posted - 08/22/2007 : 07:33:06 AM
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Web site: http://www.hawaiisuperferry.com/the-experience/the-tradition/default.html
Here is information on the new super ferry. The web site gives pricing info; tells of do's and dont's and even has a clip of their theme song done by Brothers Cazimero. Didn't know they could do do-wop.
Three hours from O`ahu to Kaua`i or Maui. Once per day: to Kauai` at 3 p.m.; to Maui at 6:30 a.m. No Saturday trips to Kaua`i.
Got lounges and kaukau; video arcade and play area for keiki, and of course, the ubiquitous gift shop.
An alternative to inter-island flights.
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Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda |
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da_joka
Lokahi
361 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2007 : 08:25:39 AM
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| Funny, finally anodda way fo get between da islands, but now mo expensive and takes longer den flying (3 hrs vs 45 min+checkin time, an if you get seasick ... da channels are pretty rough. I tink I'll stick wit da air :-) |
If can, can. If no can, no can. |
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cpatch
Ahonui
USA
2187 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2007 : 12:05:32 PM
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| Not to mention the damage to the environment that has been discussed here before. |
Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can. |
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da_joka
Lokahi
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2007 : 4:56:36 PM
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| Their web site says that your car cannot have dirt or mud. Gotta be clean. The web site also says (and what else would they say?) that they are environmentally friendly and they explain on there how exactly they are environmentally friendly. It is WAY expensive if you take a car. Gotta pay for the car and all passengers. Also if you take a rental car, gotta have a notarized note lettah giving you permission to take their car off the island. Also if you take car, gotta show title and insurance. Don't rightly know if it is worth it, especially if you are prone to mal de mer. However, Sea Bands are a great product and a wonderful alternative to medication. |
Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda |
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da_joka
Lokahi
361 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2007 : 5:19:57 PM
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Hey Wanda,
It's so interesting, you allllll da way ova in Ohio, but still up to date wit da local (HI) news :-) Dass awesome! My family has a small (18 ft) fishing boat in Hilo. Everyone in my family, except my dad gets seasick :-( (to different degrees) I tink I get sick da second least in da family. Anyways, my stepmom tried a whole bunch of different "remedies" from putting li hing mui (salted plums) in her belly button, to da pressure point wrist bands and several other home remedies. None really worked. I tink dat dis is a good way to keep transportation live in da islands, especially afta 9/11, wen da airplane grounding pretty much ground da state to a halt. People stuck on different islands wit no way home ... but, since it's a 3 hour trip on da boat, it'll be pretty grueling. |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2007 : 5:53:45 PM
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Eh Joka - I swear by the Sea Bands. They are cheap, no medicine and they really work. I get car sick very easily. We've taken many cruises and I always wear them and never have gotten sick when others all around me were. Supposedly they work on accupressure. One time we went Martinque and took a land tour in a mini-van. I took my sea bands off because I figured on land I would not need them. Bruddah, I sure need them. I got so sick, I begged my friend to carry me back to the ship. As soon as I got back to our room, I put the sea bands back on and within 20 minutes I was feeling fine. The only time they did not work was when we went fishing at Nawiliwili. One of the other guys hooked a large striped marlin and when he was trying to land it, the guy driving the boat put it in reverse and was blowing all kinds of diesel smoke. Plus now the boat was bobbing back and fron, back and front instead of side to side. Paul and I both ended up very sick...very, very sick. Good thing they had plastic buckets on the boat. I had taken medication plus the sea bands. Auwe. But the guy caught the arlin about 80 lbs. I never saw such a big fish before. There was a guy from a restaurant waiting on the dock for the fish when we got back. We found out the captain keeps all the fish that get caught.
I have hear that if you clip a clothespin to your ear lobe or to the web between your thumb and figer that will help. I never tried that, but it sounds like accupressure as well. Ginger helps after you are sick, not a good preventative, though. |
Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda |
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Momi
Lokahi
402 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2007 : 6:47:17 PM
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I also swear by the sea bands. Retro and I took the Victoria Clipper from Seattle to (where else?) Victoria when the sea was pretty bad in the channel. Retro decided not to take dramamine on that trip, which he later regretted because he got very, very sick. I had the sea bands on, and while I was queasy during the rough portion of the trip (and got bruises on my arm from holding onto the seat rails for dear life), I was fine 30 minutes after we got off the boat and was able to enjoy the Chinese dinner we had that night with friends. Retro was better by then, but not great.
Retro's sister turned me onto an over-the-counter pill called meclizine hcl. It has brought me back from the brink more than once. Li hing ginger has worked for me on occasion before when I was feeling ill but not from motion. I don't know if you can get 'em any more, but the patches (scopalomine) have worked for me too. I'm a small person, so I should've cut my patch in half when Retro and I went on a short weekend cruise; I felt pretty loopy for most of the weekend (no comments please!), and my mouth was dry, but I never got seasick.
(Can tell my family must've been farmers, because we would have been terrible as fishermen. Both my parents get seasick too.) |
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dr. cookie
Lokahi
USA
299 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2007 : 7:22:33 PM
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Hi Momi!
There are a lot of people in the Pacific Northwest that would love you to tell more stories about Retro.
We are particularly interested in other moments of discomfort, embarassment, etc. Keep those good stories coming . . . we'll save 'em up for later use & abuse!
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Retro
Ahonui
USA
2368 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2007 : 7:41:53 PM
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Warning, Don --- I don't embarass easily. Now, YOU on the other hand...do you recall the Japanese vocabulary word she recently taught you? (Heh-heh-heh...)
FWIW, her story is absolutely true. I've suffered from motion sickness since sma'kid time, but the bands didn't seem to help me, so I'll take drugs. The meclizine she mentioned is also known as Bonine and Dramamine II (or Dramamine Less Drowsy.) It's an antihistamine. |
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noeau
Ha`aha`a
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2007 : 9:58:01 PM
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| Ferry for Hawaiian islands is cool. But they should check WA system no hassles about the car.. Of course the sound is pretty smooth but yoy can kick back and nap during the boaty ride and play music if you like. |
No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō. |
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dr. cookie
Lokahi
USA
299 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2007 : 09:34:29 AM
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OK Retro . . . I'll try to be good now (for at least a little while). See you this weekend!
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Pua Kai
Ha`aha`a
USA
1007 Posts |
Posted - 08/24/2007 : 01:36:10 AM
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I'll be very interested to hear some feedback when the ferry gets going. I took the ferry last fall up to the Sunshine Coast in Canada and thought it was really neat! The views were gorgeous, the service excellent; wouldn't have made sense not to take car. Hopefully the crossing would be much smoother for the big ferry in Hawai`i than the one from Molokai to Maui. I too get seasick; the bands don't work, but the Bonine does. I first ran across it in New Zealand as Sea Legs and until it came here, imported it from there. For me it works way better that Dramamine. Ahh yes, I'm a diver..... dive/sleep/dive/sleep.....
I wonder how much commercial traffic they excpect, and how much more/less expensive or what the market is vs shipping on barge or air freight. Interesting comment about cars/trucks have to be "clean".
It used to be that so many of the kids never got off their birth island until they were out of high school. I'm guessing this has changed now, but thought that the ferry would give a way for families to travel more. I wonder if you can get a "transfer" like for the bus system if you want to go from Maui to Kauai.... Yah, I know I could go read about it.... |
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RWD
`Olu`olu
USA
850 Posts |
Posted - 08/24/2007 : 02:37:03 AM
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...bumbai you goin rust out yo car.
Hey da_joka. You make me remember slang from my small kid days.
"Buckaloose" was good to hear again too.
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Larry Goldstein
Lokahi
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Posted - 08/24/2007 : 08:35:15 AM
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Here's my two cents from March, obivously dated:
Thank you Mark for your optimism and encouragement. Great post!
At the risk of being too political, but hopefully in the same spirit, may I also suggest folks write a letter demanding a full environmental impact statement before the Superferry is allowed to become a reality.
Concerns over the ferry are many, and they extend beyond just adverse effects to already damaged harbor ecosystems. For example, increased introduction of invasive species and more traffic to already congested roads. The ferry will serve the military as well, and has been designed to accomodate one Stryker Brigade.
A good place to start is Sen. J. Kalani English, Chair of the Senate Transportation and International Affairs Committee. You can reach him at www.kalanienglish.com
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noeau
Ha`aha`a
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 08/24/2007 : 09:57:39 AM
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I would be concerned with the cost. The airlines have the people by the cojones even with their ridiculous fare wars going on. The ferry would be a welcome alternative for some people if it is affordable. Environmental impact? If the cars are cleaned before boarding It might prevent some importation of plant life. But it doesn't matter. When a plant shows up on one island it ends up on all any way. And there is no ferry now. We need more info on harbors. It is all the same ocean and cruise boats already go around the state. I think most of the negativity is from the airlines they don't want to lose the business. Outer island folk sort of don't like the idea that more people can be coming to their islands. But again people come anyway and they rent cars. The amount of cars available sometimes limits the amount of visitors but the ferry would also limit the amount of visitors too. Oh yeah maybe the car rental companies don't want the ferry too. So you see it is complex but environmental concerns in this case is just a ruse to keep a new business from starting up and just contributes to the anti business image that Hawai'i seems to have. Provincial attitudes still prevail in the land of Aloha and when you look beyond the hype not everything is as it seems.
Demanding a full EIS would just slow down the process and drive costs up. Humans always have an impact on their environment and we only expect and demand the best behavior and planning within reason When my ancestors first arrived on the beaches of Hawai'i they too had an impact. And there were no environmental concerns then.
If the ferry is a good idea it'll survive otherwise it will not and Hawai'i may not be the worst for it. |
No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō. |
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